WickedWhims

[sushi]

9 minutes ago, Brewski2k said:

The default Sims has all sorts of scenarios that allow for illegal activities, murder, "rape", torture, by allowing players to play "god" over their little avatars if they want. So, really, this is just EA catering to a vocal minority of woke people likely complaining about who knows what. So they are choosing to do the dog and pony show to "doing something" with some BS legal-simlish.

I'm sure it's not the "woke" complaining, but those of a conservative mindset.  EA can make progressive changes to the code(sexuality), for the "woke," then come down on adult mods for the conservatives.  Then when conservative moms complain that EA are "agents of the devil, trying to push the gay agenda on our kids," they look slightly better for the lack of teen adult animations.

Balance. ?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, datl0ser said:

I never said it didn't work, just that to make it work, you need to apply the Post-Puberty trait to every single teen sim, and this locks them out of acne. As an adult with acne, I am quite offended >:P

i know you didnt i was confirming that id tried it without issue lol i havent had to add any trait to any of them tho 

[Atomhv]

WW animation whatever does not work. And there is no blood infection. That's not good fresh. I'm waiting for another update or fix.

 

 

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[Guest]

31 minutes ago, Brewski2k said:

Sims are a bunch of pixels arranged in the shape of humanoid avatars, they are not real people. They don't have rights, an age, gender, or whatever else you want to "assign" to them. Federal Child protection laws don't apply any more to a stick figure drawing than they do to digital or drawn characters, which is the same reason Hentai is not illegal. You can doodle whatever scenarios you want on a piece of paper or create depictions in blender and no lawyer on the planet or federal government can put you in jail or sue you over it. EA can posture all they want, they have zero legal grounds to go any CC creators who provide completely optional content that people aren't being forced to apply to their game.

The default Sims has all sorts of scenarios that allow for "illegal" and morally questionable activities; robberies, murder, "rape", torture, by allowing players to play "god" over their little avatars and all of it is completely subjective. This seems like EA has chosen, once again, to cater to a vocal minority of sensitive woke people who likely are complaining about who knows what.

pretty much what i just said lol every country has wildly different laws and this nonsense would just be laughed at 

[maxxxest]

Gosh , i haven't played sims for 2 years and now want to play again. Moreover , high school pack came out , I want such content earlier. Teens age is a great opportunity for scenarios then sims begin to explore sexual life, getting drama , love, everything that is possible. I had big plans. LMAO! such a bummer!

Turbodriver, if you want to be nice to Twitter activists and continue this way , then one day you just kill your mod. 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Atomhv said:

WW animation whatever does not work. And there is no blood infection. That's not good fresh. I'm waiting for another update or fix.

 

 

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you posted this earlier and you still have a million duplicate files, nothing is going to work with that many duplicates you need to go through them all and delete them, and a lot of them say only install 1 version yet there appears to be several of the same one

Edited July 31, 2022 by Mellor81

[Brewski2k]

6 minutes ago, sushi said:

I'm sure it's not the "woke" complaining, but those of a conservative mindset.  EA can make progressive changes to the code(sexuality), for the "woke," then come down on adult mods for the conservatives.  Then when conservative moms complain that EA are "agents of the devil, trying to push the gay agenda on our kids," they look slightly better for the lack of teen adult animations.

Balance. ?

Well, regardless of who is causing this trouble, it seems like they're probably dicking with Patreon or another revenue stream, which is the only reason I can think of why Turbo is jettisoning content from the core code to stay clear of whatever BS terms of service updates he's being forced to comply with.

[sushi]

Anyway, I've been thinking it over and I think I'm finally accepting the change.  I'm definitely downloading the IU so as to not ruin certain storylines, but I'm not going to fuss over it anymore.  Like I'm sure next month EA will piss us all off again and we'll need Turbo.  LOL.

[DarkAudit]

7 minutes ago, sushi said:

Like I'm sure next month EA will piss us all off again and we'll need Turbo

You misspelled "Thursday."

 

[sushi]

1 minute ago, DarkAudit said:

You misspelled "Thursday."

 

I was trying to be optimistic.  ?

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

1 hour ago, merkle said:

This is the crux of the matter.  Teen sex (if under 18) is, essentially, kiddie porn.  There are federal laws about that and that's why they previously went to great pains to define teens as 18-19-year-olds.  Now they seem to be defining teens as younger.  You can argue that it's animation and not the real thing, but that's probably not going to keep you out of trouble.  I'm quite sure EA's lawyers have advised them in no uncertain terms that they have to show due diligence in keeping kiddie porn out of their product.

Well, if I understand things correctly, in the recent past "omnipotent moral busybodies" have tried to make things like lolicon fall under the definition of CP (though I'm not sure if they were ever successful), which is BS since that kind of stuff (as disturbing as it is) doesn't actually victimize anyone, and it would very much be an abuse of authority to make such laws against it for that reason alone, not to mention I think that it would technically fall under violation of the First Amendment since it could be classified as art. But then, who would publically make a stand or risk their careers to take a stance against such a law? Either way, I could see some potential concern on EA's end because things could always change. For example, the NFA blatantly violates the Second Amendment, yet that was allowed to, and still does exist, so things could always change I guess (unless "art" can already be classified as CP if the subjects depicted are younger than 18).

 

Honestly, I have a feeling that part of the reason EA has redefined "teens" in the way they have is to control such content in some way, which if I'm right in my assumption then it has obviously worked.

 

So what, I guess "young adult" now starts at 18-19 (which is still TEEN)?

 

What's kind of stupid about this to me is the fact that high school starts at 15 and ends at 18 (unless you get held back or something) and in some states (as a 15 year old) you can have sex with anyone up to the age of 25 with the consent of a parent or legal guardian (I think Florida is like that, if memory serves), which personally I feel is a bit young, but it is a thing.

Edited July 31, 2022 by Z0mBieP00Nani

[JKash]

12 hours ago, coto39 said:

 

Me too, no idea what caused it. I have a teen werewolve that is lvl 2 (almost level 3). Not only he lost all his hidden abilities but also we lost all his perks and points for some reason. Same happened to one Adult werewolf. He lost 1 level and got 3 points to spend. All the perks from level 4 and 5 are gone (not even disabled, it is just as if I never purchased them)

It is indeed a bug does not seem related to WW or any mod: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/NEEDS-SAVES-W-XP-resetting-points-Level-No-more-points/td-p/11568517/page/2

 

Its rether infuriating that you lose those perks and athe perk points you have when this bug occurs. But in my case, its not a frequent occurance. But if you have Carl's Better Werewolf Cheats and MCCC it happens everytime i load the game

[eurotrashks]

Hands up who irl abstained from sex until they were legally an adult.  Lol, I'll wait.  Pretty sure most parents and EA peeps were humping before 18.  Also, given that the teens in game all look like fully grown 6ft adults (and have the mess around option), the rabble rabble from concerned parties seems...odd. 

 

On a tech issue, I know there have been changes with WW, but I've noticed that teens don't have the full attributes list.  Was this always so, is this new, or is this a bug?  Please advise.

[simsupremo]

This is the base game bug then?? I begun several games with my werewolves and alternately happens only in one of them

 Another bug, that is from the begining, erase the ace progress of one wolvie from my pack and degrade him and keep at least the hability points, but I must to improve to ace again to develop the perks

[MrGrey]

I think EA and WW have killed their golden geese.

[smashl66]

Well after 8+ straight real time hours of my game running as a Teen with WW 1.70i  and without School DLC I can say I'm happy.

 

Have had no WW Exception errors at all.

My naked male werewolves are using flacid XL SimpleGens in live mode after sex or just wandering naked.

(Edited SimpleGens to work for werewolf Hard and Default naked use XL flacid for both human and werewolf)

 

I'm in lust err I mean luv with WW atm, it's the only thing that makes the official pre School DLC bugged update bearable.

 

Thank you once again TURBODRIVER, stella update for me at least!

 

 

[sexangel]

52 minutes ago, eurotrashks said:

Hands up who irl abstained from sex until they were legally an adult.  Lol, I'll wait.  Pretty sure most parents and EA peeps were humping before 18.  Also, given that the teens in game all look like fully grown 6ft adults (and have the mess around option), the rabble rabble from concerned parties seems...odd. 

 

On a tech issue, I know there have been changes with WW, but I've noticed that teens don't have the full attributes list.  Was this always so, is this new, or is this a bug?  Please advise.

I did but only cause I don’t like the guys around here

 

i watched real sex at 9 didn’t do the DO till 19. I know kids who been active past puberty 

 

why the morals when kids are experimenting I guess no update for me. Just updating my animations

[sexangel]

20 minutes ago, MrGrey said:

I think EA and WW have killed their golden geese.

Damn fools. You think they realize we play the way we want to. Hell there are people burning down sims houses with sims in them what are they gonna do remove fire deaths? 

[Display Name 309]

Enough about the teens; what I want to know is if anyone else is experiencing an issue with saving after the last two WW updates? I've seen a couple of posts about it on the Sims 4 subreddit and the comments there attribute it to WW.

 

Basically, it seems like either it fails to save sometimes when you press the save button, or it loads a previous version of the save instead of the current version. I can't tell which. I'm leaning toward the first one since my saving times seem super short sometimes.

 

Is anyone else having this problem? How do I stop it other than just removing the mod until Turbodriver fixes that? Is it even actually a Wicked Whims issue?

[sonem]

QUE MAL
AHORA EL ROYO PURITANO ADOLESCENTE
CHAVAL TE QUEDASTE SIN PATREON Y SIN APOYO.
ESPERO QUE TE HAGAN LA COMPETENCIA. QUE TE LA HARAN SI SIGUES POR ESE CAMINO.

Edited July 31, 2022 by sonem

[Despairing Poet]

2 hours ago, DarkAudit said:

You misspelled "Thursday."

 

You never cease to make me laugh on here.  ?

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I've been staying out of the current conversation. I am not uncaring about what everyone's opinions are or that the teens can or cannot have sex, *we all know that real teens, I might actually say all teens have sex and at school is one of the places which is most popular-

However, this change in particular does not effect my own personal game style. If I get a character I've forgotten to make sterile and they end up pregnant, all I want is to raise it and get it tf out of the house. (LOL) My brain goes, "Alright kiddo, have a good life as my main sim kicks them out the house- I am not about having children around irl anymore nor in game. That's enough of that, thank you very much. 

I understand where everyone is coming from, but since their bodies all look adult at that age, I honestly have no gripe either way. Acne, btw is not the thing that makes a human prepubescent or not- which seems so very arbitrary to me... but I also understand that laws/rules must be followed because otherwise there may not even be this version of a mod available to players. 

I appreciate all the hard work Turbo has put into their mod.  TD has always been diligent and quick with an update to keep his followers happily creating their stories and games. It's not like he can control what laws/rules that mods or games must follow, but if he is to continue to offer his product to the masses, then he will need to abide by those limitations. 

*I am no lawyer, I do not play one on TV, but if I had a product like WW that makes a lot of players happy and a part of it needed to be cut off or the whole thing might sink, I think I would cover my own ass and cut off the part that is being disallowed. 

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Thank you @Turbodriver, for creating and keeping this mod afloat. I appreciate the hard work you put into it and I am sorry that this new rule has caused a rift in the community that you brought together. Take care. Good luck. 

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Continue the conversation as I honestly need to stay out of it since it really does not effect me personally (this time...). I am not the moral judge of anyone.  We are all here to play an imagined game of imagined characters, not create real life scenarios. 

Now, back to your regularly scheduled program. 

[paperipussi]

7 minutes ago, Display Name 309 said:

Enough about the teens; what I want to know is if anyone else is experiencing an issue with saving after the last two WW updates? I've seen a couple of posts about it on the Sims 4 subreddit and the comments there attribute it to WW.

 

Basically, it seems like either it fails to save sometimes when you press the save button, or it loads a previous version of the save instead of the current version. I can't tell which. I'm leaning toward the first one since my saving times seem super short sometimes.

 

Is anyone else having this problem? How do I stop it other than just removing the mod until Turbodriver fixes that? Is it even actually a Wicked Whims issue?

Even people who are playing without mods are reporting the same issue, it's the game itself that is bugging.

[xaval9800]

Turbodriver SLUT NUN XD

[peachello]

4 hours ago, 0rcus said:

I don't really care about teen sex. I don't even play as teens, but I always find it funny when people try to push their morality on a video game. I don't get it. None of this is real, just a blob of pixels. You can call them whatever you want. They don't have any real age or feelings. You can't abuse them since they don't exist. With all the gay, transgender, LGBT stuff you would think people playing this game wouldn't be so uptight. Everything else goes, but teen sex is off limits? Ok.. just weird morality being pushed in a sex mod

 

why did you have to bring LGBT stuff into it? like what is the implication here, that LGBT is also of dubious morals?

[Sanghelios]

5 hours ago, Kymberlyxxx said:

R.I.P. Billy smashing Mrs. Jones down the block with the new WW HS Update

ayo what cc is that?