toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved LE

[VirginMarie]

4 hours ago, CGi said:

it's only SLaV and dependencies. But this time with a new toon started through LAL.
And the game crashes before my toon even starts the shout animation.
it literally crashes as soon as the game know to use both words.
i never encountered anything like that so no clue how to solve it. But maybe it's LAL that causes this?

Let me know how the steps I gave go. That's how I can help.

[FightingSpirit5]

Hello,

 

I want to try this mod, but after installing it my game just freezes on loading, with the music still playing in the background. It's probably a simple fix but so far I haven't been having the best luck fixing the problem. Now it just won't load even with the main file and bodyslide file disabled.

 

Any ideas of what of what I should look for would be great.

 

Thanks

 

 

[stas2503]

Everything works well ... I checked after "skip the beginning of the story" ... 2nd word Tu`um of Love also works ...
Even with my 300+ mods (Which is extremely unexpected)
Pictures:

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[Zaflis]

I can't find 1 of the statues on "Erotic Asphyxiation" quest. I even visited Paarthunax via fast travel but there wasn't any. Got 10/11. Is there one somewhere inside the castle or at the windy path?

 

Btw, don't do that at home, people... Choking is fantasy, and in reality could get one killed.

 

edit: Found it, was 8th emblem.

[VirginMarie]

3 hours ago, FightingSpirit5 said:

Hello,

 

I want to try this mod, but after installing it my game just freezes on loading, with the music still playing in the background. It's probably a simple fix but so far I haven't been having the best luck fixing the problem. Now it just won't load even with the main file and bodyslide file disabled.

 

Any ideas of what of what I should look for would be great.

 

Thanks

I assume you mean the game loads to first menu, and then the freeze is after you load a save?

If yes, are you breaking the golden rule? Check Troubleshooting #22.

 

If that does not help, check Troubleshooting #25.

And if that does not help, attach your papyrus log from right after the freeze. How to on getting the log is in the FAQs.

 

[Soeck]

HEy, thank you for your Help last Time.
Now i am Pretty shure my new problem still is allready solved, but 150+ sites are hard to search, and i even think this problem is not from your mod, but more fals installing of devious devices and my body. i starting to lear to work with bodyslide just now, and i am at the point where my character looks like i like him but... the whole nipplestuff is flying around, wich sucks.

how can i solve it, or where do i find help?
Thank you very much, i like your mod

ps: is there a way to skip the clavicus vile quest? i hate that one in particular.
PPS: is there a way to use your mod, and still be able to move with FNIS Sexy Moves, instead of the animation your mod suggestet?

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[stas2503]

@Soeck, The attached file BSGen.mht describes how to generate armor models in the Bodislide...

BSGen.mht

It's true in Russian, but images can be sorted out.

[VirginMarie]

4 hours ago, Soeck said:

HEy, thank you for your Help last Time.
Now i am Pretty shure my new problem still is allready solved, but 150+ sites are hard to search, and i even think this problem is not from your mod, but more fals installing of devious devices and my body. i starting to lear to work with bodyslide just now, and i am at the point where my character looks like i like him but... the whole nipplestuff is flying around, wich sucks.

how can i solve it, or where do i find help?

FAQ #11

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Thank you very much, i like your mod

ps: is there a way to skip the clavicus vile quest? i hate that one in particular.

You can use MCM Misc Tab "Skip Initial Story". But you don't want to do this if you have not played through this mod at least once before as you will skip a lot more than just Vile.

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PPS: is there a way to use your mod, and still be able to move with FNIS Sexy Moves, instead of the animation your mod suggested?

I don't know which animation you are referring to, but it might be "Magical Wrist Bindings" which you can turn off in this mod's MCM.

[shuishinidie]

i like this mod and i am so glad to see you update it again?

[shadowwolf2k7]

i have a question/suggestion.

 

is it possible to block areas such as the high herothgar area and the the tomb that you are sent to to get the horn from, from causing nocturnal from spawning and interuppting the events in those areas where shouts are part of the events. such as a lock out of some sort.

 

it could be said by nocturnal that while in those areas she will be unable to assist the player due to akatosh's protections that are in place.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, shadowwolf2k7 said:

i have a question/suggestion.

 

is it possible to block areas such as the high herothgar area and the the tomb that you are sent to to get the horn from, from causing nocturnal from spawning and interuppting the events in those areas where shouts are part of the events. such as a lock out of some sort.

 

it could be said by nocturnal that while in those areas she will be unable to assist the player due to akatosh's protections that are in place.

Yes its possible. The mod already does some location specific blocking to avoid getting into trouble.

 

I've tested this part and while the shouts can lead to Nocturnal encounters, I've never found it break anything, only annoying. So since it seems it can't break anything I've left it. Did you run into breaking scenarios? See I'd rather not add the code overhead because then it would have to check location every single time you shout.

[shadowwolf2k7]

16 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

Yes its possible. The mod already does some location specific blocking to avoid getting into trouble.

 

I've tested this part and while the shouts can lead to Nocturnal encounters, I've never found it break anything, only annoying. So since it seems it can't break anything I've left it. Did you run into breaking scenarios? See I'd rather not add the code overhead because then it would have to check location every single time you shout.

i have had it interfer when when using the clear skys shout going upto see parthanax, which has gotten me killed though that has only happened once, since i change it to 0% while going up to see him the first time now. i also turn it off when going to get the horn since i need to use WW sprint in one area and have gotten stopped half way through due to an encounter happening in the midde of the doors.

[NightroModzz]

Okay, so continuing from page #150.

 

I've delayed testing because I've been waiting for Mator Smash to get updated (which it has not) in order to get rid of the body template bug.

 

I checked to re-download old versions of DD, but DD Expansion and DD Integration only has a v4.1 available. I checked my downloaded mod folders, and realized that I am indeed not using v4.1 of either.

 

Using:

DeviousFrameworks v2.06

DDA v3.0e

DDx v4.0

DDi v4.0

 

If the bug is only present in DD v4.1, then DD couldn't have been the cause of the crash by using this mod and or TDF Aggressive Prostitution in conjunction with OSA.

 

 

[VirginMarie]

5 hours ago, NightroModzz said:

If the bug is only present in DD v4.1, then DD couldn't have been the cause of the crash by using this mod and or TDF Aggressive Prostitution in conjunction with OSA.

There's no bug in DD4.1 pertaining to a "too many animations crash". DD is just a big contributor to how many animations you have. 4.1 introduced even more animations, in particular AAs which seem to be a bigger factor.

 

You could still have crashed due to the "too many animations crash" issue that has now become more commonly found and understood since 4.1 tipped the scales for many. You could have hit the max with just 4.0 is my point here, and adding this mod which adds more animations, could have been your particular max out point.

[DarksideTinkerbell]

This is my all time favorite Mod, I seriously do not know how I could voice or show my appreciation. It takes priority over any and all Mods especially if for some reason they clash.

 

So far only 2 Mods clash with this.

For some reason Radiant Prostitution, and eventually but not straight away Slaverun.

 

What happens; the random spawns stop coming, no Cassia to say hi, or Priestesses, no Thieves to Spank options, No Statues found to activate locations given

 

If you shout Nocturnal will still appear (but she doesn't whip me anymore  ) I still get Multi-orgasms and delayed orgasms, Love Shout still works.

 

With Slaverun this all happens only after you activate the Main line quest, so its fine unless you actually start Slaverun after the intro quest line, or if you let it turn most of the cities and towns into Slave towns.

 

For me its easy, no Radiant (it was just an excuse to get up to more naughty stuff) and Slaverun I just leave till way later or turn the auto progression in it off and avoid finishing the intro quest till way later.

 

Still I mention these because it's information.

 

But Thank you so so much for this ingeniously disturbed and fun Mod

 

"so many puddles thank fuck for towels"

[NightroModzz]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

There's no bug in DD4.1 pertaining to a "too many animations crash". DD is just a big contributor to how many animations you have. 4.1 introduced even more animations, in particular AAs which seem to be a bigger factor.

 

You could still have crashed due to the "too many animations crash" issue that has now become more commonly found and understood since 4.1 tipped the scales for many. You could have hit the max with just 4.0 is my point here, and adding this mod which adds more animations, could have been your particular max out point.

I could add many more animation mods to match the amount lost from removing OSA, and run them with no issues. Unless someone else tests the combination of this mod, SexLab, OSA, and or TDF Aggressive Prostitution with good results, I'm blaming compatibility. I can't come to any other conclusion from testing.

[stas2503]

30 minutes ago, NightroModzz said:

Unless someone else tests the combination of this mod, SexLab, OSA, and or TDF Aggressive Prostitution with good results, I'm blaming compatibility.

I have TDF Agressive Prostitution, I did not notice any incompatibilities ...
I also have

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-Billyy Animations (all except the Legacy package)
-SLAL ProxyAnims
-K4 Animations
-Nibbles Animations
-AnubiSs Animation Dump
-MilkySLALPack
-SRB Creatures
-SLAL Ayasato animations 1.1
-SLAL Komotor Animations 2.0
-Leito Animations (Agressive, Furniture, Creature)
-More Nasty Critters 11.2

-Estrus Craurus+

-GomaPeroPoserPack 10

-KnoxPoser 1.7

 

I would like to ask::
1. What are the packages of Sexlab animations you use?
2. Which version of FNIS do you have? Normal or XXL?

[NightroModzz]

On ‎7‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 8:45 PM, stas2503 said:

I have TDF Agressive Prostitution, I did not notice any incompatibilities ...
I also have

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-Billyy Animations (all except the Legacy package)
-SLAL ProxyAnims
-K4 Animations
-Nibbles Animations
-AnubiSs Animation Dump
-MilkySLALPack
-SRB Creatures
-SLAL Ayasato animations 1.1
-SLAL Komotor Animations 2.0
-Leito Animations (Agressive, Furniture, Creature)
-More Nasty Critters 11.2

-Estrus Craurus+

-GomaPeroPoserPack 10

-KnoxPoser 1.7

 

I would like to ask::
1. What are the packages of Sexlab animations you use?
2. Which version of FNIS do you have? Normal or XXL?

It's TDF or this (or both) mod with OSA, not TDF with this mod.

 

FNIS latest version XXL

 

I've already tested with all of these activated, and deactivated besides XPMSE with mostly just the requirements. It's only the combination of this and or TDF with OSA that causes crash on start up for me, not the amount of animations (little or large). No longer gonna run tests with the mods together, it's like beating a dead horse.

 

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Gameplay Animations:

 

Custom All-In-One

360 Walk and Run Plus

TK Dodge

Pretty Motion Collection

Shake It (had to get rid of JRDance for OSA)

FNIS-PCEA2

FNIS Sexy Move - 360 Pack

RandomIdleAnimations

Animations added via XPMSE

 

LoversLab:

 

MoreNastyCritters

ZazAnimation Pack v7.0

SLAL KoAnim

SLAL Billy

SLAL FunnyBiz

SLAL Lieto

TDF Aggressive Prostitution

KseriesHD

 

Plus mod added animations

 

[VirginMarie]

10 hours ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

This is my all time favorite Mod, I seriously do not know how I could voice or show my appreciation. It takes priority over any and all Mods especially if for some reason they clash.

 

So far only 2 Mods clash with this.

For some reason Radiant Prostitution, and eventually but not straight away Slaverun.

 

What happens; the random spawns stop coming, no Cassia to say hi, or Priestesses, no Thieves to Spank options, No Statues found to activate locations given

 

If you shout Nocturnal will still appear (but she doesn't whip me anymore  ) I still get Multi-orgasms and delayed orgasms, Love Shout still works.

 

With Slaverun this all happens only after you activate the Main line quest, so its fine unless you actually start Slaverun after the intro quest line, or if you let it turn most of the cities and towns into Slave towns.

 

For me its easy, no Radiant (it was just an excuse to get up to more naughty stuff) and Slaverun I just leave till way later or turn the auto progression in it off and avoid finishing the intro quest till way later.

 

Still I mention these because it's information.

 

But Thank you so so much for this ingeniously disturbed and fun Mod

 

"so many puddles thank fuck for towels"

Thanks for the info. It will take time but I will re-test with both of those mods.

 

I've tested with Slaverun about 8 months ago and its been more than once and led to some of the MCM options to allow for compatibility. Testing with Radiant it was a looong time ago and not nearly as detailed.

 

I did NOT get these results you describe for either mod. Its very strange and hard to imagine how it could happen. Mod conflicts can be strange beasts and often just load order can fix. Or there could be another mod you have in play that in combination is giving you these results, so I need more info before I can add anything in my Mod Conflicts section, starting with re-creating the problem.

 

Does anyone else have these conflicts?

 

6 hours ago, NightroModzz said:

No longer gonna run tests with the mods together, it's like beating a dead horse.

That's fine I don't blame you its a waste of your time. I have no interest in ever supporting OSA since this mod uses Sexlab so I wont be testing with OSA myself. Its just a matter of having my statement in the Mod Conflicts section accurate, and it is fine as is now (I.e. you have not tested enough to be certain OSA causes the CTD, its just a maybe... and please stop trying to convince anyone otherwise).

 

@Everyone interested… The reason I don't need to know more about OSA is simple... Having both Sexlab and OSA in your load order at the same time makes very little sense as its too much for the Skyrim Engine, in the same way as having both Devious devices and ZAP 8. All 4 of them are animation-related frameworks and we've reached the point where you need to pick and choose... like pick 2 of them lol! 4 animation frameworks, noooo! You can't expect a stable game.

 

[peter016852]

sigh...….I am too stupid to figure out the riddle in Twilight Sepulcher…...Can never find the exit

same goes when I am finding bondage gear in cursed loot quest...….

I can just think of that your modders find riddles as some old school fun, many games in the past do that

That is why I need guide for every rpg I lay my hands on.....

but these mods, they have no guide!!! unless your just write it in the description, maybe you should, I think everything that add explorable areas in skyrim should do that, GUIDES!!!

 

so...……………...where is that exit?

[DarksideTinkerbell]

I am always looking to tweak my Load order.  I wasn't sure about DD series and Zap, now that I know they both currently do the same I will have to experiment with them. I have them both, mainly as different Mods require them.  This maybe the reason Slaverun was stopping the character spawns in Shout?  Took me a while to work out OSA thats the new more "immersive" animation loader right?

 

I am no expert on Load orders though so I rely on running FNIS after any new mod I install or old I take out, LOOT and Tes5Edit on anything LOOT suggests.

 

Personally I think Shout Like a Virgin is perfect, while Mods like Slaverun and the like are still well pretty much in a testing stage or alpha, especially as they have very high demands, by comparison.  I would rather hope that you have some ingenious surprises for the future to expand on what has been done so far. (I promise if I think of something I will write it down). So far for me it's a lack of integration with other Mods as many are pretty much a standalone in a way. What I mean is as an example, there are many Sex Lab Mods that require Sex Lab as a back bone to how they work, but don't seem to link with all Sex Lab provides, like the Sex Lab "diary" (where it lists sexuality and experience, many will use the sexuality but none so far have used the experience. (lol if I could I would do a Mod that rates a scene and NPC's involved may or may not comment afterwards on performance, with options then to practice more in what you are less experienced in, maybe a professional school of sex? No Sex Trainers like perk Trainers, oh and once you gain Mastery you get randoms wanting to learn from you) But I have no idea how to Mod and still in many ways learning how to use them.

 

There is one thing with Shout that is for me annoying, the Virgin Tattoo. I so love that Tattoo and want to wear it with pride all the time, but I love even more walking around covered in my sexual exploits. Which does mean I have to de-activate the Tattoo to do this... (I assume it uses the same location maybe of the textures for cum? I Really don't know, except that I can not have both).

[VirginMarie]

3 hours ago, peter016852 said:

sigh...….I am too stupid to figure out the riddle in Twilight Sepulcher…...Can never find the exit

same goes when I am finding bondage gear in cursed loot quest...….

I can just think of that your modders find riddles as some old school fun, many games in the past do that

That is why I need guide for every rpg I lay my hands on.....

but these mods, they have no guide!!! unless your just write it in the description, maybe you should, I think everything that add explorable areas in skyrim should do that, GUIDES!!!

 

so...……………...where is that exit?

FAQ #4

 

A Guide-ish Thingie

 

Both are linked on the main page if you are needing to find again in the future.

[VirginMarie]

4 hours ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

I am always looking to tweak my Load order.  I wasn't sure about DD series and Zap, now that I know they both currently do the same I will have to experiment with them. I have them both, mainly as different Mods require them.  This maybe the reason Slaverun was stopping the character spawns in Shout?

DD and ZAP do not do the same thing really. ZAP was around first and thus many mods use it. DD came latter and expanded on the bondage devices area and does much more with that.

 

Using the last official ZAP 7.0 with DD is not a problem. But the unofficial (different author) ZAP 8+, I'd not recommend. I don't test it. I don't support or trust it. And its too much in combo... a strain on the skyrim engine. So could it cause your problem?... seems unlikely as I'd expect stability issues (inconsistent) but you are describing something very specific and consistent.

 

One thing I did not mention already... your problem could be a corrupt save. Do you know about and follow the golden rule? Not doing so could lead to your prob. The character spawns are powered by a feature called Story Manager in the Creation Kit. The SM should never go wrong, due to any other mod, but I've seen corrupt saves prevent the SM from triggering events. 

 

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Took me a while to work out OSA thats the new more "immersive" animation loader right?

I've never used it. Everything on LL uses Sexlab. Mixing the two makes no sense thus I wont invest time into learning about it.

 

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I am no expert on Load orders though so I rely on running FNIS after any new mod I install or old I take out, LOOT and Tes5Edit on anything LOOT suggests.

That's all I do too. I've listed two exceptions (Loot wont do it for you) in the install instructions. That's all you can really do... run loot... read what mod authors say if anything about load order.

 

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Personally I think Shout Like a Virgin is perfect, while Mods like Slaverun and the like are still well pretty much in a testing stage or alpha, especially as they have very high demands, by comparison.  I would rather hope that you have some ingenious surprises for the future to expand on what has been done so far. (I promise if I think of something I will write it down). 

If you have specific ideas you think fit, I'm always very pleased to hear about it.

 

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There is one thing with Shout that is for me annoying, the Virgin Tattoo. I so love that Tattoo and want to wear it with pride all the time, but I love even more walking around covered in my sexual exploits. Which does mean I have to de-activate the Tattoo to do this... (I assume it uses the same location maybe of the textures for cum? I Really don't know, except that I can not have both).

Yup this comes up from time to time. I've had no solution. Doing it through SlaveTats was tried but too laggy and the mod is changing that tat often and on the fly so no good.

 

One Idea I might try to work on is having this mod recognize that there was a "sexual exploit" and put a delay on re-applying the virgin tat. If its meant to last 30secs, then my delay could be that long. It could be optional.

[DarksideTinkerbell]

Oh I use the Golden Rule, it was reading your Mod that gave me the why of it all, prior to that I was installing new Mods all the time in a run through. Yeah sometimes it was fine but just as often especially with large Mods, by that I mean Mods that effect a lot of things in a game. I often found they didn't work. This is why I have played Shout start at least 6 times so far, each one a fresh New start with all prior saves deleted. (The Slaverun occurrence happened on 2 of these fresh starts, only after the main quest line started for Slaverun, so long as I stayed on the introduction quest and with held Slaverun from the auto progression to take over towns and cities, it was fine, it is almost like the Main quest opens the Mod up even more which in turn effects the game like you just installed a new mod?)

 

As to ideas, well no lol it is hard to think of anything that would be worthy. So I got a Mod that allows me to write a Journal in game which is fun. Already I have used a section to redefine the race I am using as I think the available Succubus Races do not really represent Succubi well enough. I have thought of ways where it is fully incorporated at an Alternate Start as a Succubus with Shout, referring to Nocturnal as my Mistress. In the journal I say she has somehow prevented my racial abilities, its fun. (Afteral Succubi are the concubines of Hell, and for you guys out there Concubines are not only for sex, often they are also an elite guard to their masters/mistresses)

 

Doing that for the Tattoo sounds very technical but would be cool. Another possibility maybe? Location, I have noticed most cum meshes leave the back of the shoulders clear for some reason? (Mind you I still search for a progressive cum mesh as in starts at a little goes to alot then becomes messy, based on number of well scenes, not to mention does anybody who makes them know that squirting can leave a mess as well, a really big mess if your lucky)

[DonQuiWho]

12 hours ago, peter016852 said:

sigh...….I am too stupid to figure out the riddle in Twilight Sepulcher…...Can never find the exit

same goes when I am finding bondage gear in cursed loot quest...….

I can just think of that your modders find riddles as some old school fun, many games in the past do that

That is why I need guide for every rpg I lay my hands on.....

but these mods, they have no guide!!! unless your just write it in the description, maybe you should, I think everything that add explorable areas in skyrim should do that, GUIDES!!!

 

so...……………...where is that exit?