Guest ffabris Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Thanks Beamer - and welcome back. Glad you're doing better.
BeamerMiasma Posted June 7, 2016 Author Posted June 7, 2016 So, this has come up several times before, so apologies for dredging up old ground. I completely respect your decision with the bribe prices, and like the feature in general; it's your vision of Skyrim, and that's cool. My own, however, needs the prices to be higher. Rather than ask you to make a separate version or start adding features you don't want to, I'd simply like to ask this: what (and, vaguely, how) should I edit to make the changes myself? I played around with the esp in TESVEdit for a while myself and came to the conclusion that the mod was using default bribe prices, which I confirmed in a forum search. So what I'm looking for is either: - Do you (or anyone else) know of mods to just jack up bribe costs, period? - Or, is there a way I can adjust the price via TESVEdit (and if so which record/form should I edit? I looked through what was there but didn't find anything obvious) - Or, and I'm suspecting this is really the thing to do, which script file contains the BribeCost variable so that I can just edit that? Any guidance you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, and thanks for the mod! Also, lightning round if you're feeling generous: is there anyway to make the SLEN dialogues apply only to one gender, and if so what would I have to edit? A very minor thing, but I'd be willing to do the work and thought it might be an interesting exercise. The bribing mechanism supplied by Bethesda in the CK happens largely outside of the papyrus engine and can as far as I know not be manipulated with scripts. Your option are to completely ignore the provided mechanisms and create it from scratch yourself, or to change the Game Settings that are used to calculate the bribes. Note that I haven't tried this myself, you'd have to experiment, but it should affect all bribing options that use the CK mechanism, regardless of which mod initiates it: fBribeCostCurve 1.400000 fBribeScale 0.500000 Curve values in game settings are typically the exponent in some expression in the function, so a value of 1 produces a linear result (x^1) and a value of 2 an exponential result (x^2). The x in this case is probably a calculation based on level and speech skill, and the Scale. So increase the Curve to let the costs rise steeper with level, and/or increase the scale to increase the bribe prices equally across all levels. Find these values in TES5Edit under Game Settings, right click and choose "Copy as override into..." to copy them to a new esp, and then change the values in that new esp. Save and add the new esp to your load order and that should hopefully do the trick. Other settings that are mentioned in the wiki but are not present in Skyrim.esm are: fBribeBase 10.000000 fBribeMoralityMult 1.000000 fBribeMult 0.300000 fBribeNPCLevelMult 0.100000 fBribeSpeechcraftMult 0.100000 These values might not have any effect, but you can try adding them and seeing if it makes a difference when you change them. Source: CK wiki
BeamerMiasma Posted June 8, 2016 Author Posted June 8, 2016 Some house keeping messages: - please do not send me private messages with support questions or feature requests for SLEN. This is what the support thread is for. Thanks for understanding. - If you want to make a translation, you can start without waiting for permission if you stick to the following: * Make a quick post in the support thread so people know you are working on it, to prevent others from working on the same translation. * Do not translate Debug.Trace messages. These are for debugging purposes and should remain original. * Once ready, send the translated mod to me and I will add it to the downloads, please do not create a separate download thread for it and don't post it on other websites (exception for the chinese translation to circumvent the Great Firewall, as agreed with the translators). * You will need to translate the .esp (dialog subtitles, descriptions of magic effects, spells & items) and SLENMCMScript.psc (the MCM menu) * Contact me by PM with any questions or when you are ready to send it to me.
Trajen Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Wow. I was so excited to see this update! SLEN has become a must have install on every new play through. It is so complete and thought out, I love it. If you would permit me to humbly request two additional features for his mod: First, the option to have the NPC follow you to somewhere private. To me that would make this mod so complete. I avoid using the dialog options of this mod when talking to NPCs in public places because if I successfully flirt with them, the only options are to go at it right there in front of everyone. Second, just a simple kissing option along with the sex options. This would be such a great feature. Mods like Spouses Enhanced and Amorous Adventures really get this right by adding that feature but it is limited to your spouse and a handful of NPCs. Although both of these can be added as independent dialog options they could also be used together. For instance, I walk up to an NPC that is a stranger. I attempt to flirt and win the speech challenge. My only option from there is to kiss them. After that another flirt/speech option success gives me the dialog option for them to follow me to somewhere more private or sex right there. To me that scenario is text book flirting. You flirt, you kiss, then go somewhere private for more. Please don't take these suggestions as criticism in any way. I love this mod and will continue to have it installed in my games. I just truly feel that the addition of these two features would bring this awesome mod over the top.
Arhon Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Thanks for the update Beamer. Really liking this mod, got a question however. How compatible is this mod's dibella refuge with The Sisterhood of Dibella? I mean can i use the mod "Sisterhood of Dibella" and enable the option "Dibella Refuge" in SLEN?
BeamerMiasma Posted June 9, 2016 Author Posted June 9, 2016 Thanks for the update Beamer. Really liking this mod, got a question however. How compatible is this mod's dibella refuge with The Sisterhood of Dibella? I mean can i use the mod "Sisterhood of Dibella" and enable the option "Dibella Refuge" in SLEN? SLEN makes no changes to any of the temple of dibella related vanilla assets, so they should be safe to use alongside each other.
karlpaws Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Thanks for the update Beamer. Really liking this mod, got a question however. How compatible is this mod's dibella refuge with The Sisterhood of Dibella? I mean can i use the mod "Sisterhood of Dibella" and enable the option "Dibella Refuge" in SLEN? SLEN makes no changes to any of the temple of dibella related vanilla assets, so they should be safe to use alongside each other. Yeah, the refuge is not connected to the temple. I've used them both together for a while. First, the option to have the NPC follow you to somewhere private. Second, just a simple kissing option along with the sex options. The first has been asked for so much, I'd give you demerit points if I could. For the second, your homework is to use the Search function at the top of the page, to search this thread topic for comments with the keywords "give me some sugar" and see if that option, already implemented, does what you want. No I'm not involved with the mod, just a bitter vet of only a year.
Arhon Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Thanks for the update Beamer. Really liking this mod, got a question however. How compatible is this mod's dibella refuge with The Sisterhood of Dibella? I mean can i use the mod "Sisterhood of Dibella" and enable the option "Dibella Refuge" in SLEN? SLEN makes no changes to any of the temple of dibella related vanilla assets, so they should be safe to use alongside each other. Alright thank you , i just wanted to be sure
Arhon Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 EDIT: yey for being an idiot.... it was load order conflict....... please ignore this while i bang my head on the wall.
srayesmanll Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 EDIT: yey for being an idiot.... it was load order conflict....... please ignore this while i bang my head on the wall. Happens to the best of us...
Trajen Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Thanks for the update Beamer. Really liking this mod, got a question however. How compatible is this mod's dibella refuge with The Sisterhood of Dibella? I mean can i use the mod "Sisterhood of Dibella" and enable the option "Dibella Refuge" in SLEN? SLEN makes no changes to any of the temple of dibella related vanilla assets, so they should be safe to use alongside each other. Yeah, the refuge is not connected to the temple. I've used them both together for a while. First, the option to have the NPC follow you to somewhere private. Second, just a simple kissing option along with the sex options. The first has been asked for so much, I'd give you demerit points if I could. For the second, your homework is to use the Search function at the top of the page, to search this thread topic for comments with the keywords "give me some sugar" and see if that option, already implemented, does what you want. No I'm not involved with the mod, just a bitter vet of only a year. I appreciate your reply. I did the search like you recommended using the give me some sugar phrase. I had ten pages of search results showing every post that had the words "some" and "give" in it. Couldn't find anything. I then tried just the word "sugar". Your post telling me to search for "give me some sugar" was the only search result. If it is an already an option then great but I have used this mod for sometime and never noticed if it was there. Perhaps in this newest update? As far as going somewhere more private, I did a search for that too and did read a post that said the mod author has no intention to add that function. That's cool. There are ways around that using other mods. It's just this mod has so much to offer and so much content it would be a great addition. I know I should have tried searching the treads before posting but there are 79 pages of posts and even when using search function it can be like finding a needle in a haystack. I don't post much in this community but when I do I always get a quick response.
BeamerMiasma Posted June 10, 2016 Author Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks for the update Beamer. Really liking this mod, got a question however. How compatible is this mod's dibella refuge with The Sisterhood of Dibella? I mean can i use the mod "Sisterhood of Dibella" and enable the option "Dibella Refuge" in SLEN? SLEN makes no changes to any of the temple of dibella related vanilla assets, so they should be safe to use alongside each other. Yeah, the refuge is not connected to the temple. I've used them both together for a while. First, the option to have the NPC follow you to somewhere private. Second, just a simple kissing option along with the sex options. The first has been asked for so much, I'd give you demerit points if I could. For the second, your homework is to use the Search function at the top of the page, to search this thread topic for comments with the keywords "give me some sugar" and see if that option, already implemented, does what you want. No I'm not involved with the mod, just a bitter vet of only a year. I appreciate your reply. I did the search like you recommended using the give me some sugar phrase. I had ten pages of search results showing every post that had the words "some" and "give" in it. Couldn't find anything. I then tried just the word "sugar". Your post telling me to search for "give me some sugar" was the only search result. If it is an already an option then great but I have used this mod for sometime and never noticed if it was there. Perhaps in this newest update? As far as going somewhere more private, I did a search for that too and did read a post that said the mod author has no intention to add that function. That's cool. There are ways around that using other mods. It's just this mod has so much to offer and so much content it would be a great addition. I know I should have tried searching the treads before posting but there are 79 pages of posts and even when using search function it can be like finding a needle in a haystack. I don't post much in this community but when I do I always get a quick response. My intention has always been to integrate the possibilities that SexLab and SexLab Aroused offer into the normal game play, rather than to make it a separate thing that happens alongside the game play. One of the things about the normal game play is that you do not just always get what you want. You cannot make just every NPC your follower, you cannot marry any NPC you like. Another is that sometimes, you have to make an effort to get what you want. You may have to wait, stalk a target for a while, or even come back at a later time when your skills are higher or your buffs are better before you get your way. With the SLEN dialogues, in the same fashion as the normal game play you do not always get what you want when you want it. And indeed if your desires include restrictions about a location, you will first have to make an effort to get the target of your liking to that location. For some that's easy, they will follow you if you ask, or allow you inside their home if you do their favour quest. For others it's harder, you may have to observe them for a while, see if they go somewhere quiet at night, you may even have to pick a lock to get to them or persuade a guard. Some will always remain unattainable, such is life - at least if you choose it, because of course there is always the option of installing other mods that allow you to drag NPCs along to wherever you want. The dialogues in SLEN are a mini game, not a puppet master clone. I do not agree that the option to follow would be an addition to the mod. Just like a 100% success chance would not motivate people to use the arousal tools that SLEN provides, a follow option would not motivate people to use their other skills to get what they want. It would reduce the integration with the normal game play, not increase it, and turn SLEN into just another let's have sex mod. There are plenty of those already, and you can use them together with SLEN if that is what you want. The hug/kiss option was added in the last update and I overlooked it before release because it was months ago that I added it and I simply forgot about it. It probably needs some tweaking, but it's there in the Lovers Perks dialogues. I will have a look at it before the next release.
BeamerMiasma Posted June 10, 2016 Author Posted June 10, 2016 As reported earlier the Night to Remember quest (from the drinking contest) indeed reserves Senna, which prevents her from sending the letter that starts the Champion of Dibella quest. If the Champion of Dibella quest is not starting for you, and you have the Night to Remember quest in your journal, try finishing that quest first, and see if the Champion of Dibella quest will start after that.
Trajen Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks for the update Beamer. Really liking this mod, got a question however. How compatible is this mod's dibella refuge with The Sisterhood of Dibella? I mean can i use the mod "Sisterhood of Dibella" and enable the option "Dibella Refuge" in SLEN? SLEN makes no changes to any of the temple of dibella related vanilla assets, so they should be safe to use alongside each other.Yeah, the refuge is not connected to the temple. I've used them both together for a while. First, the option to have the NPC follow you to somewhere private. Second, just a simple kissing option along with the sex options. The first has been asked for so much, I'd give you demerit points if I could. For the second, your homework is to use the Search function at the top of the page, to search this thread topic for comments with the keywords "give me some sugar" and see if that option, already implemented, does what you want. No I'm not involved with the mod, just a bitter vet of only a year. I appreciate your reply. I did the search like you recommended using the give me some sugar phrase. I had ten pages of search results showing every post that had the words "some" and "give" in it. Couldn't find anything. I then tried just the word "sugar". Your post telling me to search for "give me some sugar" was the only search result. If it is an already an option then great but I have used this mod for sometime and never noticed if it was there. Perhaps in this newest update? As far as going somewhere more private, I did a search for that too and did read a post that said the mod author has no intention to add that function. That's cool. There are ways around that using other mods. It's just this mod has so much to offer and so much content it would be a great addition. I know I should have tried searching the treads before posting but there are 79 pages of posts and even when using search function it can be like finding a needle in a haystack. I don't post much in this community but when I do I always get a quick response. My intention has always been to integrate the possibilities that SexLab and SexLab Aroused offer into the normal game play, rather than to make it a separate thing that happens alongside the game play. One of the things about the normal game play is that you do not just always get what you want. You cannot make just every NPC your follower, you cannot marry any NPC you like. Another is that sometimes, you have to make an effort to get what you want. You may have to wait, stalk a target for a while, or even come back at a later time when your skills are higher or your buffs are better before you get your way. With the SLEN dialogues, in the same fashion as the normal game play you do not always get what you want when you want it. And indeed if your desires include restrictions about a location, you will first have to make an effort to get the target of your liking to that location. For some that's easy, they will follow you if you ask, or allow you inside their home if you do their favour quest. For others it's harder, you may have to observe them for a while, see if they go somewhere quiet at night, you may even have to pick a lock to get to them or persuade a guard. Some will always remain unattainable, such is life - at least if you choose it, because of course there is always the option of installing other mods that allow you to drag NPCs along to wherever you want. The dialogues in SLEN are a mini game, not a puppet master clone. I do not agree that the option to follow would be an addition to the mod. Just like a 100% success chance would not motivate people to use the arousal tools that SLEN provides, a follow option would not motivate people to use their other skills to get what they want. It would reduce the integration with the normal game play, not increase it, and turn SLEN into just another let's have sex mod. There are plenty of those already, and you can use them together with SLEN if that is what you want. The hug/kiss option was added in the last update and I overlooked it before release because it was months ago that I added it and I simply forgot about it. It probably needs some tweaking, but it's there in the Lovers Perks dialogues. I will have a look at it before the next release. WOW! Thanks for a great response. First let me say you have no idea how many sexlab mods I uninstalled after discovering yours. It was so complex, so thought out, so many options, and so all-in-one. Your explanation for not having to "go somewhere private" option is well thought out as well. I get your logic. If you want an immersive gameplay, you have to work for it. Your right and I thank you for your explanation on that. Sometimes I play as a female character and one thing I always do is try to seduce the married/straight Sigrid in Riverwood when ever she is by herself working the garden. Such a challenge, I love it! When I finally do it, it would be nice to say let's go behind this house as opposed to right here in the garden in front of the kids running around. To me that would increase the immersion. Again I get your reasoning and you have opened my eyes that it is meant to be a challenge and even more so if you want immersion. Thanks again for what I think IS the must have sexlab mod.
JCSE Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 So, this has come up several times before, so apologies for dredging up old ground. I completely respect your decision with the bribe prices, and like the feature in general; it's your vision of Skyrim, and that's cool. My own, however, needs the prices to be higher. Rather than ask you to make a separate version or start adding features you don't want to, I'd simply like to ask this: what (and, vaguely, how) should I edit to make the changes myself? I played around with the esp in TESVEdit for a while myself and came to the conclusion that the mod was using default bribe prices, which I confirmed in a forum search. So what I'm looking for is either: - Do you (or anyone else) know of mods to just jack up bribe costs, period? - Or, is there a way I can adjust the price via TESVEdit (and if so which record/form should I edit? I looked through what was there but didn't find anything obvious) - Or, and I'm suspecting this is really the thing to do, which script file contains the BribeCost variable so that I can just edit that? Any guidance you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much, and thanks for the mod! Also, lightning round if you're feeling generous: is there anyway to make the SLEN dialogues apply only to one gender, and if so what would I have to edit? A very minor thing, but I'd be willing to do the work and thought it might be an interesting exercise. The bribing mechanism supplied by Bethesda in the CK happens largely outside of the papyrus engine and can as far as I know not be manipulated with scripts. Your option are to completely ignore the provided mechanisms and create it from scratch yourself, or to change the Game Settings that are used to calculate the bribes. Note that I haven't tried this myself, you'd have to experiment, but it should affect all bribing options that use the CK mechanism, regardless of which mod initiates it: fBribeCostCurve 1.400000 fBribeScale 0.500000 Curve values in game settings are typically the exponent in some expression in the function, so a value of 1 produces a linear result (x^1) and a value of 2 an exponential result (x^2). The x in this case is probably a calculation based on level and speech skill, and the Scale. So increase the Curve to let the costs rise steeper with level, and/or increase the scale to increase the bribe prices equally across all levels. Find these values in TES5Edit under Game Settings, right click and choose "Copy as override into..." to copy them to a new esp, and then change the values in that new esp. Save and add the new esp to your load order and that should hopefully do the trick. Other settings that are mentioned in the wiki but are not present in Skyrim.esm are: fBribeBase 10.000000 fBribeMoralityMult 1.000000 fBribeMult 0.300000 fBribeNPCLevelMult 0.100000 fBribeSpeechcraftMult 0.100000 These values might not have any effect, but you can try adding them and seeing if it makes a difference when you change them. Source: CK wiki Thank you so much for the helpful reply! I appreciate you taking the time.
WizzyD Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 any hope in the near future to get options for standing sex animations?
Arhon Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 any hope in the near future to get options for standing sex animations? If i understood correctly. There are standing sex animations. You can find them in Sexlab Animation Loader Packs.
WizzyD Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 any hope in the near future to get options for standing sex animations? If i understood correctly. There are standing sex animations. You can find them in Sexlab Animation Loader Packs. indeed but there is no dialogue option to choose just standing sex animations via this mod.
Arhon Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 any hope in the near future to get options for standing sex animations? If i understood correctly. There are standing sex animations. You can find them in Sexlab Animation Loader Packs. indeed but there is no dialogue option to choose just standing sex animations via this mod. I dont believe there has been a mod that allows you to choose exactly what sex animation you want.
spoonsinger Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 any hope in the near future to get options for standing sex animations? If i understood correctly. There are standing sex animations. You can find them in Sexlab Animation Loader Packs. indeed but there is no dialogue option to choose just standing sex animations via this mod. I dont believe there has been a mod that allows you to choose exactly what sex animation you want. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/42286-sexlab-position-selector-by-nen-control-yourself/
WizzyD Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 any hope in the near future to get options for standing sex animations? If i understood correctly. There are standing sex animations. You can find them in Sexlab Animation Loader Packs. indeed but there is no dialogue option to choose just standing sex animations via this mod. I dont believe there has been a mod that allows you to choose exactly what sex animation you want. not asking for dialogue option to choose a single animation but a group of animations tagged as standing. kinda like this mod does where you can choose laying down, doggy style and what not.
Arhon Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 any hope in the near future to get options for standing sex animations? If i understood correctly. There are standing sex animations. You can find them in Sexlab Animation Loader Packs. indeed but there is no dialogue option to choose just standing sex animations via this mod. I dont believe there has been a mod that allows you to choose exactly what sex animation you want. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/42286-sexlab-position-selector-by-nen-control-yourself/ guess i was wrong, i will check it out myself too xD
VaunWolfe Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 I am having an issue where none of the events even happen even at 100.
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