Milk Mod Economy

*Lupine00* · July 27, 2020

37 minutes ago, Ed86 said:

you can mark player as slave, then milk will be milked to StorageUtil container

                       elseif StorageUtil.GetIntValue(akActor, "MME.MilkMaid.IsSlave") == 1
                           StorageUtil.AdjustFloatValue(akActor, "MME.MilkMaid.MilkingContainerMilksSUM", bottles)
                           debug.Notification(bottles + " Milk added to container.")

and then get milk after receiving MME_MilkingDone or just getting MilkingContainerMilksSUM

                   MilkE.InitiateTradeToContainer(bottles + StorageUtil.GetFloatValue(akActor,"MME.MilkMaid.MilkingContainerMilksSUM") as int, boobgasmcount, akActor, MilkBarrel)
                   StorageUtil.SetFloatValue(akActor, "MME.MilkMaid.MilkingContainerMilksSUM", 0)

or manually call milking to container and milk will be dumped into that object, maybe it even works with actors

Function MilkingToContainer(Actor akActor, int i, int Mode, int MilkingType, objectreference MilkBarrel = none)

Thanks for the details.

I think it would work with an actor, but for tracking, probably makes more sense to use a separate container.

I'll have to try some stuff and see how it works...

I have some flexibility on what I do.

I could make it so that the PC has to ask the follower to milk them, in which case I could drive it all with MilkingToContainer.

But that is not as much fun for the player as using the milk pumps, or maybe is too convenient for the player.

If the player has to find a pump at least once per day, or maybe even more than that, to keep the follower happy, then it makes the deal more intrusive.

I think having the player use a milk pump is ideal, but making them do it more than once a day might make it too hard.

For this feature, I don't need to handle living armor, parasites, etc, but I would need to pause the DF deal if they are present, because something like that should make getting milk for the follower impossible, so I just need to detect them.

I've done a lactacid deal, which is very simple, as it simply force feeds the PC a lactacid potion every day. They should pay the follower for those precious potions!

Is that too gentle though? Maybe the dose should start off at one, then increase by one every day, until a limit of ten?

*Lupine00* · July 27, 2020

3 hours ago, Fasterflight225 said:

I hesitate to release modifications to other people's work that aren't literal bugfixes or small-scale smoothing of corners, it's a conflict with a protocol of mine that demands I not use myself as a standard... Lemme clean up the dialogue a bit and figure out how to fix those damned navmeshes, I'll craft something that... exists.

There's really nothing complete in any of Devious Stories, and that's a little problematic.

A cow experience would make more sense as a new mod, so you didn't have to deal with the historical issues.

I had a couple of thoughts about a cow mod I would like to make, but never had time, or gave it sufficient priority...

1) A defeat scenario for SS or similar. The PC is locked in a cow-stall (interior), and the farmer comes in to feed and milk them from time to time.

There's nothing to do but eat, sleep and be milked, other than interact with the farmer. Just a small mod.

They have to either persuade the farmer to treat them like a human and let them go, or trick the farmer and escape, or kill the farmer and escape.

The farmer and farm are made up just for this scenario, so it's completely repeatable, even if it seems a little odd that new farmers keep taking you to the same place.

If you don't yield enough milk, you get fed a lot of lactacid.

The idea is to get away before you increase your boob size too much.

2) Something more like the Devious Stories become a cow episode ... but with a bit more pressure applied, and a long-term mechanic.

You offer to help the NPC, and she offers you a drink to help you produce more milk.

If you accept it, it's not lactacid, it's a sleeping drug.

You wake up in a high-security yoke or armbinder, otherwise naked apart from a milking harness, branded with cow tattoos and marked as the farmer's property.

The farmer says you agreed to it!

You can sit around the farm doing nothing, producing milk, or simply run off (after a while).

If you stay, there is food, a bed, lactacid on tap, and a load of milking sex.

If you run away, you need to get out of the restraints.

Players can easily run away after a day or two of being kept locked up.

But ... once you run away, after serving any time in prison, you are sent back to the farm instead of being released. Maybe some other ways too (see below).

You get restrained again, tattoos refreshed, or added to, force fed lactacid, and have a scene where the farm owner tells you off for running away and asks why you won't be a good cow.

Each time you run, your restraint set gets a little heavier and more oppressive, though that can only go so far.

However, if you stay with the farmer a couple of days and play the good cow, you can ask for a break, and the farmer will allow it.

You must wear your milker, and a special collar. If you remove either you break the "deal".

You can get your equipment back, if you were wearing it when the farmer got you. (No money though, you always lose that).

You can go off, and do whatever you like, but after a random duration 2 to 10 days(?), the collar gives a little alarm, and you must return to the farm to hand over your milks.

If your milks are short your quota, you get given lactacid, and have to wait a couple more days before you can leave again.

If your milks are sufficient, you can leave again immediately. If you are carrying money, it is taken, but you can easily work around that if you want.

If you break the deal, it's as if you ran away. Potentially, nothing could happen for ages, or ever ... if you never end up in prison.

Probably, if you're sold through SS, you could be returned to the farm. And perhaps from time to time bounty hunters try to take you back.

The farm never really stops you playing Skyrim, but does encumber you with a permanent collar and milking harness.

You can't drink your milk, you have to save it and give it to the farmer. If you get robbed of it, you'll be in trouble for that too.

Carrying a lot of milk may mean you return to the farm before the collar makes you do it.

Ultimately, boob size may become a problem. Maybe time to retire to the farm and never leave?

The DF milking deal has some parallels to those ideas I guess, but even simpler.

There's the separate lactacid deal, but the actual milking deal requires you to give the follower X fresh milks every day.

Possibly, the milks must come via a particular approach: milker, or milking harness, or manually milked by follower ... I'm not decided on that yet.

Probably, if you don't meet your quota, as well as cash punishment, you are fed lactacid. Unlike the easier lactacid deal, probably a LOT of lactacid.

*Ed86* · July 27, 2020

3 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Thanks for the details.

I think it would work with an actor, but for tracking, probably makes more sense to use a separate container.

I'll have to try some stuff and see how it works...

I have some flexibility on what I do.

I could make it so that the PC has to ask the follower to milk them, in which case I could drive it all with MilkingToContainer.

But that is not as much fun for the player as using the milk pumps, or maybe is too convenient for the player.

If the player has to find a pump at least once per day, or maybe even more than that, to keep the follower happy, then it makes the deal more intrusive.

I think having the player use a milk pump is ideal, but making them do it more than once a day might make it too hard.

For this feature, I don't need to handle living armor, parasites, etc, but I would need to pause the DF deal if they are present, because something like that should make getting milk for the follower impossible, so I just need to detect them.

I've done a lactacid deal, which is very simple, as it simply force feeds the PC a lactacid potion every day. They should pay the follower for those precious potions!

Is that too gentle though? Maybe the dose should start off at one, then increase by one every day, until a limit of ten?

well it can be like all drugs, "1st sample free", but after you gain 1st maid level its not free anymore and if you dont drink once per day get some debuff which is bigger with maid level, maybe hidden debt to follower, locked dd milk cuirass etc

*Ed86* · July 27, 2020

2 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

There's really nothing complete in any of Devious Stories, and that's a little problematic.

A cow experience would make more sense as a new mod, so you didn't have to deal with the historical issues.

I had a couple of thoughts about a cow mod I would like to make, but never had time, or gave it sufficient priority...

1) A defeat scenario for SS or similar. The PC is locked in a cow-stall (interior), and the farmer comes in to feed and milk them from time to time.

There's nothing to do but eat, sleep and be milked, other than interact with the farmer. Just a small mod.

They have to either persuade the farmer to treat them like a human and let them go, or trick the farmer and escape, or kill the farmer and escape.

The farmer and farm are made up just for this scenario, so it's completely repeatable, even if it seems a little odd that new farmers keep taking you to the same place.

If you don't yield enough milk, you get fed a lot of lactacid.

The idea is to get away before you increase your boob size too much.

2) Something more like the Devious Stories become a cow episode ... but with a bit more pressure applied, and a long-term mechanic.

You offer to help the NPC, and she offers you a drink to help you produce more milk.

If you accept it, it's not lactacid, it's a sleeping drug.

You wake up in a high-security yoke or armbinder, otherwise naked apart from a milking harness, branded with cow tattoos and marked as the farmer's property.

The farmer says you agreed to it!

You can sit around the farm doing nothing, producing milk, or simply run off (after a while).

If you stay, there is food, a bed, lactacid on tap, and a load of milking sex.

If you run away, you need to get out of the restraints.

Players can easily run away after a day or two of being kept locked up.

But ... once you run away, after serving any time in prison, you are sent back to the farm instead of being released. Maybe some other ways too (see below).

You get restrained again, tattoos refreshed, or added to, force fed lactacid, and have a scene where the farm owner tells you off for running away and asks why you won't be a good cow.

Each time you run, your restraint set gets a little heavier and more oppressive, though that can only go so far.

However, if you stay with the farmer a couple of days and play the good cow, you can ask for a break, and the farmer will allow it.

You must wear your milker, and a special collar. If you remove either you break the "deal".

You can get your equipment back, if you were wearing it when the farmer got you. (No money though, you always lose that).

You can go off, and do whatever you like, but after a random duration 2 to 10 days(?), the collar gives a little alarm, and you must return to the farm to hand over your milks.

If your milks are short your quota, you get given lactacid, and have to wait a couple more days before you can leave again.

If your milks are sufficient, you can leave again immediately. If you are carrying money, it is taken, but you can easily work around that if you want.

If you break the deal, it's as if you ran away. Potentially, nothing could happen for ages, or ever ... if you never end up in prison.

Probably, if you're sold through SS, you could be returned to the farm. And perhaps from time to time bounty hunters try to take you back.

The farm never really stops you playing Skyrim, but does encumber you with a permanent collar and milking harness.

You can't drink your milk, you have to save it and give it to the farmer. If you get robbed of it, you'll be in trouble for that too.

Carrying a lot of milk may mean you return to the farm before the collar makes you do it.

Ultimately, boob size may become a problem. Maybe time to retire to the farm and never leave?

The DF milking deal has some parallels to those ideas I guess, but even simpler.

There's the separate lactacid deal, but the actual milking deal requires you to give the follower X fresh milks every day.

Possibly, the milks must come via a particular approach: milker, or milking harness, or manually milked by follower ... I'm not decided on that yet.

Probably, if you don't meet your quota, as well as cash punishment, you are fed lactacid. Unlike the easier lactacid deal, probably a LOT of lactacid.

you can use orc milking caves for that, they are mostly done but has no quests

*Lupine00* · July 27, 2020

3 hours ago, Ed86 said:

you can use orc milking caves for that, they are mostly done but has no quests

? They've been in MME for well over a year and I never even heard of them...

I'm guessing you mean for (1) - the quick post-defeat scenario?

*Ed86* · July 27, 2020

10 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

? They've been in MME for well over a year and I never even heard of them...

I'm guessing you mean for (1) - the quick post-defeat scenario?

well yes, or alt scenario to enter orc villages or w/e you can think of

firepunch1 · July 27, 2020

I rewrote/edited all of the machine pumping stories to be a bit more descriptive and slightly cruel. Haven't touched the other ones yet. In case anyone wants to use them I'll leave them here in the appropriate thread. (If you don't want me to upload an edited version here I'll of course remove it immediately, just let me know.)

MilkQUEST.psc

HypernovaGM · July 30, 2020

I keep getting the message "MilkModEconomy MilkPoll interval is 0, mod is broken, have a nice day!" I've tried everything and it just wont go away. I mean the Milk Economu Tab is in the mod menu and the game runs fine and it looks like how it normally does, but the message keeps popping up and preventing me from playing.

*Ed86* · July 30, 2020

3 hours ago, HypernovaGM said:

I keep getting the message "MilkModEconomy MilkPoll interval is 0, mod is broken, have a nice day!" I've tried everything and it just wont go away. I mean the Milk Economu Tab is in the mod menu and the game runs fine and it looks like how it normally does, but the message keeps popping up and preventing me from playing.

it means that mme values not initialized correctly

and no , no idea how to fix it

Arcticelf · August 1, 2020

This is probably a mod conflict or some other known issue, but for no real reason what so ever, the PC stops generating milk unless Lactaid is involved. Any suggestions as to what to look for?

Two other questions.

1. Is there a way to get\sell milk from someone who is not your active companion?

2. Is there a way to disable the milk leakage on orgasm?

NoirXiaoba · August 1, 2020

3 hours ago, Arcticelf said:

the PC stops generating milk unless Lactaid is involved.

That's how it's supposed to work.

Fasterflight225 · August 1, 2020

5 hours ago, Arcticelf said:

This is probably a mod conflict or some other known issue, but for no real reason what so ever, the PC stops generating milk unless Lactaid is involved. Any suggestions as to what to look for?

Two other questions.

1. Is there a way to get\sell milk from someone who is not your active companion?

2. Is there a way to disable the milk leakage on orgasm?

Yes, dig into the Debug Milkmaid Menu. Don't forget to toggle Debug options in the relevant menu too, or no options will show up! One of those values might help you figure something out.

It's not... easy, getting milk from a non-follower. The basic way is by using a Harness and the Milk-A-Friend spell, though I don't remember if the player gets that milk or if it goes into their inventory. Fixed milk pumps are not a viable option, outside of an esoteric glitch with Elsie LaVache/The Milk Maid, even console commands to enable favor state won't KEEP a non-follower NPC in the pump for very long.

As for selling? Here's my copypasta. Enjoy!

Farmers, Orcs, and Khajit will buy any milk you have for sale.

Alchemists will buy Vampire, Werewolf, and Succubi milk. Do not know if that means the others won't, only that Khajit is stated to buy everything.

There's also a debug option that makes milk pumps buy milk, but I'm extra unfamiliar with that option.

The prompts are as follows.

Farmer: Are you interested in some fresh milk?

Orc: Can i interest mighty orcs with milk?

Khajit: I was woundering if Khajiit is interested in some fresh milk? (Yes, specifically misspelled, that is a direct copy-paste.)

Alchemist: I've heard alchemists buy some special milk, are you interested?

Finally, there is a way to disable the milk leaking on orgasm. Ed86 uploaded a modified script that turned it off... somewhere in this thread, I don't remember where very clearly. I'm just going to reupload the script, I don't want to have to go digging through three hundred pages for it.

No orgasm leak.7z

Arcticelf · August 3, 2020

That patch did not work. Looking it the date stamp is from last summer. A quick search that it won't work with the current version. Back to square one.

Fasterflight225 · August 4, 2020

@MysticDaedra @Lupine00 I'm back, and I brought a present.

https://www.loverslab.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=986204

That took a lot longer then I expected. I won't go too into detail, but long story short, the project snowballed and IRL complications interfered.

This is not the quick clean-up and table-setting I promised, this is a minor overhaul that replaces rather then fixes or enhances what was there. My bad, I don't know how to leave well enough alone, I got the true Bethesda experience working on this.

I know it says beta, but that's because I'm not satisfied or done here. But, since the project's goalpost was already being moved out of the stadium, I figured I should release a playable build first, before reaching for anything too reckless.

Check the changelog for more details, report any bugs you find, and most importantly: Have fun!

Xiaron · August 5, 2020

On 7/27/2020 at 1:20 AM, Lupine00 said:

1) A defeat scenario for SS or similar. The PC is locked in a cow-stall (interior), and the farmer comes in to feed and milk them from time to time.

There's nothing to do but eat, sleep and be milked, other than interact with the farmer. Just a small mod.

They have to either persuade the farmer to treat them like a human and let them go, or trick the farmer and escape, or kill the farmer and escape.

The farmer and farm are made up just for this scenario, so it's completely repeatable, even if it seems a little odd that new farmers keep taking you to the same place.

If you don't yield enough milk, you get fed a lot of lactacid.

The idea is to get away before you increase your boob size too much.

Yes, please? I'm aware of how many mods you've already got on your project list, but if you ever do have free time and interest enough, this would get my vote. Mostly unrelated question that I'm just hoping you can answer. Are there any mods that send you to SS on arrest that you know of?

ck2modfan · August 5, 2020

On 7/27/2020 at 3:16 PM, firepunch1 said:

I rewrote/edited all of the machine pumping stories to be a bit more descriptive and slightly cruel. Haven't touched the other ones yet. In case anyone wants to use them I'll leave them here in the appropriate thread. (If you don't want me to upload an edited version here I'll of course remove it immediately, just let me know.)

MilkQUEST.psc 150.01 kB · 16 downloads

Does this need to be compiled? Or just drop into the source folder? If need compile/pex, can you provide please?

firepunch1 · August 6, 2020

14 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

Does this need to be compiled? Or just drop into the source folder? If need compile/pex, can you provide please?

If you don't want to make any further changes before compiling then you can use this.

MilkQUEST.pex

ck2modfan · August 6, 2020

54 minutes ago, firepunch1 said:

If you don't want to make any further changes before compiling then you can use this.

MilkQUEST.pex 133.76 kB · 0 downloads

Thank you! Never got compilation of scripts to work.

ck2modfan · August 6, 2020

For living and parasite armors, would be interesting for new mod that would treat armor like a mimic where you think you are equipping ebony/daedric/dragon/etc... armor and in reality the armor was a living or parasite armor. Maybe a percent chance for all armors.

Or for a Devious Follower deal for PC to wear, similar to a DD. Or a FMEA event to trigger (from harvesting).

The goal is two-fold, get the living and parasite armors out in the world and then give a reason to have the player equip them. Then PC has to deal with removing!

treedweller1971 · August 8, 2020

Kind of liked this mod but it felt pointless from an economic point of view. If milk prices could be modded in the menu that could help.

_brandi_ · August 8, 2020

wish you could do more with the racial milk in the way of recipes... i like the depth that CACO goes into for that. separating milk and cream...so much potential right there not just for cooked materials but for drinks, like Colovian brandy with Imperial cream. specialized cheeses, and other dishes... running a food store or restaurant in Skyrim for discerning clientele... and every so often finding a new girl who really just fits the bill for those empty stalls in the barn or basement. Elsewyr Fondue with made with real Khajit cheese, always guaranteed fresh. of course the prices for those things would be enormous, and the effects should warrant the price.

Foxtrot6 · August 8, 2020

I was wondering if someone could help me out. I've used this mod before without problems and right now everything works like it should except the milk pump animation is unaligned. So is the furo tub from sexlab. But all the other furnitures from ZAP and such work fine. What can I do to fix it?

joe_yawiki · August 8, 2020

I got crash when trying to become milk maid. Is this because I messed up some bone or body mod right? can someone help me check what i have done wrong
my load order
0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
7 7 ApachiiHair.esm
8 8 SexLab.esm
9 9 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
10 a SexLabAroused.esm
11 b Devious Devices - Integration.esm
12 c Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
13 d CreatureFramework.esm
14 e ZaZAnimationPack.esm
15 f SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
16 10 Amputator.esm
17 11 HentaiPregnancy.esm
18 12 High Poly Head.esm
19 13 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
20 14 RaceCompatibility.esm
21 15 HighResTexturePack01.esp
22 16 HighResTexturePack02.esp
23 17 HighResTexturePack03.esp
24 18 XPMSE.esp
25 19 MilkModNEW.esp
26 1a MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
27 1b bac.esp
28 1c 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
29 1d 44bikini.esp
30 1e UIExtensions.esp
31 1f AddItemMenuLE.esp
32 20 Apropos2.esp
33 21 Blush When Aroused CE.esp
34 22 Blush When Aroused.esp
35 23 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
36 24 Cherry's Eyes.esp
37 25 FNIS.esp
38 26 Facelight.esp
39 27 FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
40 28 HentaiCreatures.esp
41 29 Brows.esp
42 2a KS Hairdo's.esp
43 2b RaceMenu.esp
44 2c Random Emotions.esp
45 2d SLAnimLoader.esp
46 2e SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
47 2f SexLab Extra Voices.esp
48 30 SLSO.esp
49 31 SexLabMatchMaker.esp
50 32 SkyUI.esp
51 33 TheCoenaculiUNP.esp
52 34 RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp
53 35 BHUNP3BBB.esp
54 36 SOSRaceMenu.esp
55 37 ScarletDawnArmor.esp
56 38 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
57 39 SlaveTats.esp
58 3a SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
59 3b MoreNastyCritters.esp
60 3c DeviousFollowers.esp
61 3d Spank That Ass.esp
62 3e SimpleSlavery.esp
63 3f isilNarsil.esp
64 40 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
65 41 MilkModNEW HF.esp
66 42 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
67 43 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
68 44 High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp
69 45 MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
70 46 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
71 47 MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp

Papyrus.0.log

ck2modfan · August 11, 2020

On 8/4/2020 at 7:58 PM, Fasterflight225 said:

@MysticDaedra @Lupine00 I'm back, and I brought a present.

SSD Farm Rework Beta.zip 156.06 kB · 17 downloads

That took a lot longer then I expected. I won't go too into detail, but long story short, the project snowballed and IRL complications interfered.

This is not the quick clean-up and table-setting I promised, this is a minor overhaul that replaces rather then fixes or enhances what was there. My bad, I don't know how to leave well enough alone, I got the true Bethesda experience working on this.

I know it says beta, but that's because I'm not satisfied or done here. But, since the project's goalpost was already being moved out of the stadium, I figured I should release a playable build first, before reaching for anything too reckless.

Check the changelog for more details, report any bugs you find, and most importantly: Have fun!

I figured I would download and check it out. Many of the NPCs are missing bodies. Head, hands, feet are fine.

Haven't used original SSD. Can you provide a hint on how to start? Or is it an interesting location with some flavor?

Fasterflight225 · August 11, 2020

4 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

I figured I would download and check it out. Many of the NPCs are missing bodies. Head, hands, feet are fine.

Haven't used original SSD. Can you provide a hint on how to start? Or is it an interesting location with some flavor?

Missing bodies means missing meshes. The models for those NPC's chest armor is missing. It shouldn't be affecting anyone else, but if it's NPCs this mod adds, that's because the original is required to be installed if not enabled for those meshes/textures/scripts. I also think the original gear needs to be built in bodyslide... but don't quote me on that one.

How to start... All right, so there's a farm outside... Riften, I think? The city in the bottom-right of the map? Well, the farm's southwest of there, first left off the main road, it's almost within visual range of Riften, you can't miss it.

You could also use Alternate Start with the Content Consumer's Alternate Starts expansion, which has a Start that literally inserts you into the farm with a free harness. I used this method for testing purposes... which in hindsight leaves a pretty big blind spot for bugs to manifest. Huh. Anyway, it's the method I used, so that one's most likely to work.

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