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Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

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Slorm

Slorm

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5 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

 

 

 

  • DCL doesn't play as well with Deviously Helpless, Milk Mod Economy, Deviously Enslaved, or SexLab (Devious) Stories, as you might expect or hope. It's probably safer not to co-install these mods together if you can possibly resist the urge.

 

 

Generally DH is okay with DCL except if wearing devices and defeated using combat surrender, as both DH and DCL fire at the same time. It looks a bit odd and the pc gets off lightly as the outcome is usually from DH rather than the harsher outcome from DCL.

 

IIRC Kimy will be adding a modevent dhlp_suspend in an upgrade, which will stop DH firing.
 

 

 

Ytheria

Ytheria

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4 hours ago, Slorm said:

 

Generally DH is okay with DCL except if wearing devices and defeated using combat surrender, as both DH and DCL fire at the same time. It looks a bit odd and the pc gets off lightly as the outcome is usually from DH rather than the harsher outcome from DCL.

 

IIRC Kimy will be adding a modevent dhlp_suspend in an upgrade, which will stop DH firing.
 

 

 

Sometimes DCL's rape event triggers during a DH rape event.  It's not game breaking but the animations get confused.  Happened to me several times while wearing the yoke of shame, but I think it can also happen from the 'ordinary' DCL rape triggers.

Lupine00

Lupine00

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Some things about the Dollmaker:

 

She seems to equip high-security armbinder on you, even when high-security armbinders are disabled.

First, you get the "Smoking hot" dialogue.

Pick light bondage.

Then go to talk to Dollmaker.

"You seem to be having fun?"

Nod...

Dollmaker "tightens" restraints. After that you get a different message when struggling, telling you that you need to seek another means of escape.

 

By design perhaps? But not what the player might have expected.

 

Sasha and the Dollmaker are oddly chatty. I've never had two NPC's so keen to inquire what I want.

They can fire their "greet" text over and over in rapid succession, with perhaps one or two seconds between them. When both are going off it's quite a lot of chatter. Can I help you? Do you need something?

 

 

She will buy restraints off me in the standard buy/sell, for cash, yet I can enquire about selling her some used restraints...

I always thought this dialogue was slightly inappropriate, as it's actually about obtaining keys via barter (no cash involved), when you can actually sell her restraints.

And there's the option to ask if she sells keys...

 

It's as if the Dollmaker has a fixation on used bondage gear and key trading, despite Kimy's assertion that she will never just make keys purchasable :) I actually think, why not make keys purchasable? If people want to give themselves keys, they can console them anyway. It can't be stopped. If I want to play hardcore, I won't buy keys off the Dollmaker (and I don't, I horde all the bondage gear ... gotta collect 'em all).

 

(That said, P.E. has an option to stop you using the console while naked. I suspect that could lead to some hard to fix problems down the line).

 

 

A small and definite bug:

 

Importing settings doesn't import the value for Indecent Exposure bounty.

 

 

An annoying quirk or three:

 

The bounty slider for indecent expose is set up a little strangely. It can select a fairly enormous value (10,000), but cannot be set any lower than 100.

 

Given the range of Beth default bounties, it seems odd indecent exposure is clamped at a minimum of 100 gold fine, while pickpocketing, an actual crime, can be as low as 12 with a bit of BS.

 

I'd like to set it low, with a high chance of being reported, but can't do that. I can set a lower bounty in P.E. but I'm afraid to enable that feature in case it gets in a fight with DCL.

 

Speaking of sliders with resolution issues...

 

The sliders for key drop chances (rare or regular) move in increments of 0.5%. I don't think it would hurt to have them nudge in 0.1% increments, just like the Cursed Loot drop percentages do. I know I would prefer that additional control in tweaking my key drop rates.

 

 

 

A probability I always wanted to control: a percentage chance for a hardcore event occurring on combat surrender, instead of just a tickbox for on or off.

 

 

And on the topic of combat surrender, it would really be so convenient if it were possible for it to trigger SD+ enslavements or trip to dream-world directly instead of via Simple Slavery. I've always found SS a bit prone to oddities, like porting my follower into the slave auction with me, or letting me slide out of the auction-room, in a stuck animation, or crashing to a black screen.

 

Being able to dump SS but keep SD+ would be sweet, even if it was something I had to configure via a console command.

There are other mods that can trigger SS, but none I want to get mixed up in - though it seems SD+ was originally written (pretty much) on the assumption you would run Defeat and have access to Defeat grapple submissions as an escape option.

 

Well, I know I can manually do an SD+ surrender, but many times I'm dead so fast I don't get the chance.

 

 

 

A question about Module Master Ordering...

 

I notice that DCL and DDi have different ideas about how the sexlab stack should be load-ordered. It might not be necessary, but I end up sorting masters in TES5Edit to resolve this.

 

Given that Kimy is the solo author of DCL, and lead on DDi, it's a bit odd that the two mods have different order expectations.

 

Which order is the best ?

Perhaps this will be cleaned up with the new releases?

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Lupine00

Lupine00

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On 06/11/2017 at 6:24 AM, Wyrade said:

Ah, Thank you very much, this was exactly the convenient solution I was looking for. :)

And the answer to that question was already posted (twice) on this very page!

LazyBoot

LazyBoot

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3 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Some things about the Dollmaker:

 

She seems to equip high-security armbinder on you, even when high-security armbinders are disabled.

First, you get the "Smoking hot" dialogue.

Pick light bondage.

Then go to talk to Dollmaker.

"You seem to be having fun?"

Nod...

Dollmaker "tightens" restraints. After that you get a different message when struggling, telling you that you need to seek another means of escape.

 

By design perhaps? But not what the player might have expected.

The "smoking hot" bit is something that any npc can do (possibly only female, I don't remember).

The "you seem to be having fun" bit is something you get from DDi when wearing both a gag and an armbinder or a yoke. Tightening is an outcome you can get from females, I don't recall what the male options were.

Either way, none of those are specific to the dollmaker, but rather something you can get from any npc.

Gameplayer

Gameplayer

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On ‎11‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 6:29 AM, stalfos81 said:

Is using DCL with Frostfall brave, foolish, or just hardmode?

Its entirely doable,

Had no problems but I gotta say at its default settings I wouldn't play it with Frostfall or other immersion mods just not worth it.

 

Set up Ive got going now is just Devious Captures, Defeat, and Captured Dreams no DCL...So its more about the actual Skyrim game really as Device events don't happen real often outside of combat failure.  So I have Frostfall installed and it works just fine and doesn't detract from the experience.

Lupine00

Lupine00

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20 hours ago, LazyBoot said:

The "smoking hot" bit is something that any npc can do (possibly only female, I don't remember).

The "you seem to be having fun" bit is something you get from DDi when wearing both a gag and an armbinder or a yoke. Tightening is an outcome you can get from females, I don't recall what the male options were.

Either way, none of those are specific to the dollmaker, but rather something you can get from any npc.

I never said they were specific to the DM, why would you think I meant that?

 

They are just the steps you can go through to get equipped with a HS armbinder when HS armbinders are disabled.

The way I describe them, I'm taking for granted everyone knows what they are.

 

Well I won't say that only the Dollmaker does that either, but I had other DM related things to discuss so I lumped them together.

 

It's also possible that the DM equipped me with the armbinder at the point I responded to Smoking Hot, and that the later nod, and tighten process was irrelevant.

 

 

Thanks for contributing Lazyboot, can you add anything on the topic of whether you can get equipped with HS armbinders when they are disabled, either through Smoking Hot, or through the tighten after nodding to females?

Though I believe females can also add devices, or do rapes, just like males (if you have female rapes enabled) - that could be wrong, perhaps you know for sure?

Tr_veller

Tr_veller

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Reading all the above (which is VERY interesting and thank you everyone!) - you're saying turn off DCL if I'm setting off on the CD Shop quests or they get mixed / messed up and cause issues? I think you may be right as I completely de-installed and re-installed CD and lots of different things are happening this time 'round...

 

Also - can anyone think of a good reason why I am not getting ANY trapped devices at all any more? It seems (I think) to have stopped since I completed the bound queen quest... I simply never get trapped any more - I've got LOADS of goodies but none being put on me.

LazyBoot

LazyBoot

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5 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I never said they were specific to the DM, why would you think I meant that?

 

They are just the steps you can go through to get equipped with a HS armbinder when HS armbinders are disabled.

The way I describe them, I'm taking for granted everyone knows what they are.

 

Well I won't say that only the Dollmaker does that either, but I had other DM related things to discuss so I lumped them together.

 

It's also possible that the DM equipped me with the armbinder at the point I responded to Smoking Hot, and that the later nod, and tighten process was irrelevant.

 

 

Thanks for contributing Lazyboot, can you add anything on the topic of whether you can get equipped with HS armbinders when they are disabled, either through Smoking Hot, or through the tighten after nodding to females?

Though I believe females can also add devices, or do rapes, just like males (if you have female rapes enabled) - that could be wrong, perhaps you know for sure?

Ok, here's what happened: the smoking hot dialogue put you in a regular armbinder, then when you nodded during the gag-talk the armbinder was tightened making it impossible to struggle out from. (This last bit is a feature from devious devices, not cursed loot)

But at no point is any high security armbinder used in the process.

FlameWolf2

FlameWolf2

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Recently installed this mod, but can’t find the MCM menu. Installed ModKicker, but the menu still doesn’t pop up. Is there a reason to this, such as too many mods, or a conflicting mod or some strange reason such as a bad load order? (I did run LOOT ;) )

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Wyrade

Wyrade

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On 2017. 11. 13. at 11:55 AM, Lupine00 said:

An annoying quirk or three:

 

The bounty slider for indecent expose is set up a little strangely. It can select a fairly enormous value (10,000), but cannot be set any lower than 100.

 

Given the range of Beth default bounties, it seems odd indecent exposure is clamped at a minimum of 100 gold fine, while pickpocketing, an actual crime, can be as low as 12 with a bit of BS.

 

I'd like to set it low, with a high chance of being reported, but can't do that. I can set a lower bounty in P.E. but I'm afraid to enable that feature in case it gets in a fight with DCL.

 

Speaking of sliders with resolution issues...

 

The sliders for key drop chances (rare or regular) move in increments of 0.5%. I don't think it would hurt to have them nudge in 0.1% increments, just like the Cursed Loot drop percentages do. I know I would prefer that additional control in tweaking my key drop rates.

I know it's just a workaround, but you can modify these values with cheatengine if you want. I myself wanted to set some values outside of their limits too.

On 2017. 11. 13. at 1:55 PM, Lupine00 said:

And the answer to that question was already posted (twice) on this very page!

I did use the search function, but apparently didn't choose good enough keywords or something, as i haven't found my answer on my own. AND there should be a link to a comprehensive faq in the very first post to avoid needing to answer already answered questions!

1 hour ago, FlameWolf2 said:

Recently installed this mod, but can’t find the MCM menu. Installed ModKicker, but the menu still doesn’t pop up. Is there a reason to this, such as too many mods, or a conflicting mod or some strange reason such as a bad load order? (I did run LOOT ;) )

Try "setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1" in console (without the quotation marks), and wait until there is a notification about mods being registered to the mcm menu - it should reregister all mods to the mcm.

If it still does not appear, you need to try other things, like yes, loadorder, reinstalling, and you could try a few other things that need a bit more advanced modding knowledge/experience. But mainly you should make sure everything - prerequisites, files, versions - are as they should be, that it actually tries to load and it is in the correct loadorder/plugins file, etc. Checking the papyrus log might also help, as could just waiting a bit more time, it is possible it just needs more time to complete installation. Could also try ingame waiting function, 1-2 days, not sure if that can help though.

Wyrade

Wyrade

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1 hour ago, undeadtoast said:

hi, im trying to download this mod but when it goes to the mega page nothing happens,it just goes to the mega home page

is there another way to download

thanks

Can confirm downloading it doesn't open the download page as it is supposed to, the key doesn't seem to be copied in (I'm using firefox).

WITHOUT downloading, the acces key is there as the name of the download though, so just open this link and it should work: mega.nz/#!uV0WCJBJ!csUWqC1AGf7ZoA9dGQfNYv0Y26AJsmTExmZ_SsiOtXQ

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undeadtoast

undeadtoast

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16 minutes ago, Wyrade said:

Can confirm downloading it doesn't open the download page as it is supposed to, the key doesn't seem to be copied in (I'm using firefox).

WITHOUT downloading, the acces key is there as the name of the download though, so just open this link and it should work: mega.nz/#!uV0WCJBJ!csUWqC1AGf7ZoA9dGQfNYv0Y26AJsmTExmZ_SsiOtXQ

thanks for the help the link worked for me 

moduseonly

moduseonly

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Is the download link just sending anyone else straight to mega.nz and not giving them the opportunity to actually download the file? It doesn't even show up on the mega site just information on what mega is and how to get an account.

MonoTheMonoCorn

MonoTheMonoCorn

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1 hour ago, moduseonly said:

Is the download link just sending anyone else straight to mega.nz and not giving them the opportunity to actually download the file? It doesn't even show up on the mega site just information on what mega is and how to get an account.

Yeah I'm having the same problem

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MonoTheMonoCorn

MonoTheMonoCorn

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1 hour ago, moduseonly said:

Is the download link just sending anyone else straight to mega.nz and not giving them the opportunity to actually download the file? It doesn't even show up on the mega site just information on what mega is and how to get an account.

https://mega.nz/&#!uV0WCJBJ!csUWqC1AGf7ZoA9dGQfNYv0Y26AJsmTExmZ_SsiOtXQ

 

I just kinda took the thing it says when trying to download it and paste it randomly in the Mega link. Apperantly this should work

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Redswift

Redswift

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17 minutes ago, pironemu said:

I have been having an issue forever with armbinders not being properly removed after solicitation, anyone else dealt with this before?

 

Yep, been having that too.

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