Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Guest]

Just now, Lupine00 said:

If it was taken down, it would also be removed from GitHub, wouldn't it?

If someone clones the repo (hundreds of people have cloned it, probably) they can restore any previous version.

 

Anyway they won't take it down.

[Tenri]

It isn't so much writing to Kimy about mistakes, as much as it is the venomous fluff added onto the posts about mistakes.

 

If you find a mistake, have a request for compatibility, or a suggestion for a feature that would fit well in DCL, you should write it out clearly and leave it as just that.

Being insulting, demanding, or just plain toxic is likely to get what you have to say ignored, and not just by Kimy most people don't like being treated that way.

 

I have some feeling about the direct replies to my previous post that I will keep to myself.

[Yuuen]

4 minutes ago, Tenri said:

It isn't so much writing to Kimy about mistakes, as much as it is the venomous fluff added onto the posts about mistakes.

 

If you find a mistake, have a request for compatibility, or a suggestion for a feature that would fit well in DCL, you should write it out clearly and leave it as just that.

Being insulting, demanding, or just plain toxic is likely to get what you have to say ignored, and not just by Kimy most people don't like being treated that way.

 

I have some feeling about the direct replies to my previous post that I will keep to myself.

I'd say a majority of people here have made such requests and raised concerns in a pretty civil manner. They're just being brushed off regardless.

[Raistlin_]

27 minutes ago, Yuuen said:

I'd say a majority of people here have made such requests and raised concerns in a pretty civil manner. They're just being brushed off regardless.

I apologize if you don't mean this the way I take it. It sounds like you're saying that if you've made a request or or raised a concern in a civil tone and it was brushed off that you can then take it up a notch maybe? Be more forceful and ask louder ? We can use her mod if we like it and what it does and ask or suggest things politely but the work is all and would be all Kimy's. We have no right to demand anything or be rude if we don't get our way. Again I apologize if I just read that wrong.

 

EDIT- Also it's fine if Kimy wants to brush off whatever she wants, we can't expect her to jump when we say.

[Lupine00]

41 minutes ago, Bobbert6996 said:

If someone clones the repo (hundreds of people have cloned it, probably) they can restore any previous version.

It's confusing when you write things that have already been said in a way that specifically looks as if you're correcting something, when you're simply repeating it.

 

As I already observed, owning a copy of the repository is no help to the people who don't already have one, because you aren't allowed to distribute it, because of the mod it contains, which you have no rights to.

[Lupine00]

4 minutes ago, Raistlin_ said:

EDIT- Also it's fine if Kimy wants to brush off whatever she wants, we can't expect her to jump when we say.

This is paradise.

 

If it was the Nexus, we'd all be banned for posting insufficiently gushing comments of adoration.

[Raistlin_]

2 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

This is paradise.

 

If it was the Nexus, we'd all be banned for posting insufficiently gushing comments of adoration.

That's the same thing I would say about anyone not just Kimy. We alone have the right to our work and time. If we choose to share it that's a bonus for those we share it with.

[liruidong]

It seems that there are some problems in spirits of DCL which cause touch of control dose not work with NPC.

I used the spirits of the previous version instead. This spell did work.

[gamer098]

Hello, just updated to 8.0 today, trying out the new prison on a fresh save, pretty satisfied with it so far (little disappointed it's not disable-able so I can switch back and forth between POP and this mod, but that's ok).

 

However I am having a couple of issues that occur during arrest. Often times, after the punishment is started (chastity belt, walk of shame, etc), one of these two things happen:

 

1. The guard talks to me again, and begins to administer a second punishment as if the first had not happened.

2. The guard begins to attack me and kills me. I am unable to surrender.

 

Does anyone know why this is happening? Is it a mod incompatibility? I did make sure to disable POP. See the spoiler below for my active mod list. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

 

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[Yuuen]

13 minutes ago, Raistlin_ said:

I apologize if you don't mean this the way I take it. It sounds like you're saying that if you've made a request or or raised a concern in a civil tone and it was brushed off that you can then take it up a notch maybe? Be more forceful and ask louder ? We can use her mod if we like it and what it does and ask or suggest things politely but the work is all and would be all Kimy's. We have no right to demand anything or be rude if we don't get our way. Again I apologize if I just read that wrong.

 

EDIT- Also it's fine if Kimy wants to brush off whatever she wants, we can't expect her to jump when we say.

You did take that in the wrong way. Not saying it's really wanted from either side because Kimy has been just as snappy.

 

I think it boils down to dcur being such a big mod used by so many people that cutting off other mods feels like a detriment for the community as a whole. And no one really can figure out how to word it in a way that's just "can you please just do this for the community" when it comes the compatibility issues.

[Raistlin_]

1 minute ago, random11714 said:

Hello, just updated to 8.0 today, trying out the new prison on a fresh save, pretty satisfied with it so far (little disappointed it's not disable-able so I can switch back and forth between POP and this mod, but that's ok).

 

However I am having a couple of issues that occur during arrest. Often times, after the punishment is started (chastity belt, walk of shame, etc), one of these two things happen:

 

1. The guard talks to me again, and begins to administer a second punishment as if the first had not happened.

2. The guard begins to attack me and kills me. I am unable to surrender.

 

Does anyone know why this is happening? Is it a mod incompatibility? I did make sure to disable POP. See the spoiler below for my active mod list. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

 

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I did have the guards attack me , that was because i skipped through the dialogue faster then it wanted me too. Maybe that reason? It worked wehen i just let it go it's own pace. Not sure about the second punishment, haven't had that.

[Raistlin_]

3 minutes ago, Yuuen said:

You did take that in the wrong way. Not saying it's really wanted from either side because Kimy has been just as snappy.

 

I think it just boils down to dcur being such a big mod used by so many people that cutting off other mods feels like a detriment for the community as a whole. And no one really can figure out how to word it in a way that's just "can you please just do this for the community" when it comes the compatibility issues.

Ah cool cool lol. 

[Darkpig]

1 minute ago, Raistlin_ said:

That's the same thing I would say about anyone not just Kimy. We alone have the right to our work and time. If we choose to share it that's a bonus for those we share it with.

This sounds like some kumbaya bullshit. Care to repeat yourself? Just because it is her mod doesn't mean she has got to be shitty about it but then again this is the internet so all is fair game. Also this kombucha tastes awful.

[Raistlin_]

1 minute ago, Darkpig said:

This sounds like some kumbaya bullshit. Care to repeat yourself? Just because it is her mod doesn't mean she has got to be shitty about it but then again this is the internet so all is fair game. Also this kombucha tastes awful.

Consider it repeated.

[Lupine00]

16 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

Also this kombucha tastes awful.

All kombucha has the same flavour, no matter what they say it is - unfortunately it all tastes like kombucha  Start worrying when you begin to like it.

 

17 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

Also, should this not be a discussion about issues or problems with DCL and not who owns what and what should the mod support in terms of other mods?

There is some relevance to DCL in all this, in that is has been pointed out that nobody except Kimy is allowed to fix how DCL interacts with crime.

You are not allowed to patch or modify it.

 

Also turns out that the SLIF patch is banned too.

 

Possibly, people thought the intent of those rights claims was to prevent wholesale forking, but it turns out that they're highly relevant in another context, and this was intended all along.

 

At least as I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, the intent was always to block any patch or modification to DCL, no matter how minor - at both the ESP and script levels?

 

I would guess as a corollary of this, that any ESP merging, or Tes5Edit of DCL is considered problematic ... that you can do it but ... you shouldn't ask for help on the forum if you do ... because the rationale is that any patching might break DCL. You should probably also make sure that DCL is last in your LO, in case anything overwrites it. I think I'm joking here ... but TBH it's getting a bit of a grey area. The first rule of modifying DCL is that you never talk about modifying DCL!

[gamer098]

23 minutes ago, Raistlin_ said:

I did have the guards attack me , that was because i skipped through the dialogue faster then it wanted me too. Maybe that reason? It worked wehen i just let it go it's own pace. Not sure about the second punishment, haven't had that.

That was it, thank you. It worked fine if I let the dialogue progress at its own speed.

[Raistlin_]

Just now, random11714 said:

That was it, thank you. It worked fine if I let the dialogue progress at its own speed.

Awesome , you're welcome.

[Kimy]

2 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I would guess as a corollary of this, that any ESP merging, or Tes5Edit of DCL is considered problematic ... that you can do it but ... you shouldn't ask for help on the forum if you do ... because the rationale is that any patching might break DCL. You should probably also make sure that DCL is last in your LO, in case anything overwrites it.

Seriously? How does ANY of the above conflict with "You can not redistribute patched versions of DCL's assets"?

 

At this point you're just trolling me to prove to Inte that you're not my lackey, am I right?

[Darkpig]

37 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

Kimy has always been kinda sassy, which is why I like her.  Also, should this not be a discussion about issues or problems with DCL and not who owns what and what should the mod support in terms of other mods? It is a "support" thread which means debugging, not support every major mod out there. Save the license, etc for off topic or general discussions, at least IMO. 

 

(also sorrry for the OT in this reply, just kinda annoying that this happens quite frequently) 

 

Modders also tend to listen to your requests much more if you "support" them. https://www.patreon.com/kimy

Okay. I get that. People do tend to get a bit excited. I tend to get a bit excited. The internet and society alike are very gun slingery. Everyone wants to be heard in this mad paradise.

 

I'd say that in a way they can be issues as finding mod incompatibilities can help discover issues within the mod itself but that is very minor. One has to be calm when choosing what is in and what is out. If one goes it about the wrong way there becomes a big misunderstanding and it becomes Game of Thrones.

 

I've seen some shitty things said from both sides. Some are said by Kimy and some are said to Kimy so shame on you all and all that jazz.

 

Aaaand I won't lie. I kind of enjoy this. *Cooks popcorn*

[stas2503]

People, let's stop swearing, but better summarize:
1. The subject VendorItemFood is omitted in the subject of prison_stew, this prevents the prison food from being determined as food for survival mods (by the way, this error is solved by two clicks in TesVEdit) ...
2. After the first dialogue, the guard starts the second one and becomes aggressive ... I’ll add from myself that the player is still charged the amount of the fine when he goes to jail ... As far as I know, there is no such thing in a vanilla prison ...
3. there is no possibility to turn off the dialogue from DCL in the guards (maybe someday it will appear, but I have a suggestion about this future option: put a whore collar on the character - both freedom and player are punished) ...
4. conflict with mods that change sleep, such as SD + ...
Is there anything else? .. I think this is good food for thought for the author of the mod ...

[Raistlin_]

2 minutes ago, stas2503 said:

People, let's stop swearing, but better summarize:
1. The subject VendorItemFood is omitted in the subject of prison_stew, this prevents the prison food from being determined as food for survival mods (by the way, this error is solved by two clicks in TesVEdit) ...
2. After the first dialogue, the guard starts the second one and becomes aggressive ... I’ll add from myself that the player is still charged the amount of the fine when he goes to jail ... As far as I know, there is no such thing in a vanilla prison ...
3. there is no possibility to turn off the dialogue from DCL in the guards (maybe someday it will appear, but I have a suggestion about this future option: put a whore collar on the character - both freedom and player are punished) ...
4. conflict with mods that change sleep, such as SD + ...
Is there anything else? .. I think this is good food for thought for the author of the mod ...

5. Surrendering as a werewolf because it doesn't consider you armed.

[Kimy]

2 minutes ago, stas2503 said:

People, let's stop swearing, but better summarize:
1. The subject VendorItemFood is omitted in the subject of prison_stew, this prevents the prison food from being determined as food for survival mods (by the way, this error is solved by two clicks in TesVEdit) ...

The next patch actually will contain a feature that should make the prison work nicely with pretty much any needs mod. It's not that didn't write that patch days before some people decided to be rude about it, or so.... :S

[Kimy]

4 minutes ago, stas2503 said:

4. conflict with mods that change sleep, such as SD + ...

Can somebody explain to me what the problem here is? SD+ and the DCL prison cannot run at the same time, so....???

[Kimy]

2 minutes ago, Raistlin_ said:

5. Surrendering as a werewolf because it doesn't consider you armed.

Fix for this is already in!

[Raistlin_]

Just now, Kimy said:

Fix for this is already in!

Oh ty much.