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Are there any disadvantages to wearing arm/leg cuffs? most of the devices seem to have disadvantages listed in the magical effects tab like slower movement speed on boots or lower combat stats on Bras and obvious ones like the chastity belt, but i don't feel like the cuffs really do anything besides just show up on your body

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5 minutes ago, Statick16 said:

Are there any disadvantages to wearing arm/leg cuffs? most of the devices seem to have disadvantages listed in the magical effects tab like slower movement speed on boots or lower combat stats on Bras and obvious ones like the chastity belt, but i don't feel like the cuffs really do anything besides just show up on your body

Not 100% sure right now, but i think arm cuffs have a chance to uhm.. unarm? your arrow when using bows, and ankle cuffs a chance you stumble. A few ankle cuffs with chains also restrict your movement, like not beeing able to ride anymore and/or movement speed.

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On ‎11‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 3:23 PM, timking said:

i actually also have a request:

after surving LL i found this 

i quite like the outfit and the request would be, could you add it pretty please?

The author gives people permission to do with the file what they want as long as credits are given.

could I maybe get your opinion on this? should it be included or not? 

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Okay, so this is going to be a weird one.  There's probably a fix earlier in the replies, but we're on 717 pages.

Whenever I interact with a trapped object, the text bubble that pops up with information is written as if it's the PC applying the bondage item to "Bound Girl" and nothing happens.  I have no idea what error could possibly cause this, but it's very much reproduceable in my game.

Any ideas, anyone?

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22 minutes ago, twch said:

Okay, so this is going to be a weird one.  There's probably a fix earlier in the replies, but we're on 717 pages.

Whenever I interact with a trapped object, the text bubble that pops up with information is written as if it's the PC applying the bondage item to "Bound Girl" and nothing happens.  I have no idea what error could possibly cause this, but it's very much reproduceable in my game.

Any ideas, anyone?

Ironically, this was answered on the previous page.

 

The bound girl messages are irrelevant. Completely harmless. You can ignore them.

 

That you saw them when opening an item is coincidental really, it's not a defect in the trap on that item.

 

 

When the trap code runs, it happens that some other related DCL script code gets to run, and that code runs things, like routine updates on bound girls.

If a bound girl is being spawned and equipped with bondage items when you have your inventory open, the game thinks it's you putting them on her, because you have a menu open.

It's an old, old bug that dates back to the first introduction of bound-girls.

 

DCL could probably avoid it, simply by not doing bound-girl updates when a menu is open.

 

If Kimy wanted to fix it for all mods that use DD, it would (probably) require carefully aligned changes through the entire equip-item call chain, so that equip calls can explicitly hush that kind of message. Even then, the DD-dependent mods that want to take advantage of the fix would also need to update to set the hush parameter to true, as it would presumably default to false for compatibility.

 

Putting the fix in DCL would be easier, so it might happen one day. Who knows?

It would probably still happen occasionally with that fix, due to race conditions.

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Hey, having big problems with the stages in Chloe's quest. The stage to talk to the imperial man in the meadery couldn't be completed as he had no pointer and when I found him, no quest dialogue. Restarted the questchain, but it bugged at the white river watch boss chest. Restarted it again, it happened at the stage where you crawl in the collapsed tunnel under Helgen.

Couldn't manage to progress it with setstages but I'm not very good at modding.

Looks good so far! Could see some of the text quest in the console, hoping for the best!

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no matter what i try i can't get this:ScreenShot3.bmp

to stop showing up everytime i see a bound npc (any, not just bound girls)

i tried disabling DD for the masses

new safe

just about every mod menu option combination

load order:

 

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
  7  7     Wyrmstooth.esp
  8  8     ApachiiHair.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     SexLab.esm
 12  c     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 13  d     SexLabAroused.esm
 14  e     SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
 15  f     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 16 10     Heretical Resources.esm
 17 11     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 18 12     WM Flora Fixes.esp
 19 13     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
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 21 15     NPCs.esm
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           WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp
           Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
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 62 3e     SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp
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           RDO - Immersive Horses Patch.esp
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155 9b     RealNames.esp
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           Religion - CCOR Amulets.esp
           Religion CCF Patch.esp
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161 a1     SexLabDefeat.esp
162 a2     SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp
163 a3     SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
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166 a6     TavernGames.esp
167 a7     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
168 a8     Toccata as Elisif.esp
169 a9     UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
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171 ab     Valerica.esp
172 ac     VioLens.esp
173 ad     Vivid Landscapes.esp
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175 af     Wyrmstooth - Typo Fix.esp
176 b0     Wyrmstooth - Follower Tweaks.esp
177 b1     Wyrmstooth - Quest Tweaks.esp
178 b2     Wyrmstooth - Radiant Encounter Tweaks.esp
179 b3     XPMSE.esp
180 b4     iHUD.esp
181 b5     mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp
182 b6     mslDeviousCaptures.esp
183 b7     ogDiverseDragons2.esp
184 b8     Saadia.esp
185 b9     UrielSisters.esp
186 ba     Olfina.esp
187 bb     KomAnimObjects.esp
188 bc     KomAnimScaler.esp
189 bd     DD_Helpers.esp
190 be     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
191 bf     Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
192 c0     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
193 c1     Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

please help me

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Hello.

 

First, thank you and congratulations for this mod, it is really awesome !

 

I started a new game, everything worked fine for about 5 hours. But since, I have two issues :

 

- The cursed loot events are not triggering anymore (I'm not bound, and I didn't set a maximum devices threshold. Even if I set the chance to 100%, nothing happens). EDIT : My bad, I forgot about the arousal threshold. This problem is fixed.

 

- The Dollmaker sword doesn't apply its effect anymore : I see the glowing effect on the ennemy, but nothing happens after (even on female ennemies).

 

Do you have an idead why this happens ?

 

Thank you !

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The bound struggle animation isn't working for me.  The character just lies on the ground in-between the various struggle dialogue options (wiggle arms, feet, body).  It used to work in version 6, but stopped working in 7.

 

I think it would be more fun if the struggle was done through a mini-game (like in the Thief mod) instead of just a dialogue box and random chance.

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1 minute ago, WaterRabbit said:

The bound struggle animation isn't working for me.  The character just lies on the ground in-between the various struggle dialogue options (wiggle arms, feet, body).  It used to work in version 6, but stopped working in 7.

 

I think it would be more fun if the struggle was done through a mini-game (like in the Thief mod) instead of just a dialogue box and random chance.

That's broken for a while now. I think Kimy said that she wants to rework it.

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7 hours ago, timking said:

no matter what i try i can't get this:ScreenShot3.bmp

to stop showing up everytime i see a bound npc (any, not just bound girls)

i tried disabling DD for the masses

new safe

just about every mod menu option combination

load order:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

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  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
  7  7     Wyrmstooth.esp
  8  8     ApachiiHair.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     SexLab.esm
 12  c     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 13  d     SexLabAroused.esm
 14  e     SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
 15  f     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 16 10     Heretical Resources.esm
 17 11     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
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 19 13     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
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 37 25     Immersive Jewelry.esp
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           Babette.esp
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 57 39     Combat Evolved.esp
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           Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
 58 3a     Immersive Weapons.esp
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           FtM_3.esp
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146 92     LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp
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190 be     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
191 bf     Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
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193 c1     Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

please help me

I am pretty sure i saw a Fix on some Devious Mod Support Section. Im trying to find it but google doesn´t help.

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7 hours ago, timking said:

no matter what i try i can't get this:ScreenShot3.bmp

to stop showing up everytime i see a bound npc (any, not just bound girls)

i tried disabling DD for the masses

new safe

just about every mod menu option combination

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please help me

 

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10 minutes ago, AkiKay said:

I am pretty sure i saw a Fix on some Devious Mod Support Section. Im trying to find it but google doesn´t help.

 

 

If you are talking about the missing hands this a problem with older versions of DD. When "wearing" an armbinder the arms come out but the hands stay in. There is no "fix" of which I am aware but it is supposed to be less of a problem with the newest version of DD.

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8 hours ago, timking said:

no matter what i try i can't get this:ScreenShot3.bmp

to stop showing up everytime i see a bound npc (any, not just bound girls)

This is because your bound animations are not playing.

 

Some people have reported this problem is persistent for them, but most people don't have it.

Conclusion: the people with the problem have an installation issue.

 

But nobody has identified a universal cause or solution 

 

However...

 

  • Check your FNIS
  • Slaverun 3 beta (and some other mods) are known do resets on the animation overrides, continually breaking bound animations.

 

In timking's LO, the biggest standouts are FNIS Sexy Move and Dual Sheath Redux (and a patch for it).

 

Try a new game without those to see if the problem goes away. Sexy Move is a terrible script hog anyway. It was an notable cause of script lag for me.

 

Also, try moving to Mator Smash instead of old Bashed Patch. It will fix problems you don't even know you have :) 

 

 

This is assuredly an animation problem caused by a conflict of one kind or another. If the quick test doesn't show results, just go through your mods and disable everything (except DD) that's not just a texture or some weather. See if it's fixed. Then enable mods until it breaks. At that point, there you are ... you found the cause.

 

Of course, if it's not fixed in the first case, you might need more drastic measures.

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Hi!

 

I just started a new game recently with a (relatively) new (almost full with several merged mods) mod loadorder.

Starting with vanilla start and picking up Chloe, I am now done with her questline (as far as I can see).

The questline equipped some chains on me, necks - hands - ankles interconnected, which had my character holding her hands together in front of her. These were unequipped by The Dollmaker at the end of the questline.

 

My problem is that my character's default pose is holding her hands together in front of her, like when she was in chains.

This is purely cosmetic and has no impact on the game as far as I can see, I can do everything, but whenever her hands are not readied, they are together in front of her.

Is there a way I could reset that so she uses the normal standby pose? Any ideas what I could/should try and/or check?

 

Thanks!

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36 minutes ago, Wyrade said:

The questline equipped some chains on me, necks - hands - ankles interconnected, which had my character holding her hands together in front of her. These were unequipped by The Dollmaker at the end of the questline.

Sounds like you stackdumped when they were being removed.

 

Try putting on an armbinder, then removing it. Might reset the default.

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34 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Sounds like you stackdumped when they were being removed.

 

Try putting on an armbinder, then removing it. Might reset the default. 

Thanks, it indeed did reset the default non-ready pose WITHOUT arm restraints.

 

On the other hand, when I equipped a pink armbinder to test, the default non-ready pose of is was that of a yoke (as in the hands are held upwards as if it is in a yoke, while the armbinder is in its proper place), and then I tried a heavy yoke, which had its default non-ready pose as the pose of an armbinder (holding the hands together behind the back). The ready poses had their hands in their proper places though (bound combat is enabled).

 

I tested it on a new game and had the same issue, so it's very likely unrelated to DLC, but any ideas why THAT might be and how I could fix it / find the cause?

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12 hours ago, illusk said:

Is there a way to disable paw mittens and bell plugs completely? They're so annoying.

They are built into the lists for devious gloves and devious plugs. So the only way to disable them is to disable gloves/plugs completely.

 

Shameless Self Promotion: I did make a mod that makes wearing paw mittens at least at bit more tolerable instead of just being another "disable everything but unarmed melee" restraint:

 

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1 hour ago, Wyrade said:

I tested it on a new game and had the same issue, so it's very likely unrelated to DLC, but any ideas why THAT might be and how I could fix it / find the cause?

Most likely (but by no means certain) it's a mod that is messing with animation overrides.

 

Sounds like it's looking at your char to decide what animation you're using, then restoring it over and over.

 

If you have any animation replacers, mods with crawling, mods with flying, dual-sheath etc, try testing with them disabled.

Use new games, don't forget to re-FNIS and don't use a Mator Smash.

 

Another possibility is that your DD is crashing a lot. Is there a clue in your Papyrus log?

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