Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[WYH661129]

I found that all gags with balls only work on humans, not elves and beasts.

It is said that this question has been asked countless times and answered countless times, but I regret that I did not find the answer.

[hungvipbcsok]

7 hours ago, kaldwin said:

@Kimy I just finished the bound queen quest and I have to say it's kind of frustrating.  I realize that's kind of the point, but there's a couple of things that make it unnecessarily so.  First off, I can't kill Julius; he's marked as essential. The quest marker specifically directs you to kill him as one of the possible ways to advance past that stage, but that solution isn't possible, and I reeeeeaaaaly want to shove a sword through his stupid, smug face.  Second, why does touching the cursed collar end the bound queen quest?  I just spent 4 real-time hours trying to get out of one set of restraints, only to get locked in another?  Come on kimy; we didn't even agree on a safe word here.  At least give us a break in between quests

 

On a side note.  Now that DD for him is part of DD 5, it would be a fun alternative if you could lock Julius in a chastity belt for revenge.  Like when you return to melanie and tell her what happened, she gets really mad.  She then gives you a 'letter' to give to julius, and when he reads it, he's stripped naked and belted with the only key in your position.  And he's gonna have to eat a lot of pussy if he wants that key

 

come to think of it, there's plenty of opportunity for revenge bondage in your quests.  Suppose there's an exit through the warden's room at Dagonar (might need a quick escape incase of a prisoner uprising).  Suppose the warden brings you to her room to...search you for contraband.  Suppose you've found a way out of your restraints.  Suppose you've put them back on, manipulating the locks, so that you can quickly remove them when she turns her back to lock the door behind the two of you.  Now you've got the drop on her.  you tie her up, gag her, and shove a vibrater in her pussy before booking it through her private escape tunnel.  Just make sure you don't get arrested again, or the last thing you see will be her smug smile and the inside of a rubber hood before spending a few very long weeks strapped to a wooden horse

Boundqueen quest has a reward chest hidden in a location in a book. I think it is somewhat rewarding after hours completing the quest.

[hungvipbcsok]

Anyone have a same problem as mine? 

The inventory of DollMaker is gone after i have played the game 10 hours or so. (DCL9.0 beta 3)

I don't know is that a problem occur because of save file bloated but last time i have play a save file more than 100 hours in DCL8.5. 

[Zaflis]

42 minutes ago, WYH661129 said:

我发现所有带球的口香糖只在人类身上起作用，而不是对精灵和野兽起作用。

 

据说这个问题已经问了无数次，回答了无数次，但我很遗憾，我没有找到答案。

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Google translate:

I found that all gums with balls only work on humans, not elves and beasts.

It is said that this question has been asked countless times and answered countless times, but I regret that I did not find the answer.

I wonder what that actually means; my guess is gags?

[hungvipbcsok]

6 hours ago, biarjpink said:

hi, i'm new here, i liked to surrender when disarmed but it was removed with the update, is there any mod that does the same?

It is the complex surrender option in MCM rape page. Power attack may knock you down. Also if you are bound and can't fight back (both hand and feet) then you auto surrender.

[WYH661129]

4 hours ago, Zaflis said:

我不知道这到底是什么意思，我猜是恶作剧？

yes gags，sorry I make a mistake .

It looks like I just put the translation on there.

[iamwookie]

13 hours ago, kaldwin said:

@Kimy I just finished the bound queen quest and I have to say it's kind of frustrating.  I realize that's kind of the point, but there's a couple of things that make it unnecessarily so.  First off, I can't kill Julius; he's marked as essential. The quest marker specifically directs you to kill him as one of the possible ways to advance past that stage, but that solution isn't possible, and I reeeeeaaaaly want to shove a sword through his stupid, smug face.  Second, why does touching the cursed collar end the bound queen quest?  I just spent 4 real-time hours trying to get out of one set of restraints, only to get locked in another?  Come on kimy; we didn't even agree on a safe word here.  At least give us a break in between quests

 

On a side note.  Now that DD for him is part of DD 5, it would be a fun alternative if you could lock Julius in a chastity belt for revenge.  Like when you return to melanie and tell her what happened, she gets really mad.  She then gives you a 'letter' to give to julius, and when he reads it, he's stripped naked and belted with the only key in your position.  And he's gonna have to eat a lot of pussy if he wants that key

 

come to think of it, there's plenty of opportunity for revenge bondage in your quests.  Suppose there's an exit through the warden's room at Dagonar (might need a quick escape incase of a prisoner uprising).  Suppose the warden brings you to her room to...search you for contraband.  Suppose you've found a way out of your restraints.  Suppose you've put them back on, manipulating the locks, so that you can quickly remove them when she turns her back to lock the door behind the two of you.  Now you've got the drop on her.  you tie her up, gag her, and shove a vibrater in her pussy before booking it through her private escape tunnel.  Just make sure you don't get arrested again, or the last thing you see will be her smug smile and the inside of a rubber hood before spending a few very long weeks strapped to a wooden horse

 

Fun fact the scripts are set to 21 days and he will give you release, or you can get it the other way.

I seen where in the scripts Kimy sets his essential status properly I don't think skyrim likes to listen to the change though all the time as I've been able to kill him before.

Myself I just set the timer to 1 day from 21 and compiled the modified script just to get it out of the way.

Now if there was a revenge portion to this even if it was earlier that would be interesting, instead of forced bjs turning it into him being made the slave by some method??

Well there is possibilities 

 

[therealkarlsquell]

Hi is thisone from dcl .... because i just added it to my loadorder and this never happened before.

 

 

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, therealkarlsquell said:

Hi is thisone from dcl .... because i just added it to my loadorder and this never happened before.

 

 

it actually is from alternate start, since in the vanilla version you can't get there unless you use console commands. With DCL instead you teleport beyond the rubble when you interact with the ash pile and the only way (that I know of) out is to continue and get that message

[therealkarlsquell]

allright thx

[Zaflis]

2 hours ago, abcdefghilmn said:

it actually is from alternate start, since in the vanilla version you can't get there unless you use console commands. With DCL instead you teleport beyond the rubble when you interact with the ash pile and the only way (that I know of) out is to continue and get that message

You mean in Helgen keep during Chloe quest? I never got that message and i do have Alternate Start. It's not teleporting anywhere illegal to my knowledge, just to the cave side. Perhaps some other Helgen mod is overriding CursedLoot's esp for him.

[Elsidia]

5 hours ago, Zaflis said:

It's not teleporting anywhere illegal to my knowledge,

This happen in 100% cases  if you after complete DCL "Captured princess" quest  go straight to Chloe quest.

To avoid it you must first complete quest "Live another life" to save Ralof or Hadvar. And for that you need after complete "Captured princess" enter in Helgen, search a burned corpse, then exit from Helgen and enter in this cave with Chloe quest from another side. Then save Hadvar or Ralof - cave collapses and you escape from cave from the same entry where you get in. Then you can go into Helgen prison or dungeon (never mind how it names) and continue Chloe quest. Then this message after squeeze through not appear and you after spider cave with note enter in this collapsed cave. Of course at this moment cave is "restored" and not look collapsed) If you don't completed this "Live another life" quest then after spider cave you are teleported to Helgen keep, dungeon or prison (anyway how name this location) start and shows up this message about cheating.

 

5 hours ago, Zaflis said:

You mean in Helgen keep during Chloe quest?

 

[kaldwin]

18 hours ago, hungvipbcsok said:

Boundqueen quest has a reward chest hidden in a location in a book. I think it is somewhat rewarding after hours completing the quest.

I'm aware of that.  The quest it self isn't what I find frustrating (it's supposed to be).  It's the fact that I have to put on the cursed collar and start that quest in order to end the bound queen quest that I found frustrating.  I put other quests on hold to get myself out of that belt, but just when the quest is coming to a close and I can get back to what I was doing:  boom! cursed collar quest.  My frustration is that 2 very long quest are effectively smushed into one very, very long quest

 

And yes, I could just not touch the collar, (that's what I originally did) but DCL regular events are still blocked at that quest stage

[kaldwin]

12 hours ago, iamwookie said:

I seen where in the scripts Kimy sets his essential status properly I don't think skyrim likes to listen to the change though all the time as I've been able to kill him before.

So is Julius scripted to become unessential once the key is repaired?  I'm not sure if this is a bug, a game engine problem, or just an oversite by kimy

[shadowwolf2k7]

7 hours ago, Elsidia said:

This happen in 100% cases  if you after complete DCL "Captured princess" quest  go straight to Chloe quest.

To avoid it you must first complete quest "Live another life" to save Ralof or Hadvar. And for that you need after complete "Captured princess" enter in Helgen, search a burned corpse, then exit from Helgen and enter in this cave with Chloe quest from another side. Then save Hadvar or Ralof - cave collapses and you escape from cave from the same entry where you get in. Then you can go into Helgen prison or dungeon (never mind how it names) and continue Chloe quest. Then this message after squeeze through not appear and you after spider cave with note enter in this collapsed cave. Of course at this moment cave is "restored" and not look collapsed) If you don't completed this "Live another life" quest then after spider cave you are teleported to Helgen keep, dungeon or prison (anyway how name this location) start and shows up this message about cheating.

 

 

you can complete both, there is a "pile of ash" on the floor that allows you to bypass the collapse and still talk to hadvar/rolof when you get to them, unless if it got broken in beta 3

[hungvipbcsok]

46 minutes ago, shadowwolf2k7 said:

you can complete both, there is a "pile of ash" on the floor that allows you to bypass the collapse and still talk to hadvar/rolof when you get to them, unless if it got broken in beta 3

It is still function but when my MC wearing strict hobble straightjacket (or maybe because abandon Claire to her doom), interact with the pile ash will receive message "you cannot squeze through the hole"

[Elsidia]

56 minutes ago, shadowwolf2k7 said:

you can complete both, there is a "pile of ash" on the floor

Don't understand you:

1) Pile of ash work only in one direction - you can get into spider cave but can't exit from it.

2) I don't found second pile of ash what can teleport back to Helgen keep. Instead of that there is passage what leads into cave of hadvar quest cave and go into this cave. And when you do - you are teleported back as cheater.

3) I don't say that you can't complete both quests. Only you need do it in right order.

4) I not test it but even i think after that cheater message both quest snot broken. I think, but not test it.

 

To be 100% clear i speak about DCL 8.5 SE. Also SE doesn't have any changes from DCL 8.5 LE, only updated meshes and HDT physics.

 

[Guest]

14 hours ago, Zaflis said:

You mean in Helgen keep during Chloe quest? I never got that message and i do have Alternate Start. It's not teleporting anywhere illegal to my knowledge, just to the cave side. Perhaps some other Helgen mod is overriding CursedLoot's esp for him.

I was not clear, Elisidia did a much better job at explaining everything in detail. If you don't complete the quests in the right order you get that message.

 

> 4) I not test it but even i think after that cheater message both quest snot broken. I think, but not test it.

@Elsidia i always complete the quests in the wrong order and i never had any problems, so should be fine either way

[shadowwolf2k7]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

Don't understand you:

1) Pile of ash work only in one direction - you can get into spider cave but can't exit from it.

2) I don't found second pile of ash what can teleport back to Helgen keep. Instead of that there is passage what leads into cave of hadvar quest cave and go into this cave. And when you do - you are teleported back as cheater.

3) I don't say that you can't complete both quests. Only you need do it in right order.

4) I not test it but even i think after that cheater message both quest snot broken. I think, but not test it.

 

To be 100% clear i speak about DCL 8.5 SE. Also SE doesn't have any changes from DCL 8.5 LE, only updated meshes and HDT physics.

 

i have read the book you get outside in the courtyard of helgen, went intside and started the chloe quest upto the point of freeing her and then used the activator (looks like the pile of ash) went in to the spider cave killed the spiders talked to hadvar/rolor and then got the quest to go to riverwood. talked to chloe about having to go to the meadery after talking to hadvar and had both quests update properly.

 

 

1 hour ago, hungvipbcsok said:

It is still function but when my MC wearing strict hobble straightjacket (or maybe because abandon Claire to her doom), interact with the pile ash will receive message "you cannot squeze through the hole"

you have to get it removed then talk to chloe to advance that part

 

[Elsidia]

31 minutes ago, shadowwolf2k7 said:

talked to chloe about having to go to the meadery

And how you exit a cave? Exit path is blocked but if you go deeper you got cheating message.

[Zaflis]

12 hours ago, Elsidia said:

And how you exit a cave? Exit path is blocked but if you go deeper you got cheating message.

I too had a try as i'm starting new game (on LE). First i entered Helgen area but i didn't even go to the corpse to check for the letter for dragon quest. I went directly into the Helgen keep instead, rescued Chloe and carried on past the activator pile (added by DCL) and spider cave end exited cave. Then i'd continue to Honningbrew etc... There was no error dialog and no blocked exits. I didn't even talk to the imperial or stormcloak, don't think i'll be doing dragon quest... but if i will i can always go back.

 

I mean i don't know what's happening with SSE but there are also mods that change Helgen layout. Are you sure you don't have any of those?

 

Edit: Actually when i got to Riverwood i first talked to Alvor (Chloe with me) and that started dragon quest xD

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, Zaflis said:

I mean i don't know what's happening with SSE

Ok later when i have mood, i will check a chain what makes appear this message: Captured princess quest, check burned corpse, go to Helgen keep and rescue Chloe, go to spider cave and then read a note and speak with Chloe. Will see if message of cheating appears when try to left spider cave and enter into LAL quest cave cell.

UPD: also i not go to Riverwood before this. Probably if you do this it's close LAL cheating problem.

I don't have many additional mods: Simple slavery, Devious followers, Laura Bondage shop, Zaz 8. I think no one of those mods not change a Helgen. Later (when will be stable DCL 9.0) i plan remove Simple Slavery, Zaz 8, Devious followers. At this stage of DCL 8.5, when i change my video card to RTX3070 i got unstable Dawnstar: in other places all works good, but into Dawnstar are rapid CTD or Skyrim SE goes painfully slow. I can't even say if this is just papyrus engine slows game, or CPU or GPU overload because when i check task manager it's show that all good. Also further tests show that it's start at the DCL timing event tick: load a game wait 30 sec for DCL timer tick and at this moment game CTD or start freezing. Also it maybe happen on DCL sex scene start, but this can't confirm. Maybe it's start after i update my Skyrim to DD 5.0, but not sure. Also i not report this as bug because i don't start new game. Also test before DD 5.0 shows me that Zaz 8 slows down DCL solicitation menu appearing. Because i think i can remove those mods, then start a new game with stable DCL 9.0 version and then will see if CTD still happens into Dawnstar. 

As my suspect but not as bug report i think there can be:

1) Wrong placed Dollmaker home at Dawnstar. (sometimes when i have DD 4.3 and DCL 8.5 and video card GTX 550 TI, when i exit from Dollmaker home it go into infinite load screen. Because i can suspect this home as key to CTD) Also when Skyrim start freezing and you left Dawnstar cluster by feet - freezes stops.

2) New DD 5.0 NPC DD items equipping system what's lead to abnormally overload Skyrim game engine. This i conclude of reports about low performance of Whips and chain inn where are may tied NPC's. In Dawnstar i have most tied up NPCS (about 3 - 4 persons) But also in Whiterun are some tied NPC, but there no problems.

4) HDT SMP SE physics mod what can work wrong with chains. Also it's force Skyrim SE CTD in main menu loading screen. It's start SKSE64 then instead of start Skyrim SE it's CTD. It's happen if in Win10 are changed date and time format from original US English. Also after change to back Skyrim SE starts. As most curious are then when i change back date format to Latvia - Skyrim SE no more CTD) 

 

This is only as my thoughts report. Maybe someone can do own decisions on this and can found some actual problem, what can exist in DD 5.0 and DCL and can try to fix in future.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Zaflis said:

I too had a try as i'm starting new game (on LE). First i entered Helgen area but i didn't even go to the corpse to check for the letter for dragon quest. I went directly into the Helgen keep instead, rescued Chloe and carried on past the activator pile (added by DCL) and spider cave end exited cave. Then i'd continue to Honningbrew etc... There was no error dialog and no blocked exits. I didn't even talk to the imperial or stormcloak, don't think i'll be doing dragon quest... but if i will i can always go back.

 

I mean i don't know what's happening with SSE but there are also mods that change Helgen layout. Are you sure you don't have any of those?

 

Edit: Actually when i got to Riverwood i first talked to Alvor and that started dragon quest xD

My experience is the same as Elsidia and I am 90% sure I have no mod that modify Helgen or the main questline besides LAL. I'll check later with a basic installation and see what happens.

[knots1353]

11 hours ago, Elsidia said:

And how you exit a cave? Exit path is blocked but if you go deeper you got cheating message.

 

This is an unfortunate long standing "feature" of LAL itself that I remember seeing when playing on SSE with LAL and DCL 8.x.   I haven't seen this playing on LE with LAL and DCL 9, so either LAL is missing that "feature" in LE, or DCL 9 has figured out a way around it.

 

The workaround on SSE is to proceed through the Chloe quest right up to the spider encounter (the note you're looking for is on the imperial corpse in the middle of that cave), then move forward and let LAL teleport you outside of Helgen Keep, then walk around and enter the cave from the *exit* side to meet Ralof or Hadvarr. 
 

[shadowwolf2k7]

20 hours ago, Elsidia said:

And how you exit a cave? Exit path is blocked but if you go deeper you got cheating message.

this has to be an issue with LAL SE. since i dont have that issue with the LE version and DCL 8.5 or 9.0 beta 3

 

9 hours ago, knots1353 said:

 

This is an unfortunate long standing "feature" of LAL itself that I remember seeing when playing on SSE with LAL and DCL 8.x.   I haven't seen this playing on LE with LAL and DCL 9, so either LAL is missing that "feature" in LE, or DCL 9 has figured out a way around it.

 

The workaround on SSE is to proceed through the Chloe quest right up to the spider encounter (the note you're looking for is on the imperial corpse in the middle of that cave), then move forward and let LAL teleport you outside of Helgen Keep, then walk around and enter the cave from the *exit* side to meet Ralof or Hadvarr. 
 

i didnt have the issue with 8.5 on LE either so it must have been an issue with the port of either LAL or something being different in DCL 8.5 SE