Slaverun 20140824 + Enforcer V5

[WaxenFigure]

Will the next update include a fix for the problem with wearing Devious Devices?

Lets see, Devious Devices tend to cover and make unavailable the naughty bits that this mod is uncovering and making available. That would be a clash of mod intent and I don't see how they would work well together.

 

OTOH, allowing the married women protection from conceiving and raising bastards while still allowing ready access to their other charms (breasts, mouth and ass) does sound like something that should be allowed in the laws.

 

So the question is how should Devious Devices be handled if they are allowed (yes, making them optional is definitely number one on that list)?

 

How should an existing DD covering or making unavailable for sexual use any part of the DB, a follower or even another NPC be handled in light of the nudity laws?

 

 

Any attempt to implement Devious Devices though will definitely not be in the next release of the Enforcer mod, I am closing in in a releasable new version of that mod and I won't put it off to handle DD items.

[Emprah]

Well, there are some of the chastity belts that have an Open slot, so perhaps only the open ones would be allowed? Thing is I run deviously cursed loot, and after the quest in bleak falls barrow I tend to go right for the first dragon fight instead of stopping to make keys for the DD items (Of which I do at the Whiterun forge)

[TheSpider]

Dude, this Mod is great. no problems, a lot of Atmosphere and generell Detail. I love that you can talk to all kind of slaves, asking them about there backstory. Great work!

[Chopstk]

The enforcer part has been acting a bit buggy for me.  Occasionally I have to leave and re-enter the town for it to start and I don't think the reported for wearing clothes part is working.  Could someone tell me what I should see in the console if debug messages are enabled?  Also what is supposed to happen if I'm reported?

 

Edit:  Nvr mind, I got it, conflicting mod + apparently you need to pick the right option from brutus or the clothes thing won't be enforced.  Disregard this.

[afa]

 

Lets see, Devious Devices tend to cover and make unavailable the naughty bits that this mod is uncovering and making available. That would be a clash of mod intent and I don't see how they would work well together.

 

OTOH, allowing the married women protection from conceiving and raising bastards while still allowing ready access to their other charms (breasts, mouth and ass) does sound like something that should be allowed in the laws.

 

So the question is how should Devious Devices be handled if they are allowed (yes, making them optional is definitely number one on that list)?

 

How should an existing DD covering or making unavailable for sexual use any part of the DB, a follower or even another NPC be handled in light of the nudity laws?

 

 

Any attempt to implement Devious Devices though will definitely not be in the next release of the Enforcer mod, I am closing in in a releasable new version of that mod and I won't put it off to handle DD items.

 

Depends on how far you want to go. The easiest method would probably be a MCM check box menu allowing user to select if individual pieces of DD should count as violating the law or not. Although some could get a little weird, I can't imagine the blindfold, collar, and shackles count as violation, but for completion sake I guess it is technically fine.

An even more minimalist approach would be just check boxes for the bra, two versions of the belts, and two version of gags, could add arm binder too if looks like it covers too much or blocks certain animation.

 

A more complex or perverted approach that you have touched on   would be to consider what is "available to use" or "within view" from the wearer. Say we can have it set up so that if a character is wearing a belt then she can't wear bra because it blocks too much "view". Or we can go with the approach where the character needs to always have something to be use, so if a full belt is worn then mouth (or breast or maybe hand) has to be available. An open belt on the other hand can go with a full gag and bra. If character is wearing a full gag then something else has to be open, etc.

 

The enforcer part has been acting a bit buggy for me.  Occasionally I have to leave and re-enter the town for it to start and I don't think the reported for wearing clothes part is working.  Could someone tell me what I should see in the console if debug messages are enabled?  Also what is supposed to happen if I'm reported?

Debug messages should show you a bunch of checks for NPCs nearby, will show male's arousal and if they seeking female. If you active it to the max you should be getting nearly endless messages.

Getting reported by NPCs should show a message on the top left corner and a bounty will be put on you.

[mithras562]

After removing this mod all the women in whiterun are still naked. How do I fix this? 

[WaxenFigure]

After removing this mod all the women in whiterun are still naked. How do I fix this?

By using the option in the enforcer mod mod to shut it down BEFORE you uninstalled it.

 

I checked and the current version of the mod I'm working on doesn't seem to allow that option to check . Don't know if that's a problem with the released V5 version.

 

The console "resurrect" command should do the trick but you'll have to do it individually.

 

(answered in another forum already but copied here because others will be able to benefit from it if they do any searching of the thread).

 

Everyone, please don't spam the same question to multiple threads and forums. The support threads (such as this one) are the right place to ask for help.

[pinky6225]

 

After removing this mod all the women in whiterun are still naked. How do I fix this?

By using the option in the enforcer mod mod to shut it down BEFORE you uninstalled it.

 

I checked and the current version of the mod I'm working on doesn't seem to allow that option to check . Don't know if that's a problem with the released V5 version.

 

The console "resurrect" command should do the trick but you'll have to do it individually.

 

(answered in another forum already but copied here because others will be able to benefit from it if they do any searching of the thread).

 

Everyone, please don't spam the same question to multiple threads and forums. The support threads (such as this one) are the right place to ask for help.

 

 

What should happen when you use the shutdown button since I clicked it and it didn't tick but i didn't think that was abnormal as most of the mods that use MCM and have a similar function don't show any acknowledgement either unless its a close the MCM now one.

 

[Mart0206]

This is a nice mod with a lot of potential. But i found out a few bugs, 2 are really anoying.

 

First --> i tried the mod with a new game

Bug 1): After you got Lydia or any othre follower with you and leave Dragonreach, the follower keep running the stairs up and down till the end of time.

Can be bypass by using fast travel after leaving Dragonreach

Bug 2): A lot of npc´s keep stuck at the big tree near the temple since some things are new in this area. Same spot is the wolf cage (for example, Heimskr)

Bug 3): Questline with the companions didn´t go on after you came back with Farkas from the tomb with the Wuuthraad Fragment. Vilkas awaits the player and tell yu to follow him, but Vilkas start running to the tree, back to the stairs to Jorvaskr and back to the tree and so on. Quest say: Follow Vilkas!, so it didn´t go on.

--> can be bypass by taking control over Vilkas via console and walk to the backyard of the hall where the others are waiting by yourself.

Bug 4): Prison Overhaul seems to did not work with this mod. Every time i enter the Dragonsreach Dungeon, i stuck on loading screen. Options are set like the mod description said, but after ten tries i gave up.

 

*Edit*

 

Prison Overaul´s Fast Forward function seems to be the problem. But if you don´t use it, the jailer won´t walk the steps down of dragonreach, He stucks at the haöf and walk back --> infinity loop starts..

[TheSpider]

Will you create other cities like Slaverun? That would be awesome. And is there any way for the non slave women to be dressed? I just can't see a strong and worrior type girl like Alea or the Huscarl beeing naked all the time, that is a little bit out of character i think. Maybe a MCM Option for that would be great. But thanks for the awesome mod again

[Thisisne88]

So how does one go about becoming free ? I completed the whole quest line, gave him 5000 gold, and I chose the option to visit every 7 days. But I don't want to do that, I want to run away and become free. So, I waited 7 days to see if he would call down a bounty on me and if I stayed free long enough it might go away, but I ended up waiting 14 days, and about every 10 seconds or so I get the you have 48 hours to return to your master message. And even when I return nothing happens. I also chose the second option saying I wanted to be free on another save, and he said I won't be fre as long as I have this key. So I stole the key, took my gear, now I can't get the shackles off. Even when I go into the mcm, it gets rid of them at first, but then it says "slavesluts are required to wear shackles" so I can't become free that way either. I can't even shut off the slaverun enforcer mod. What gives?

[jfraser]

So how does one go about becoming free ? I completed the whole quest line, gave him 5000 gold, and I chose the option to visit every 7 days. But I don't want to do that, I want to run away and become free. So, I waited 7 days to see if he would call down a bounty on me and if I stayed free long enough it might go away, but I ended up waiting 14 days, and about every 10 seconds or so I get the you have 48 hours to return to your master message. And even when I return nothing happens. I also chose the second option saying I wanted to be free on another save, and he said I won't be fre as long as I have this key. So I stole the key, took my gear, now I can't get the shackles off. Even when I go into the mcm, it gets rid of them at first, but then it says "slavesluts are required to wear shackles" so I can't become free that way either. I can't even shut off the slaverun enforcer mod. What gives?

There is no real freedom option at this point. You can set the amount of time to longer than 7 says in the MCM but you can never be really free.

 

You can RP it - revert to a save before you got enslaved, pretend all the slavery stuff happened, and slit Zaid's throat.

[germanicus]

I played this mod recently. It evolved into a great and very playable mod. The only thing that I don't like is that it changed body type to all my NPCs in the game. So, all of them has a exactly the same body type. I do not know how it did it, but it did it. When I uninstalled him, the body type returned to previous state.

[Thisisne88]

 

So how does one go about becoming free ? I completed the whole quest line, gave him 5000 gold, and I chose the option to visit every 7 days. But I don't want to do that, I want to run away and become free. So, I waited 7 days to see if he would call down a bounty on me and if I stayed free long enough it might go away, but I ended up waiting 14 days, and about every 10 seconds or so I get the you have 48 hours to return to your master message. And even when I return nothing happens. I also chose the second option saying I wanted to be free on another save, and he said I won't be fre as long as I have this key. So I stole the key, took my gear, now I can't get the shackles off. Even when I go into the mcm, it gets rid of them at first, but then it says "slavesluts are required to wear shackles" so I can't become free that way either. I can't even shut off the slaverun enforcer mod. What gives?

There is no real freedom option at this point. You can set the amount of time to longer than 7 says in the MCM but you can never be really free.

 

You can RP it - revert to a save before you got enslaved, pretend all the slavery stuff happened, and slit Zaid's throat.

So what about slitting zaid's throat while being under his 7 day visit thing? Would that work? Also, why is it that I keep getting the message every 2 seconds that I have 48 hours to report back to him when I have waited longer than 17 days? Also what about removing the shackles after pickpocketing the chest key? Is that possible? Because the mcm doesn't seem to work for removing the shackles. Neither does turning off slaverun enforcer through the mcm which doesn't seem to work at all.

[jfraser]

 

 

So how does one go about becoming free ? I completed the whole quest line, gave him 5000 gold, and I chose the option to visit every 7 days. But I don't want to do that, I want to run away and become free. So, I waited 7 days to see if he would call down a bounty on me and if I stayed free long enough it might go away, but I ended up waiting 14 days, and about every 10 seconds or so I get the you have 48 hours to return to your master message. And even when I return nothing happens. I also chose the second option saying I wanted to be free on another save, and he said I won't be fre as long as I have this key. So I stole the key, took my gear, now I can't get the shackles off. Even when I go into the mcm, it gets rid of them at first, but then it says "slavesluts are required to wear shackles" so I can't become free that way either. I can't even shut off the slaverun enforcer mod. What gives?

There is no real freedom option at this point. You can set the amount of time to longer than 7 says in the MCM but you can never be really free.

 

You can RP it - revert to a save before you got enslaved, pretend all the slavery stuff happened, and slit Zaid's throat.

So what about slitting zaid's throat while being under his 7 day visit thing? Would that work? Also, why is it that I keep getting the message every 2 seconds that I have 48 hours to report back to him when I have waited longer than 17 days? Also what about removing the shackles after pickpocketing the chest key? Is that possible? Because the mcm doesn't seem to work for removing the shackles. Neither does turning off slaverun enforcer through the mcm which doesn't seem to work at all.

As I said, there is currently no way to become totally free if you start the slave quest. Slitting his throat won't take the shackles off. Nothing will.

 

The feverish warnings about your time running out is a known issue; presumably it will be fixed when an update comes along.

[mithras562]

 

After removing this mod all the women in whiterun are still naked. How do I fix this?

By using the option in the enforcer mod mod to shut it down BEFORE you uninstalled it.

 

I checked and the current version of the mod I'm working on doesn't seem to allow that option to check . Don't know if that's a problem with the released V5 version.

 

The console "resurrect" command should do the trick but you'll have to do it individually.

 

(answered in another forum already but copied here because others will be able to benefit from it if they do any searching of the thread).

 

Everyone, please don't spam the same question to multiple threads and forums. The support threads (such as this one) are the right place to ask for help.

 

Yeah.. I started a new game with this active, decided I didn't want it yet, and removed it by force, since as you said, the deactivation doesn't work. I figure all would be fine anyway, since I had never been anywhere near whiterun.. but I was wrong. I come across Aela and Ria killing the giant and both are nude. I tried the resurrect thing on Ria, but it didn't work. She respawned, but was still nude and the extended UI thing I am running still only shows her having one piece of equipment in her inventory when I select her, which would be the sword on her hip. Even if the activation thing gets fixed.. the game now crashes on load if I activate slaverun, and I didn't even change anything from when the mod was active. I need another solution, I just started the game over, I really don't want to do it AGAIN. 

 

Edit: Yeah.. The resurrect trick doesn't work on anyone.

Edit 2: Correction.. It doesn't work on WOMEN. I saw a random guard walking around naked and the resurrect thing worked on him. 

[tissemann]

Just installed this mod and there is a compatibility issue with  Realistic Lighting Overhaul, it conflicts with the wolf-pit with some foliage and a statue which adds alot of clipping and whatnot. I made a "patch" for it in ck and it should be fine now. If I break any rules uploading the file I will remove it.

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

[Guest Long John]

Could Zaz Animation Pack's ability to control the player character be used to make the player character be restrained in the one of the cages, and locked there over night?

 

Using the API now present in Slavetats is to possible for the player character and follower to recieve non-player removable tatoos?

It will also need a json file for the modification defined.

 

In order to do this though the restraints will need to be unequipped for the other restraints in the cage to be usable and re-equipped afterwards.

[jfraser]

Could Zaz Animation Pack's ability to control the player character be used to make the player character be restrained in the one of the cages, and locked there over night?

In order to do this though the restraints will need to be unequipped for the other restraints in the cage to be usable and re-equipped afterwards.

SD has done that for ages, so yes. Although a heat source would need to be close by for us Frostfall addicts. I'd like to see the character stuck on the x-cross in the slavepen at the beginning of the Slavery and not let down until they're starving and exhausted so the slavers have a (literal) carrot to dangle to get the player to do what they want. Add the fabulous new skooma mod and include some force-feedings in this mod, and we're really getting to an immersive feel.

 

Although, like others, I'd prefer if the beastiality component could be toggled off.

[Guest Long John]

What about Slavetats support bearing in mind the API now present in Slavetats 1.0.4 or higher?

 

For the the skooma they could sneak it into the food and/or have it poured through the ring gang (devious device) while wearing one during initial training, alternatively at the beginning of the slavery

[blue1820]

After removing this mod all the women in whiterun are still naked. How do I fix this? 

 

The uninstall feature did not work for me, unless you want to start a new game, go get a mod called NPC clothes changer and maintainer on nexus mods and you can fix that, that's how i fixed it.

[archgeek]

I've just installed this mod for the first time, and I've got to the training the jarl sends you to in the dungeons. I get put on the x cross and whipped. What is supposed to happen next? Because I end up just waiting forever for some reason.

[WaxenFigure]

I've just installed this mod for the first time, and I've got to the training the jarl sends you to in the dungeons. I get put on the x cross and whipped. What is supposed to happen next? Because I end up just waiting forever for some reason.

Do you have the option in Sexlab for Creature Sex turned off? Because that is the point you'll break the mod if it is disabled. You are supposed to be taken off the X-Cross and sent for a session with the Falmer but you do get an opportunity to defy the guy and get another session under the whip if you like before going on to the Falmer.

[archgeek]

 

I've just installed this mod for the first time, and I've got to the training the jarl sends you to in the dungeons. I get put on the x cross and whipped. What is supposed to happen next? Because I end up just waiting forever for some reason.

Do you have the option in Sexlab for Creature Sex turned off? Because that is the point you'll break the mod if it is disabled. You are supposed to be taken off the X-Cross and sent for a session with the Falmer but you do get an opportunity to defy the guy and get another session under the whip if you like before going on to the Falmer.

 

 

I think that might be it. Would that cause the guard to finish whipping me and go and sit down? I had to use console command to restore player control, and when i tried to talk to him I got a message that he was busy.

[sammael44]

I'm browsing the forum to see if anyone else had this problem, but when I loaded the mod I get all the visual changes, but no dialogue is opened, I'm not being arrested for not being naked, can't get any response from any of the slavers, etc, etc.  I double checked all my requirements already, and ran loot and fnis.  Is anyone aware of what I'm doing wrong or had this issue before?

 

Just checked it with a new game and it worked fine.  Just trying to figure out how to get it started on my main game I guess.  When I check the mcm, the option to turn it on isn't clicked, but whenever I try to reclick it it tells me that Slaverun has reinitiated, but than automatically turns off again.