Apropos

[gooser]

 

 

 

i though, why not reverse line order? in this way first line will appear fist and long text will be readable

 

That would be nearly impossible since you can't account for the length of a character's name. 

 

If {ACTIVE_NAME} is "Bill", the line will be a lot shorter than if {ACTIVE_NAME} is "Jarl Bolgruf the Greater"

 

Apropos creates message string, so length is known. The only thing needed to achieve this is reverse notification order:

Function DisplayMessage(String mess, Int maxSegmentLength = 70) Global
    ; Display to user log and Skyrim screen
    If (StringUtil.GetLength(mess) <= maxSegmentLength)
        LogToAll(mess)
        Debug.Notification(mess)
    Else
        Int arrayId = JString.wrap(mess, maxSegmentLength)
        Int i = JArray.count(arrayId)
        While (i > 0)
            i -= 1
-           String part = JArray.getStr(arrayId, i)
+           String part = JArray.getStr(arrayId, - i - 1)
            LogToAll(part)
            Debug.Notification(part)
            
        EndWhile    
    EndIf
    
    Utility.Wait(0.5)
EndFunction

 

That's actually how it was implemented (sans JC stuff) weeks ago, but after playing with it, reversing actually it more usable/readable. We could add a MCM option to indicate direction, but its just a bandaid until the SKSE plugin comes out that will radically up the ante on displaying descriptions in Apropos.

 

 

Because of the way this area scrolls so older items are on the bottom and the newest message is on the top, the "natural" way to sequence them is the way its currently implemented. Look at the attached screenshot. Reversing the order would make it hard to understand the whole sentence, because it would look like:

 

"cock inside ..."

"Falmer ..."

"Unable to fight back ..."

 

So in code we now put the last segment first, 2nd, then the first segment last, while Skyrim scrolls everything down. 

 

But again, I'd rather not spend time tweaking this any further. Debug.Notification has been a regular PITA and I want to come up with something better.

[chajapa]

Any idea when that SKSE plugin is expected? I've been messing with the display trying to tweak it by using what we have, but I'm more than willing to just live with it for now if some kind of new screen area access is imminent.

 

I REALLY want to use decauk's descriptions and they just plain need more room than Debug.Notification allows for. On my machine at least. And for my poor old eyes.... "old" being the keyword.... 

 

I'm really enjoying this mod, gooser, and appreciate all of your efforts and the thought you're putting into the development of it. *applause*

[gooser]

Sorry but its not imminent, but I really want it to happen. You've seen my short list. Good news is that Foxyvixen is back from the hiatus, so things are going to speed up and I should be able to spend more time on the new SKSE plugin. If effect what is going to happen, is all the regular SkyUI icons on the upper right hand corner are going to be moved down to make room for a new real estate and all messages will be displayed in the top-right corner. And that will also give me the power to specific timing, font size, scrolling.

[Daycrist]

 

 

Apropos apprearently doesn't know my char has breasts, a vagina, or that males have penises

 

For some reason I am not allowed to uploads the .log files

 

 

I get this

 

Error You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file

[gooser]

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enb 2014_04_27 21_55_45_48.jpg

 

Apropos apprearently doesn't know my char has breasts, a vagina, or that males have penises

 

For some reason I am not allowed to uploads the .log files

 

 

I get this

 

Error You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file

 

1. Have you used Apropos before? A previous version on this game save?

2. Try using winzip or 7zip to compress the log file.

[Daycrist]

 

enb 2014_04_27 21_52_48_76.jpg

 

enb 2014_04_27 21_55_45_48.jpg

 

Apropos apprearently doesn't know my char has breasts, a vagina, or that males have penises

 

For some reason I am not allowed to uploads the .log files

 

 

I get this

 

Error You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file

 

1. Have you used Apropos before? A previous version on this game save?

2. Try using winzip or 7zip to compress the log file.

 

 

1. Yes I did use a previous version I just updated from 2014_03_07 to 2014_04_24

 

2. The file itself is only 32 KB large I just seem restricted somehow by the website not sure why

[gooser]

 

 

enb 2014_04_27 21_52_48_76.jpg

 

enb 2014_04_27 21_55_45_48.jpg

 

Apropos apprearently doesn't know my char has breasts, a vagina, or that males have penises

 

For some reason I am not allowed to uploads the .log files

 

 

I get this

 

Error You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file

 

1. Have you used Apropos before? A previous version on this game save?

2. Try using winzip or 7zip to compress the log file.

 

 

1. Yes I did use a previous version I just updated from 2014_03_07 to 2014_04_24

 

2. The file itself is only 32 KB large I just seem restricted somehow by the website not sure why

 

 

If you are updating, you need to make sure you click [Refresh] under Message Preferences in MCM.

[ylenard]

Is it normal that I usually get more than one description of the orgasm? Sometimes I get only one, but most of the time ~5.

 

Thanks for the great mod.

[Fredfish]

 

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2. The file itself is only 32 KB large I just seem restricted somehow by the website not sure why

 

 

I think the reason you can't upload is the file format rather than the size. Making you zip up all uploads prevents numpies from uploading live viruses or something.

[foxyvixen21]

Hello all I am back, I am currently testing for Female to Female integration.

 

I need a few people to help me out with tests, if you have Apropos installed it will give you a log file. I am trying to see which actor is giving oral in animations, so far my tests have concluded it is actor[0]

 

examples:

Kneeling BJ - Jonna was giving oral.

[0]: Jonna, female 

[1]: Player, female 

 

Arrok Lesbian - player was giving oral.

[0]: Player, female 

[1]: Jonna, female

 

I think the only exception is the Arrok 69 where Jonna was on top for the first part.

[0]: Jonna, female 

[1]: Player, female 

 

I need people to test this in multiple ways and situations to see if this is true. If anyone is interested I need to know :

* Female to female animations

* Which actor is giving oral (actor[0] or actor[1])

* Which animation it was

* If it was consensual 

 

If you have Apropos installed the log file will give you all the information you need. In game you can press ~ to see what the animation was called and which actor was [0] and [1].

 

 

 

[gooser]

Is it normal that I usually get more than one description of the orgasm? Sometimes I get only one, but most of the time ~5.

 

Thanks for the great mod.

No idea. That's a new one. Can you provide a log?

[chajapa]

I've had a couple instances where I got multiple messages, but I chalked it up to me changing animations while they were ongoing. 

 

Gooser,

My male PC is no longer deflowering virgins. I tried changing load order but that didn't seem to have any affect. Did something sneak back in? This was working before. Not sure if an update fixed it (pretty sure that's the case) or if I changed load order here before, but..... perpetual virgins unless I whore them out so an NPC un-virgins them.

[WaxenFigure]

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2. The file itself is only 32 KB large I just seem restricted somehow by the website not sure why

You can only upload certain known file extensions and the log file does not use a known extension.

 

It's still a text file, as a zip file it would be far smaller and therefore would not waste space though at the very small size you have the file could just be cut and pasted into a spoiler tag.

[gooser]

Please take the poll if you have time:

 

http://www.loverslab...ork-do-you-use/

[Earen]

 

But again, I'd rather not spend time tweaking this any further. Debug.Notification has been a regular PITA and I want to come up with something better.

 

Cool, was afraid you discovered some limitations that makes it impossible to implement such plugin

[chajapa]

Apologies for repeat. This may have gotten lost as part of an unrelated post.

 

Male PC no longer deflowering virgins. Tried high in load order and last in load order. 

SexLab 1.39b

Apropos 20140424

JContainers version as supplied with Apropos 20140424.

 

This was working. Not sure why that's no longer the case.

Should I uninstall/reinstall Apropos to make sure all the files are in the right place? Visual check appears as though everything is correct. *shrug*

 

OK, well, deactivate/reactivate and choosing to overwrite all files didn't fix it. Hmmmmm.... what did I fuck up this time?

 

[gooser]

Deflowering is directly part of wear and tear. There are problems and bugs in the current version so you are probably running into those.

[chajapa]

OK, I'll wait for the next one. The message plays about so-and-so feeling for the first time (male PC referring to the female PC he's with), but the WT state doesn't seem to update for that NPC. 

 

If she's deflowered by another NPC, it seems to work.

 

Just reporting... I can wait.

 

[gooser]

Wait, so the PC can't deflower the NPC, but another NPC can?

[chajapa]

Wait, so the PC can't deflower the NPC, but another NPC can?

 

Yup. And, obviously, this is only the male PC as the female PC doesn't break virgins.

[gooser]

Got an issue with the MCM, in the sense that it isn't really there. No idea what causes it, but in the MCM, Apropros shows up in the list of mods, and when I click on it, the backround image appears, and nothing else. No tabs, no lists, nothing.

I do NOT have wear and tear if that may be what's causing it, but again, I have no idea.

Any advice on how to fix?

 

Funny, been struggling myself with this, even after cleaning lately. I tend to thrash the hell out of my game saves...

 

The only way I've gotten to reappear is to execute via the console:

 

setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

 

Going back to game and waiting a few minutes. I think I waited up to 5 minutes before it showed up. But eventually I got the "... Menu(s) added" message.

[gooser]

I'm glad I'm not the only developer wanting to throw a hammer through the monitor:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/30694-mcms-ski-configbaseonversionupdate-sucks/

 

Ugh.

[Grimbold the unlovely]

 

Is it normal that I usually get more than one description of the orgasm? Sometimes I get only one, but most of the time ~5.

 

Thanks for the great mod.

 

 

I have sometimes got that too. But I like it. Who doesn't like multiple orgasms? I just see it as Apropos being in party mode.

 

[chajapa]

Gooser,

In MCM my Apropos is showing as the 14-23 version. I've insalled (and REINSTALLED) the 04-24 version. Tried both the full and the no descriptions one. 

 

Known issue? 

 

I upgraded to SexLab 1.54 and just noticed this in Apropos. For the record... Apropos seems just fine in SL 1.54

[gooser]

Gooser,

In MCM my Apropos is showing as the 14-23 version. I've insalled (and REINSTALLED) the 04-24 version. Tried both the full and the no descriptions one. 

 

Known issue? 

 

I upgraded to SexLab 1.54 and just noticed this in Apropos. For the record... Apropos seems just fine in SL 1.54

 

Yes, directly related to the crappy MCM OnVersionUpdate not firing (for me and other mod authors, for example SOS):

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/30694-mcms-ski-configbaseonversionupdate-sucks/