Stahlvormund101 Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Hey, awesome work here! Could you help me with a problem I have run into? I use apropos and can get the SlaveTat wear and tear textures (cuts, daedric cuts) when my Wear and Tear level is high, but the Tears and Sob textures wont appear although I enabled them in apropos. Also the Skintexture pack including the Cuts, Daedric Cuts, Tear and Sob do no appear in my MCM of SlaveTat. I am using an alternate texture for sperm on body to replace the SexLab vanilla ones and the SexLab Cum on Body bukkakke spell, and the Seductress Serana face applied via Racemenu. Does any of these interfer with the Tear and Sob face texture? These are the textures that are applied to the face corresponding to the level of abuse: 4 --> "Sob Tears\tears_1.dds" 5 --> "Sob Tears\tears_2.dds" 6 --> "Sob Tears\tears_3.dds" 7 --> "Sob Tears\sob_1.dds" 8 --> "Sob Tears\sob_2.dds" 9 --> "After Affects\face_battered.dds" If you can't see those available in Slavetats MCM then i'm not sure what's going on... Make sure the dds files are loaded in the correct folder (should be "textures\actors\character\slavetats\Sob Tears" and "textures\actors\character\slavetats\after effects"). Personally I have been using the sperm mod "SexLab Quite the Sperm Replacer 5 Ridiculous Edition" for a while without any issues. Forget what I just wrote, I got them in apropos. However, I can't get them to show up. 2 things to check: 1) The NIOverride.ini disables face overlays by default (whether from RaceMenu or NIOverride). This is due to a CTD caused when PC (or NPC) is beheaded in a kill move while having an overlay applied. To enable it, open the NIOverride.ini and find the setting bEnableFaceOverlays and set to 1. 2) Not enough face overlay slots. Default is set to 3. Remember that the overlays are used by all tattoo/overlay mods, so if you applied face tats in the RaceMenu, that reduces the number of overlays available to SlaveTats. You can increase that number of face tats in the same NIOverride.ini. Final thing to note, the overlays are layered, so tats applied to the first slot may get overwritten by tats applied to later slots (depends on size and transparency of tats. THANKS ALOT! That did the trick! When I got SlaveTats, it said in the requirements "Racemenu" (or NiOveride), and as it was an "or", I didnt get NetImmersive for my SKSE. Quickly loaded NetImmersive, checked the nioveride.ini, started Skyrim, and NOW the face tattoos appear in the selection for SlaveTat too! I am sure they will appear for apropos too. Will check that right away. Btw, I kept the default of face slots at 3, as I dont use Racemenu tattoos right now. Edit: YES! it works. Tears appear when Wear and Tear levels are high enough! Thanks alot again"
lapponia Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 seems like you forgot to add {CUMMING} to synonyms.txt? Otherwise, nice update and looking forward for more!
3Dmember Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Does anyone have a copy of the 2014 version of Apropos. The new version is not compatible with Estelles apropos utility. Does anyone have a copy of the 2014 version of Apropos? The new version is not compatible with Estelles apropos utility.
JustCaroAnon Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 seems like you forgot to add {CUMMING} to synonyms.txt? Otherwise, nice update and looking forward for more! Eh, if you're super patient, have a lot of time to kill and have a good text editor (or you have Apropos Edit) you could just set up a heap of your own synonyms and populate descriptions with them. There was a custom db in the sharing thread that had this, and they definitely worked.
bicobus Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Bug report If a female character is turned into a "transgender" by SexLab cumshot, apropos will detect that character as "male" and won't track wear and tear or show any description. The transgender option in SexLab cumshot is the only way I've found to force SexLab to not equip a strapon on "futa" characters (female with a schlong and a vagina, or males with vaginas?). I agree that this situation is a limitation of the current engine and how sexuality is interpreted. But hey, we're playing in a fantasy world right? The different animations run fine, with the proper tags (MF, FM, etc) and detected by apropos. But apropos seems to disable tracking on male player characters. I've uploaded the apropos.0.log that shows when my character is considered female, and when I used the transgender feature of Sexlab Cumshot. Could it be possible to either: Allow the player to enforce the desired gender to apropos. Follow the characters role per animation (giver, receiver) If the player character gets fisted, regardless of the gender, the tear should apply. apropos.0.log
gooser Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 Bug report If a female character is turned into a "transgender" by SexLab cumshot, apropos will detect that character as "male" and won't track wear and tear or show any description. The transgender option in SexLab cumshot is the only way I've found to force SexLab to not equip a strapon on "futa" characters (female with a schlong and a vagina, or males with vaginas?). I agree that this situation is a limitation of the current engine and how sexuality is interpreted. But hey, we're playing in a fantasy world right? The different animations run fine, with the proper tags (MF, FM, etc) and detected by apropos. But apropos seems to disable tracking on male player characters. I've uploaded the apropos.0.log that shows when my character is considered female, and when I used the transgender feature of Sexlab Cumshot. Could it be possible to either: Allow the player to enforce the desired gender to apropos. Follow the characters role per animation (giver, receiver) If the player character gets fisted, regardless of the gender, the tear should apply. Yes, generally W&T doesn't track male characters at all.
gooser Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 seems like you forgot to add {CUMMING} to synonyms.txt? Otherwise, nice update and looking forward for more! Doh! Not sure how that slipped through. THanks for catching,
bicobus Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Yes, generally W&T doesn't track male characters at all. Yeah, but that character isn't male. It is considered as male by sexlab to run the proper animations, she is however eligible for male or female position.
Daedric Prince of Lust Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Apropos for some reason isn't tracking my character even if I turn on the "Enable Apropos Wear and Tear" option. In the "Wear and Tear Actors" MCM tab, it says "Player is not currently tracked for wear and tear." NPCs ARE tracked normally, however. What am I doing wrong?
gooser Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 Apropos for some reason isn't tracking my character even if I turn on the "Enable Apropos Wear and Tear" option. In the "Wear and Tear Actors" MCM tab, it says "Player is not currently tracked for wear and tear." NPCs ARE tracked normally, however. What am I doing wrong? Hard to say, without some log files.
Nazzzgul666 Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Apropos for some reason isn't tracking my character even if I turn on the "Enable Apropos Wear and Tear" option. In the "Wear and Tear Actors" MCM tab, it says "Player is not currently tracked for wear and tear." NPCs ARE tracked normally, however. What am I doing wrong? Just to be sure: didn't try the new version yet, but in the old version this message appeared if there was no reason to it. So before you're tracked, you need to be raped.
gooser Posted October 11, 2016 Author Posted October 11, 2016 Apropos for some reason isn't tracking my character even if I turn on the "Enable Apropos Wear and Tear" option. In the "Wear and Tear Actors" MCM tab, it says "Player is not currently tracked for wear and tear." NPCs ARE tracked normally, however. What am I doing wrong? Just to be sure: didn't try the new version yet, but in the old version this message appeared if there was no reason to it. So before you're tracked, you need to be raped. Good point. I had assumed Nazzzgul666 knew the requirements for W&T.
JahReit Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Speaking of rape, has anyone made "real" rape comments for the female PC? I mean, "I'm being raped and I enjoy it" isn't a valid rape comment, hell, it isn't a rape comment at all. Let a female go to court accusing a man of rape and saying how much she enjoyed it and wanted the other men to join in would get her laughed out of court and possibly arrested for stupidity: "Did you say STOP!" "Sort of. I said don't stop." "Did you beg or plead?" "Yes, I begged and pleaded for him to fuck me harder and for others to join in." Really, who thought that was rape? I really appreciate apropos, but would like for my female PC to make sensible comments while being raped. And no, I can't make that set, was hoping someone else already had and would share - and give simple instructions how to add it to the mod comments.
MsOtaku Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Hi guys, I installed the latest version of Apropos and followed the instructions for updating and the MCM menu still shows the older version. I tried again, even on a new character and still, nothing. I'm attaching a log, not sure if it's the right one but, it does have my new character's name in it so I'm only going to assume. This log does say that I am using the most current version of Apropos however, as I've mentioned, the MCM menu shows a different version. My only fear is that I might have problems down the road and would hate to start fresh after progressing further into the game. ModOrganizer_16_10_11_17_04.log
gooser Posted October 12, 2016 Author Posted October 12, 2016 Hi guys, I installed the latest version of Apropos and followed the instructions for updating and the MCM menu still shows the older version. I tried again, even on a new character and still, nothing. I'm attaching a log, not sure if it's the right one but, it does have my new character's name in it so I'm only going to assume. This log does say that I am using the most current version of Apropos however, as I've mentioned, the MCM menu shows a different version. My only fear is that I might have problems down the road and would hate to start fresh after progressing further into the game. Please enable Papyrus logging and enable Trace level debugging inside Apropos MCM and produce two log files: Papyrus0.log Apropos0.log The instructions are in the OP.
MsOtaku Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Hi guys, I installed the latest version of Apropos and followed the instructions for updating and the MCM menu still shows the older version. I tried again, even on a new character and still, nothing. I'm attaching a log, not sure if it's the right one but, it does have my new character's name in it so I'm only going to assume. This log does say that I am using the most current version of Apropos however, as I've mentioned, the MCM menu shows a different version. My only fear is that I might have problems down the road and would hate to start fresh after progressing further into the game. Please enable Papyrus logging and enable Trace level debugging inside Apropos MCM and produce two log files: Papyrus0.log Apropos0.log The instructions are in the OP. Here ya go. apropos.0.log Papyrus.0.log
gooser Posted October 12, 2016 Author Posted October 12, 2016 Hi guys, I installed the latest version of Apropos and followed the instructions for updating and the MCM menu still shows the older version. I tried again, even on a new character and still, nothing. I'm attaching a log, not sure if it's the right one but, it does have my new character's name in it so I'm only going to assume. This log does say that I am using the most current version of Apropos however, as I've mentioned, the MCM menu shows a different version. My only fear is that I might have problems down the road and would hate to start fresh after progressing further into the game. Please enable Papyrus logging and enable Trace level debugging inside Apropos MCM and produce two log files: Papyrus0.log Apropos0.log The instructions are in the OP. Here ya go. looks like you are using the latest version. "TokenNames : {ACTIVE},{ASS},{BEAST},{BITCH},{BOOBS},{BUGCOCK},{COCK},{CREAM},{CUMMING},{CUM},{DEAD},{FAROUSAL},{FUCKING},{FUCKS},{FUCK},{HEAVING},{HUGE},{JUICY},{MAROUSAL},{MOUTH},{PENIS},{PRIMARY},{PUSSY},{READINESS},{SALTY},{SCUM},{SLIMY},{SLOPPY},{SOLID},{STRAPON},{SWEARING},{TASTY},{THICK},{VILE},{WHORE},{WTORAL}" Tokens {CUMMING}, {SCUM}, and {SWEARING} are all new. Why do you think its not up to date? MCM Version?
MsOtaku Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 looks like you are using the latest version. "TokenNames : {ACTIVE},{ASS},{BEAST},{BITCH},{BOOBS},{BUGCOCK},{COCK},{CREAM},{CUMMING},{CUM},{DEAD},{FAROUSAL},{FUCKING},{FUCKS},{FUCK},{HEAVING},{HUGE},{JUICY},{MAROUSAL},{MOUTH},{PENIS},{PRIMARY},{PUSSY},{READINESS},{SALTY},{SCUM},{SLIMY},{SLOPPY},{SOLID},{STRAPON},{SWEARING},{TASTY},{THICK},{VILE},{WHORE},{WTORAL}" Tokens {CUMMING}, {SCUM}, and {SWEARING} are all new. Why do you think its not up to date? MCM Version? Yeah, that was my concern since the MCM still says Version: 20161007 So, if it doesn't matter what the MCM says then I'm good to go?
MsOtaku Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 One more question: I'm trying to figure out the whole Wear and Tear texture thing. It says on the OP that Slave Tats are needed and "- Applies a VERY SPECIFIC set of textures!!! These textures are provided in the download area for Apropos, "Apropos_Abuse_Slavetats_Textures.7z"." I looked for that download and couldn't find it anywhere. I found the skin textures link posted: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/835-skintextures/ but, not the above mentioned file in that download section either. I did a Google search for "Apropos_Abuse_Slavetats_.7z and found this: http://www.goodmods.com/Skyrim/adult/ I'm not sure if just installing the base file for Slave Tats will work and show the wear and tear markings.
gooser Posted October 13, 2016 Author Posted October 13, 2016 looks like you are using the latest version. "TokenNames : {ACTIVE},{ASS},{BEAST},{BITCH},{BOOBS},{BUGCOCK},{COCK},{CREAM},{CUMMING},{CUM},{DEAD},{FAROUSAL},{FUCKING},{FUCKS},{FUCK},{HEAVING},{HUGE},{JUICY},{MAROUSAL},{MOUTH},{PENIS},{PRIMARY},{PUSSY},{READINESS},{SALTY},{SCUM},{SLIMY},{SLOPPY},{SOLID},{STRAPON},{SWEARING},{TASTY},{THICK},{VILE},{WHORE},{WTORAL}" Tokens {CUMMING}, {SCUM}, and {SWEARING} are all new. Why do you think its not up to date? MCM Version? Yeah, that was my concern since the MCM still says Version: 20161007 So, if it doesn't matter what the MCM says then I'm good to go? Yeah, my fault. I didn't bump the MCM number because there were no code changes - just new database. In the past I have bumped that when actual program changes were made. Sorry. One more question: I'm trying to figure out the whole Wear and Tear texture thing. It says on the OP that Slave Tats are needed and "- Applies a VERY SPECIFIC set of textures!!! These textures are provided in the download area for Apropos, "Apropos_Abuse_Slavetats_Textures.7z"." I looked for that download and couldn't find it anywhere. I found the skin textures link posted: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/835-skintextures/ but, not the above mentioned file in that download section either. I did a Google search for "Apropos_Abuse_Slavetats_.7z and found this: http://www.goodmods.com/Skyrim/adult/ I'm not sure if just installing the base file for Slave Tats will work and show the wear and tear markings. The most recent 10/07 (or 10/10) release contains the textures already. I have removed the separate downloads.
MsOtaku Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 looks like you are using the latest version. "TokenNames : {ACTIVE},{ASS},{BEAST},{BITCH},{BOOBS},{BUGCOCK},{COCK},{CREAM},{CUMMING},{CUM},{DEAD},{FAROUSAL},{FUCKING},{FUCKS},{FUCK},{HEAVING},{HUGE},{JUICY},{MAROUSAL},{MOUTH},{PENIS},{PRIMARY},{PUSSY},{READINESS},{SALTY},{SCUM},{SLIMY},{SLOPPY},{SOLID},{STRAPON},{SWEARING},{TASTY},{THICK},{VILE},{WHORE},{WTORAL}" Tokens {CUMMING}, {SCUM}, and {SWEARING} are all new. Why do you think its not up to date? MCM Version? Yeah, that was my concern since the MCM still says Version: 20161007 So, if it doesn't matter what the MCM says then I'm good to go? Yeah, my fault. I didn't bump the MCM number because there were no code changes - just new database. In the past I have bumped that when actual program changes were made. Sorry. One more question: I'm trying to figure out the whole Wear and Tear texture thing. It says on the OP that Slave Tats are needed and "- Applies a VERY SPECIFIC set of textures!!! These textures are provided in the download area for Apropos, "Apropos_Abuse_Slavetats_Textures.7z"." I looked for that download and couldn't find it anywhere. I found the skin textures link posted: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/835-skintextures/ but, not the above mentioned file in that download section either. I did a Google search for "Apropos_Abuse_Slavetats_.7z and found this: http://www.goodmods.com/Skyrim/adult/ I'm not sure if just installing the base file for Slave Tats will work and show the wear and tear markings. The most recent 10/07 (or 10/10) release contains the textures already. I have removed the separate downloads. Thank you very much for all the info! Much appreciated!
sen4mi Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 I am getting apropos messages that refer to some male partner when my character is doing solo animations (involving a health potion, of all things - I have not yet figured out which mod is triggering them...) so, anyways, i guess I really admire the muscles on this guy with a null name who happens to look like a health potion. ... or ... something?
chajapa Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Gooser, is female/female working in this update? I haven't tested yet.
gooser Posted October 13, 2016 Author Posted October 13, 2016 Gooser, is female/female working in this update? I haven't tested yet. Unfortunately, nothing has changed wrt. MM or FF in this latest release.
orxx Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 Speaking of rape, has anyone made "real" rape comments for the female PC? I mean, "I'm being raped and I enjoy it" isn't a valid rape comment, hell, it isn't a rape comment at all. I had made a version of the DB for this a while ago. I just updated it to include everything from the 20161010 release. The main differences from the 20161010 DB are: - Updated the rape sections to remove or reword anything where the female enjoys it, and added a few replacements. - Removed wear and tear text where the female was enjoying it - A few minor typo and grammar fixes - This also includes a bunch of additions from a database that Grimbold the unlovely made and had uploaded several months ago. Pretty much any new messages that aren't in the rape sections, and a lot of the ones in the rape sections, are originally his, not mine. (Hopefully he doesn't mind me including them here.) Apropos_Resistant_DB_20161015.7z
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