Simple Slavery

*jfraser* · January 24, 2016

Ravenbeak isn't showing up for me. I have no patches installed. Just installed the base ravenbeak file from the modpage and it is not recognizing it.

This is on a fresh game.

do you have the follower patch?

No patches at all.

i guess "patches" is the wrong word. Do you have the Follower Addon by Shane4244?

Deathmaw · January 24, 2016

Ravenbeak isn't showing up for me. I have no patches installed. Just installed the base ravenbeak file from the modpage and it is not recognizing it.

This is on a fresh game.

do you have the follower patch?

No patches at all.

i guess "patches" is the wrong word. Do you have the Follower Addon by Shane4244?

Nope is it required?

mentalmike · January 24, 2016

so do i have to disable defeat or submit before attempting to fight bandits?

and is death alternative a hard requirement?

*jfraser* · January 24, 2016

Ravenbeak isn't showing up for me. I have no patches installed. Just installed the base ravenbeak file from the modpage and it is not recognizing it.

This is on a fresh game.

do you have the follower patch?

No patches at all.

i guess "patches" is the wrong word. Do you have the Follower Addon by Shane4244?

Nope is it required?

no, but that was my theory of what's wrong with the connection - i had it on one computer and had the same problem as you. i didn't have it on the other and it worked. back to the drawing board.

so do i have to disable defeat or submit before attempting to fight bandits?

and is death alternative a hard requirement?

DA is not a hard requirement but you will not be able to access SS without it unless you use one of the other mods in the description to get to it. neither defeat nor submit will be a problem - they happen on knockdown, SS triggers on blackout. that's assuming you have DA. I'm trying to get the authors of both to add SS as an outcome but neither hang around here much anymore.

hexenhaus · January 24, 2016

For a time Raven Beak Prison was available to Simple Slavery with the "patch", but after installing/activating more mods it was greyed out again - in the same playthrough. So the problem might not be direct in Raven Beak Prison or SS but with another mod.

Another thing i found was that the parasite from Cursed Loot gets removed when entering the auction which causes the removal quest to break. So either the quest should be completed or the parasite should be respected in any way.

barak43 · January 24, 2016

Ravenbeak isn't showing up for me. I have no patches installed. Just installed the base ravenbeak file from the modpage and it is not recognizing it.

This is on a fresh game.

do you have the follower patch?

No patches at all.

i guess "patches" is the wrong word. Do you have the Follower Addon by Shane4244?

Nope is it required?

no, but that was my theory of what's wrong with the connection - i had it on one computer and had the same problem as you. i didn't have it on the other and it worked. back to the drawing board.

so do i have to disable defeat or submit before attempting to fight bandits?

and is death alternative a hard requirement?

DA is not a hard requirement but you will not be able to access SS without it unless you use one of the other mods in the description to get to it. neither defeat nor submit will be a problem - they happen on knockdown, SS triggers on blackout. that's assuming you have DA. I'm trying to get the authors of both to add SS as an outcome but neither hang around here much anymore.

i know Goubo (the Defeat author) is planning a big update soon, so he's busy. maybe it'll be easier to contact him after that ?

CliftonJD · January 24, 2016

Ravenbeak isn't showing up for me. I have no patches installed. Just installed the base ravenbeak file from the modpage and it is not recognizing it.

This is on a fresh game.

do you have the follower patch?

No patches at all.

i guess "patches" is the wrong word. Do you have the Follower Addon by Shane4244?

Nope is it required?

no, but that was my theory of what's wrong with the connection - i had it on one computer and had the same problem as you. i didn't have it on the other and it worked. back to the drawing board.

so do i have to disable defeat or submit before attempting to fight bandits?

and is death alternative a hard requirement?

DA is not a hard requirement but you will not be able to access SS without it unless you use one of the other mods in the description to get to it. neither defeat nor submit will be a problem - they happen on knockdown, SS triggers on blackout. that's assuming you have DA. I'm trying to get the authors of both to add SS as an outcome but neither hang around here much anymore.

first place i'd start looking based on that theory is their follower mods, but it could also be a load order issue as well....

(personally I haven't tried either way, i don't see the appeal to raven)

Ravenbeak isn't showing up for me. I have no patches installed. Just installed the base ravenbeak file from the modpage and it is not recognizing it.

This is on a fresh game.

do you have the follower patch?

No patches at all.

i guess "patches" is the wrong word. Do you have the Follower Addon by Shane4244?

Nope is it required?

post your load order

CliftonJD · January 24, 2016

suggestion/idea for possible outcomes:

things in the dark

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2152-things-in-the-dark-very-alpha-project/

haunted house

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2355-haunted-house/

parruyo · January 24, 2016

This work with enslaved npc's?

Verstort · January 25, 2016

This work with enslaved npc's?

This is for player only currently, no way to sell NPC slaves to or from player possession.

parruyo · January 25, 2016

This work with enslaved npc's?

This is for player only currently, no way to sell NPC slaves to or from player possession.

Ok, thank you.

Verstort · January 25, 2016

jraser, does the maria eden defeat event work for you?

I'm getting nothing, no error from the handle failing, no debug from Maria.

Edit: Oh, you haven't updated at all, you're still looking for quest MariaEdensSlave which no longer exists...

*jfraser* · January 25, 2016

jraser, does the maria eden defeat event work for you?

I'm getting nothing, no error from the handle failing, no debug from Maria.

Edit: Oh, you haven't updated at all, you're still looking for quest MariaEdensSlave which no longer exists...

It doesn't? Has there been an update recently?

Verstort · January 25, 2016

2.0 alpha has English now, so I decided to download it and see if anything was working. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/51967-maria-eden-20-public-alpha-test/

I mean the whoring aspect isn't really working, but compatibility with DEC was the focus anyway.

Edit: and I meant 2.0, somehow forgot to mention that in my post.

*jfraser* · January 25, 2016

2.0 alpha has English now, so I decided to download it and see if anything was working. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/51967-maria-eden-20-public-alpha-test/

I mean the whoring aspect isn't really working, but compatibility with DEC was the focus anyway.

Edit: and I meant 2.0, somehow forgot to mention that in my post.

okay, yeah, me 2.0 is a complete rewrite. SS will not be compatible at this time.

Verstort · January 25, 2016

2.0 alpha has English now, so I decided to download it and see if anything was working. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/51967-maria-eden-20-public-alpha-test/

I mean the whoring aspect isn't really working, but compatibility with DEC was the focus anyway.

Edit: and I meant 2.0, somehow forgot to mention that in my post.

okay, yeah, me 2.0 is a complete rewrite. SS will not be compatible at this time.

The implementation is the same though, or so I thought.

Both should provide access to the same modevents, he fixed his 2.0 version to use the same old mod events as 1.X, and It looks like the version 4.331 already uses one of them MariaEdenPlayerDefeatedBy or whatever (can't look at the code right now)

16.01.2016 11:05

Defeat is back - if you enter the surrender position while being hit by an enemy you are sent instantly to the slave auction (HouseOfBurden has to be installed)

Slavery ModEvents are now bound to Pimp - third party mods (eg. simple slavery) send the player into forced whoring now.

I came here to ask you if it was working for you before realizing that SS won't even try to use it because the quest that you use for detecting that ME is installed no longer exists. MariaSlaveQuest was replaced with Maria000 or something, so you need to look for a different quest to detect 2.0.

Anyway, when you get around to fixing the quest, so ME is detecable, let me know if the event is actually working, which is what I came here for. I'm getting nothing on my end. The player enslaved by mod event is working, just not the defeat by, which is odd. I wasn't sure if I was missing something or if it was broken. Figured I would ask you in the case you were working on it on an unreleased version before asking zaira.

*slvsaris* · January 26, 2016

Keep an eye on this mod:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72684/?

Would be an interesting option for Simple Slavery.

*jfraser* · January 26, 2016

Keep an eye on this mod:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72684/?

Would be an interesting option for Simple Slavery.

eek. Unlikely they would let me connect.

2.0 alpha has English now, so I decided to download it and see if anything was working. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/51967-maria-eden-20-public-alpha-test/

I mean the whoring aspect isn't really working, but compatibility with DEC was the focus anyway.

Edit: and I meant 2.0, somehow forgot to mention that in my post.

okay, yeah, me 2.0 is a complete rewrite. SS will not be compatible at this time.

The implementation is the same though, or so I thought.

Both should provide access to the same modevents, he fixed his 2.0 version to use the same old mod events as 1.X, and It looks like the version 4.331 already uses one of them MariaEdenPlayerDefeatedBy or whatever (can't look at the code right now)

16.01.2016 11:05

Defeat is back - if you enter the surrender position while being hit by an enemy you are sent instantly to the slave auction (HouseOfBurden has to be installed)

Slavery ModEvents are now bound to Pimp - third party mods (eg. simple slavery) send the player into forced whoring now.

I came here to ask you if it was working for you before realizing that SS won't even try to use it because the quest that you use for detecting that ME is installed no longer exists. MariaSlaveQuest was replaced with Maria000 or something, so you need to look for a different quest to detect 2.0.

Anyway, when you get around to fixing the quest, so ME is detecable, let me know if the event is actually working, which is what I came here for. I'm getting nothing on my end. The player enslaved by mod event is working, just not the defeat by, which is odd. I wasn't sure if I was missing something or if it was broken. Figured I would ask you in the case you were working on it on an unreleased version before asking zaira.

when you brought it up, it was the first I heard of it. I'll have to do some research

2.0 alpha has English now, so I decided to download it and see if anything was working. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/51967-maria-eden-20-public-alpha-test/

I mean the whoring aspect isn't really working, but compatibility with DEC was the focus anyway.

Edit: and I meant 2.0, somehow forgot to mention that in my post.

okay, yeah, me 2.0 is a complete rewrite. SS will not be compatible at this time.

The implementation is the same though, or so I thought.

Both should provide access to the same modevents, he fixed his 2.0 version to use the same old mod events as 1.X, and It looks like the version 4.331 already uses one of them MariaEdenPlayerDefeatedBy or whatever (can't look at the code right now)

16.01.2016 11:05

Defeat is back - if you enter the surrender position while being hit by an enemy you are sent instantly to the slave auction (HouseOfBurden has to be installed)

Slavery ModEvents are now bound to Pimp - third party mods (eg. simple slavery) send the player into forced whoring now.

I came here to ask you if it was working for you before realizing that SS won't even try to use it because the quest that you use for detecting that ME is installed no longer exists. MariaSlaveQuest was replaced with Maria000 or something, so you need to look for a different quest to detect 2.0.

Anyway, when you get around to fixing the quest, so ME is detecable, let me know if the event is actually working, which is what I came here for. I'm getting nothing on my end. The player enslaved by mod event is working, just not the defeat by, which is odd. I wasn't sure if I was missing something or if it was broken. Figured I would ask you in the case you were working on it on an unreleased version before asking zaira.

when you brought it up, it was the first I heard of it. I'll have to do some research

*jfraser* · January 26, 2016

Sneak peek into the future of SS:

I am working with m.skynet to bring his framework (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/57123-devious-attributes/?do=findComment&comment=1446600) into SS. Picture customized auctions based on how defiant or submissive you are. Owners will choose you based on their needs in a slave, not randomly.

CliftonJD · January 26, 2016

Sneak peek into the future of SS:

I am working with m.skynet to bring his framework (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/57123-devious-attributes/?do=findComment&comment=1446600) into SS. Picture customized auctions based on how defiant or submissive you are. Owners will choose you based on their needs in a slave, not randomly.

...oh, also should use that as basis for the new slave value to revamp it again, the older values were closer to paradise halls versus the current values the slave is worth about the same as an axe

JahReit · January 26, 2016

Just checked the link. I hope this will be as great as it looks to be.

*jfraser* · January 26, 2016

Sneak peek into the future of SS:

I am working with m.skynet to bring his framework (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/57123-devious-attributes/?do=findComment&comment=1446600) into SS. Picture customized auctions based on how defiant or submissive you are. Owners will choose you based on their needs in a slave, not randomly.

...oh, also should use that as basis for the new slave value to revamp it again, the older values were closer to paradise halls versus the current values the slave is worth about the same as an axe

Well, we're trying to get a standardized slavery system across the major LL slavery mods, and many expressed the opinion that slaves should be much cheaper. That's why the prices came down.

*Content Consumer* · January 26, 2016

... many expressed the opinion that slaves should be much cheaper. That's why the prices came down.

Just don't let the prices fall too far, those poor slave drivers have it pretty tough in this economy.

CliftonJD · January 27, 2016

Sneak peek into the future of SS:

I am working with m.skynet to bring his framework (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/57123-devious-attributes/?do=findComment&comment=1446600) into SS. Picture customized auctions based on how defiant or submissive you are. Owners will choose you based on their needs in a slave, not randomly.

...oh, also should use that as basis for the new slave value to revamp it again, the older values were closer to paradise halls versus the current values the slave is worth about the same as an axe

Well, we're trying to get a standardized slavery system across the major LL slavery mods, and many expressed the opinion that slaves should be much cheaper. That's why the prices came down.

i'll understand the idea for building a standard system for all the mods, but we need to bring back to those with that concern that:

if slaves were sold at these prices everybody could afford their own slaves and not just the rich...the blacksmith in whiterun wouldn't be struggling to make supplies for the soldiers when asked she'd have her own slaves to do it for her...

DonQuiWho · January 27, 2016

Sneak peek into the future of SS:

I am working with m.skynet to bring his framework (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/57123-devious-attributes/?do=findComment&comment=1446600) into SS. Picture customized auctions based on how defiant or submissive you are. Owners will choose you based on their needs in a slave, not randomly.

...oh, also should use that as basis for the new slave value to revamp it again, the older values were closer to paradise halls versus the current values the slave is worth about the same as an axe

Well, we're trying to get a standardized slavery system across the major LL slavery mods, and many expressed the opinion that slaves should be much cheaper. That's why the prices came down.

i'll understand the idea for building a standard system for all the mods, but we need to bring back to those with that concern that:

if slaves were sold at these prices everybody could afford their own slaves and not just the rich...the blacksmith in whiterun wouldn't be struggling to make supplies for the soldiers when asked she'd have her own slaves to do it for her...

Low prices are certainly not a good thing. The effort put into training needs to be worthwhile! There needs to be some reason for the lazier Nord wankers to stop doing what their doing and go out to do an honest day's work

And the better trained, the higher the value too

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