gaggedgirl123 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 I hope everyone here knows this is ALL fantasy. If they don't I'd hope someone would call the "boys in white" to come get them. But, I hope none of us, in real life, endorse murder, thief, breaking & entering or any of the other things our fictional characters do. Just having fun, don't take offense Lol I think most people doing it in games actually do it because doing it in real woudn't be a great idea. Otherwise I'd be the first to go walking the back streets of New York yelling at rapists to keep me tied up in their basement... haha
JahReit Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 I hope everyone here knows this is ALL fantasy. If they don't I'd hope someone would call the "boys in white" to come get them. But, I hope none of us, in real life, endorse murder, thief, breaking & entering or any of the other things our fictional characters do. Just having fun, don't take offense Lol I think most people doing it in games actually do it because doing it in real woudn't be a great idea. Otherwise I'd be the first to go walking the back streets of New York yelling at rapists to keep me tied up in their basement... haha Yep, this is where we can live our fantasies vicariously, sort of like soap operas. But I'd have to hang myself rather than watch those. Give me a good rape, murder, enslave/enslaved, no holes barred game any day. I suppose most people have real life fantasies but would be appalled if they actually witnessed or were the victim of the same. But I knew this one chick...er, never mind.
xboronx Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 For some reason monsters are all scary why not add to the list fairies. =========================== Get captured by -fairies =========================== So it would be more cheerful ... Hey, fairies can be cruel too. Just read some of the bondage fairies mangas. Not nice what they do with those poor insects or with each other . I hope everyone here knows this is ALL fantasy. If they don't I'd hope someone would call the "boys in white" to come get them. But, I hope none of us, in real life, endorse murder, thief, breaking & entering or any of the other things our fictional characters do. Just having fun, don't take offense I thought in this special suggestion an additional warning wouldn't hurt, but yeah, damn political correctness. But even as a fantasy i felt a little uncomfortable basically suggesting to include an extermination camp compared to which a gulag would almost seem like a holiday hotel. I think both stormcloaks and imperials want to prove their point, more than kill the other side. But I could make it fit in with the Thalmor. Northwatch keep is so severely underused now... Would be awesome. Maybe it should only be done secretly by an extremely insane Thalmor subgroup. While the Thalmor do not officially talk about it they at least tolerate it. If it is limited to Thalos-Worshippers and Stormcloaks it would be quite lorefriendly too. Though i like the idea to somehow include a faction/group that would be insane enough to just want to annilihate for the sake of annilihation even more.
JahReit Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 political correctness? isn't that the new term for hypocritical?
Kyubi Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Yep, this is where we can live our fantasies vicariously, sort of like soap operas. But I'd have to hang myself rather than watch those. Give me a good rape, murder, enslave/enslaved, no holes barred game any day. I suppose most people have real life fantasies but would be appalled if they actually witnessed or were the victim of the same. But I knew this one chick...er, never mind. I agree with you guys that most of this is fantasy - but many situations are easily "reproducible" in real life either. Of course I only download mods from LL that meet my taste and fetishes. This revolves mainly around the dom/sub genre, slavery, bondage and all that. While in games like Skyrim you can put yourself into situations you'd probably (and hopefully) never be in regarding your real life and thus play around with imagination and fetish, you can only do that to a certain extend in reality. However, many of the things that get featured by the mods I download are things that I have in real life with my boyfriend as well, the entire "getting dominated" stuff (including sexual slavery, getting restrained by ties and shackles). But outside of the bedroom we are just normal boyfriend and girlfriend with a loving and caring relationship. What I wanted to say with this is: It's perfectly normal and fine to live these fetishes as long as they are consensual and nothing illegal (for example paedophilia, as children aren't able to acknowledge abuse and generally are in an inferior situation, therefore they lack the ability to decide for themselves in this regard). Many of the mods here - especially the BDSM stuff - depict situations of real life, not the other way around. And saying that these are just fantasies that nobody would actually do or like to see in real life is a really bad excuse in my opinion. Somebody who has a fetish for rape would probably do it and get heavily turned on if he (or she) had the possibility to do that in real life. The only thing that keeps him or her down is the inevitable consequence of doing something that is against the law. But I don't really get why anybody here in a forum like LL feels the urge to justify their fetish anyway. That said, we should probably get back to the topic of HID suggestions.
TDA Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 For some reason monsters are all scary why not add to the list fairies. =========================== Get captured by -fairies =========================== So it would be more cheerful ... Hey, fairies can be cruel too. Just read some of the bondage fairies mangas. Not nice what they do with those poor insects or with each other . I do not read these - care health ...
JahReit Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 My computer is still occupied so I will continue the off-topic and try to make it a little more on-topic. Fantasy: In real life, (wait, which one is rl again?), many of the things we have been discussing the last few posts are very doable, have been and still are being done. Some innocuous, like kubi's post, (good of you to share. care to be more specific? just kidding), and some not quite so. In rl wolves don't stop and say, "hey, I just have to have some of that!", they eat you. Same with giant spiders. They don't want to have sex, they want a meal. So here is where I get back to the original purpose; bad ending possibilities - see above. Yeah I know, been discussed, but I'm waiting on a program to finish so I'm guilty of redundant verbosity and superfluous proliferation.
magnusx Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 I would like to see endings like the new tombrider where a wolf savagely bites u, i mean somthing like this, just fall to ground without "action" i feel it boring http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-w-43kTREY
gaggedgirl123 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 I would love to get new animation in, but I can't animate to save my life
JahReit Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 I would like to see endings like the new tombrider where a wolf savagely bites u, i mean somthing like this, just fall to ground without "action" i feel it boring http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-w-43kTREY I would go one step farther. I would like to see a wolf pack continue tearing the flesh from the dead/dying PC before the fade to black reload. Just a wish.
xboronx Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 I agree with you guys that most of this is fantasy - but many situations are easily "reproducible" in real life either. Of course I only download mods from LL that meet my taste and fetishes. This revolves mainly around the dom/sub genre, slavery, bondage and all that. While in games like Skyrim you can put yourself into situations you'd probably (and hopefully) never be in regarding your real life and thus play around with imagination and fetish, you can only do that to a certain extend in reality. However, many of the things that get featured by the mods I download are things that I have in real life with my boyfriend as well, the entire "getting dominated" stuff (including sexual slavery, getting restrained by ties and shackles). But outside of the bedroom we are just normal boyfriend and girlfriend with a loving and caring relationship. What I wanted to say with this is: It's perfectly normal and fine to live these fetishes as long as they are consensual and nothing illegal (for example paedophilia, as children aren't able to acknowledge abuse and generally are in an inferior situation, therefore they lack the ability to decide for themselves in this regard). Many of the mods here - especially the BDSM stuff - depict situations of real life, not the other way around. I fully agree, as long as it is consensual and both (or all if done in group) have fun it is fine. And saying that these are just fantasies that nobody would actually do or like to see in real life is a really bad excuse in my opinion. Somebody who has a fetish for rape would probably do it and get heavily turned on if he (or she) had the possibility to do that in real life. The only thing that keeps him or her down is the inevitable consequence of doing something that is against the law. But I don't really get why anybody here in a forum like LL feels the urge to justify their fetish anyway. That said, we should probably get back to the topic of HID suggestions. Guess i have to blame it on being german so in this special fetish case i felt some explanations are necessary. But i still love the idea of combining the worst parts of a gulag, concentration camp and extermination camp and bringing it to a new level of perversity. So i expand my idea, a 100% extermination camp would be a bit boring because eventually you have exterminated everyone, then you have nobody left for your darker entertainment pleasures. The ultimate goal would be to make the camp for the inhabitants as close to hell as possible and have a constant supply of people who can be killed for entertainment. So some general prison rules: 1. If possible every prisoner is used for breeding. Female prisoners preferably for children to keep a slave population, male prisoners for beast breeding. 2. Prisoners usually get only scat, piss, cum, the corpses of their dead inmates or other disgusting stuff as for food and drink. 3. The guards are ordered to always keep the prisoners in the maximum possible discomfort in any ways they wish, but they should avoid too severe permanent harm. 4. Important thalmor guests may and will do anything. 5. Any form of uprising is brutally punished, usually the revolters get slowly killed in a horrid way. I'm not too fit with necromancer lore in the elder scrolls, would it be easily possible to ressurect recently killed dead? Then the prison could be made even more hardcore and they could simply kill and revive the poor prisoners frequently........
gaggedgirl123 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Posted January 8, 2014 I fully agree, as long as it is consensual and both (or all if done in group) have fun it is fine. Yes, that's exactly how I think too. Though I know some people don't like others "having fun" in more erm... "creative" ways. And saying that these are just fantasies that nobody would actually do or like to see in real life is a really bad excuse in my opinion. Somebody who has a fetish for rape would probably do it and get heavily turned on if he (or she) had the possibility to do that in real life. The only thing that keeps him or her down is the inevitable consequence of doing something that is against the law. But I don't really get why anybody here in a forum like LL feels the urge to justify their fetish anyway. That said, we should probably get back to the topic of HID suggestions. Guess i have to blame it on being german so in this special fetish case i felt some explanations are necessary. But i still love the idea of combining the worst parts of a gulag, concentration camp and extermination camp and bringing it to a new level of perversity. So i expand my idea, a 100% extermination camp would be a bit boring because eventually you have exterminated everyone, then you have nobody left for your darker entertainment pleasures. The ultimate goal would be to make the camp for the inhabitants as close to hell as possible and have a constant supply of people who can be killed for entertainment. So some general prison rules: 1. If possible every prisoner is used for breeding. Female prisoners preferably for children to keep a slave population, male prisoners for beast breeding. 2. Prisoners usually get only scat, piss, cum, the corpses of their dead inmates or other disgusting stuff as for food and drink. 3. The guards are ordered to always keep the prisoners in the maximum possible discomfort in any ways they wish, but they should avoid too severe permanent harm. 4. Important thalmor guests may and will do anything. 5. Any form of uprising is brutally punished, usually the revolters get slowly killed in a horrid way. I'm not too fit with necromancer lore in the elder scrolls, would it be easily possible to ressurect recently killed dead? Then the prison could be made even more hardcore and they could simply kill and revive the poor prisoners frequently........ That's a huge undertaking, and I wouldn't want to agree to anything this big unless I knew I could do it. So for now, I'll just put this idea to the side, but not completely forget about it (oh BTW, the "slavemaster" encounter I have planned for 1.00 does have quite its share of cruelness. And from the scale of the "dungeon", it might end up feeling like a big prison (and definitely not to Skyrim scale). I'm just still trying to decide whether I make it a part of the actual game world, replace an existing place, and disconnect in completely. I don't want to put it underground, as there's some stuff I have planned that really requires a tall tower out in the open... )
banshe Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Not sure if its been discussed, but I always thought there should have been a 'Possessed' 'Bad ending' for the Potema's quests. (since there's two of them). Personally I play a Female Breton Necromancer, so yeah, there's that. I guess it could either be a game over ending, or it could lead to the player playing a possessed character? Not sure how the later would work out. Anyway just wanted to get that out there.
gaggedgirl123 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Posted January 8, 2014 Well technically, the original game assumes that when you die in Potema's crypt, you get revived afterwards. Just look at the amount of times you get soul trapped in there. Still, I do believe I should "extend" this part, and even I can't remember if I said it before lol. But that's one thing you CAN count on seeing
Ashra XIII Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Yeah the Potema quest was definitely one of those 'missed opportunity quests we talked about in the early pages of this thread. I would have *loved* the possibility of getting defeated and raised by Potema, then forced to do her bidding until I was able to find a way to escape.
gaggedgirl123 Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 Yeah the Potema quest was definitely one of those 'missed opportunity quests we talked about in the early pages of this thread. I would have *loved* the possibility of getting defeated and raised by Potema, then forced to do her bidding until I was able to find a way to escape. Not to mention kinda being her forced lover, after all she does talk as if she'd make you her queen (and then you read the books and realize just how manipulative she is haha)
bleeb Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 oh wow! amazing ideas, I've been itching for a mod like this for quite a while, especially the spider chain there. I'm eager to try this out.
calranthe Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 This all sounds amazing and would definetly go on my must have in game mods
magnusx Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 I fully agree, as long as it is consensual and both (or all if done in group) have fun it is fine. Yes, that's exactly how I think too. Though I know some people don't like others "having fun" in more erm... "creative" ways. And saying that these are just fantasies that nobody would actually do or like to see in real life is a really bad excuse in my opinion. Somebody who has a fetish for rape would probably do it and get heavily turned on if he (or she) had the possibility to do that in real life. The only thing that keeps him or her down is the inevitable consequence of doing something that is against the law. But I don't really get why anybody here in a forum like LL feels the urge to justify their fetish anyway. That said, we should probably get back to the topic of HID suggestions. Guess i have to blame it on being german so in this special fetish case i felt some explanations are necessary. But i still love the idea of combining the worst parts of a gulag, concentration camp and extermination camp and bringing it to a new level of perversity. So i expand my idea, a 100% extermination camp would be a bit boring because eventually you have exterminated everyone, then you have nobody left for your darker entertainment pleasures. The ultimate goal would be to make the camp for the inhabitants as close to hell as possible and have a constant supply of people who can be killed for entertainment. So some general prison rules: 1. If possible every prisoner is used for breeding. Female prisoners preferably for children to keep a slave population, male prisoners for beast breeding. 2. Prisoners usually get only scat, piss, cum, the corpses of their dead inmates or other disgusting stuff as for food and drink. 3. The guards are ordered to always keep the prisoners in the maximum possible discomfort in any ways they wish, but they should avoid too severe permanent harm. 4. Important thalmor guests may and will do anything. 5. Any form of uprising is brutally punished, usually the revolters get slowly killed in a horrid way. I'm not too fit with necromancer lore in the elder scrolls, would it be easily possible to ressurect recently killed dead? Then the prison could be made even more hardcore and they could simply kill and revive the poor prisoners frequently........ That's a huge undertaking, and I wouldn't want to agree to anything this big unless I knew I could do it. So for now, I'll just put this idea to the side, but not completely forget about it (oh BTW, the "slavemaster" encounter I have planned for 1.00 does have quite its share of cruelness. And from the scale of the "dungeon", it might end up feeling like a big prison (and definitely not to Skyrim scale). I'm just still trying to decide whether I make it a part of the actual game world, replace an existing place, and disconnect in completely. I don't want to put it underground, as there's some stuff I have planned that really requires a tall tower out in the open... ) Well, Cidna Mine can be used in this case, silverblood have everyone digging, just putting around more men and naked women to be taken and to breed to have more workers, so, there is the lowland in markart where all poor lives, that can be used too, it can be mannaged by Sexlab Aroused and Beeing Female, just saying XD
gaggedgirl123 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Posted January 13, 2014 Problem is, putting this in Cidna mine would mean a pretty good chance of messing up the whole quest. Besides, Cidna Mine is too small for what I have in mind... Read that as: "I need to make the place myself, because I want around 10 floors, a "tower" design, some exterior scenes, a LOT of cages and NPCs, torture stations, different themed rooms , and the whole thing to not only be awesome/terrifying as a slave, but to also be an interresting normal dungeon is case you end up taking the right path through the quest and having to kill the leader" Also, I want this place to have lasting entertainment should you be enslaved there. I don't want it to turn into a repetitive scene just waitng for you to escape, and I want your actions to have consequences. As I said a bit earlier, I want to make this BIG, so I'll probably take a good 3-4 months just to make it, and that's without any testing/correcting. As for the lowland in Markath... that could be an interresting spot for the quest, as in real life, slavers tend to look for poor people first (well, this is a very general assumption, of course)
xboronx Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Problem is, putting this in Cidna mine would mean a pretty good chance of messing up the whole quest. Besides, Cidna Mine is too small for what I have in mind... Read that as: "I need to make the place myself, because I want around 10 floors, a "tower" design, some exterior scenes, a LOT of cages and NPCs, torture stations, different themed rooms , and the whole thing to not only be awesome/terrifying as a slave, but to also be an interresting normal dungeon is case you end up taking the right path through the quest and having to kill the leader" Also, I want this place to have lasting entertainment should you be enslaved there. I don't want it to turn into a repetitive scene just waitng for you to escape, and I want your actions to have consequences. As I said a bit earlier, I want to make this BIG, so I'll probably take a good 3-4 months just to make it, and that's without any testing/correcting. As for the lowland in Markath... that could be an interresting spot for the quest, as in real life, slavers tend to look for poor people first (well, this is a very general assumption, of course) This sounds pretty awesome. This is the huge quest you have planned for version 1.0 with the possible slaver encounter? And it even sounds close enough to my gulag fantasy, oh my . The scope of this tower suits my megalomanic taste pretty well, the owner of the tower should be interesting to meet, this will be a nice surprise to find out. I'll speculate wildly and guess that he/she will have the favor of a daedra, maybe a tower with 10 stages of madness in honor of Sheogorath.
gaggedgirl123 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Posted January 13, 2014 Yup, this is the big one, 1.00 encounter. As for the gulag part, well, as I said, expect pain, humiliation, torment, and executions. Don't expect poison showers and ovens... Actually, I planned on having him/her (undecided yet) be a huge, and I mean HUGE political asset, probably one of the counselors in some altmer "government". I'll have to do a little bit of research on altmer's political structure for it to make sense. I personnally didn't think of anything involving Sheogorath yet. I do see the potential, but I think I have my hands full already haha On another note, I'm finally back home, so I can start working on HID again
Deimos Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Yup, this is the big one, 1.00 encounter. As for the gulag part, well, as I said, expect pain, humiliation, torment, and executions. Don't expect poison showers and ovens... Actually, I planned on having him/her (undecided yet) be a huge, and I mean HUGE political asset, probably one of the counselors in some altmer "government". I'll have to do a little bit of research on altmer's political structure for it to make sense. I personnally didn't think of anything involving Sheogorath yet. I do see the potential, but I think I have my hands full already haha On another note, I'm finally back home, so I can start working on HID again If your wanting to keep it loreish you could go with a Thalmor representative/leader, the tower could be an old dwemer ruin that the thalmor fixed up as a forward operating base for the next war, it could have 10 levels of devious and devilsh torture for a slave but who knows just how deep it goes.
BlackArk Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Idea:Ambush (Under)carriage "ride": ambushed by human/creature npc while riding carriage. Carriage kidnapping: Bandit poses as carriage driver and gives you a "ride". I apologize for the horrible puns.
gaggedgirl123 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Posted January 13, 2014 Idea: Ambush (Under)carriage "ride": ambushed by human/creature npc while riding carriage. Carriage kidnapping: Bandit poses as carriage driver and gives you a "ride". I apologize for the horrible puns. The first one might be a bit tough to omplement, but the second one though? this is BRILLANT! Thank you! I don't know exactly which encounter I'll use it for yet, but I really like this!
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