DeepBlueFrog Posted March 8, 2015 Author Posted March 8, 2015 I can't find any issue with armbinders. If you have a problem of armbinders getting removed and added in loop, I will need more details: 1- How did you get the armbinders? 2- How did you try removing them? 3- Were you enslaved at the time of removal? 4- Did you have multiple armbinder-type devices in your inventory? (like armbinders, iron cuffs, spriggan roots)
Teddar Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I can't find any issue with armbinders. If you have a problem of armbinders getting removed and added in loop, I will need more details: 1- How did you get the armbinders? 2- How did you try removing them? 3- Were you enslaved at the time of removal? 4- Did you have multiple armbinder-type devices in your inventory? (like armbinders, iron cuffs, spriggan roots) I have the removal/adding loop with armbinders and cuffs which have been applied when the master/mistress enslaves my character. Typically i start my enslavements myself with "i need a strong hand" I didnt have any other restraints in inventory and have made no attempt to remove any items myself. The issue arises when the master is asked "can I have my hands free" and subsequently removes the cuffs/armbinder. I have also noticed an armbinder specific bug where sex animations which shouldn't play do so resulting in my character playing the animation with no hands and the armbinder hanging down her back. Hope that helps.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 8, 2015 Author Posted March 8, 2015 I can't find any issue with armbinders. If you have a problem of armbinders getting removed and added in loop, I will need more details: 1- How did you get the armbinders? 2- How did you try removing them? 3- Were you enslaved at the time of removal? 4- Did you have multiple armbinder-type devices in your inventory? (like armbinders, iron cuffs, spriggan roots) I have the removal/adding loop with armbinders and cuffs which have been applied when the master/mistress enslaves my character. Typically i start my enslavements myself with "i need a strong hand" I didnt have any other restraints in inventory and have made no attempt to remove any items myself. The issue arises when the master is asked "can I have my hands free" and subsequently removes the cuffs/armbinder. I have also noticed an armbinder specific bug where sex animations which shouldn't play do so resulting in my character playing the animation with no hands and the armbinder hanging down her back. Hope that helps. Thanks... That gives me a starting place to look into. The missing hands and armbinders in the back is an issue with armbinders in general. Not much I can do about that other than recommending to uncheck 'bound animations filter' in Devious Device's menu. In case anyone had any question about missing furnitures in punishment animations, I can confirm furnitures are available. See screenshots I took today during a 1 hour test. I added most bound poses from Zaz Animation Pack, which means all furnitures are now available. But that also means there is a lower probability of getting a furniture animation since there are so manu bound poses without furniture to choose from. It will be possible in the future to have an option to select which animations should be included in punishments. The code now allows it but it will require more work to add that as a menu. There is still an issue with furniture missing at times ... I am still trying to figure out why that is. Any help or hint in that matter would be welcome.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 8, 2015 Author Posted March 8, 2015 Also... for the record... I did not take or steal this mod from jbezorg. He gladly accepted my offer to continue his work at a time when he was getting burnt out from dealing with the demands of maintaining multiple mods. He always had the choice to tell me to stop what I am doing at anytime and I am very grateful he did not. I added a link to the original version of SD on the download page in case anyone wants to use it instead of this version. It is not supported anymore but it is still downloadable. Of course, if you go back to that version, you will be missing things like: - customization of what happens to you when you are defeated - compatibility with recent versions of sexlab, submit, defeat and deviously helpless - compatibility with just about any forced device mod (in short, use the original version without devious devices mods to be safe) - progressive armor in spriggan quest (and full transformation into a spriggan shape) - interactions with Sanguine while in dreamworld I know I shouldn't be answering to comments made by some people on this thread but thought people who recently joined the forum should get some perspective instead of getting exposed to spiteful lies and distortions.
JahReit Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Also... for the record... I did not take or steal this mod from jbezorg. He gladly accepted my offer to continue his work at a time when he was getting burnt out from dealing with the demands of maintaining multiple mods. He always had the choice to tell me to stop what I am doing at anytime and I am very grateful he did not. I added a link to the original version of SD on the download page in case anyone wants to use it instead of this version. It is not supported anymore but it is still downloadable. Of course, if you go back to that version, you will be missing things like: - customization of what happens to you when you are defeated - compatibility with recent versions of sexlab, submit, defeat and deviously helpless - compatibility with just about any forced device mod (in short, use the original version without devious devices mods to be safe) - progressive armor in spriggan quest (and full transformation into a spriggan shape) - interactions with Sanguine while in dreamworld I know I shouldn't be answering to comments made by some people on this thread but thought people who recently joined the forum should get some perspective instead of getting exposed to spiteful lies and distortions. LOL, get the fuck out! As good as the original was, even jbezorg would agree it doesn't come close to your version. Thanks for all your exemplary work!
Teddar Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Yeah, stop listening to that buffoon. He is a person of little or no importance.
nutluck Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Also... for the record... I did not take or steal this mod from jbezorg. He gladly accepted my offer to continue his work at a time when he was getting burnt out from dealing with the demands of maintaining multiple mods. He always had the choice to tell me to stop what I am doing at anytime and I am very grateful he did not. Don't listen to trolls, it does no one any good. We know you asked and took over the mod and improved on it and that's all that matters.
shinji72 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I've followed all the Sanguine Debauchery Saga, from the jbezorg begining to the SD+ evolution. It has been a great adventure so far. It's a big part of Loverlab history.
Guest Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 hey I had question, for some reason the game has started acting weird.when I get the master's key the iron cuffs (leg and arms) dont come off, well they do but they immediatly come back. also despite being enslaved by forsworn (have not tested others) I am still hostile the other mobs. what could I do fix this? here are the latest mods I installed: immerslave estruschaurus sacrificial spriggan realistic needs bestial essence heroine distress I think it might be immerslave but I dont know what to do to resolve this issue. any ideas friend? edit: i also recently updated to the newest version of SD, and upon further reading here I guess I am not the only one. btw, when I use the consoles to get Master's key after the loop (the cuffs) I would get this message "the key works on bindings but without an enchanted enslavement collar bound to a master, it is useless on your collar and immediately crumbles into dust."
justbob2 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 When you are an obedient slave, you eventually get the optional conversation line "May I crawl, please?" Is there a particular animation file I need to have downloaded to make my character crawl?
Teddar Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 When you are an obedient slave, you eventually get the optional conversation line "May I crawl, please?" Is there a particular animation file I need to have downloaded to make my character crawl? No, its just an all fours pose. Sky has mentioned previously that making a crawl animation would be too problematic/time intensive.
Flying Banana Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Anyone know where the shrine is? Haven't seen it in game or documentation. :/ Thanks. the bridge near whiterun, just across the road from the meadery. under the first piling. the key is in a hard-to-see box on the other side of the piling. I must be blind, but i can't seem to be able to find it. It's in the honningbrew basement. There's a trap door under the first arch of the bridge that leads there, the local map might help a bit. Having great fun with the mod and looking forward to the new developments!
superawesome42 Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Just chimming in for a thank you for this mod, from us subs.
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Hey skyrimll did you change the hair from getting shaved to completely bald? Because idk i think I liked it better when it was shaved and had this look http://i2.cdnds.net/12/47/618x820/heaven2.jpg
boo Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Latest version is non-functional for me. I get captured, but no events actually happen. Latest version is non-functional for me. I get captured, but no events actually happen. This is on a fresh game with dialogues installed.
eryrwyn Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 hey I had question, for some reason the game has started acting weird. when I get the master's key the iron cuffs (leg and arms) dont come off, well they do but they immediatly come back. also despite being enslaved by forsworn (have not tested others) I am still hostile the other mobs. what could I do fix this? here are the latest mods I installed: immerslave estruschaurus sacrificial spriggan realistic needs bestial essence heroine distress I think it might be immerslave but I dont know what to do to resolve this issue. any ideas friend? edit: i also recently updated to the newest version of SD, and upon further reading here I guess I am not the only one. btw, when I use the consoles to get Master's key after the loop (the cuffs) I would get this message "the key works on bindings but without an enchanted enslavement collar bound to a master, it is useless on your collar and immediately crumbles into dust." I had exactly the same problem with Immerslave start (it's not limited to Forsworn, I also checked the orcs and bandits). After disabling it and just using SD, it works as it should (i.e. if you're enslaved, the others from your master's faction stop attacking you.
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Sheesh! What do I gotta do to make Mistress happy? Been a slave for a long time now. Been raped so many times my PC can't even walk anymore (Wear and Tear), gave gifts to her, always nice...will she ever let me go do quests? She's always "frowning" when she talks to me, and seems to hate my girl a lot. Also, she rarely feeds me or gives me anything to drink, and my PC keeps pissing herself (PN). She's very hungry, very thirsty, and very tired. Usually, when I ask for food, she feeds me skooma (doesn't satisfy hunger), and when I ask for something to drink, she says "open wide", and goes to rape my PC, which always changes to a blowjob anim (doesn't satisfy thirst, obviously). I suspect that one's due to DE. Every anim turns into something else. My girl's gonna die. What do I do? And will Mistress ever be "satisfied" for any length of time?? In real time, I'd say she rapes me at least once every 1 1/2 minutes. Like, every time she looks at me. Keep in mind I have armbinders on, so people really wanna fuck 'er when they see her. Asking her any question usually gets me raped. At this rate, she'll never walk again. Quickest way to make Narri happy so I can quest again? Doesn't look like her disposition has improved at all in 2 days, and I've never seen a passive option. Just "What do you want?", which results in my girl masturbating or posing in some way, and getting raped, sometimes more than once. Also, I use PM Swallow. Will she "feed me" her "private needs"? Is that...a feature? (out of pure curiosity) Can I piss/shit somehow? Gonna explode. She's dyin' here. Needs everything; hungry, tired, thirsty, gotta piss, gotta shit, can't walk, arms bound, conversation only leads to rape, no way to escape, no one helps, everyone rapes her, wife's about to cheat from waiting, Narri's leading me through the woods.....help!
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 hey I had question, for some reason the game has started acting weird. when I get the master's key the iron cuffs (leg and arms) dont come off, well they do but they immediatly come back. also despite being enslaved by forsworn (have not tested others) I am still hostile the other mobs. what could I do fix this? here are the latest mods I installed: immerslave estruschaurus sacrificial spriggan realistic needs bestial essence heroine distress I think it might be immerslave but I dont know what to do to resolve this issue. any ideas friend? edit: i also recently updated to the newest version of SD, and upon further reading here I guess I am not the only one. btw, when I use the consoles to get Master's key after the loop (the cuffs) I would get this message "the key works on bindings but without an enchanted enslavement collar bound to a master, it is useless on your collar and immediately crumbles into dust." I had exactly the same problem with Immerslave start (it's not limited to Forsworn, I also checked the orcs and bandits). After disabling it and just using SD, it works as it should (i.e. if you're enslaved, the others from your master's faction stop attacking you. Not immerslave here, but this is related (omigosh, I hope so). OK trekking through a cave, Peaches is suddenly unable to use weapons and some random man is having his way with her, while his friend is doing his level-best to kill her (frost, fire, a stick, whatever). They used to stand around clapping and being insulting. Now poor Peaches has to press "end" and decapitate everyone everywhere.
jfraser Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 hey I had question, for some reason the game has started acting weird. when I get the master's key the iron cuffs (leg and arms) dont come off, well they do but they immediatly come back. also despite being enslaved by forsworn (have not tested others) I am still hostile the other mobs. what could I do fix this? here are the latest mods I installed: immerslave estruschaurus sacrificial spriggan realistic needs bestial essence heroine distress I think it might be immerslave but I dont know what to do to resolve this issue. any ideas friend? edit: i also recently updated to the newest version of SD, and upon further reading here I guess I am not the only one. btw, when I use the consoles to get Master's key after the loop (the cuffs) I would get this message "the key works on bindings but without an enchanted enslavement collar bound to a master, it is useless on your collar and immediately crumbles into dust." I had exactly the same problem with Immerslave start (it's not limited to Forsworn, I also checked the orcs and bandits). After disabling it and just using SD, it works as it should (i.e. if you're enslaved, the others from your master's faction stop attacking you. Not immerslave here, but this is related (omigosh, I hope so). OK trekking through a cave, Peaches is suddenly unable to use weapons and some random man is having his way with her, while his friend is doing his level-best to kill her (frost, fire, a stick, whatever). They used to stand around clapping and being insulting. Now poor Peaches has to press "end" and decapitate everyone everywhere. That's Deviously Helpless. You must have been wearing some of the trigger devices.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 @AwfulArchDemon - I will try to explain the system of needs again Short story: - Give your master plenty of sex and cause a few punishments - Bring your master some food and gold, but after slevery level 2 - Ask 'why me..' a couple of times a day to accelerate the process but only if you gave your master some sex and caused some punsihments - Ask 'What do you want' several times a day. That will unlock some privileges when your master is happy with you. - Listen to your master's comments. They are hints about their personality and needs. Long story, progression through slavery is controlled by multiple factors: - Slavery level controls what you are allowed to do. At level 1, you are just a fresh slave and you are used only for sex, with no privileges. Each level unlocks more privileges when your master is happy and trusting (like standing or having your hands free). At level 6, you are a pure sex starved slave with full access to privileges. - Slavery exposure counts how many times you have been abused or punished during slavery. After enough exposure, you progress to the next slavery level. There is a cooldown effect - for each day of freedom, your exposure is reduced a little bit. After enough days of freedom, your slavery level with start at level 1 at the next enslavement. You can also set your min and max slavery level in SD menu, regardless of your exposure. - Master needs: every day, your master needs a certain number of sex, punishments, food and valuables in order to be happy. Listen to his or her comments, they are linked to their needs. At the end of the day, your master will evaluate how well you did. If you fell short and did not meet a goal, his or her trust and disposition will be reduced. For each goal you met, his or her disposition and trust will be increased. Note that at slavery level 1, only sex and punsihment count. At level 2, food goal is included if it is met, but will not hurt you if you missed it. At level 3, 'gold' goal will be counted as well. - Master personality profile. Your master comes with a randomly assigned personality, from caring to sadistic. Each profile adds a condition for a bonus of trust and disposition. For example: Some masters will give you a bonus if at least one goal is met. Some master will want to see all 4 goals met every day. Some masters will give you a bonus if they got to punish you. Here too, listen to their comments - masters will tell you something about their personality. - Master Disposition. This is how happy your master is with you. It goes from +10 (very happy) to -10 (very unhappy). The value is used to grant you access to certain privileges like being unleashed or standing. You can temporarily change your master's disposition by giving them gifts, being submissive (plea or 'may I..') or being fiesty (insults). - Master Trust. This is how confident your master is that you will not try to escape or kill them. Trust grants you access to more perks, like getting your hands free or holding a weapon for your master. Depending on how well you did at the end of the day, you will be granted trust points. These will be compared to your master's trust needs. If the difference is negative, your master does not trust you. If it is positive, the difference becomes a 'trust pool'... - Trust pool is a number of points used to get away with certain actions, like going outside when your master has you on a leash. Each infraction reduces your trust pool for the day. When the trust pool becomes negative, infractions will be met with whipping and punishments. The trust pool is recalculated at the end of each day based on your actions. - Slave defiance. This is a value between +10 and -10, based on your answers to the Submit/Resist menus. It measures how compliant or defiant you are to NPCs actions against you. When you are very submissive, some insults are disabled and your end game options are only about joining your master's faction or walking free as a slave. If you are defiant, your end game options are only about being banished by your master. - Overall disposition. An average value of your master's disposition over time. This is used to measure how happy your master is with you overall. After a number of days (customizable in the menu), your master will allow you to join (if overall disposition is higher than a threshold set in the menu as well). If the overall disposition is lower than that threshold, your master will sell you or dump you at the first occasion. - 'Why me..' topic. These values are recalculated at midnight every day by default. If you feel you are ready to be 'jedged' by your master, you can accelerte the process by asking 'why me'... that will force the values to be recalculated on demand. A word of warning - if you ask 'why me' too quickly (without accomplishing any goal), your master's trust and disposition will decrease. For future reference, I updated this wiki page with the explanations above. https://github.com/MinLL/SDPlus/wiki/ENSLAVEMENT The wiki page also includes more details about personality types and other aspects of slavery.
Guest anonimouss32231 Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 You have some plan for more creature enslavement? draugr etc...
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 You have some plan for more creature enslavement? draugr etc... I started moving Falmer enslavement options to Dialogues, under the 'Creature as a master' branch. Once that is done, I will have a generic enslavement scenario to extend to other creatures. From there, I will have a foundation to extend actions more specific to a particular race. The problem with creatures is that they have no default dialogue options, so the player can really interact only with the master. There is also the problem of finding unique actions for each race. Right now, I am planning on enslavement by falmer, trolls, draugr and giants. So the question is... outside of the basic interactions for food or sex, what would you expect to have to do as a slave to other creatures?
mm4ll Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Falmer: These guys can't see, so tasks for them could simply be doing things that they can't do. Go find something deeper in the caves. Go defeat that centurion. Draugr: Help them maintain the rituals. Light candles, worship at altars, stuff like that. Giants: Get cows for them from local farmers. Retrieve lost mammoths. Head into town to buy supplies for them. Head into a cave to kill bandits that are poaching their mammoths. No ideas for trolls.
deadmetal Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 You have some plan for more creature enslavement? draugr etc... I started moving Falmer enslavement options to Dialogues, under the 'Creature as a master' branch. Once that is done, I will have a generic enslavement scenario to extend to other creatures. From there, I will have a foundation to extend actions more specific to a particular race. The problem with creatures is that they have no default dialogue options, so the player can really interact only with the master. There is also the problem of finding unique actions for each race. Right now, I am planning on enslavement by falmer, trolls, draugr and giants. So the question is... outside of the basic interactions for food or sex, what would you expect to have to do as a slave to other creatures? Well...breeding is fairly obvious, perhaps with draugr, they could have you lure adventurers to come and 'Rescue' you and having them ambushed, killed and then turned into draugr themselves Giants could have you protect their mammoths or find new ones to add to the herd.
magnusx Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 As Falmer slave to run against the time and have 2 opions: -to serve as food for the cocoons of chaurus with bad ending to reload -breed chaurus eggs and falmers, once done with breeding in one cave certain amount of eggs and falmers be transported to another falmer cave during nights givin u chance to scape. As troll slave must please the troll to not be eaten, troll wander around looking for fox, deer or another humans to eat, u must help him to be distracted on other stuff or end dead in his belly bringing food for him and fullfill his sexual needs As draugur when captured get transformed into a ghost and have to please the master draugur luring more humans to the dungeons and gain trust from him to regain ur flesh or vanish into the ruins In giants i think the troll mechanics could be similar but bring them farm food, just look usefull and distract them from the fact ure a human XD Hope somthing be of use, thnx for ur amazing work!
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