Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[RyuuHawke]

New update is up - 1.05c.

 

That will be the last one for a while (unless there is another critical issue).

 

It bothered me that there were two 'Help me' dialogues (one while still enslaved and one after) and they both only had one response 'Of course' or 'How much'.

 

Now you will see the difference.

 

The first one will release you from your Master by removing easy to remove items (gag, blinf, butt plug).

The second one will free your hands, feet and collar and will require tools. 

 

You will have to ask for help twice in a row, and the same person may or may not have the tools to help you completely

 

Yeahhh well the critical issue I encounter (not that critical) is that the MCM SD menu words are covered in all cap words of variation of $SD"something". The B version didnt had that, all I did was replace the B files with the C updated one. Also how do you "die" or go back to Sanguine's realm after the first visit?

 

Edit: Tried the enslavement via Emperial attacking me in Solitude after enlisting with the Stormcloak, the guard some time won't attack me (I can talk to them though if I try to fast travel around them the game tell me I am in combat), when they do attack me and knock me down, the game crashes everytime I press ok when the msg box appear that I was stripped and collared.

[FrankenLife]

I have done some testing on a clean save that never saw SD before.  So far I am still in the same spot that I was in before.  No chains or bindings are removed with the key.  I have to do it with the console.  Safe word wouldn't get me out of the chains though it would end the quest.  I did some closing  and opening  of different saves for a bit and was able to get the scenes to start regularly.  So on the clean save at least I can get scenes.  Need to do some more work to go into and try out my other save.  However using wait while bound will make me CTD.  A was also getting other random CTD only while bound.  They are all random with no clear trigger(except for the "wait" one of course.)

 

If one scene gets thrown off then it gets broken all the way down.  I will see the lighting change, and then if the NPC doesn't come back to me thn then it gets stuck in that process and can't move on

 

How do you check the papyrus log? I'll let you know what else I find.  

 

I haven't tried the latest 1.05b/c yet.  

 

Also I too am getting script references in the debug screen text for scenes sometimes.(clean save)

[Zydar]

I understand that the original SD files are no longer required, but for characters that have it ongoing with SD+, should I be uninstalling SD before installing the new SD+ or just install it on top of the original SD? I understand in both situation, the previous version of SD+ would still need to be remove beforehand.

[Vith]

I've once again managed to install it, and no crashes, etc, yet!

Before I have to leave for a while, I made some quick tests with my save that allready hat SD+ running (I'll start a new char later, to see if any problems I've encountered are persistent)

 

First enslavement went not so well, Animations didn't trigger, even tough the message told me so. Later enslavement worked well, animations where played.

I tried out the new creature-feature (hey, it rhymes!) with some wolfes - worked well, even tough the first one was kind of.. hesistant to attack me at all.

Tried a draugr and it just killed me. Not even the "is blinded by lust" dialoge came up.

Visited Windhelm, since the toon is an imperial. Nothing happend so far, even if I run around naked the whole time - naked comments or not. (Wich is something I also had with the old patch. Rape did rarely happen, even tough they made the naked comments all the time.)

 

Also, tried to enforce a death, to see if I get teleported to sanguines realm. To archive that, I slaped a gurad in Winhelm. This is what happens:

They attack me until I'm down on the ground, then stop. If I stand up again, they wont do anything unless I slap them again. Then they'll just kill me. (And the game reloads the save) so.. no realm for me yet.

Again, this is with my old save, and I'll make a new toon later, to see if theres a difference.

 

(Also, some kind of /questionsuggestion: Is it possible to equip the creatures their, uh, missing parts during the animations? I did not install anything, since it looks kinda.. strange if every animal walks around with a boner all the time, heh.)

[AwfulArchdemon]

I've once again managed to install it, and no crashes, etc, yet!

 

Before I have to leave for a while, I made some quick tests with my save that allready hat SD+ running (I'll start a new char later, to see if any problems I've encountered are persistent)

 

First enslavement went not so well, Animations didn't trigger, even tough the message told me so. Later enslavement worked well, animations where played.

I tried out the new creature-feature (hey, it rhymes!) with some wolfes - worked well, even tough the first one was kind of.. hesistant to attack me at all.

Tried a draugr and it just killed me. Not even the "is blinded by lust" dialoge came up.

Visited Windhelm, since the toon is an imperial. Nothing happend so far, even if I run around naked the whole time - naked comments or not. (Wich is something I also had with the old patch. Rape did rarely happen, even tough they made the naked comments all the time.)

 

Also, tried to enforce a death, to see if I get teleported to sanguines realm. To archive that, I slaped a gurad in Winhelm. This is what happens:

They attack me until I'm down on the ground, then stop. If I stand up again, they wont do anything unless I slap them again. Then they'll just kill me. (And the game reloads the save) so.. no realm for me yet.

 

Again, this is with my old save, and I'll make a new toon later, to see if theres a difference.

 

(Also, some kind of /questionsuggestion: Is it possible to equip the creatures their, uh, missing parts during the animations? I did not install anything, since it looks kinda.. strange if every animal walks around with a boner all the time, heh.)

Don't use saves with the earlier version of SD+. This is a major overhaul. Best to use a new game. I know I know, but it's worth it. We now have the new version. This one is, as I said, a major overhaul, met with lots of tests, and reports.

 

 

 

Though the Creature report is pretty great. (thanks! )

 

SD+!  

[Vith]

Heh, I know, but I was kinda impatient to try it out!

[guyver]

an hell of a changelog!

gonna try it right now.

[Skyrimfloo]

I tested it quickly for enslavement and this time it didn't cause anything weird, even though I got another "scene could not start" popup message, owner enslaved my character then proceeded to enjoy his new acquisition.

 

The only thing that I got for now is Schlongs of Skyrim not loading the proper body when having sex, although I didn't test it further yet (to see if it still morphs and works on non-SD related sex). I got the load order from BOSS, with SOS placed after SD+. and the option for swapping body to erect in the menu is disabled, so I really have no idea of why is this happening. Maybe a problem with the body slot? the character liiks simply like vanilla, with no stuff there, but usually when SOS fails I can see some sort of mesh hole there, so I'm not too sure about what's going on.

 

In "vanilla SD", the problem was caused by the Daedric articaft, if I remember correctly, but anyways, today I gotta try to tweak my ENB first so I'll investigate these things later.

[HMTSM]

And once more: failed text in the mcm menue in the new version.

[Ashra XIII]

So I went ahead and downloaded the 1.05c, and removed everything else (since this is standalone right?). However, when I get into the game and open the menu, all the options are looking weird (They all start with $SD_). I can see the options are there and clickable, but everything is messed up.

 

I opened up the .ZIP file I downloaded, and noticed that none of the folders are there such as Interface, meshes, SEQ, and textures.. just the .ESP and .BSA files.

 

So is this normal as far as the files go? If so, what the heck is wrong with my menu?

 

Edit: Okay, so I just learned that BSAs have lots of stuff in them! But I tried un-packing the BSA just to see if that was the issue, and my menu is still screwed up. Screenshot attached.

 

I'll try the 'interface' folder from SD to see if that works. (per suggestion below)

[Johnny05]

So I went ahead and downloaded the 1.05c, and removed everything else (since this is standalone right?). However, when I get into the game and open the menu, all the options are looking weird (They all start with $SD_). I can see the options are there and clickable, but everything is messed up.

 

I opened up the .ZIP file I downloaded, and noticed that none of the folders are there such as Interface, meshes, SEQ, and textures.. just the .ESP and .BSA files.

 

So is this normal as far as the files go? If so, what the heck is wrong with my menu?

 

You can use the Interface files from the original SD. That's what I  did. Just make sure you don't install anything else.

 

 

I wanted to report an incompatibillity with SPERG. It causes enslavement to end everytime shortly after having started.

This can be easily avoided by deactivating the autoequip of the "fists" that come with SPERG.

It's basically the same as with the looping equip-sound with the armbinder equipped.

 

I had this problem for quite a while and could not use SD because of it, until I finally found out about it.

[Vith]

I made a new game, aaand: Yes!

Works!
Alot of the things I mentioned earlier work now: my toon gets enslaved as usuall (Even tough I get the same message as Skyrimfloo, where the scene would not start - and then it starts, heh).

I've tested some creatures again. While wolves still work as intendet, Draugr wont work properly. The one I tried didn't kill the toon like in my old save, but the animation doesn't work. While my toon gets humped by the air, the draugr stood around in this weird T-pose. Anyone knows a way to fix that? (I ran FNIS, of course.) Oh, and afterwards, he didn't attack me anymore, just backed up from me, or followed me.

 

When I wanted to try out a giant, he onehittet the toon instead. Wich teleportet her to sanguines realm, so that works well, too! (Altough the teleport isn't quite flawless in my opinion. Screen turn black a few times, until I can move again.)

Same with sabercats - still too strong, I guess, since they decided to kill my toon - sanguine whipped her a while, and the teleport bugged around - I got teleportet from sanguines realm to... sanguines realm! (The manual teleporter fixed that for me, so it's okay!) I'll try that one at a later time, when my toon can take a few more hits.

 

Oh, and turns out, guards do not kill me anymore, even if I stand up again, and slap them a second time.

 

I'm in love with that patch.

 

 

[Redflyingmonkey]

 

Heya ! Thanks dude, this version is way more stable than the last one, but I have some issues with the interactions tho ! I mean, asking how I could help the master doesn't start any scene, and the whipping animation isn't starting, nor the dance one when I ask someone if they want a dance, plus when I pay for my freedom, I get my chains back ! There's no task starting either, and the owner just does his usual routine around the bandit camp without interacting with me whatsoever, I can see the dialogues have an effect when I allow the message box to appear, but that's it, no tasks, no whipping

 

What do the popup message say in the corner of the screen when a scene happens?

 

Well you know, they say the usual "Your master's grin sends shivers down your spine" or "Did you think I'd fall for that ?" then a message pops up with something like "Join your master after -23 is under -50", and nothing happens, I kinda managed to start some animations when I chose the "angry" option in "Master ?", but there's only one, the skooma/alcoohol force feed. Then I speak to him lots of time to effectively get my "-23" at "-50" (this is the relationship level right ?), and when I manage to get at -50 by asking 20 times '"how can I please you ?", he frees me of my bonds, then goes on his routine around the camp. Somehow it should start some kind of task or even a rape right ? 

Also, when I speak to other people in the camp with "Shall I dance for you", nothing happens or they rape me instead (no random sex mod activated), and the option "You look all alone, do you need some company" doesn't toggle anything. Furthermore, the master didn't rape me when he enslaved me at the start, I was just bound then strolled around the camp. Oh, and I don't know if I said this but when I paid the 500 gold for my freedom, the owner puts the bonds back on me even tho the hardcore mode is not activated. I reloaded a save I made prior to entering the camp, and the whole slavery bug I mentionned happens again, but this time he frees me completely, I kill him, retrieve the master's key on him, and as soon as I leave the corpse's inventory, my bonds are back again I tried giving myself the master key by console command but nothing happened. Then I thought the hardcore mode may have been enabled after the quest began, so I strolled back to some village, can't remember which, and the local blacksmith wouldn't help me, in fact he raped me right after I asked the "Help me" thingy. 

There it is, I'm sure it's some kind of mod conflict since it doesn't seem to happen to other people. All in all, it's the exact same thing that went on with the original Sanguine :/ 

 

Edit : Oh, I have the Sanguine Debauchery compatibility patch for Devious Devices installed, as well as "Submit Belt", can this have something to do with anything ? 

[CGi]

Try walking around in Solitude or Windhelm if you are of the 'wrong' race or civil war faction

 

And ..

you better hide that Daedric weapon if you walk by a vigilant of Stendaar

 

 

I am building a small list of quest related rapes... conditions where some people may not be happy with your choices.

i love the sound of this, because Vigilants of Stendarr was way to buggy for me.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Wow... too many posts to answer individually this morning. I will have to go over these again and take notes.

 

One thing I can answer to right now is about getting killed vs being teleported to Sanguine's Realm.

 

Until you sleep after your first enslavement (and release), you will die just like everybody else.

The first visit to the dreamworld marks the start of your contract with Sanguine - that's when he marks you with his artifact and makes you somewhat immortal.

 

So if you keep getting killed, try surviving your first enslavement and escape and get a good sleep.

[CGi]

One question:
Why don't you take over SD completly? Having the loose files from SD and the new BSAs from SD+ is not the best solution.

Right now your mod looks like stand alone, but isn't as you don't deliver the interface folder /together with other files of which i don't know if they are needed any longer) with the MCM translations, hence the reports about $-sign MCM menus.

[DeepBlueFrog]

One question:

Why don't you take over SD completly? Having the loose files from SD and the new BSAs from SD+ is not the best solution.

Right now your mod looks like stand alone, but isn't as you don't deliver the interface folder /together with other files of which i don't know if they are needed any longer) with the MCM translations, hence the reports about $-sign MCM menus.

 

I did, but I put them in the bsa in my rush last night... I will try to package things exactly as they were in SD.

 

In effect that's what I am doing with jbezorg permission. It is just the transition is not going as smoothly as I would have liked

[CGi]

You actually forgot to package up the interface folder.
i extracted the BSA and it's not there, together with some other files of which i don't know if they are still needed.

Suggestion: Don't put the interface folder in the BSA. Easier for translators, easeir to update.

[beauty bane]

_{I have some problems.}

 

_{1. Sometimes it shows a message like scene skipped: 7 .Why and what did i miss? i think thats dance scene because when i dance for NPC there is only some light but no animation.. Is only my problem or every has this?}

 

_{2. For punishment, i got more than 100 misstep point but only thing i got is some whipping and an anus toy.}

 

_{3. I cant find any way to visit the Sanguine's Realm.}

 

_{4. Use SD+ 1.05, should i uninstall SD first?}

 

 

 

[shinji72]

Fast reply service:

Regarding 3): have you tried to sleep (after escaping the first master)?

4) No, you don't

[omnomnom997]

I'm having similar problems to other people with the falmer enslavement.  If I get enslaved by a falmer (triggering enslavement) and then get hit by a chaurus (with estrus chaurus installed), it freezes up so badly that I need to go to another account and end the process with task manager from there.  Once enslaved, no option actually triggers an animation, there's just a message about grinning/growling lustily and I get the glow-in-the-dark effect.  It also occasionally opens the Race Menu for some reason and freezes with it half-loaded.

[omio]

Another bug in addition to the other ones ive found is that when i try to uninstall the mod via the MCM, I get teleported to sanguines world but cant do anything.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Another bug in addition to the other ones ive found is that when i try to uninstall the mod via the MCM, I get teleported to sanguines world but cant do anything.

 

That one is not a bug - it is an unexpected feature actually.

 

If you lose your 'essential' status while uninstalling, you die instantly. Teleporting you to the dreamworld fixes that and should allow you to finish uninstalling the mod after you use 'coc' to go somewhere else. That's the idea at least.

 

As for the broken scenes in enslavement, I am working for a fix. They are clearly broken.

[Pinute]

Scenes may be broken a bit, but so far they've failed gracefully. Enslaved by a conjuror in Ustnegrav, sex scenes lagged then failed repeatedly. Escaped, captured again and they worked. No save/load or other shenanigans necessary.

 

(did have a big stack dump but I'm not sure that this was the source of the overload - LOTS of references to npc_potions from asis. I've rebuilt that and will test again this evening).

[Darklyter]

Has anyone else had a problem of the new version still showing as the old version in MCM?

 

I think something might just be hosed in my save file, but no matter what I try I can't get it to display the correct version.  (And I've uninstalled all the other SD/Patches with NMM and checked to make sure that everything is gone from \Scripts and \Interface)

 

Though I think it's just hosed because of things like if I "setstage SKI_configmanagerinstance 1", MCM loses the menu option for SD, and if I completely remove SD (or the new version now) then I get a CTD on a game save.

 

Man I just wish Bethesda used a save format that was possible to clean!

 

As for right now I'm just envious of all of you guys, and wondering if it's worth restarting and going through 39 levels again.