Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[The Stinkin' Beaver]

yeah that would make this mod really tough, disabling the console cheats in the SD+ menu or by default

[Allannaa]

Is there a possibility that Spouse and Follower factions will be taken off the "can't be my master" formlist?  I ask because my fave follower is Kharjo; someone did a mod on Nexus that made him marryable (though unvoiced) and I think it'd be fun if I could get him to collar me.  And I'm sure there are folks out there who'd like Lydia or Rayya or the companion (Aela?  something like that) as a spouse/owner or follower/owner.

 

Have I mentioned I'm really beginning to have a heck of a lot of fun with this mod?  I love it.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Is there a possibility that Spouse and Follower factions will be taken off the "can't be my master" formlist?  I ask because my fave follower is Kharjo; someone did a mod on Nexus that made him marryable (though unvoiced) and I think it'd be fun if I could get him to collar me.  And I'm sure there are folks out there who'd like Lydia or Rayya or the companion (Aela?  something like that) as a spouse/owner or follower/owner.

 

Have I mentioned I'm really beginning to have a heck of a lot of fun with this mod?  I love it.

 

Followers and Spouses already are allowed to become masters. Or they should be in the coming version.

 

I revamped the list of prohibited factions and I am certain I removed Spouses and Followers.

 

Remember - in order to submit voluntarily, you need to wear a collar from Zaz Animation Pack or Devious Devices (harness counts as a collar as well).

[Buffmutti]

As far as i know most followers, housecarls and spouses will enslave you if you ask them (and if you wear a collar).

 

I know that for example only 50% of the bandits will enslave you (i guess....i have checked this with a bandit camp with 8 bandits and only 3 or 4 did enslave me, the other 4 did not).

 

I have even tested if the relationship would change that and the answer was a clear "No", a bandit which did enslave me did the same thing no matter if he loved or hated me and the bandits which did not enslave me didn't change their behavior too.

[The Stinkin' Beaver]

one shouldn't have the option to get out of a marriage enslavement though. this is not a game anymore

[backthere]

Gave this a bit of a run on my last restart and really enjoyed the concepts behind it.

 

But after getting stuck with a gag on that I couldn't remove regardless of how many people I mumbled incoherently to I had to pull it.

 

I really like the concepts behind SD/SD+ but I wish there was something simpler that just did capture/enslavement without so many moving parts that could potentially break a game.

 

Granted it may not be SD+'s fault that the gag wouldn't remove, it could have conflicted with one of the other SL mods I'm using, I don't really know..but everything about the game was just fine...I was just stuck with a gag on and couldn't get it off, even with a master key in my inventory, every time I removed it, it would just reattach....this of course led to problems communicating with people so, yeah.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Gave this a bit of a run on my last restart and really enjoyed the concepts behind it.

 

But after getting stuck with a gag on that I couldn't remove regardless of how many people I mumbled incoherently to I had to pull it.

 

I really like the concepts behind SD/SD+ but I wish there was something simpler that just did capture/enslavement without so many moving parts that could potentially break a game.

 

Granted it may not be SD+'s fault that the gag wouldn't remove, it could have conflicted with one of the other SL mods I'm using, I don't really know..but everything about the game was just fine...I was just stuck with a gag on and couldn't get it off, even with a master key in my inventory, every time I removed it, it would just reattach....this of course led to problems communicating with people so, yeah.

 

That should be fixed in the next version.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Speaking of the new version...

 

I will miss the Halloween deadline as I suspected.

 

Development and testing are going well, with no insurmountable issue so far, but I have to go over the weekend unexpectedly (which will deprive me of almost 3 days of development) and there are just too many things I still need to add and test.

 

The test version is currently very playable but still needs more dialogue options for diversity, as well as 'endgame' options (join your master, be sold to someone else or be left for dead).

 

I will need another week.. maybe two at most... but we are almost there.

 

If you can't wait to get your hands on it and you don't mind starting new games for fun, I am always open for feedback from volunteers. A few already signed up for beta testing and for that I am very grateful. 

 

I have high hopes this will be worth the wait.

[nameless701]

i must say,the test-version is verry cool.

Thanks @ skyrimll

[Skit]

Oh Sanguine bought my enslavement from another master and when I used the chain he decimated everything. So funny xD I like this mod !

[Allannaa]

 

Is there a possibility that Spouse and Follower factions will be taken off the "can't be my master" formlist?  I ask because my fave follower is Kharjo; someone did a mod on Nexus that made him marryable (though unvoiced) and I think it'd be fun if I could get him to collar me.  And I'm sure there are folks out there who'd like Lydia or Rayya or the companion (Aela?  something like that) as a spouse/owner or follower/owner.

 

Have I mentioned I'm really beginning to have a heck of a lot of fun with this mod?  I love it.

 

Followers and Spouses already are allowed to become masters. Or they should be in the coming version.

 

I revamped the list of prohibited factions and I am certain I removed Spouses and Followers.

 

Remember - in order to submit voluntarily, you need to wear a collar from Zaz Animation Pack or Devious Devices (harness counts as a collar as well).

 

 

I'm wearing the "WT-Harness", which as far as I know, should work.  I got the "Strong hand" dialog one time with K, and he told me it wasn't his problem.  So... I'll wait with bated breath for the new version.  Exciting!

[GregariousGibbon]

Hi,
I love the options your mod adds in terms of enslavement but i've had a few issues with my gear and masters and someone thought that my issues were linked most to this mod.

 

Scenario: Went to the blackbriars estate as part of the thieves guild quest. I had no devices equipped as i remember, and had only just installed the mods (death alternative + most of the devious things) along side defeat which i had for a couple of days. A fight ensues, i get enslaved after bleeding out and devices including armbinder and possibly slave collar is equipped.

 

All good so far. I have a succubus mod (PSQ) and used it while he was sleeping to kill the master. He dies and i take all my inventory. Still all good, but a few of my devices are still equipped and so i am HELPLESS (ie deviously helpless trigger conditions). I go outside, female blackbriar takes advantage of helplessness. I think i am then robbed again by said person, but without death alternative blackout and I run away to riften.

 

I mooch about in riften trying to free myself of things (i get my armbinders off) and then blackbriar comes charging thru the gate fighting guards and rapes my character. I ran away but didn't save it and reloaded my save from when i entered riften looking to get my armbinders off. I decide its time to take off my devices (mainly because i then installed DD for masses and the config wont open when devices or maybe just the belt are attached) so i went to winterhold and got the booke, crafted some keys, and used the console to get keys to get the restraints off. However none of the three keys (2 kinds of restraint key and one high restraint key) got the slave collar off.... (my legs cuffs also have strange bug where i could freely equip/unequip them form my inventory but they remained on my character, and when i dropped them, they disappeared from my inventory but not onto the floor, and i can still see them attached to my chars legs).

So i then assumed that the blackbriar had a specific key for the collar, but i cant find her anywhere, she hasn't come after me, and the place i first found her is deserted. I also noticed that when I looked in my skyrim bound mcm it says "You already have a master!". Also after some testing when i was next enslaved after bleeding out, i was stripped of all possessions, but the master who should have had them didn't and so after he died i was left without any gear. I'm not certain but this might be to do with already having a master. Maybe you can have many? I don't know.

TLDR:

 

So basically what i'm asking is whether there is any way to clear master status and/or a way get a get to get this collar off (console maybe?) and possibly any way of getting the leg cuffs off although that's not too much of an issue. I don't really care about any of the gear that was taken from me by the blackbriar, i just want the enslavement part of death alternative to work properly. I can post the full modlist and or plugin load order if that's helpful?

[DeepBlueFrog]

@GregariousGibbon - That kind of issue will be sorted out in the next update. I am working on improving removal of devices after escape among other things.

 

 

[CliftonJD]

Hi,

I love the options your mod adds in terms of enslavement but i've had a few issues with my gear and masters and someone thought that my issues were linked most to this mod.

 

Scenario: Went to the blackbriars estate as part of the thieves guild quest. I had no devices equipped as i remember, and had only just installed the mods (death alternative + most of the devious things) along side defeat which i had for a couple of days. A fight ensues, i get enslaved after bleeding out and devices including armbinder and possibly slave collar is equipped.

 

All good so far. I have a succubus mod (PSQ) and used it while he was sleeping to kill the master. He dies and i take all my inventory. Still all good, but a few of my devices are still equipped and so i am HELPLESS (ie deviously helpless trigger conditions). I go outside, female blackbriar takes advantage of helplessness. I think i am then robbed again by said person, but without death alternative blackout and I run away to riften.

 

I mooch about in riften trying to free myself of things (i get my armbinders off) and then blackbriar comes charging thru the gate fighting guards and rapes my character. I ran away but didn't save it and reloaded my save from when i entered riften looking to get my armbinders off. I decide its time to take off my devices (mainly because i then installed DD for masses and the config wont open when devices or maybe just the belt are attached) so i went to winterhold and got the booke, crafted some keys, and used the console to get keys to get the restraints off. However none of the three keys (2 kinds of restraint key and one high restraint key) got the slave collar off.... (my legs cuffs also have strange bug where i could freely equip/unequip them form my inventory but they remained on my character, and when i dropped them, they disappeared from my inventory but not onto the floor, and i can still see them attached to my chars legs).

 

So i then assumed that the blackbriar had a specific key for the collar, but i cant find her anywhere, she hasn't come after me, and the place i first found her is deserted. I also noticed that when I looked in my skyrim bound mcm it says "You already have a master!". Also after some testing when i was next enslaved after bleeding out, i was stripped of all possessions, but the master who should have had them didn't and so after he died i was left without any gear. I'm not certain but this might be to do with already having a master. Maybe you can have many? I don't know.

TLDR:

 

So basically what i'm asking is whether there is any way to clear master status and/or a way get a get to get this collar off (console maybe?) and possibly any way of getting the leg cuffs off although that's not too much of an issue. I don't really care about any of the gear that was taken from me by the blackbriar, i just want the enslavement part of death alternative to work properly. I can post the full modlist and or plugin load order if that's helpful?

skyrimill has the fix planned, but for now you should be able to fix the bugged restraints by putting ALL devious devices into a barrel somewhere and locked items or glitch-locked items should then rest back to the player then take remaining items from the barrel and use those keys to remove your restraints, but you mentioned getting keys from conasole and you never mentioned a chastity key: its been tested by many devious users that keys created from console generally don't work, you'll need them from the forge or from "devious loot", "dd for the masses" also contains a chance for fake keys and only chastity keys remove chastity belt, chastity bra, and/or harness

 

@GregariousGibbon - That kind of issue will be sorted out in the next update. I am working on improving removal of devices after escape among other things.

[thetwo2012]

I will need another week.. maybe two at most... but we are almost there.

 

Just wanted to say that I always appreciate these sorts of updates. I'd much rather see a mod maker missing deadlines and making new ones (be they hard or soft) than just saying "when it's done".

[GregariousGibbon]

@GregariousGibbon - That kind of issue will be sorted out in the next update. I am working on improving removal of devices after escape among other things.

Ah thanks, I would appreciate it.

 

skyrimill has the fix planned, but for now you should be able to fix the bugged restraints by putting ALL devious devices into a barrel somewhere and locked items or glitch-locked items should then rest back to the player then take remaining items from the barrel and use those keys to remove your restraints, but you mentioned getting keys from conasole and you never mentioned a chastity key: its been tested by many devious users that keys created from console generally don't work, you'll need them from the forge or from "devious loot", "dd for the masses" also contains a chance for fake keys and only chastity keys remove chastity belt, chastity bra, and/or harness

improving removal of devices after escape among other things.

Thanks, but i think I maybe don't understand fully, I stored all my devices and keys in a chest, except for the slave collar, as when I try to do so it won't leave my inventory (also the leg cuffs aren't in my inventory even though they appear on my character and so I can't store them). I then took all the devices and keys back but when I try to open the slave collar by clicking on it in inventory and "unlock with key" it says something along the lines of "You do not have the key required to open this lock". I have 3 chastity keys and a couple of restraint keys that I forged, and I have one "high-restraint" key but none of them seem to work on the collar.

 

The problem that's bugging me most though is the "You already have a master" message in the MCM menu under skyrim bound, as I really don't have a master and I don't currently have an "Enslaved" quest.

 

When I do trigger the enslavery now, the quest and everything comes up, but none of my gear is transferred to my new master, it instead just disappears, ie. when the master dies none of my gear shows up on his body, just what they usually have + master's key. I have not changed any of the settings in the MCM menu under "Recovery of gear" and so I should only be permanently losing 50% of it rather than all of it. I was just wondering whether these 2 things might be linked and maybe solving the first will solve the second.

[Vithiss]

@GregariousGibbon

 

When you are enslaved via SD your inventory is transferred to a special chest in the Dreamrealm - near the throne - and you can recover it from there.

 

Hope that helps.

[DeepBlueFrog]

@GregariousGibbon

 

When you are enslaved via SD your inventory is transferred to a special chest in the Dreamrealm - near the throne - and you can recover it from there.

 

Hope that helps.

 

In addition, the slavery collar from SD has its own special key (the master's key). It cannot be unlocked by regular Devious Devices keys.

[GregariousGibbon]

Hmm perhaps i'm getting my mods mixed up, I haven't actually been into the Dreamrealm, i'm talking more about regular enslavement after the Death Alternative bleedout. I for some reason assumed that SD covered that as well, I think because of the MCM options looking like they alter Death Alternative YMOYL configuartions. So is the issue with death alternative?

 

Thanks for the many responses btw.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hmm perhaps i'm getting my mods mixed up, I haven't actually been into the Dreamrealm, i'm talking more about regular enslavement after the Death Alternative bleedout. I for some reason assumed that SD covered that as well, I think because of the MCM options looking like they alter Death Alternative YMOYL configuartions. So is the issue with death alternative?

 

Thanks for the many responses btw.

 

Did you check out the FAQ and PDF manuals? There are links on the download page.

They include details to better configure SD to work with  Death Alternative and trigger enslavement.

[Allannaa]

Two things -- *edit* Okay Three Things

 

First, I think I know why Kharjo won't collar me.  His SexLab Diary rating is "Saintly".  Will he lose enough morality to collar me eventually, or will I need to use one of the utility programs to fix that in SexLab itself?

 

Second, even though I have Fuz Ro D'oh installed, sometimes Sanguine's messages flash too fast to read them.

 

Third is a little weird.

 

I've been reading the PDF off and on (usually I read it again each time something happens) but I'm either confused or I've messed something up.

 

I've been enslaved by a spriggan, because I wandered into a grove without realising that particular type could enslave.

 

I have Spriggan "boots" and "gauntlets" but no other spriggan armour.

 

I've asked people about the roots, and figured out that I have to go book-spelunking in the Arcanaeum over at the College.

 

I found a book called something like "Fables of the Reach".  Reading it gave the objective to go to Clear Pond (one of the locations), and I got a map marker.

 

I talk to people, or they randomly mention, or Kharjo (my follower/spouse) will randomly say things, and get the green glow effect.  A couple of times I've been forced to dance (and I'm bad at it) and then I'm taken by whoever happens to be around.  (The Khajiit caravan was interesting, let me tell you!)  Eventually, I'll get a sex scene, either from Kharjo or from whoever's around.

 

When the sex is over, in the upper left of the screen, I get the message, "The roots throb deeply in and out of you."

 

Then I get a message box for "The roots spread relentlessly through the rest of your boby [sic] leaving you gasping for air."   This box pops up at the same time as "Started: Chastity Belt" shows on the screen.

 

I click OK in the box, and CTD.  Every single time thus far.

 

I reloaded and slept for I believe 9 hours, got the same root-throb message, got the Chastity Belt quest, got the Roots spread message box, clicked OK, and CTDed again.

 

I'm not sure if this is a bug in SD+ or if it's a mod conflict.  What info do you need to figure out if this is something with SD+ or if I'm just a goofball?  If it's just a matter of SD+ conflicting with some other mod in the below list, I'll gladly uninstall the conflicting mod to use SD+.

SKSE latest version is installed, along with FNIS and FNIS Creature Animation.  I run the FNIS For Users before I click the SkyrimSKSE shortcut every time I play

 

Load Order:

Skyrim, Update, HF, DG, DB, Texture packs

My own Merchant, Armour, Jewelry, and Crafting mods

RND (vanilla version) and HF, DG, DB patches

Realistic Ragdoll

hdtHighHeels

Dragon Combat Overhaul

Ultimate Follower Overhaul

Hypothermia

Cloaks of Skyrim

Improved Closed-Face Helmets

Duel Combat (I haven't had a conflict with YMOYL, but I think there is supposed to be one.  But I black out and get enslaved just fine.)

Fuz Ro D'oh

Khajiit Marriage Mod

Married Khajiit Extras

Follower Commentary Overhaul

Married Follower Voice Mod

Dogs of Skyrim and Quieter Dogs

Populated Cities 2

SkyTEST Realistic Animals

YMOYL (daymol)

SexLab and Zaz Animation Packs

Schlongs and Vector Plexus

DD, DDx ,DD Integrated, and DD for Him (and Deviously Deviant, the quest pack for DD)

DDRestrained

Horny Followers

Deviously Helpless

Dangerously Nude

Aroused Creatures

SexLab Aroused

SD+

SkyUI

[Allannaa]

One other thing -- if you want beta testers, I'll give it a whirl, Sky.  I'm not sure how much help I'll be, because I'm dreadful with scripting (texturing is my "thing") but I adore this mod and I'd be happy to help out with testing.

 

Further info on the Chastity Belt  / Spriggan crash -- If I console add the "spriggan host" and equip it, I get the chastity belt quest (zadQuest I think it is) and then CTD as before.

[Anurabis]

Why do i get iron cuffs from the spriggan event? O.o

[DeepBlueFrog]

Why do i get iron cuffs from the spriggan event? O.o

 

Were you defeated by a human infected with a spriggan armor? or by a pure spriggan?

 

Infected Humans will enslave you with iron cuffs like other humans.

Pure spriggans will give you the Flowering Spriggan quest.

[Anurabis]

 

Why do i get iron cuffs from the spriggan event? O.o

 

Were you defeated by a human infected with a spriggan armor? or by a pure spriggan?

 

Infected Humans will enslave you with iron cuffs like other humans.

Pure spriggans will give you the Flowering Spriggan quest.

 

I was defeated by a pure spriggan :/