Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Golgo13]

Can anyone please tell me exactly HOW to create one of those damned Papyrus logs so I can, at least, try to get my question answered?  I don't understand this part of the instructions (I don't possess the file, so, somehow, I need to create it-- the instructions are ludicrously lacking in that regard, at least for those of us who actually need to follow these damned instructions in order to understand what to do). 

 

Then, create a new file (unless it already exists) in the same directory called SkyrimCustom.ini (not SkyrimCustom.ini.txt) and do the same thing by pasting this on the bottom:

[Papyrus]
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation = 1

 

[http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/368/?]

 

HUH???

 

If my chronic migraine weren't killing me, it might be a little clearer.  But, I kind of doubt it.  After lying down for several hours in complete darkness, this doesn't make any more sense to me than it did several hours ago.  I don't think I'm going to figure this out without clearer instructions.

[Legi0n]

Can anyone please tell me exactly HOW to create one of those damned Papyrus logs so I can, at least, try to get my question answered?  I don't understand this part of the instructions (I don't possess the file, so, somehow, I need to create it-- the instructions are ludicrously lacking in that regard, at least for those of us who actually need to follow these damned instructions in order to understand what to do). 

 

Then, create a new file (unless it already exists) in the same directory called SkyrimCustom.ini (not SkyrimCustom.ini.txt) and do the same thing by pasting this on the bottom:

 

[Papyrus]

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation = 1

 

[http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/368/?]

 

HUH???

 

If my chronic migraine weren't killing me, it might be a little clearer.  But, I kind of doubt it.  After lying down for several hours in complete darkness, this doesn't make any more sense to me than it did several hours ago.  I don't think I'm going to figure this out without clearer instructions.

Go to Documents/My Documents/My Games/Skyrim and open the Skyrim (configuration settings) file.

 

Either it already says:

[Papyrus]

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

 

In which case you just change the zeros to ones.

 

Or if it says nothing at all of that sort, you simply copy-paste:

[Papyrus]

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

 

at the bottom of the document.

[Golgo13]

I found Skyrim.ini and made those changes, already.

 

But, I DON'T have a SkyrimCustom.ini, so there's nowhere for me to MAKE those changes; and those instructions aren't clear enough to me on how to properly create that type of file.

 

[Golgo13]

Btw, when your relationship with the Master/Mistress in Mistwatch improves, does a different set of animations kick in?  I noticed, in my previous game, that when my problems started, I received both the question about whether I wanted the sex scene to take place in the bed or not, and a message from the Master (it was male, the first time) about liking to hear the 'toon scream.

 

At the time, I wondered if the mod had become confused over whether it were running a sex or a whipping scene, and that's why it was crashing; or, perhaps, that's something else in the mod that kicks in when the relationship reaches that point, and I never got to find out what it was because of the CTD.

[Teddar]

I found Skyrim.ini and made those changes, already.

 

But, I DON'T have a SkyrimCustom.ini, so there's nowhere for me to MAKE those changes; and those instructions aren't clear enough to me on how to properly create that type of file.

 

You don't need the custom ini for this process. its the regular ini that you need. Just copy/paste those additional lines from the post above into your skyrim ini file and skyrim will begin to generate logs. Its the log with the "0" at the end which is the most recent I believe (once you get the logs to start generating).

 

For Win 7: Documents - Mygames - Skyrim - Logs - papyrus0.log

[Golgo13]

Thanks.

 

Those instructions on the Nexus site were, obviously, soooooo helpful.

 

* I was reacquainting myself with 14 months of changes in Sexout NG and its associated mods, and downloading them, while I was waiting for a reply; so I reactivated my migraine in a major way.  I'll have to get back to this after I take my medicine and lie down, again.  D'oh!

[DeepBlueFrog]

Btw, when your relationship with the Master/Mistress in Mistwatch improves, does a different set of animations kick in?  I noticed, in my previous game, that when my problems started, I received both the question about whether I wanted the sex scene to take place in the bed or not, and a message from the Master (it was male, the first time) about liking to hear the 'toon scream.

 

At the time, I wondered if the mod had become confused over whether it were running a sex or a whipping scene, and that's why it was crashing; or, perhaps, that's something else in the mod that kicks in when the relationship reaches that point, and I never got to find out what it was because of the CTD.

 

Can you also post your load order? (unless I missed it in a previous post).

 

The message about the bed is a normal message from SexLab. There is a bed in the master's room in Mistwatch so you are seeing the option to use it for the sex scene.

 

The comment about liking the player's screams doesn't ring a bell. I can't remember seeing that in SD so, either I forgot about that one or it is coming from another mod.

 

Another difference with Mistwatch is that it has a cage. 

 

Can you check out the in-game time when your CTDs happen? is it around midnight? or after waiting for a few hours and skipping over midnight?

 

That could indicate Skyrim trying to play the cage scene and failing for some reason.

[Golgo13]

No, it wasn't around Midnight... I definitely considered that.  It happened at all different times.  But, it didn't happen during the first few scenes, and it didn't happen if my 'toon was taking the route of just trying to piss off the Master/Mistress and get the relationship really horrible.  It only happened when the relationship had started to get pretty good.  Then, I started getting freezes and CTD's almost all of the time.  I kept restarting the game and playing a little while longer-- sometimes, instead of a sex scene, he'd ask to change the 'toon's appearance, or dance (and the sex after the dance didn't cause the problem).  But, eventually, I'd get that same result, and I'd freeze or crash, again.  I eventually figured out that it was ALWAYS going to happen, and just gave up.

 

In fact, when I'd gotten the relationship so bad that I got sent to Sanguine and he knocked my hit points down to one, I backed up to a previous save and did all of the "How can I please you?" stuff and had no freezes or crashes all of the way up to the point at which the Master was "pleased."  That's when I started getting the CTD's and game freezes, and I saw that message up at the top about liking to see my 'toon scream.  It was in the same location on the screen, and about the same size text, as the message about Sanguine taking you under his thumb.

 

* And, I know all about getting the option to use a bed in sex scenes whenever there's a bed nearby-- I just mentioned that because it made clear that there was definitely supposed to be a sex scene about to take place, even though I saw the message about the screaming.

 

** Oh, also, I don't have any other S&M-type mod going (unless prerequisites to this mod count); so, I can't imagine where else that screaming thing might have come from-- although, I'd be curious to hear anyone's ideas as to what other (stable) mods could generate such a thing... they might be interesting. 

[Golgo13]

This is my load order:

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
actorEvents.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
daymoyl.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1
Angelic_Demonic.esp=1
Devious Devices - Gags+.esp=1
Qasmoke Travel Spell.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1
GagSFX.esp=1
GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1
daedric_phelm.esp=1
SuccubusByNausicaa.esp=1
SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1
calyps-animal-ears.esp=1
GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1
DD - Interactions.esp=1
SexLab Enchantress.esp=1
zzEstrus.esp=1
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
AHZmoreHUD.esp=1
Devious Cidhna.esp=1
sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1
CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1
EstrusChaurus.esp=1
StarExpandedJewelry.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1
DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1
Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp=1
LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp=1
DraugrSkirts.esp=1
Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp=1
Marriable Serana.esp=1
Earrings Set1.esp=1
Devious Deviants.esp=1
Marriable Serana HF.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp=1
SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1
SDpatch - frostfall.esp=1
SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp=1
AngrimApprentice.esp=1
RingOFNighteye.esp=1
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1
Zarias_Piercings1.esp=1
SexLab Romance.esp=1
SkyrimBound.esp=1
shut up dogs.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
TradeBarter.esp=1
StreakerPerksNoReq_2013-05-29.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
zarias_restraints.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

 

 

LOOT generated the load order.  I wouldn't have made a few of those choices, like putting patches ahead of the mods they patch, but, I'm using LOOT because I'm supposed to be a dumbass.  I had to seek a lot of advice to use that; and, when I wasn't sure about whether or not to include some mod or patch, I asked someone's advice... again, because I'm a confessed dumbass (at least, where this stuff is concerned).

 

Where does the Papyrus log show up?  If one was generated, I can't find it.

[DeepBlueFrog]

This is my load order:

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

actorEvents.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1

Angelic_Demonic.esp=1

Devious Devices - Gags+.esp=1

Qasmoke Travel Spell.esp=1

NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

GagSFX.esp=1

GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1

daedric_phelm.esp=1

SuccubusByNausicaa.esp=1

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1

calyps-animal-ears.esp=1

GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1

DD - Interactions.esp=1

SexLab Enchantress.esp=1

zzEstrus.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

AHZmoreHUD.esp=1

Devious Cidhna.esp=1

sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1

CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

EstrusChaurus.esp=1

StarExpandedJewelry.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1

DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1

Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp=1

LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp=1

DraugrSkirts.esp=1

Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp=1

Marriable Serana.esp=1

Earrings Set1.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

Marriable Serana HF.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp=1

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1

SDpatch - frostfall.esp=1

SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp=1

AngrimApprentice.esp=1

RingOFNighteye.esp=1

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1

Zarias_Piercings1.esp=1

SexLab Romance.esp=1

SkyrimBound.esp=1

shut up dogs.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

TradeBarter.esp=1

StreakerPerksNoReq_2013-05-29.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

zarias_restraints.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

 

 

 

LOOT generated the load order.  I wouldn't have made a few of those choices, like putting patches ahead of the mods they patch, but, I'm using LOOT because I'm supposed to be a dumbass.

 

Where does the Papyrus log show up?  If one was generated, I can't find it.

 

From Teddar's post, For Win 7: Documents - Mygames - Skyrim - Logs - papyrus0.log

I don't know where it could be for Windows 8 but I imagine it is in a similar location.

 

Try moving SanguineDebauchery.esp  at the end of your load order in case some of its content is replaced by another mod.

I would also suggest to move all SDPatch addons after SanguineDebauchery.esp 

[GuardianofRoin]

what happened to the SD patch - Fixes.esp? Need it for another mod but cant find it in the download  page

[DeepBlueFrog]

what happened to the SD patch - Fixes.esp? Need it for another mod but cant find it in the download  page

 

I can't remember where that fix came from.

 

If it was the patch for Devious Device compatibility, you can safely ignore it.

[Golgo13]

Oops--

 

My bad luck with this mod prevails.

 

I noticed that changing my appearance seemed to be a possible cause of my problems.  But, just backing up to a previous save wasn't fixing the problem-- once I CTD-ed, I just kept CTD-ing.  So, I went all the way back to where I was being taken in to Mistwatch Keep, and was going to skip changing my appearance, completely, all the way through and see if that affected anything.

 

Well, as anyone who understands the mod better than I do already knows, that just hopelessly effed-up my game.  When I was delivered to the Mistress, it apparently started "Payback's a Bitch," but, it didn't permit any of the "Mistress" interactions.  When it comes to screwing up this mod, I'm KING.

 

Since I was only level five, I started a new game.  So, it will be a little while before I can run the tests, again.  ARGH! 

[CliftonJD]

A taste of things to come in the next version of SD+.

 

I don't know yet if I will be able to release it by Halloween but it will be released soon. 

 

Things are progressing nicely. There is just a lot to add, test and fix.

 

A note about the crawling position - it will be only a static pose for now, like kneeling. Making it a fully animated crawling animation will take a lot more time and may come later.

 

those screenshots look great

what happened to the SD patch - Fixes.esp? Need it for another mod but cant find it in the download  page

look on the sd+ patches page made by another modder for that, But that might also be the source for the new dialog changes that skyrimill noticed that seem to happen prior to your ctd's

[DeepBlueFrog]

Another taste of what's coming.

 

From today's update on the 2nd post of this thread:

 

- Added: New escape system centered on the collar.

:: If your master has you in Leash mode, running away will strangle you slowly, making the screen darker and darker the further you go. That mode is based on a distance, so running too far will teleport you back to your master with a beating waiting for you.

:: If your master trusts you enough to give you free rein, running away will be based on a timer. Small vibrations and tingling from the collar will remind you that the timer is on. Waiting too long will activate random shocks that will hurt you until you actually escape, or you return to your master. The harmful shocks will continue until your master is dead, you find a new master or find a way to free yourself from slavery (topic 'can you help me get away from my owner?').

 

No screenshot for this one but it will hopefully make escaping a more interesting situation than it is today.

[Content Consumer]

 

There is a crawl animation available on the nexus : http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33097/?

 

I know

 

I used the static part of that animation for the crawling pose.

 

This mod is a replacer for the Sneak animation. Replacing animation files is easy.

The hard part of turning crawling on and off is that i can't just replace the files. 

I will have to listen to movement keys and play the corresponding crawling animations instead of the regular ones.

 

That will require more research and testing if that is possible at all.

 

I wonder if looking at how this mod does it might help:

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/893-play-random-idle/

If it can change the standing idle randomly, then maybe something similar could change the sneak idle?

[GuardianofRoin]

 

what happened to the SD patch - Fixes.esp? Need it for another mod but cant find it in the download  page

 

I can't remember where that fix came from.

 

If it was the patch for Devious Device compatibility, you can safely ignore it.

 

Ah, found the problem. The mod I was having issues with was DD for him. Saw the SD+ patch and figured it was needed for compatibility.If it is now compatible then no worries.

[lightling]

There is  something strange in my game.

I have SDpatch-frostfall.esp checked, and I have chesko_frostfall.esp.

 

In old version of SD( not SD+), the master will use cages to punish player, but now the master only whip the player, no cages or other things,  and the player always stand up, no other poses.

 

Do I have something wrong?

 

[Zydar]

There is  something strange in my game.

I have SDpatch-frostfall.esp checked, and I have chesko_frostfall.esp.

 

In old version of SD( not SD+), the master will use cages to punish player, but now the master only whip the player, no cages or other things,  and the player always stand up, no other poses.

 

Do I have something wrong?

 

They are currently not implemented at the moment as SD+ is being fixed from the ground up. I believe SD Patches are trying to restore kneeling and cage punishment but I am not sure if Skyrimll will add it to SD+ soon.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

There is  something strange in my game.

I have SDpatch-frostfall.esp checked, and I have chesko_frostfall.esp.

 

In old version of SD( not SD+), the master will use cages to punish player, but now the master only whip the player, no cages or other things,  and the player always stand up, no other poses.

 

Do I have something wrong?

 

They are currently not implemented at the moment as SD+ is being fixed from the ground up. I believe SD Patches are trying to restore kneeling and cage punishment but I am not sure if Skyrimll will add it to SD+ soon.

 

 

Kneeling will work in the next version for sure.

 

I am trying to add fixes from SD Patches (including for cages), but I haven't tested cages yet so I can't tell if it will work with the next version yet.

[lightling]

Hi skyrimll, this is my idea,

we have too less type of events in dream world now.

For me, it is boring to goto dream world(most time, I just do meanless dialogue in dream world).

May be you can change the dream world to a slave market, player will be trained to be a slave in dream world(now we already have torture tools in dream world, make them useful), after one or two days, player will be sold to a random npc.

that means, when the player get into the dream world, the master will uses the torture tools to train player; when the player leave the dream world, player will be enslaved by a ramdom npc(sold by the master)

[shadow866]

Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life is in 6.0 Beta test phase. Wonder if it will work with the new version of SD+

[kaylee]

Hi there again, im having an issue with the screen log in the top left of the screen, srolling through and jamming up the log endlessly is "SD DA dreamworld death failed: time out" "SD DA dreamworld death: teleport anyway" was wondering i there was any solution to this or what the cause is, i have un-installed, re-installed and used it across multiple saves and cant seem to get it to stop.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi there again, im having an issue with the screen log in the top left of the screen, srolling through and jamming up the log endlessly is "SD DA dreamworld death failed: time out" "SD DA dreamworld death: teleport anyway" was wondering i there was any solution to this or what the cause is, i have un-installed, re-installed and used it across multiple saves and cant seem to get it to stop.

 

That means something is preventing you from teleporting to Dreamworld.

 

Did you go there before in that save game?

 

Can you take a look at your error log for references to dreamworld? There could be some useful errors around them.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life is in 6.0 Beta test phase. Wonder if it will work with the new version of SD+

 

I haven't tested it yet. I will try that after the next release of SD+ to avoid any complications.

 

Edit: I took a look at the release notes for the next version and it seems fairly safe to install on top of the current version. I will check that out myself next month.