Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[DeepBlueFrog]

Can someone help me with this texture problem?

 

When my character gets slaved, they make her wear a collar and cuffs.... The cuffs, however, are without texture.

 

I found out the the cuffs are located at \meshes\bondage\rustywristshackles_#.nif

 

Opening the mesh on Nifskope showed me the textures are from.

\Textures\ZaZ\001Metal\MetalRedRust01.dds

 

I have the texture files at that exact location... in fact, the mesh loaded on Nifskope appears with the texture.

 

Why in hell is my skyrim not loading the textures for the cuffs?

 

Thanks in advance

 

The latest version of Zaz Animation Pack comes with a texture package you have to download separately

[enkephalin07]

If the SDDeath event were 100% likely for the first death after installing, that would be a certain way to kick off the intro to the mod. I still haven't seen that yet because almost every time I've been defeated, some bleedout or blackout event took precedence. However, my last defeat, my companions were all down and the killing blow knocked me off a cliff, into a river which slammed me into a few rocks before dropping me to the bottom of a deep pool.

 

This seems like certain death conditions to me, but I just hung out there in bleedout. The surrender key didn't get me anything but the usual rejection messages. btw, I've never gotten any result from that in any situation I've ever used it, purposely or accidentally.

 

EDIT: Tried jumping off a higher cliff, hit a ledge hard enough to enter bleedout, stumbled the rest of the way, ragdolled on impact at the bottom, then last quicksave automatically loaded. I tried to reinstall, and after the 'preparing to uninstall' message, I was transported to Dreamworld. Stripped, bound, collared, half my possessions taken, and after getting an Alicia to free my hands, no one had any particular dialog. Left and waited twice in Haelga's bunkhouse before the install completed, leaving behind all Sanguine's devices, but none of the equipment taken away.

[Golgo13]

So, my Papyrus log didn't show anything?

[Avarus]

So, I've given SD+ after ages. Installed as per instructions and started with a clean save. And then, weirdness ensued xD All attacks immediately result in a 'you are pinned to the ground' message, even though I barely lost any health (not using any mods that affect combat). After that the enslavement happens without any of the bindings or kneeling animations (Pretty sure that something is wrong with all non-sexlab animations, which do play correctly). Anyone any ideas what I did wrong/what I need to do to fix it?

[Lucy in the Sky]

 

Can someone help me with this texture problem?

 

When my character gets slaved, they make her wear a collar and cuffs.... The cuffs, however, are without texture.

 

I found out the the cuffs are located at \meshes\bondage\rustywristshackles_#.nif

 

Opening the mesh on Nifskope showed me the textures are from.

\Textures\ZaZ\001Metal\MetalRedRust01.dds

 

I have the texture files at that exact location... in fact, the mesh loaded on Nifskope appears with the texture.

 

Why in hell is my skyrim not loading the textures for the cuffs?

 

Thanks in advance

 

The latest version of Zaz Animation Pack comes with a texture package you have to download separately

 

 

Hey there, thanks for the reply.

 

But I already have that texture pack.  Like I said, on Nifskope everything looks fine... the textures appear on the cuffs.

 

It's just in-game that the textures aren't appearing.

 

Any idea on what can be causing this?

 

It's only the hand cuffs that are purple...  (the collar, for example, has the textures working just fine)

 

[BAB PEEG]

So, I've given SD+ after ages. Installed as per instructions and started with a clean save. And then, weirdness ensued xD All attacks immediately result in a 'you are pinned to the ground' message, even though I barely lost any health (not using any mods that affect combat). After that the enslavement happens without any of the bindings or kneeling animations (Pretty sure that something is wrong with all non-sexlab animations, which do play correctly). Anyone any ideas what I did wrong/what I need to do to fix it?

 

I got that too, no idea how to fix it.

[CliftonJD]

I FINALLY got to a point at which my 'toon was captured by thugs (she had to stand there, naked, for five minutes while they beat on her without her fighting back, or-- needless to say-- using any healing spells). 

 

At first, I couldn't understand what I was doing wrong/why the log couldn't be found anywhere on my computer-- then, I noticed that the log isn't always created on the first try.

 

My game frequently either freezes or crashes during sex scenes.  I started using the bed every time when I noticed that that seemed to help with the crashes a tiny bit.  But, that could have just been my own perception.

 

Anyway, I'll attach the Papyrus log that was so hard for me to create (because I'm such a dumbass).

 

* I'm also attaching the Papyrus log from the next failure, which was a freeze, rather than a crash.

 

 

** I can't do ANYTHING with my game, now.  As soon as SD+ brings up a sex scene, the game freezes.  I need to ctrl+alt+del just to terminate it and get control of my computer back.  To play Skyrim, I'd have to reload a save prior to being captured, since there's no way to complete the mod as things are.  Based on my previous experiences, I'm pretty sure that I'd permanently screw-up SD+ if I just tried rolling back to a save prior to being captured.  So, I'm stuck.  Unless someone can tell me how to fix this game, Idk what to do until the next version of SD+ comes out, and I start a new game.  *Sigh*

 

*** In case I'm getting no reply, now, because I mentioned this in my original post but not in the instant one, the ONLY time I'm encountering these irresolvable crashes/freezes during sex scenes is during enslavement at Mistwatch.  No other sex scene causes the problem; not even any other sex scene during an enslavement scenario.  It happens ONLY during the thug quest at Mistwatch. 

ok ya, i don't get on here much to check for issues, but i do recognize some massive issues with actor events in that log

the following error is repetitive in your log for page after page:

 

Error: Element of property monitoredEffect on script _ae_framework attached to _ae_base (0A000D65) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (0) on <NULL quest> (00000000) is not the right type

[11/02/2014 - 03:32:36PM] Error: Element of property monitoredEffect on script _ae_framework attached to _ae_base (0A000D65) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (0) on <NULL quest> (00000000) is not the right type

 

 

i've seen that issue before, but i was never able to find a good fix for it

it you're using sexlab chaurus extension uninstall it and reinstall then see if that fixes it, if the issue still persists then try uninstall both mods and re-install (also uninstall the chaurus expansion if you're using it)

 

 

shaved hair is only a good idea if there is an easy way other than showracemenu to bring the old hair back. it should be optional in mcm anyway.

 

i have another point :

2044 still has zaz items instead of devious devices. still handcuffs and text sais about armbinders.  is that correct or do i have a bug ?

 

to understand why i am back to sd+ 2044. i had and still have the problem with ddexp 1.3 and 1.4 that the cusomized harness is invisible. no matter which Slot i put it in. i dont want to prevent devices from trigger animations, and all harnesses do that, except the customed one. but now i killed all harnesses and gags in ck, permit them all kind of sex.

so i can use dddexp 1.4 and sd 2044.

 

with ddexp 1.11 and sd 2044 i had a couple of Problems, like sd+ breaking the horny Animation from ddplugs. that does not happen with ddexp 1.11 and sd+2.03 and also not with ddexp 1.4 and sd+2044.  also some mods like deviously helpless react to the mix colour of dd and make them choosable. so i am quite happy with the way, how mods progress in this area.

 

The next version of SD is already compatible with Deviously Helpless.

Min himself has added code to fix some issues with SD breaking some of DD animations.

 

I can't guarantee compatibility with DD extension because I don't want to add another requirement to an already long list of required mods for SD.

 

 

maybe after the next update's released coded for dd compatibility have it checked for expansion issues and work up a patch for those people

 

 

 

 

So, I've given SD+ after ages. Installed as per instructions and started with a clean save. And then, weirdness ensued xD All attacks immediately result in a 'you are pinned to the ground' message, even though I barely lost any health (not using any mods that affect combat). After that the enslavement happens without any of the bindings or kneeling animations (Pretty sure that something is wrong with all non-sexlab animations, which do play correctly). Anyone any ideas what I did wrong/what I need to do to fix it?

 

I got that too, no idea how to fix it.

 

So, I've given SD+ after ages. Installed as per instructions and started with a clean save. And then, weirdness ensued xD All attacks immediately result in a 'you are pinned to the ground' message, even though I barely lost any health (not using any mods that affect combat). After that the enslavement happens without any of the bindings or kneeling animations (Pretty sure that something is wrong with all non-sexlab animations, which do play correctly). Anyone any ideas what I did wrong/what I need to do to fix it?

 

rephrase those issues

"you are pinned to the ground" message i've never seen so unless somebody has that message and the game works for them it sounds like a mod conflict

, the end result is something i've seen happen before from a different mod with out any known fix, the current save is screwed

if its a clean save, check the pre-requisites section and check they're up-to-date, but don't use daymoyl 6 yet, its untested and may hold the issue

 

 

Edited November 5, 2014 by CliftonJD

[Kendansa]

Because I'm a creation kit noob, could anyone give me a step-by-step walkthrough on how to add/replace custom slave clothes for this mod?  The MCM instructions seemed a bit vague--I couldn't even find the slave clothes meshes because I couldn't find the folder they were in.

[Golgo13]

@ CliftonJD

 

Thank you very much for the reply!

 

When you say:

 

"i've seen that issue before, but i was never able to find a good fix for it

it you're using sexlab chaurus extension uninstall it and reinstall then see if that fixes it, if the issue still persists then try uninstall both mods and re-install (also uninstall the chaurus expansion if you're using it)..."

 

...what are the two mods you are telling me to uninstall/reinstall at the same time I am uninstalling Sexlab Chaurus?  I'm afraid to ask: is one of them SD+?  I've had bad experiences trying to uninstall that one, unless I don't need a clean (re)install. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

@ CliftonJD

 

Thank you very much for the reply!

 

When you say:

 

"i've seen that issue before, but i was never able to find a good fix for it

it you're using sexlab chaurus extension uninstall it and reinstall then see if that fixes it, if the issue still persists then try uninstall both mods and re-install (also uninstall the chaurus expansion if you're using it)..."

 

...what are the two mods you are telling me to uninstall/reinstall at the same time I am uninstalling Sexlab Chaurus?  I'm afraid to ask: is one of them SD+?  I've had bad experiences trying to uninstall that one, unless I don't need a clean (re)install. 

 

CliftonJD meant uninstall and reinstall Actor Events and Estrus Chaurus.

[enkephalin07]

There's a character in Interesting NPC's who I thought was part of this mod. There's a dremora named Davros who managed to get freedom on Mundus defected from Mehrunes Dagon to follow Sanguine, and holds an endless party at the top of one of the watchtowers. Later I came across an inept witch who got her only summoning spell from a guy named Sam, a dremora who turns out to be Davros, and you can learn to summon him yourself. He's too mellow to fight, he's essentially just a cheerleader who makes a great decoy and soaks up a lot of damage without complaint.

[DeepBlueFrog]

There's a character in Interesting NPC's who I thought was part of this mod. There's a dremora named Davros who managed to get freedom on Mundus defected from Mehrunes Dagon to follow Sanguine, and holds an endless party at the top of one of the watchtowers. Later I came across an inept witch who got her only summoning spell from a guy named Sam, a dremora who turns out to be Davros, and you can learn to summon him yourself. He's too mellow to fight, he's essentially just a cheerleader who makes a great decoy and soaks up a lot of damage without complaint.

 

Thanks for the reminders.... it would be good to add a reference for that 'good for nothing Davros' somewhere in Sanguine's dialogues in Dreamworld

[enkephalin07]

 

Thanks for the reminders.... it would be good to add a reference for that 'good for nothing Davros' somewhere in Sanguine's dialogues in Dreamworld

 

I summoned him in the temple and got a lot of generic responses. "That magic looks dangerous -- keep it away from me!" The sisters are trained to see beauty in everything, and it takes all kinds, so surely at least one would find him less disturbing than intriguing.

 

It seems to me the Dibella/Sanguine dichotomy would have a fair degree of nuance to explore, that it's more dynamic than a (not-quite-unwilling) conflict.

[CliftonJD]

 

@ CliftonJD

 

Thank you very much for the reply!

 

When you say:

 

"i've seen that issue before, but i was never able to find a good fix for it

it you're using sexlab chaurus extension uninstall it and reinstall then see if that fixes it, if the issue still persists then try uninstall both mods and re-install (also uninstall the chaurus expansion if you're using it)..."

 

...what are the two mods you are telling me to uninstall/reinstall at the same time I am uninstalling Sexlab Chaurus?  I'm afraid to ask: is one of them SD+?  I've had bad experiences trying to uninstall that one, unless I don't need a clean (re)install. 

 

CliftonJD meant uninstall and reinstall Actor Events and Estrus Chaurus.

 

yep that's the mods i meant, thanks

[Kendansa]

Because I'm a creation kit noob, could anyone give me a step-by-step walkthrough on how to add/replace custom slave clothes for this mod?  The MCM instructions seemed a bit vague--I couldn't even find the slave clothes meshes because I couldn't find the folder they were in.

 

Please?

[cyrax878]

could someone tell me how exactly the spriggan quest is supposed to turn me into a flowering spriggan? ive tried not finishing the quest and having sex with all manner of things, doing the quest repeatedly, all to no avail.

 

all i currently get is, once the quest starts, aka when i get knocked out by a spriggan, i get the hands and feet and thats all i ever get, if i finish the quest the hands and feet dissappear from my inventory but the hands stay on my character, upon restarting the quest again by losing to another spriggan, i get the feet to my inventory but no hands (same kind of a bug tends to happen a damn lot to me with the gags aswell, i get rid of the gag but it still shows on my character) 

 

i shouldnt have anything that would conflict with the mod atleast that i know of.

[ceroshiro]

So, If I wanted to change the custom slave clothes... Would I be able to use an existing clothing mod?

[enkephalin07]

 

Because I'm a creation kit noob, could anyone give me a step-by-step walkthrough on how to add/replace custom slave clothes for this mod?  The MCM instructions seemed a bit vague--I couldn't even find the slave clothes meshes because I couldn't find the folder they were in.

 

So, If I wanted to change the custom slave clothes... Would I be able to use an existing clothing mod?

If you look at the file structure of CT77_SD+_Slave_Outfit_(bodyslide).7z on the download page, that shows the file structure of where your outfit meshes and textures should be placed, renaming the files that are there. If you don't use Bodyslide, then it would just be one mesh file, named the same as the texture file. You can use any outfit from anywhere, as long as you know where it is to copy it from.

[CliftonJD]

could someone tell me how exactly the spriggan quest is supposed to turn me into a flowering spriggan? ive tried not finishing the quest and having sex with all manner of things, doing the quest repeatedly, all to no avail.

 

all i currently get is, once the quest starts, aka when i get knocked out by a spriggan, i get the hands and feet and thats all i ever get, if i finish the quest the hands and feet dissappear from my inventory but the hands stay on my character, upon restarting the quest again by losing to another spriggan, i get the feet to my inventory but no hands (same kind of a bug tends to happen a damn lot to me with the gags aswell, i get rid of the gag but it still shows on my character) 

 

i shouldnt have anything that would conflict with the mod atleast that i know of.

the spriggan issue not getting the chest piece on this release i was under the belief this was a chastity issue, are you wearing a chastity belt when you get killed by the spriggan and grow rootlets starting the quest

also if you're having this issue with gags do you appear to be wearing a gag when the spriggan quest starts

as for the gag appearing after its removed, would suggest putting it in a barrel for it to reset bak to you character to reset the scripts before removal

 

after removal of any devices if they still appear on the character, it requires console codes i don't have, you'll have to ask around here or main dd thread for those codes until the next update is releasd

[ceroshiro]

This is an afterthought, but it would be nice to have a way to control the master's mood.... say they're sadistic, or easygoing, like that, kind of like a difficulty setting. Also, I kind of wish there was a better animation for the whipping but  I understand that modding is difficult  

[DeepBlueFrog]

This is an afterthought, but it would be nice to have a way to control the master's mood.... say they're sadistic, or easygoing, like that, kind of like a difficulty setting. Also, I kind of wish there was a better animation for the whipping but I understand that modding is difficult

Master mood and personality type are already in the next version

 

(It's a random selection for now).

[Wyrade]

Hi,

 

Just to check, when a spriggan/flowering spriggan defeats me and the flowerin spriggan quest starts, i should get four spriggan host items equipped and locked, right?

I remain nude with no equips, so i'm interested if it's how it should work, or i messed up something somewhere and should look for a solution.

 

Thanks for the answer in advance!

[Golgo13]

 

 

@ CliftonJD

 

Thank you very much for the reply!

 

When you say:

 

"i've seen that issue before, but i was never able to find a good fix for it

it you're using sexlab chaurus extension uninstall it and reinstall then see if that fixes it, if the issue still persists then try uninstall both mods and re-install (also uninstall the chaurus expansion if you're using it)..."

 

...what are the two mods you are telling me to uninstall/reinstall at the same time I am uninstalling Sexlab Chaurus?  I'm afraid to ask: is one of them SD+?  I've had bad experiences trying to uninstall that one, unless I don't need a clean (re)install. 

 

CliftonJD meant uninstall and reinstall Actor Events and Estrus Chaurus.

 

yep that's the mods i meant, thanks

 

 

Ok, I might have an interesting Papyrus crash log (I have no real way of understanding, though...).

 

First, I simply uninstalled Estrus Chaurus, since I didn't know what else I was supposed to do.  That knocked my sex scene crashes/freezes down from 100% to about 50%.  Then, I read here that the other thing involved was Actor Events.  I simply uninstalled that, too, since I wasn't reinstalling Chaurus.-- I wanted to give SD+ its best shot at survival.

 

That seemed to improve things even more; but, I still had a freeze.  That's when I decided to create this Papyrus log.

 

Interestingly enough, just before the sex scene inspiring this CTD was supposed to begin (just like the other time I received the same message), I received the following message for only the second time, ever, since I've played this game: "Nothing would please me more than to hear your screams."

 

Incidentally, both times, that happened during the phase of enslavement during which the 'toon is saying, "I'll do anything if you'll let me go," instead of, "What must I do to please you?" in case that matters.

 

Even I can see in the Papyrus log that there's stuff in there that seems to refer to Chaurus, even though that's supposed to be uninstalled.  During uninstallation, when Chaurus said, "Give me a few minutes to clean up," I looked at the clock, fixed myself something to eat, picked out a new DVD to put in the Blu-Ray player, then checked the clock, again; five RL minutes had transpired.  I wasn't given a specific number of minutes to wait, or told that I'd be given a notice that the cleanup had been completed; so, I saved, exited, and proceeded with the uninstall.  If I screwed up somewhere in there, that's what I did, and I need instructions on how to fix it.  There were infertile eggs in the world created by the mod which should have vanished when the mod was uninstalled... perhaps they never did.

 

While I'm waiting for a reply, I suppose I'll try reinstalling Actor Events and Chaurus to see if that helps... I hope that it doesn't just cause more damage.

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi,

 

Just to check, when a spriggan/flowering spriggan defeats me and the flowerin spriggan quest starts, i should get four spriggan host items equipped and locked, right?

I remain nude with no equips, so i'm interested if it's how it should work, or i messed up something somewhere and should look for a solution.

 

Thanks for the answer in advance!

 

You should start with only hands and feet.

The rest of the spriggan armor will 'grow' after a while if you are not wearing a collar/harness and circlet.

[Jayleia]

 

 

While I'm waiting for a reply, I suppose I'll try reinstalling Actor Events and Chaurus to see if that helps... I hope that it doesn't just cause more damage.

Run something like save game script cleaner or PDTWrapper on the savegame after you've uninstalled...well, anything with scripts.  Sometimes scripts get started that don't stop so there's probably some leftover scripts running (you'd think uninstalling a mod would...uninstall it...but no, because Skyrim)