Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[jfraser]

 

Another (unrelated Issue) is with Zaz, it starts a Gaged dialog when im gaged and trying to talk with someone. as much fun as that might be, it actually breaks a lot of other mods and I didnt find a way to deactivate that feature... any advice?

That's not ZAZ, that's Sexlab's new integrated gag speech. All ZAZ does with gags is allow you to say, "Mmmph!" out loud.

 

I know you posted many of your mods, but do you have estrus charous?

[CliftonJD]

 

Hey, just wanna say I really loved SD and am excited to try SD+.

 

I installed everything, i believe correctly, and ran FNIS, and it said it worked fine.

Started up fine, and got myself enslaved to some bandits. The placed armbinders and cuffs on me.

I asked my Master to remove the arm binders, and she said she would, but the arm binders weren't removed.

I escaped and asked some other people, including Lydia, who was my follower, to free me, and people agreed to,

but the binders weren't removed.

 

Finally, I tried the "struggle" option and the "take it off" option, and both claimed I had freed myself

from the binders, but for some reason I'm still in them no matter how many times I try.

 

What could be causing this? Could load order impact this? Is there a console command I can use to free myself

as a temporary fix? I enjoy SD+, but this problem is making the mod unplayable

 

Thank you in advance for any help, and keep up the good work!

 

there's a console command for that, but i don't know it, don't remember the command i saw posted, refer to devious devices integration on that, another idea is to put the item in a barrel and let it bounce back or if it doesn't bounce back take it back (this resets the scripts to default) and yes the barrel seems to work better than most other containers, probably due to its random nature by skyrim (its designed to steal items left too long)

 

 

Another (unrelated Issue) is with Zaz, it starts a Gaged dialog when im gaged and trying to talk with someone. as much fun as that might be, it actually breaks a lot of other mods and I didnt find a way to deactivate that feature... any advice?

That's not ZAZ, that's Sexlab's new integrated gag speech. All ZAZ does with gags is allow you to say, "Mmmph!" out loud.

 

I know you posted many of your mods, but do you have estrus charous?

 

Actually i'm more concerned with the choice of estrus from nexus, the estrusutility.dll file loaded by that mod can cause Many bugs or conflicts with other mods or animations, the estrus chaurus mod you mention has a repack posted that avoids the need for the original estrus mod and leaves a much cleaner papyrus log

[jfraser]

 

 

Hey, just wanna say I really loved SD and am excited to try SD+.

 

I installed everything, i believe correctly, and ran FNIS, and it said it worked fine.

Started up fine, and got myself enslaved to some bandits. The placed armbinders and cuffs on me.

I asked my Master to remove the arm binders, and she said she would, but the arm binders weren't removed.

I escaped and asked some other people, including Lydia, who was my follower, to free me, and people agreed to,

but the binders weren't removed.

 

Finally, I tried the "struggle" option and the "take it off" option, and both claimed I had freed myself

from the binders, but for some reason I'm still in them no matter how many times I try.

 

What could be causing this? Could load order impact this? Is there a console command I can use to free myself

as a temporary fix? I enjoy SD+, but this problem is making the mod unplayable

 

Thank you in advance for any help, and keep up the good work!

 

there's a console command for that, but i don't know it, don't remember the command i saw posted, refer to devious devices integration on that, another idea is to put the item in a barrel and let it bounce back or if it doesn't bounce back take it back (this resets the scripts to default) and yes the barrel seems to work better than most other containers, probably due to its random nature by skyrim (its designed to steal items left too long)

 

 

Another (unrelated Issue) is with Zaz, it starts a Gaged dialog when im gaged and trying to talk with someone. as much fun as that might be, it actually breaks a lot of other mods and I didnt find a way to deactivate that feature... any advice?

That's not ZAZ, that's Sexlab's new integrated gag speech. All ZAZ does with gags is allow you to say, "Mmmph!" out loud.

 

I know you posted many of your mods, but do you have estrus charous?

 

Actually i'm more concerned with the choice of estrus from nexus, the estrusutility.dll file loaded by that mod can cause Many bugs or conflicts with other mods or animations, the estrus chaurus mod you mention has a repack posted that avoids the need for the original estrus mod and leaves a much cleaner papyrus log

 

 

It does? My understanding is that estrus chaurus (and, more specifically, the Actor Events requirement for EC) are to blame for a great many issues, which is why I asked about it. I didn't know of an EC that does not require estrus.

[Content Consumer]

 

 

 

Hey, just wanna say I really loved SD and am excited to try SD+.

 

I installed everything, i believe correctly, and ran FNIS, and it said it worked fine.

Started up fine, and got myself enslaved to some bandits. The placed armbinders and cuffs on me.

I asked my Master to remove the arm binders, and she said she would, but the arm binders weren't removed.

I escaped and asked some other people, including Lydia, who was my follower, to free me, and people agreed to,

but the binders weren't removed.

 

Finally, I tried the "struggle" option and the "take it off" option, and both claimed I had freed myself

from the binders, but for some reason I'm still in them no matter how many times I try.

 

What could be causing this? Could load order impact this? Is there a console command I can use to free myself

as a temporary fix? I enjoy SD+, but this problem is making the mod unplayable

 

Thank you in advance for any help, and keep up the good work!

 

there's a console command for that, but i don't know it, don't remember the command i saw posted, refer to devious devices integration on that, another idea is to put the item in a barrel and let it bounce back or if it doesn't bounce back take it back (this resets the scripts to default) and yes the barrel seems to work better than most other containers, probably due to its random nature by skyrim (its designed to steal items left too long)

 

 

Another (unrelated Issue) is with Zaz, it starts a Gaged dialog when im gaged and trying to talk with someone. as much fun as that might be, it actually breaks a lot of other mods and I didnt find a way to deactivate that feature... any advice?

That's not ZAZ, that's Sexlab's new integrated gag speech. All ZAZ does with gags is allow you to say, "Mmmph!" out loud.

 

I know you posted many of your mods, but do you have estrus charous?

 

Actually i'm more concerned with the choice of estrus from nexus, the estrusutility.dll file loaded by that mod can cause Many bugs or conflicts with other mods or animations, the estrus chaurus mod you mention has a repack posted that avoids the need for the original estrus mod and leaves a much cleaner papyrus log

 

 

It does? My understanding is that estrus chaurus (and, more specifically, the Actor Events requirement for EC) are to blame for a great many issues, which is why I asked about it. I didn't know of an EC that does not require estrus.

 

I was under the impression that Estrus Chaurus needed the animations from Estrus, but Estrus didn't actually need to be active in the load order.

[galgat]

 

I was under the impression that Estrus Chaurus needed the animations from Estrus, but Estrus didn't actually need to be active in the load order.

 

 

 

 

That is correct, or it was for me. You needed some things that the Estrus mod has in its folder's, but it does not have to be active, I have not played it in awhile, but I am pretty sure that is correct..

 

However if active which I would not allow, some of the Estrus animations will run or be use at times, I love Cotyounoyumes stuff, but I would never run it on a save that I cared about.

[CliftonJD]

 

 

 

Hey, just wanna say I really loved SD and am excited to try SD+.

 

I installed everything, i believe correctly, and ran FNIS, and it said it worked fine.

Started up fine, and got myself enslaved to some bandits. The placed armbinders and cuffs on me.

I asked my Master to remove the arm binders, and she said she would, but the arm binders weren't removed.

I escaped and asked some other people, including Lydia, who was my follower, to free me, and people agreed to,

but the binders weren't removed.

 

Finally, I tried the "struggle" option and the "take it off" option, and both claimed I had freed myself

from the binders, but for some reason I'm still in them no matter how many times I try.

 

What could be causing this? Could load order impact this? Is there a console command I can use to free myself

as a temporary fix? I enjoy SD+, but this problem is making the mod unplayable

 

Thank you in advance for any help, and keep up the good work!

 

there's a console command for that, but i don't know it, don't remember the command i saw posted, refer to devious devices integration on that, another idea is to put the item in a barrel and let it bounce back or if it doesn't bounce back take it back (this resets the scripts to default) and yes the barrel seems to work better than most other containers, probably due to its random nature by skyrim (its designed to steal items left too long)

 

 

Another (unrelated Issue) is with Zaz, it starts a Gaged dialog when im gaged and trying to talk with someone. as much fun as that might be, it actually breaks a lot of other mods and I didnt find a way to deactivate that feature... any advice?

That's not ZAZ, that's Sexlab's new integrated gag speech. All ZAZ does with gags is allow you to say, "Mmmph!" out loud.

 

I know you posted many of your mods, but do you have estrus charous?

 

Actually i'm more concerned with the choice of estrus from nexus, the estrusutility.dll file loaded by that mod can cause Many bugs or conflicts with other mods or animations, the estrus chaurus mod you mention has a repack posted that avoids the need for the original estrus mod and leaves a much cleaner papyrus log

 

 

It does? My understanding is that estrus chaurus (and, more specifically, the Actor Events requirement for EC) are to blame for a great many issues, which is why I asked about it. I didn't know of an EC that does not require estrus.

 

 

edit: the actor events don't become an issue until you have a number of actors being called by the mod, would need to add the estrus chaurus expansion beta for that, the expansion works fine using the newest version, but beta the author was testing some things and made a mod that could cause chaurus-pocalypse, "wonder why the dwarves needed the falmer ears" (or something to that extent it quotes in the random load screens)

 

 

 

 

Hey, just wanna say I really loved SD and am excited to try SD+.

 

I installed everything, i believe correctly, and ran FNIS, and it said it worked fine.

Started up fine, and got myself enslaved to some bandits. The placed armbinders and cuffs on me.

I asked my Master to remove the arm binders, and she said she would, but the arm binders weren't removed.

I escaped and asked some other people, including Lydia, who was my follower, to free me, and people agreed to,

but the binders weren't removed.

 

Finally, I tried the "struggle" option and the "take it off" option, and both claimed I had freed myself

from the binders, but for some reason I'm still in them no matter how many times I try.

 

What could be causing this? Could load order impact this? Is there a console command I can use to free myself

as a temporary fix? I enjoy SD+, but this problem is making the mod unplayable

 

Thank you in advance for any help, and keep up the good work!

 

there's a console command for that, but i don't know it, don't remember the command i saw posted, refer to devious devices integration on that, another idea is to put the item in a barrel and let it bounce back or if it doesn't bounce back take it back (this resets the scripts to default) and yes the barrel seems to work better than most other containers, probably due to its random nature by skyrim (its designed to steal items left too long)

 

 

Another (unrelated Issue) is with Zaz, it starts a Gaged dialog when im gaged and trying to talk with someone. as much fun as that might be, it actually breaks a lot of other mods and I didnt find a way to deactivate that feature... any advice?

That's not ZAZ, that's Sexlab's new integrated gag speech. All ZAZ does with gags is allow you to say, "Mmmph!" out loud.

 

I know you posted many of your mods, but do you have estrus charous?

 

Actually i'm more concerned with the choice of estrus from nexus, the estrusutility.dll file loaded by that mod can cause Many bugs or conflicts with other mods or animations, the estrus chaurus mod you mention has a repack posted that avoids the need for the original estrus mod and leaves a much cleaner papyrus log

 

 

It does? My understanding is that estrus chaurus (and, more specifically, the Actor Events requirement for EC) are to blame for a great many issues, which is why I asked about it. I didn't know of an EC that does not require estrus.

 

I was under the impression that Estrus Chaurus needed the animations from Estrus, but Estrus didn't actually need to be active in the load order.

 

Both are correct, that's why there's a repack on min's page towards the end of the support topic (i'd link it, but lost my favorites in a recent drive crash)

"don't need the estrus mod in the load order", that unfortunately leaves the estrus utility in the scripts, without the repacked scripts to call the animations with

Edited September 18, 2014 by CliftonJD

[ssdd2014]

Can anyone tell me why is dd_restrained not working with sd for me? I have tried to move it up and down in load order with no avail. I have all the latest updates of dd and sd+. Also, dd_restrained is appearing in the mcm menu just fine, but the 'mmph..' dialogue never triggers...

 

I have tried re-installing, starting new game. I don't know wy the scripts are not triggering!

is the mod not working at all Or just not working with certain npc's such as sanguine or master or other dreamworld npc's

it is a known issue since the dd updates restrained dialogues don't work on sanguine or master: try another npc

 

Ok, now this is REALLY weird and kind of makes the mod unplayable... - after 2/3 enslavements my pc is going straight to dreamworld whenever she is defeated. no enslavement is triggering. In death alternative all sd events are set to high priority and in sd enslavement chance is 100%. Why is this happening to me! :'((

Try setting death alternative "bleedout health percent" to 15%

 

Setting bleedout health percent to 15% worked! Thank you!

 

The DD_restrained thing is happening at random depending on the gags... I donno, I can't find out what exactly is causing this. MAybe SD+ equipping some zaz gags sometimes...

[ssdd2014]

I am having another problem... whenever my pc gets enslaved, I am always getting a ctd when the first sex scene is triggering. WHen I run it again and repeat the enslavement process, then the sex scene is doing ok (no ctd). This is happening everytime. Can Anyone help?

[Discord12]

I dont use estrus charus, since it's not to my taste (pregnancy and all that, not my beer).

 

Then again, I love the Estrus Animation, still wondering why noone used them for his mods until now. Kinda sad there are no enemies out there that can use those spells on the player =(

[jfraser]

I dont use estrus charus, since it's not to my taste (pregnancy and all that, not my beer).

 

Then again, I love the Estrus Animation, still wondering why noone used them for his mods until now. Kinda sad there are no enemies out there that can use those spells on the player =(

In previous versions SD+ used it for spriggan capture animations because it was somehow flagged as masturbation. I always turned off the other masturbation animations to make sure the estrus was used in those situations. Not sure if that still happens, but I hope so because it really works well in that context.

[crudo]

I dont use estrus charus, since it's not to my taste (pregnancy and all that, not my beer).

 

Then again, I love the Estrus Animation, still wondering why noone used them for his mods until now. Kinda sad there are no enemies out there that can use those spells on the player =(

 

There is an Estrus Mimic mod.  It has an MCM with a variable percentage, the mod makes chests in Skyrim mimics that will attack the player.  Basically there is a chance that every chest in Skryim will trigger the Estrus animation on you or your follower, or both.  You can set different chest factions to different animations.  I had never seen the Dwemer animations until I tried the mod.  Does not impregnate player.  Might be your beer.

[crudo]

Had a new event happen in SD+ the other night that never happened before.  It also caused a few issues.

 

I had stolen some items from a house and the a day or two later the hired thugs came looking for my PC.  After the beatdown the thugs said they were taking me to Mistwatch.  I asked are we there yet a few times and got the, "That's enough" for the quick transport.  Only this time the game didn't take me there.  I got the message that the Master at Mistwatch was dead, my lucky day.  That's when the trouble started.

 

I should add I have the kneeling patch from Inte.  So I was kneeling in front of the thug that was my master.  After the "lucky day" message the thug was no longer my master, I wasn't taken to Mistwatch, yet I was still kneeling before the thugs and none of them registered as master.  I was a slave with no owner.

 

I tried a few things after that.  Trying to find a new owner.  Found one eventually and ran away to break the slave faction.  Even when I got away I was still considered a slave.  When I finally removed all the bindings and collar I was still considered a slave.  My master even appeared out of the blue to punish me for trying to escape.  I then escaped again and the cycle kind of repeats.  I just went to an old save after that.

 

I finally got out of the slavery loop by fighting the thugs, which took a real long time but it finally freed me.

 

I still don't know what killed the Mistwatch master.  Very early in the game I was a slave there and escaped but I don't recall him dieing.  It's possible he followed me outside, there was a bear near the tower and I did hear some kerfuffle on my escape but thought it was the outside guards.  In either case I thought the inhabitants would respawn.

 

Any thoughts?

[crudo]

One other thought about the mod.  Being a slave outdoors is kind of strange.  With enemies like bandits, wizards, Forsworn could you have them take you to one of the camps or caves after enslavement?

[Eskella]

Would be super cool =)

But then again, there are so many great features in this mod I never saw.

 

I really need help / advice on this.

Here is a detailed example of how my last enslavement went about (and pretty much all my enslavements always are boring like this).

I played this enslavement for over one week in game time (only around 24 hours are waiting time).

 

[...]

 

Hopefully someone can give me some more insight and hopefully I at least get an answer to this post =(

 

I actually had more or less the same experience and feeling. I was kind of expecting something like PSE for Oblivion, minus the quests.

 

I'm glad there's a mod with the functionality SD+ offers, mind you, but here's to hoping there's a little more agency removal down the road.

[Discord12]

 

I dont use estrus charus, since it's not to my taste (pregnancy and all that, not my beer).

 

Then again, I love the Estrus Animation, still wondering why noone used them for his mods until now. Kinda sad there are no enemies out there that can use those spells on the player =(

 

There is an Estrus Mimic mod.  It has an MCM with a variable percentage, the mod makes chests in Skyrim mimics that will attack the player.  Basically there is a chance that every chest in Skryim will trigger the Estrus animation on you or your follower, or both.  You can set different chest factions to different animations.  I had never seen the Dwemer animations until I tried the mod.  Does not impregnate player.  Might be your beer.

 

 

That actually sounds really good. any idea what the name of the mod is? I could find anything.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, I was to stupid to realize its on nexus not loverslab =)

[Vithiss]

Mimics

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49566/?

[ssdd2014]

I am having another problem... whenever my pc gets enslaved, I am always getting a ctd when the first sex scene is triggering. WHen I run it again and repeat the enslavement process, then the sex scene is doing ok (no ctd). This is happening everytime. Can Anyone help?

 

Sadly, bump.

 

This is really persistent! Its not going away and happening every first time I load up the game!

Sorry to sound like a chronic crybaby, but any help is much appreciated.

[jfraser]

Well, I notice you have DD Expansion in front of both Sexlab and Zaz. It should be behind them. Also, live another life should be at or near the end. Did you run LOOT or BOSS?

 

Edit: also, I don't see Sexlab Aroused. SD needs that.

 

Edit again: actually, I don't see DD - Integration either. I think I'm beginning to see the problem.

[Rickonhh]

Well, I notice you have DD Expansion in front of both Sexlab and Zaz. It should be behind them. Also, live another life should be at or near the end. Did you run LOOT or BOSS?

 

Edit: also, I don't see Sexlab Aroused. SD needs that.

 

Edit again: actually, I don't see DD - Integration either. I think I'm beginning to see the problem.

 

Thanks. I tried moving my mods around like you said but I still get the ctd. I have Aroused and Integration. It's in my mod list but it doesn't show up on my load order for some reason.

 

And I'm a bit inexperienced in this.  I have no ideal what LOOT or BOSS is. lol

[Rickonhh]

Here is a screenshot of my mod list.

[jfraser]

Google Skyrim Loot. It will put your mods in order for you.

 

You have them installed but they're not in your load order. Uninstall and reinstall them. Then run FNIS and LOOT. Also, find, download, and run TES5Edit. Don't uncheck any of the mods - just let it load them all. If you're missing something or something is out of order it will throw an error and tell you what's wrong.

[Rickonhh]

Google Skyrim Loot. It will put your mods in order for you.

 

You have them installed but they're not in your load order. Uninstall and reinstall them. Then run FNIS and LOOT. Also, find, download, and run TES5Edit. Don't uncheck any of the mods - just let it load them all. If you're missing something or something is out of order it will throw an error and tell you what's wrong.

 

Thanks. I will try that right now!

[Rickonhh]

Jfraser, you rock man! It worked. Thanks a million!!!

 

I guess I just needed someone who knows what the heck they're doing to look at it. That program LOOT is incredible. All this trouble I had is worth it because otherwise I would still be pounding my brain manually sorting load orders . Thanks for that too.

[CliftonJD]

 

Can anyone tell me why is dd_restrained not working with sd for me? I have tried to move it up and down in load order with no avail. I have all the latest updates of dd and sd+. Also, dd_restrained is appearing in the mcm menu just fine, but the 'mmph..' dialogue never triggers...

 

I have tried re-installing, starting new game. I don't know wy the scripts are not triggering!

is the mod not working at all Or just not working with certain npc's such as sanguine or master or other dreamworld npc's

it is a known issue since the dd updates restrained dialogues don't work on sanguine or master: try another npc

 

Ok, now this is REALLY weird and kind of makes the mod unplayable... - after 2/3 enslavements my pc is going straight to dreamworld whenever she is defeated. no enslavement is triggering. In death alternative all sd events are set to high priority and in sd enslavement chance is 100%. Why is this happening to me! :'((

Try setting death alternative "bleedout health percent" to 15%

 

Setting bleedout health percent to 15% worked! Thank you!

 

The DD_restrained thing is happening at random depending on the gags... I donno, I can't find out what exactly is causing this. MAybe SD+ equipping some zaz gags sometimes...

 

zaz gags will depend on zaz versions, but normally gave freedom of speech (i think the new 6.0 changes that

 

Had a new event happen in SD+ the other night that never happened before.  It also caused a few issues.

 

I had stolen some items from a house and the a day or two later the hired thugs came looking for my PC.  After the beatdown the thugs said they were taking me to Mistwatch.  I asked are we there yet a few times and got the, "That's enough" for the quick transport.  Only this time the game didn't take me there.  I got the message that the Master at Mistwatch was dead, my lucky day.  That's when the trouble started.

 

I should add I have the kneeling patch from Inte.  So I was kneeling in front of the thug that was my master.  After the "lucky day" message the thug was no longer my master, I wasn't taken to Mistwatch, yet I was still kneeling before the thugs and none of them registered as master.  I was a slave with no owner.

 

I tried a few things after that.  Trying to find a new owner.  Found one eventually and ran away to break the slave faction.  Even when I got away I was still considered a slave.  When I finally removed all the bindings and collar I was still considered a slave.  My master even appeared out of the blue to punish me for trying to escape.  I then escaped again and the cycle kind of repeats.  I just went to an old save after that.

 

I finally got out of the slavery loop by fighting the thugs, which took a real long time but it finally freed me.

 

I still don't know what killed the Mistwatch master.  Very early in the game I was a slave there and escaped but I don't recall him dieing.  It's possible he followed me outside, there was a bear near the tower and I did hear some kerfuffle on my escape but thought it was the outside guards.  In either case I thought the inhabitants would respawn.

 

Any thoughts?

i'm guessing that's an issue with the patch, its from another author and i've recently discovered the cage patch to be buggy as well, wouldn't even load in my game

 

 

I am having another problem... whenever my pc gets enslaved, I am always getting a ctd when the first sex scene is triggering. WHen I run it again and repeat the enslavement process, then the sex scene is doing ok (no ctd). This is happening everytime. Can Anyone help?

 

Sadly, bump.

 

This is really persistent! Its not going away and happening every first time I load up the game!

Sorry to sound like a chronic crybaby, but any help is much appreciated.

 

check that you have all the requirements and their updates and check them with loot

if you're still haveing trouble after that, post load order and papyrus

[aspirine2]

1-game freezes to black screen after loading a save after visiting the Sanguine realm for the first time?

2-beside why i 'm getting your prayers goes unanswered (notification) after clicking pray to the gods ? shouldn't i be teleported  to the dream realm..!!

 

3-and how can i adjust my MCM to go directly to the dream realm instead of anything else, but in the same time is it possible to not to disable the SD enslavement at the alternate death settings