Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Eth4rlad]

I've been trying your suggestions for the settings, but so far the results I've got were quite inconsistent. I've managed to start DA's Vampire Thrall quest once though. However, SD+'s enslavement never starts. My main problem is DA doesn't seem to prevent me from dying, I very rarely go into bleedout mode, I instantly die most of the time. Maybe it's some kind of script lag that doesn't let DA's scripts to run ontime, I don't know.

 

Disable "Death Alternative Death" in On Death-Settings. You should not die then since you enabled Essential under settings. That being said i wouldnt be surprised if Defeat is the Mod fucking everything up because it tries to trigger rape when Enslavement tries to start.

Like i mentioned earlier, it fucked everything on my End too until i decided to kick it.

 

[bjornk]

Disable "Death Alternative Death" in On Death-Settings. You should not die then since you enabled Essential under settings.

That's the problem. I die even when it's disabled, even when both that and SD Death are disabled. When DA first time tutorials enabled, they pop up just before the game automatically loads the previous save after I died.

 

Wait a second, I've just remembered something! The bessentialstakenodamage setting in off in my Skyrim.ini. That must be the reason why I keep dying. Fuck, I've never thought of that...

[Eth4rlad]

 

 

Wait a second, I've just remembered something! The bessentialstakenodamage setting in off in my Skyrim.ini. That must be the reason why I keep dying. Fuck, I've never thought of that...

 

 

 

[bjornk]

LOL. Sorry, that was really my stupidity, and I've been trying the find to issue for two days. Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions though.

[NNS10]

I'm going to bump my previous question since it's probably lost by now. I have something of the opposite problem.

 

My character never dies, but the enemies don't stop attacking either. Even after Defeat or SD triggers, enemies continue to attack my character.

 

Before it sometimes happened. On my new game, it always happens now. I also noticed that whenever I am attacked while in the bleedout state, my character gets up before going into the bleedout state animation again. Again, happening on my new game, which is rather odd. The only big change I did was swap out "Alternate Start - Live Another Life" for "Skyrim Unbound."

 

Regardless of this new additional bug in behavior, the whole issue with enemies continuing to attacked is something I've experienced on and off (at the minimum) through many different playthroughs and configurations.

 

[Vithiss]

Try resetting  Player State and Status Effects in the DA menu on the utility tab if you haven't already. Sometimes that works for me, but usually I have to go back to an earlier save.

[galgat]

I don't think I would ever kick Defeat (It covers so many creatures that other mods do not), it is to easy to turn off, and then back on latter if you want it.

 

I have had the most trouble with DA, I find I am best to leave its setting alone, except for turning off anything it has to do with Defeat. and allow Defeat to take care of it's self. it is much better off with out DA, or at least for me it is.

 

  But we all have different load orders, and priority's.  This has been a very fun mod for me though. even with the occasional snag here and there.

[Discord12]

It would be great to get a list of location / factions that are good to get enslaved.

 

I've played this mod for months now, and I NEVER got anything besides getting whipped and occasionally fucked (very rare).

Escaping is extremely easy (simply change area or pick up a weapon....) and your owner doesnt really show any interest in you,

It seems im having very bad luck with my owners since they are mostly completly inactive and dont even move around much.

 

So where would be a good place to get enslaved? where is the action?

What owner really gets me working and does treat me like a sex slave instead of simply whipping me for everything (even if I ask him to please him...) ?

[alexvkj]

I played a bit more with the mod and encountered following problems:

 

1. When I get out of my master without stealing the Master Key, I didn't found any way to remove the collar. The houskeeping of SD+ is collaring me over and over again. The only solution is to be enslaved again and steal the damn key. Any console cheats perhaps? Can I just do "help master key" and add it with player.additem?

 

2. I was free but still collared and asked my follower to enslave me with "I need a strong hand". He agreed and I became in a weird situation, one one hand I was a slave, on another, I was still able to command the follower. Perhaps you should think about removing all the dialog options from the Owner except the SD+-relevant ones.

[ssdd2014]

Can anyone tell me why is dd_restrained not working with sd for me? I have tried to move it up and down in load order with no avail. I have all the latest updates of dd and sd+. Also, dd_restrained is appearing in the mcm menu just fine, but the 'mmph..' dialogue never triggers...

 

I have tried re-installing, starting new game. I don't know wy the scripts are not triggering!

[ssdd2014]

Ok, now this is REALLY weird and kind of makes the mod unplayable... - after 2/3 enslavements my pc is going straight to dreamworld whenever she is defeated. no enslavement is triggering. In death alternative all sd events are set to high priority and in sd enslavement chance is 100%. Why is this happening to me! :'((

[Nefim]

worse case scenario, you can try and turn off The dreamworld bit in Death Alternative... it might not work but it is worth a try. I think it is under blackout or something.

 

 

SD+ has completely stopped working for me. At first I thought it was a problem with scenes not triggering with Death Alternative but ... if I turn off SD stuff Death alternative works fine. to be exact, No events trigger,  if I blackout there is a wait period then my character gets back up. so Death Alternative recognizes SD ... its just SD isn't triggering. I tried reinstalling SD but to no avail. It had worked in the past so  I can only guess one of the countless mods I have added broke it.

 

I ended up having to turn SD off in Death Alternative and set enslavement to 0%, because I can't actually uninstall SD+ due to the MCM issue. * sent to dreamworld*.

 

I have debated starting a new game to see if the issue continues  but .. I have 3 games going right now...and I am not sure I want another

 

Anyway, love the Mod from what little time I had to play with it.

 

[White Banshee]

What's happening to me is that, when enslaved, my char has not his hands tied behind his back with the result to break the slave status immersion. Is that intentional with the latest release? I'm asking because there might be something wrong only about my settings, just to know.

[Discord12]

Same here, Dont get bound when enslaved. along with a multitude of other immersion breaking things.

[Daemones]

I'm gonna derp for a few moments here... but I recall seeing something about a leash being added to SD or DD in the near future. Anyone saw that too or am I just living in a dreamworld? (heh heh get it... )

[Discord12]

Would be super cool =)

But then again, there are so many great features in this mod I never saw.

 

I really need help / advice on this.

Here is a detailed example of how my last enslavement went about (and pretty much all my enslavements always are boring like this).

I played this enslavement for over one week in game time (only around 24 hours are waiting time).

Overall I used this mod since around 3 months in various builds and mod combinations, the results are always the same:

 

- I started a new game and went to a fort near riften (since I knew there are plenty of bandits there).

- Pretty fast I got kicked to the ground, DA took effect and then triggered SD+.

- Owner rapes me. Strange here: many poses are not used (I cycled through them using the sexlab hotkeys) and for some reason they use lesbian poses too. ...

- I get enslaved. Not bound though, so my hands are free.

- MY owner wanders around a tiny little bit, and when I run around he will follow me (What the fuck? The owner following the slave?)

- My owner wont do anything on his own. One would think the owner of  the hottest woman in all of Tamriel (and beyond =) ) would permanently fuck her brains out in all manners... negative. He could care less about you.

- None of the appr. 15+ bandits in the fort react to you on their own. (Falmer will at least trigger the "Grope" message.)

- When I take the active part and talk with my master in 90% of the cases I will get the "please?" dialogue (besides the always persistent hungry / thirsty / clothes options). the please option will ALWAYS lead to whipping scene. While being whipped I was free to run around....

- the rest of the 10% I could use the "Master?" dialogue option. With this option I could pay my master and give him presents eventually leading to the "Indenture" quest where you could pay for your freedom. (Never managed that since it requires quite a lot of gold coins in very little time).

 

That is the whole Mod for me. It includes basicaly no sex or slavedom.

Also since I wasn't bound it was incredible easy to escape whenever I wanted. weapons everywhere, being able to pick up whatever I want... The whole mod felt more like having an additional follower called "Owner" who can whip you on demand.

 

From the description of the mod it sounds super awesome, but I cant get any of the features to work.

 

 

Ideas and want to haves:

 

- with Vilja and Sofia (and probably a lot of others too) follower its possible to ask them to "take the lead". That should also be possible with SD+ Owners, so they dont follow yoou, but you have to follow them (even through dungeons and so on)

- MUCH MUCH more sex. Not only your Owner should fuck you 24/7 but he should also start renting you out to People around him (of the same faction).

- Much more activity from the owner without the player having to do anything. You are a SLAVE, you shouldnt be the active part in this "relationship"

- Giving the owner MUCH more freedom: tying you to a pole etc and leaving you there for some hours to get helplessly used by the other bandits / falmer / whatever. Time triggering event instead of dialogue trigger.

- you are a slave, and lets be honest, most of us play the goddamn prettiest thing on earth. Owners shouldn't let you "buy your freedom". Very few would choose money over having you as slave, and then again, not letting you free, but maybe sellign you off (which is a feature according to mod description, never saw it.

- it would be really great to have mage owners use spells on you, I'm thinking the Estrus spells (tentacles, rape-machines) and the hentai training creatures from the "Nasty critters" Mod. So he could rape you, when his d**k got tired and just sit there and watch you moan.

 

Hopefully someone can give me some more insight and hopefully I at least get an answer to this post =(

[Eth4rlad]

- MY owner wanders around a tiny little bit, and when I run around he will follow me (What the fuck? The owner following the slave?)

- My owner wont do anything on his own. One would think the owner of  the hottest woman in all of Tamriel (and beyond =) ) would permanently fuck her brains out in all manners... negative. He could care less about you.

 

That's how it's supposed to work. It might not be perfect, but having the Master sandbox around with the PC tied to him with a followerscript could lead to all kinds of problems. Not least that the PC simply get's stuck somewhere because the pathfinding in Skyrim quite frankly sucks. If the location has a cage, the PC get's forced into there at nights through scripts but that's it. It might not be perfect, and having a heavily scripted Slavery-Storyline with dialogues and scripted events would sure be nice (on the first playthrough) but Sky isn't a Machine.

 

Hopefully Sky will be able to bring the forcekneel back with incoming updated though.

 

 

- When I take the active part and talk with my master in 90% of the cases I will get the "please?" dialogue (besides the always persistent hungry / thirsty / clothes options). the please option will ALWAYS lead to whipping scene. While being whipped I was free to run around....

- the rest of the 10% I could use the "Master?" dialogue option. With this option I could pay my master and give him presents eventually leading to the "Indenture" quest where you could pay for your freedom. (Never managed that since it requires quite a lot of gold coins in very little time).

 

When you talk to him once through "Master?" you will only have the "Please"-Option for the comming ingame-hour. The actions vary though, also depending on your demerits. Dance, changing the hairstyle, forced to drink Skooma, Rape or whipping/Zaz-Animations.

You can set the difficulty of the Indentured-Quest in the MCM-Menu btw

 

Most other things are easily handled by other Mods, quite frankly. Deviously Helpless or Loversvictim will make everybody rape you.

Or any Prostitution-Mod to basically expand the Indentured-Quest.

 

 

 

I wouldn't reduce SD+ to simply a Slavery-Mod. At this point the Enslavement is a great addition as a Death Alternative, with Sanguines Plaything as a great addition afterwards. Plus there's also the whole Spriggan-Quest to enjoy.

[baronesa]

Been having some of the problems listed here about enslavement not triggering... About to try some of the configurations shown here.

 

Another question...

 

Would there be any problem that could mess with enslavement by having OBIS ?

 

 

EDIT:

 

Well the recommended setting sworked like a charm.

 

Disable wound on Defeat, disable the post events. I left NPC vs NPC on, and gave no problem.

 

And got enslaved by a group of bandits, so I think that answer my OBIS question... right?

 

 

REALLY love this mod

 

Thank you Skyrimll

[NNS10]

Try resetting  Player State and Status Effects in the DA menu on the utility tab if you haven't already. Sometimes that works for me, but usually I have to go back to an earlier save.

 

I've used that function many times. Doesn't do anything to stop attackers from continuing to attack the next time Defeat or SD triggers.

[Discord12]

 

If the location has a cage, the PC get's forced into there at nights through scripts but that's it.

 

 

That would be a start, but even that doesnt happen.

As I said, right now all im getting is being whipped and dialogues that keep repeating and doesnt seem to do anything.

I dont think thats how the mod is "supposed to be".

 

 

 

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hen you talk to him once through "Master?" you will only have the "Please"-Option for the comming ingame-hour. The actions vary though, also depending on your demerits. Dance, changing the hairstyle, forced to drink Skooma, Rape or whipping/Zaz-Animations.

Are those 4 the only things that can happen? And what do I need to do to trigger what?

As I said, until now all I ever got was whipping.

 

 

Most other things are easily handled by other Mods, quite frankly. Deviously Helpless or Loversvictim will make everybody rape you.

Or any Prostitution-Mod to basically expand the Indentured-Quest.

 

I dont want a plain "rape mod". asu you said plenty other mods handle that.

I want a mod that makes you an object that men want to OWN. Or simply put: I want to play as a (sex-) slave.

From the description and features of the mod it sounds like this is EXACTLY what the mod is supposed to do, and it even sounds like all the features are there (or at least most of them) but they simply dont trigger for me.

[CliftonJD]

I'm going to bump my previous question since it's probably lost by now. I have something of the opposite problem.

 

My character never dies, but the enemies don't stop attacking either. Even after Defeat or SD triggers, enemies continue to attack my character.

 

Before it sometimes happened. On my new game, it always happens now. I also noticed that whenever I am attacked while in the bleedout state, my character gets up before going into the bleedout state animation again. Again, happening on my new game, which is rather odd. The only big change I did was swap out "Alternate Start - Live Another Life" for "Skyrim Unbound."

 

Regardless of this new additional bug in behavior, the whole issue with enemies continuing to attacked is something I've experienced on and off (at the minimum) through many different playthroughs and configurations.

 

you need to narrow down whether this is an issue with sexlab defeat or death alternative or more oddly sd: which mod is having this weird bug - start by disabling sexlab defeat thru its mcm or disable that mod (can work out setting that back later after problems fixed, i use submit with autosubmit disabled)

next turn to death alternative and from the default values, you'll see protected player is on, set the "bleedout health percent" to 15%, the next setting below that i believe is the recovery time from bleedout (if you've altered that setting you'll need it back)

next if you have followers with you, you'll need to change the default follower settings in death alternative ( i diabled all follower tracking in mine, so it ignores them)

then there's also a section about: "on bleedout" - disable necromantic absorbtion completely setting it to 0% and unchecking it

 

hope that helps your situation, those are the settings i use, but that's a weird bug you have

note also, if you had that comment about sperg earlier, i'd recommend disabling that mod (atleast foor the time being, use a separate save to de-bug this)

I played a bit more with the mod and encountered following problems:

 

1. When I get out of my master without stealing the Master Key, I didn't found any way to remove the collar. The houskeeping of SD+ is collaring me over and over again. The only solution is to be enslaved again and steal the damn key. Any console cheats perhaps? Can I just do "help master key" and add it with player.additem?

 

2. I was free but still collared and asked my follower to enslave me with "I need a strong hand". He agreed and I became in a weird situation, one one hand I was a slave, on another, I was still able to command the follower. Perhaps you should think about removing all the dialog options from the Owner except the SD+-relevant ones.

the collar is handled by devious devices, master's key won't remove it, you'll need a DD mod for removing collars: "captured dreams" has ways for that or find the "forbidden tome" in the forbidden library of the arcaneum and forge a restraints key, "deviously cursed loot" has other escape chances as well

 

Can anyone tell me why is dd_restrained not working with sd for me? I have tried to move it up and down in load order with no avail. I have all the latest updates of dd and sd+. Also, dd_restrained is appearing in the mcm menu just fine, but the 'mmph..' dialogue never triggers...

 

I have tried re-installing, starting new game. I don't know wy the scripts are not triggering!

is the mod not working at all Or just not working with certain npc's such as sanguine or master or other dreamworld npc's

it is a known issue since the dd updates restrained dialogues don't work on sanguine or master: try another npc

 

Ok, now this is REALLY weird and kind of makes the mod unplayable... - after 2/3 enslavements my pc is going straight to dreamworld whenever she is defeated. no enslavement is triggering. In death alternative all sd events are set to high priority and in sd enslavement chance is 100%. Why is this happening to me! :'((

Try setting death alternative "bleedout health percent" to 15%

 

What's happening to me is that, when enslaved, my char has not his hands tied behind his back with the result to break the slave status immersion. Is that intentional with the latest release? I'm asking because there might be something wrong only about my settings, just to know.

a screenshot might help, but it sounds like you might have other bindings applied preventing the binder which anables that animation

[Eth4rlad]

 

 

If the location has a cage, the PC get's forced into there at nights through scripts but that's it.

 

 

That would be a start, but even that doesnt happen.

As I said, right now all im getting is being whipped and dialogues that keep repeating and doesnt seem to do anything.

I dont think thats how the mod is "supposed to be".

 

 

No, you're right. In my playthroughs, SD+ recognized a cage every time in 3 diffeent locations. Somewhere around 10PM a script should trigger and your Master locks youup until 8am. If that doesn't happen, somethings wrong. Might be just bad luck and you found a cage that for some reason isn't recognized or for some reason Scripts don't trigger on your end.

 

 

 

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hen you talk to him once through "Master?" you will only have the "Please"-Option for the comming ingame-hour. The actions vary though, also depending on your demerits. Dance, changing the hairstyle, forced to drink Skooma, Rape or whipping/Zaz-Animations.

Are those 4 the only things that can happen? And what do I need to do to trigger what?

As I said, until now all I ever got was whipping.

 

 

That's the events as far as i can think. Like i said, it depends on demerits. If Master doesn't trust/like you, he'll continue to beat the shit out of you until you give him reason not to.

 

 

 

 

Most other things are easily handled by other Mods, quite frankly. Deviously Helpless or Loversvictim will make everybody rape you.

Or any Prostitution-Mod to basically expand the Indentured-Quest.

 

I dont want a plain "rape mod". asu you said plenty other mods handle that.

I want a mod that makes you an object that men want to OWN. Or simply put: I want to play as a (sex-) slave.

From the description and features of the mod it sounds like this is EXACTLY what the mod is supposed to do, and it even sounds like all the features are there (or at least most of them) but they simply dont trigger for me.

 

 

Hm,maybe i misunderstood you then. Do you mean more dialogue and fluff? Like the sidequests of Devious Cidhna?

 

But yeah, to clarify: SD+ , on it's own, does not trigger a whole ton of Dialogue or Events in the Enslaved-Quest, besides the dialogue the PC can start.

[jfraser]

 

 

 

 

If the location has a cage, the PC get's forced into there at nights through scripts but that's it.

 

That would be a start, but even that doesnt happen.

As I said, right now all im getting is being whipped and dialogues that keep repeating and doesnt seem to do anything.

I dont think thats how the mod is "supposed to be".

No, you're right. In my playthroughs, SD+ recognized a cage every time in 3 diffeent locations. Somewhere around 10PM a script should trigger and your Master locks youup until 8am. If that doesn't happen, somethings wrong. Might be just bad luck and you found a cage that for some reason isn't recognized or for some reason Scripts don't trigger on your end.

 

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hen you talk to him once through "Master?" you will only have the "Please"-Option for the comming ingame-hour. The actions vary though, also depending on your demerits. Dance, changing the hairstyle, forced to drink Skooma, Rape or whipping/Zaz-Animations.

Are those 4 the only things that can happen? And what do I need to do to trigger what?

As I said, until now all I ever got was whipping.

That's the events as far as i can think. Like i said, it depends on demerits. If Master doesn't trust/like you, he'll continue to beat the shit out of you until you give him reason not to.

 

 

 

 

Most other things are easily handled by other Mods, quite frankly. Deviously Helpless or Loversvictim will make everybody rape you.

Or any Prostitution-Mod to basically expand the Indentured-Quest.

I dont want a plain "rape mod". asu you said plenty other mods handle that.

I want a mod that makes you an object that men want to OWN. Or simply put: I want to play as a (sex-) slave.

From the description and features of the mod it sounds like this is EXACTLY what the mod is supposed to do, and it even sounds like all the features are there (or at least most of them) but they simply dont trigger for me.

Hm,maybe i misunderstood you then. Do you mean more dialogue and fluff? Like the sidequests of Devious Cidhna?

 

But yeah, to clarify: SD+ , on it's own, does not trigger a whole ton of Dialogue or Events in the Enslaved-Quest, besides the dialogue the PC can start.

SD triggers rape by itself quite a lot. If you're only getting whipped, something is broken. Have you tried resetting ZAZ, Sexlab, and SD? Something must have got erased somehow.

[Guest]

Hey, just wanna say I really loved SD and am excited to try SD+.

 

I installed everything, i believe correctly, and ran FNIS, and it said it worked fine.

Started up fine, and got myself enslaved to some bandits. The placed armbinders and cuffs on me.

I asked my Master to remove the arm binders, and she said she would, but the arm binders weren't removed.

I escaped and asked some other people, including Lydia, who was my follower, to free me, and people agreed to,

but the binders weren't removed.

 

Finally, I tried the "struggle" option and the "take it off" option, and both claimed I had freed myself

from the binders, but for some reason I'm still in them no matter how many times I try.

 

What could be causing this? Could load order impact this? Is there a console command I can use to free myself

as a temporary fix? I enjoy SD+, but this problem is making the mod unplayable

 

Thank you in advance for any help, and keep up the good work!

[Discord12]

Thanks a lot for the answers!

 

SD triggers rape by itself quite a lot. If you're only getting whipped, something is broken. Have you tried resetting ZAZ, Sexlab, and SD? Something must have got erased somehow.

 

 

I've been completly uninstalling / reinstalling / updating my mods a lot (and always started a new game) so I'm at a loss here.

ZAZ might be the Problem, or even other mods that conflict, but I have no Idea which ones.

 

My Mods from Loverslab / Sex-centered mods are:

 

Bestiality Animation Pack

Bestiality Extras

Dangerous Nights

Defeat

EstrusforSkyrim (from Nexus)

Nusbie Voices

Radiant Prostitution

SD+2044

SD+20addons

SexLab Sperm Replacer

SexLab Aroused

SexLab Lovers Comfort

SexLab Lovers Victim

SexLab Framework

SexLab Mind Control

Zaz Resources - Whips and Bondage - 1-1a

Zaz Animation Pack Main

Zaz Animation Pack Textures

 

DD Restrained

Devious Devices for the Masses II

Devious Devices Assets

Devious Devices Expansion

Devious Devices Captures

Devious Devices Integration

Devious Devices Cursed Loot

Devious Devices Helpless

Skyrim Bound

 

Also, I let LOOT get the Load Order.

Any help on the matter would be appreciated.

 

The hint that there are "only" 4 things from dialogue (Rape, whip, drug and dance) that can happen is a valueable one. Is there a (more or less detailed) description somewhere of what can happen where at all (and what trigers it)? I read the manual, but sadly it seems very dated and didnt explain much.

 

 

 

 

Another (unrelated Issue) is with Zaz, it starts a Gaged dialog when im gaged and trying to talk with someone. as much fun as that might be, it actually breaks a lot of other mods and I didnt find a way to deactivate that feature... any advice?