Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Azn]

Huh, finally found that statue of Sanguine. Kinda surprised me when I saw where it was, xD. I also took the Ruby off it, hope he doesn't mind, haha!

[DeepBlueFrog]

I keep looking for spoilers on Spriggan Quest,

Some thoughts I have from reading around is if its a disease then that would be prevented from functioning by being a werewolf, vampire, or PSQ Succubus.

 

Also wondering about compatibility with Immersive Creatures, had been defeated by a spriggan which wasn't a "Flowering Spriggan" and the consequence "Defeat" mod kicked in and the scene failed and control resumed, this of course looped and no other Death Alternative scene could play out.

 

So I reduced Defeat's chance to kick in down to 0% and resulting defeats lead to normal Death Alternative scenario's.  I did notice the transition to DA on blackout scenarios felt a lot better than before with Defeat running its stuff in Bleedout, which sometimes just gets wonky.

 

So can we get some spoilers?

 

Have you looked at the PDF manual?

 

Hints for the Spriggan quest are on page 17 and 18.

[Eth4rlad]

Regarding that (awesome) Statue, i have a Question/Suggestion.

 

When i saw a bedroll on an altar placed in front of the Statue i wondered if there might be some hidden Mechanic behind it but there isn't, right? Because i think it would be awesome if sleeping or having Sex in front of the Statue would do something. Some kind of hidden scene with Dremora-Sex would obviously kinda awesome but with the amount of Features skyrimll has planned atm that shouldn't be of an priority.

 

But i would just be happy if sleeping on that Bedroll would give you a 100% chance to visit the Dreamworld. I know the Dreamworld is still getting fleshed out but i kind of miss some Option to trigger a Visit beside jumping off a cliff.

 

 

[Azuka123]

when I enslave my character is frozen as if I'd fail animation acer not nothing help please

[MonkeyShoulder]

 

no updates this weekend either :/

 

If you look at the second post of this thread, you will see there is still a long list of items to fix before I can call this release 'ready'.

 

I can't tell how long it will take me to go through it. A couple of weeks at least. Maybe less if things go smoothly.

 

Now if you want an early look at the next release and help tracking down and testing bugs, I can add you to the list of testers. Just know that your save game could break worse than usual during the testing period

 

 

Hey Skyrimll considering the size of the mod have you ever thought about collabing with another LL member?

[jfraser]

Regarding that (awesome) Statue, i have a Question/Suggestion.

 

When i saw a bedroll on an altar placed in front of the Statue i wondered if there might be some hidden Mechanic behind it but there isn't, right? Because i think it would be awesome if sleeping or having Sex in front of the Statue would do something. Some kind of hidden scene with Dremora-Sex would obviously kinda awesome but with the amount of Features skyrimll has planned atm that shouldn't be of an priority.

 

But i would just be happy if sleeping on that Bedroll would give you a 100% chance to visit the Dreamworld. I know the Dreamworld is still getting fleshed out but i kind of miss some Option to trigger a Visit beside jumping off a cliff.

It will lead to something more eventually.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

no updates this weekend either :/

 

If you look at the second post of this thread, you will see there is still a long list of items to fix before I can call this release 'ready'.

 

I can't tell how long it will take me to go through it. A couple of weeks at least. Maybe less if things go smoothly.

 

Now if you want an early look at the next release and help tracking down and testing bugs, I can add you to the list of testers. Just know that your save game could break worse than usual during the testing period

 

 

Hey Skyrimll considering the size of the mod have you ever thought about collabing with another LL member?

 

 

I am already collaborating with several people actually.

 

Most help with early testing and bug reports, but some have contributed content and dialogues and a few even provided code updates and fixes.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Regarding that (awesome) Statue, i have a Question/Suggestion.

 

When i saw a bedroll on an altar placed in front of the Statue i wondered if there might be some hidden Mechanic behind it but there isn't, right? Because i think it would be awesome if sleeping or having Sex in front of the Statue would do something. Some kind of hidden scene with Dremora-Sex would obviously kinda awesome but with the amount of Features skyrimll has planned atm that shouldn't be of an priority.

 

But i would just be happy if sleeping on that Bedroll would give you a 100% chance to visit the Dreamworld. I know the Dreamworld is still getting fleshed out but i kind of miss some Option to trigger a Visit beside jumping off a cliff.

 

Something will happen along those lines - both as a sure way to go to Dreamworld and special scenes once the Sanguine quests are fleshed out.

[Eth4rlad]

 

Regarding that (awesome) Statue, i have a Question/Suggestion.

 

When i saw a bedroll on an altar placed in front of the Statue i wondered if there might be some hidden Mechanic behind it but there isn't, right? Because i think it would be awesome if sleeping or having Sex in front of the Statue would do something. Some kind of hidden scene with Dremora-Sex would obviously kinda awesome but with the amount of Features skyrimll has planned atm that shouldn't be of an priority.

 

But i would just be happy if sleeping on that Bedroll would give you a 100% chance to visit the Dreamworld. I know the Dreamworld is still getting fleshed out but i kind of miss some Option to trigger a Visit beside jumping off a cliff.

It will lead to something more eventually.

 

 

 

Something will happen along those lines - both as a sure way to go to Dreamworld and special scenes once the Sanguine quests are fleshed out.

 

 

Sounds cool, thx

[MonkeyShoulder]

 

 

 

no updates this weekend either :/

 

If you look at the second post of this thread, you will see there is still a long list of items to fix before I can call this release 'ready'.

 

I can't tell how long it will take me to go through it. A couple of weeks at least. Maybe less if things go smoothly.

 

Now if you want an early look at the next release and help tracking down and testing bugs, I can add you to the list of testers. Just know that your save game could break worse than usual during the testing period

 

 

Hey Skyrimll considering the size of the mod have you ever thought about collabing with another LL member?

 

 

I am already collaborating with several people actually.

 

Most help with early testing and bug reports, but some have contributed content and dialogues and a few even provided code updates and fixes.

 

 

Cool good to know, I remember watching Basished getting developed by one guy and just bug fixing is taking all his time up.

 

[Buddy Christ]

 

I can see no reason why SD and Hormones would interfere with one another.

 

If you had issues with body shape changes, it was most likely Hormones.

 

The CBBE/UNP switch for SD only affects textures (for the sweating effect after sex) and body shape for the Spriggan armor.

 

If you were not infected by a spriggan, there is no reason why SD would change your shape.

 

 

I will start another character and only use Hormones to see what happens. But not in the next few days, I finally want to play this great mod with the bodyset I wanted for it

 

One thing that (to me) seems to be an incompatibility is between SD+ and Deviously Helpless, since you can not talk to the owner or the other captors anymore after they put a device on you (collar for example, since this was set to trigger an assault in Deviously Helpless in my configuration).

Once the collar was put on (normal procedure when being enslaved, as I take it) DH kicked in and they assaulted my char and after that told her to leave before getting hurt. No conversation was possible with the owner anymore. Just the "click" sound, when you try to use something.

 

I haven't seen it in the notes, so I thought I mention it.

 

Well, two different playthroughs it is then One with SD+ and one with DH ^^

 

Thanks for the great mod!

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

I can see no reason why SD and Hormones would interfere with one another.

 

If you had issues with body shape changes, it was most likely Hormones.

 

The CBBE/UNP switch for SD only affects textures (for the sweating effect after sex) and body shape for the Spriggan armor.

 

If you were not infected by a spriggan, there is no reason why SD would change your shape.

 

 

I will start another character and only use Hormones to see what happens. But not in the next few days, I finally want to play this great mod with the bodyset I wanted for it

 

One thing that (to me) seems to be an incompatibility is between SD+ and Deviously Helpless, since you can not talk to the owner or the other captors anymore after they put a device on you (collar for example, since this was set to trigger an assault in Deviously Helpless in my configuration).

Once the collar was put on (normal procedure when being enslaved, as I take it) DH kicked in and they assaulted my char and after that told her to leave before getting hurt. No conversation was possible with the owner anymore. Just the "click" sound, when you try to use something.

 

I haven't seen it in the notes, so I thought I mention it.

 

Well, two different playthroughs it is then One with SD+ and one with DH ^^

 

Thanks for the great mod!

 

 

Thanks... good to know.

 

I already worked a way to get exceptions for SD NPCs with DD Restrained.  I will add a note about the other conflicts.

[pinky6225]

Something i've noticed on recent playthough, using the "I need a strong hand to guide me" on a follower seems to cancel out the follow and unlike when you are enslaved by a hostile NPC they won't follow you around, they seem to keep returning to sandbox AI and then coming back to the PC and then back to sandbox AI.

 

Thought i'd get my PC enslaved by Jhazgo at the college and then go down to the animal mansion but the only way I could find to get him to stay with me was to use the submit dialogue option and select lets find somewhere more private.

[carnifex]

Something i've noticed on recent playthough, using the "I need a strong hand to guide me" on a follower seems to cancel out the follow and unlike when you are enslaved by a hostile NPC they won't follow you around, they seem to keep returning to sandbox AI and then coming back to the PC and then back to sandbox AI.

 

Thought i'd get my PC enslaved by Jhazgo at the college and then go down to the animal mansion but the only way I could find to get him to stay with me was to use the submit dialogue option and select lets find somewhere more private.

I've noticed the same thing trying to play with Jenassa in Slaverun Whiterun.

[xgkf]

I haven't been able to get that dialogue option to appear at all. Before it was apparently because I hadn't actually 'begun' the mod, but I've since done that and it still doesn't show up when my girl is wearing a DD collar. Does it have to be a specific one?

[pinky6225]

no the leather collar and posture collar both work for me.

 

How are you getting your items since if your consoling them in theres a good chance your using the wrong one.

 

If you are consoling them in try consoling in the book and smithing them instead or buying them from the captured dreams shop.

[CliftonJD]

 

 

HUH?

Look at this: masters uses pillories? Missing animation?

Why SL doesn't have animation about to "use" bounded NPC's?

Its a Falkreath, near to fast travel point.

 

Edit; looks like this is a wrong animation.

 

yes, anytime you get a message stating the anim file is missing it will be substituted with something else and be wrong for doing so

 

 

Its a khajit animation, not mine.

 

 

if its a kaajiit anim, it might be considered creature anims in sl and require creature anims turned on, have you tried that

Can some one tell, how must begin spriggan ques? 

Spriggan know spriggan kill me, but i'm still alive and wake up with low hp. 

How can i know that i get Spriggan host?  _{sorry 4 my engl}

 

 

I keep looking for spoilers on Spriggan Quest,

Some thoughts I have from reading around is if its a disease then that would be prevented from functioning by being a werewolf, vampire, or PSQ Succubus.

 

Also wondering about compatibility with Immersive Creatures, had been defeated by a spriggan which wasn't a "Flowering Spriggan" and the consequence "Defeat" mod kicked in and the scene failed and control resumed, this of course looped and no other Death Alternative scene could play out.

 

So I reduced Defeat's chance to kick in down to 0% and resulting defeats lead to normal Death Alternative scenario's.  I did notice the transition to DA on blackout scenarios felt a lot better than before with Defeat running its stuff in Bleedout, which sometimes just gets wonky.

 

So can we get some spoilers?

posting screen shots of a couple config settings you 2 can look into,, notice, my submit setting is at 0%, but I also disabled autosubmit, no defeat, but also note that I had to set player as protected in death alternative to trigger it or player just dies

also posting screenshots of the journal entry after its taken its course

[xgkf]

I am consoling them, yeah, so maybe that's it. I'll try getting the book and crafting one instead then.

[CliftonJD]

I am consoling them, yeah, so maybe that's it. I'll try getting the book and crafting one instead then.

 

if you're wearing any of the belts when you approach the book, the old orc won't bother you for taking the forbidden book

[xgkf]

No, it still doesn't seem to work.

 

I got the book (via console) and read it, got the message that the quest was started and the message that I could now craft chastity stuff. I then made myself a collar, slapped it on, and approached a couple of NPCs. No dice. It didn't give them any additional dialogue, or anything like the "I need a strong hand" line that is supposed to be available.

[pinky6225]

No, it still doesn't seem to work.

 

I got the book (via console) and read it, got the message that the quest was started and the message that I could now craft chastity stuff. I then made myself a collar, slapped it on, and approached a couple of NPCs. No dice. It didn't give them any additional dialogue, or anything like the "I need a strong hand" line that is supposed to be available.

 

strange, have you been to sanguines dream world yet?

 

Might be the dialogue doesnt show until after thats happened.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

No, it still doesn't seem to work.

 

I got the book (via console) and read it, got the message that the quest was started and the message that I could now craft chastity stuff. I then made myself a collar, slapped it on, and approached a couple of NPCs. No dice. It didn't give them any additional dialogue, or anything like the "I need a strong hand" line that is supposed to be available.

 

I just looked at the conditions for that dialogue to appear.

 

The only thing that seemed out of place is that it was expecting the Hardcore option to be on. There is no need for that really, so I will remove that in the next version.

 

Do you have Hardcore checked in your SD menu?

[Fenderstat]

updated from 201 to 203 and created a new character. I can't talk to my owner when enslaved. Any suggestions?

[DeepBlueFrog]

updated from 201 to 203 and created a new character. I can't talk to my owner when enslaved. Any suggestions?

 

Is it with a Falmer or a regular NPC?

 

Somehow, Falmers can have that issue. It usually goes away by saving and reloading.

 

If it happens all the time with all NPC masters, then it is a bug and I don't know what is causing it.

[xgkf]

I do not have Hardcore checked on, no, so that would be the problem.

 

Thanks for the help in finding the issue and for removing that condition for the next version release.