Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Eth4rlad]

In the old version it triggered when you got stuff from the floor (any npc say something) and then stealing from a player with 0 or less reltionship.

 

After some time a Bounty hunter should show to bring you back enslaved to the character you stolen to.

 

To tell the truth, it never worked for me.

 

 

I've had it work in earlier versions of SD and SD+, but the trigger for the Thugs always seemed pretty hard to initiate, stealing some stuff from Anise's Cabin outside of Riverwood, then killing her was the way I triggered it before, her sister would put out a 'hit' on you, but I haven't used SD+ in a while (waiting not-so-patiently for glorious new update) so I can't say if that still works.

 

Nonono the Thugs work fine for me. They come after me randomly after i stole smth and either kill or enslave me. "Paybacks a Bitch" is the secondary quest that will be triggered after they bring me to Mistwatch. No problem there on my behalf beside the fact that Defeat occasionally breaks the event. 

 

What i'm talking about is the Bounty Collector that comes after you when you have more than 1000 Bounty on you in a Hold. I THINK the Bountyhunter is connected to the secondary Quest "Wanted!" and after i looked through console theres a SD-Quest called _SD_Bountyslave which might be it. It's just that i'm curious if it's broken or only triggered through some arbitrary actions.

 

Ninjaedit: I can't even trigger it with console commands atm so i guess it's broken.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

In the old version it triggered when you got stuff from the floor (any npc say something) and then stealing from a player with 0 or less reltionship.

 

After some time a Bounty hunter should show to bring you back enslaved to the character you stolen to.

 

To tell the truth, it never worked for me.

 

 

I've had it work in earlier versions of SD and SD+, but the trigger for the Thugs always seemed pretty hard to initiate, stealing some stuff from Anise's Cabin outside of Riverwood, then killing her was the way I triggered it before, her sister would put out a 'hit' on you, but I haven't used SD+ in a while (waiting not-so-patiently for glorious new update) so I can't say if that still works.

 

Nonono the Thugs work fine for me. They come after me randomly after i stole smth and either kill or enslave me. "Paybacks a Bitch" is the secondary quest that will be triggered after they bring me to Mistwatch. No problem there on my behalf beside the fact that Defeat occasionally breaks the event. 

 

What i'm talking about is the Bounty Collector that comes after you when you have more than 1000 Bounty on you in a Hold. I THINK the Bountyhunter is connected to the secondary Quest "Wanted!" and after i looked through console theres a SD-Quest called _SD_Bountyslave which might be it. It's just that i'm curious if it's broken or only triggered through some arbitrary actions.

 

Ninjaedit: I can't even trigger it with console commands atm so i guess it's broken.

 

 

That's what I meant.

 

I know the Thugs quest is working.

 

I never took a look at _SD_BountySlave, which is why I can't tell if it still works or not.

[CliftonJD]

I have trouble: Spriggan just kill me.

It happens with/without SDpatch files. I read faq. 

 

can you screen shot sd+ config screens

 

[eflat0]

I'm totally clueless about Thugs...

 

1. They came after me

2. They beat me up ... and Sanquine spirits me off. has his fun with me and I ask to be sent back... so sends me back.

3. Thugs beat me down again

4. screen goes black - I figure I'm blindfolded or something.

5. So I have black screen. and thugs stand around for two hours or so asking me if I "need something?"

 

 

I look at the docs and try Home and End keys... no differences.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I'm totally clueless about Thugs...

 

1. They came after me

2. They neat me up ... and Sanquine spirits me off. has his fun with me and I ask to be sent back... so sends me back.

3. Thugs beat me down again

4. screen goes black - I figure I'm blindfolded or something.

5. So I have black screen. and thugs stand around for two hours or so asking me if I "need something?"

 

 

I look at the docs and try Home and End keys... no differences.

 

I noticed that was happening in my tests as well.

 

I am looking into it.

[eflat0]

 

I'm totally clueless about Thugs...

 

1. They came after me

2. They neat me up ... and Sanquine spirits me off. has his fun with me and I ask to be sent back... so sends me back.

3. Thugs beat me down again

4. screen goes black - I figure I'm blindfolded or something.

5. So I have black screen. and thugs stand around for two hours or so asking me if I "need something?"

 

 

I look at the docs and try Home and End keys... no differences.

 

I noticed that was happening in my tests as well.

 

I am looking into it.

 

 

Yeah, am sure it has something to do when they turn passive (put their arms away) they loose their place.

 

Am glad I save a lot. So, Well I tried three more times and same events happened - was like deja vu.

 

BUT... the forth attempt went through ... and was kind crazy.

 

Attempt number FOUR!

 

1. Thugs came after me - near helgan

2. They beat me up ... and

3. Sanquine spirits me off. has his fun with me - rapes me three times before I may ask to "Please let me go , He sends close to the Alchemist Shack.

4. It's late in the middle of the night... so I go to sleep in the Alchemist Shack bed.

5. Am awakened by a Horse - guess it happened to be in the area? - which of course rapes me? 

6. Thugs come into the Alchemist Shack and start flailing me while this horse is on top of me...

7. I survive to last thru the horse-rape and run out of the shack...

8. They beat me on the road ... and one of them rape me - in the middle of the beating...

9. Beat down five times - answering "let fate decide"

10. No black screen just fade screen to - hog tied.

11. Enslaved and ... off to mistwatch.

12. Paybacks a bitch - starts

13. New master has his way with me then goes to sleep - so I steel the key... (luckily the ladder to Skyrim is right there.

14. I see the Thug is close to mixwater mill ... and high tail it over there, while still naked... - Kill him 

15. My items were in redorn retreat ... so I fast travel there... slaughter everyone in the place and get them out of the last chest...

[Slywyn]

So I'm not sure what's causing this...

 

But when I get beat down by thugs(I haven't tested this with anything else), I'll collapse, this weird noise starts(like something being equipped or unequipped over and over and over and over) and then when my character strips her feet freak out and then she flaps into the sky on feet power.

 

When it -doesn't- make my fly away, I stand there walking(Forward or backward, sometimes to the side) really slowly, and cannot do anything. Sometimes sex scenes play sometimes they don't.

[theHatzel]

My game freezes everytime my character get enslaved.

[deadmetal]

My game freezes everytime my character get enslaved.

 

your probably missing some kind of requirement, do you have all the required animations

[theHatzel]

Yes, the funny thing is that on my oldest save, it works

[eflat0]

My game freezes everytime my character get enslaved.

 

Make sure zaz animations are registered with sl. Seemed mine kept unregistered the first few times I saved a game. 

[lexv]

HUH?

Look at this: masters uses pillories? Missing animation?

Why SL doesn't have animation about to "use" bounded NPC's?

Its a Falkreath, near to fast travel point.

 

Edit; looks like this is a wrong animation.

[CliftonJD]

HUH?

Look at this: masters uses pillories? Missing animation?

Why SL doesn't have animation about to "use" bounded NPC's?

Its a Falkreath, near to fast travel point.

 

Edit; looks like this is a wrong animation.

 

yes, anytime you get a message stating the anim file is missing it will be substituted with something else and be wrong for doing so

 

edit: if you can reproduce the bug, screenshot the message stating the missing anim so the modder can look into it, its usually either an update that you need or an update that you did that the mod hasn't caught upto yet and for it being a pillory, its most likely a zaz anim

Edited July 6, 2014 by CliftonJD

[lexv]

 

HUH?

Look at this: masters uses pillories? Missing animation?

Why SL doesn't have animation about to "use" bounded NPC's?

Its a Falkreath, near to fast travel point.

 

Edit; looks like this is a wrong animation.

 

yes, anytime you get a message stating the anim file is missing it will be substituted with something else and be wrong for doing so

 

 

Its a khajit animation, not mine.

[Eth4rlad]

 

 

That's what I meant.

 

I know the Thugs quest is working.

 

I never took a look at _SD_BountySlave, which is why I can't tell if it still works or not.

 

 

No worries, i just saw that secondary quest in MCM and got curious.

 

I'm totally clueless about Thugs...

 

1. They came after me

2. They beat me up ... and Sanquine spirits me off. has his fun with me and I ask to be sent back... so sends me back.

3. Thugs beat me down again

4. screen goes black - I figure I'm blindfolded or something.

5. So I have black screen. and thugs stand around for two hours or so asking me if I "need something?"

 

 

I look at the docs and try Home and End keys... no differences.

 

I had that happen to me once or twice and figured it might be scriptlag .I disabled Defeat almost entirely except the NPC-events and fiddled with the Slliders regarding the probabitly of Enslavement and Dreamworld (i put Dreamworld on 70% or smth)

 

Dont know if coincidence but it hasn't glitched out for me since then in the last 30 Hours of playing.

[JSheppard]

Can some one tell, how must begin spriggan ques? 

Spriggan know spriggan kill me, but i'm still alive and wake up with low hp. 

How can i know that i get Spriggan host?  _{sorry 4 my engl}

[Buddy Christ]

I know that this was already discussed somewhere in this thread (at least I am pretty sure, since google seems to point to it with the keywords "SD+ changes breast size loverslab" )

But finding that post in 232 pages was a challenge I failed at, so I have to ask the question (probably) again.

 

When I start SD+ my character's body changes from my preset. I selected CBBE body in the configuration, since I do use CBBE right now. (Although the body its with TBBP support)

Trying to change the body preset in RM didn't work, as the body doesn't keep the changes after exiting RM.

 

Is there a workaround? Right now I have a character and have SD+ activated, but I would like to restart it with a character with the presets I have

 

Thanks and sorry for asking something that probably was answered before.

[deadmetal]

no updates this weekend either :/

[DeepBlueFrog]

no updates this weekend either :/

 

If you look at the second post of this thread, you will see there is still a long list of items to fix before I can call this release 'ready'.

 

I can't tell how long it will take me to go through it. A couple of weeks at least. Maybe less if things go smoothly.

 

Now if you want an early look at the next release and help tracking down and testing bugs, I can add you to the list of testers. Just know that your save game could break worse than usual during the testing period

[DeepBlueFrog]

I know that this was already discussed somewhere in this thread (at least I am pretty sure, since google seems to point to it with the keywords "SD+ changes breast size loverslab" )

But finding that post in 232 pages was a challenge I failed at, so I have to ask the question (probably) again.

 

When I start SD+ my character's body changes from my preset. I selected CBBE body in the configuration, since I do use CBBE right now. (Although the body its with TBBP support)

Trying to change the body preset in RM didn't work, as the body doesn't keep the changes after exiting RM.

 

Is there a workaround? Right now I have a character and have SD+ activated, but I would like to restart it with a character with the presets I have

 

Thanks and sorry for asking something that probably was answered before.

 

I can't remember any issue between body changes and SD+.

 

Are you sure you are not also using Hormones? or maybe a pregnancy mod?

[deadmetal]

 

no updates this weekend either :/

 

If you look at the second post of this thread, you will see there is still a long list of items to fix before I can call this release 'ready'.

 

I can't tell how long it will take me to go through it. A couple of weeks at least. Maybe less if things go smoothly.

 

Now if you want an early look at the next release and help tracking down and testing bugs, I can add you to the list of testers. Just know that your save game could break worse than usual during the testing period

 

 

I'd be more than happy to help you test it sure, done it for a few other mods on here in the past so I know the drill with the saves etc

[Buddy Christ]

 

I know that this was already discussed somewhere in this thread (at least I am pretty sure, since google seems to point to it with the keywords "SD+ changes breast size loverslab" )

But finding that post in 232 pages was a challenge I failed at, so I have to ask the question (probably) again.

 

When I start SD+ my character's body changes from my preset. I selected CBBE body in the configuration, since I do use CBBE right now. (Although the body its with TBBP support)

Trying to change the body preset in RM didn't work, as the body doesn't keep the changes after exiting RM.

 

Is there a workaround? Right now I have a character and have SD+ activated, but I would like to restart it with a character with the presets I have

 

Thanks and sorry for asking something that probably was answered before.

 

I can't remember any issue between body changes and SD+.

 

Are you sure you are not also using Hormones? or maybe a pregnancy mod?

 

 

I am not using any pregnancy mod. I do use hormones and it works fine when I do not click "begin" in SD+

If I do that, the breast and butt size of the character is "deflated" in seconds. When I open the RaceMenu, the settings are returned to 1. Changing them in RM applies the new settings. Pressing R and Naming the char and returning into the game deflates the character again.

 

I will give it a try with a new game, deactivating Hormones and see what happens.

What made me wonder is, that the Mod lets me tick CBBE as body, but I think, I am using the CBBEAdvanced with TBBE. I am not sure, if this is an issue, I am not a modder, just a user, who is happy when his game runs after installing tons of mods ^^

 

But then... the chars have a slim waist, even when I gave them a bit more in Bodyslide. So the problem might be, that I am using the wrong one.

 

After my test I will give an update Thank you for your reply!

 

Edit: I tried a completely new game with disabled Hormones (in the game, that is )

I had Hormones installed before and it worked without deflation, so I thought, this was not the reason for the shrinkage when starting SD+. But it seems like it was..... So Hormones and SD+ might not like each other bodywise ^^

 

 

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

I know that this was already discussed somewhere in this thread (at least I am pretty sure, since google seems to point to it with the keywords "SD+ changes breast size loverslab" )

But finding that post in 232 pages was a challenge I failed at, so I have to ask the question (probably) again.

 

When I start SD+ my character's body changes from my preset. I selected CBBE body in the configuration, since I do use CBBE right now. (Although the body its with TBBP support)

Trying to change the body preset in RM didn't work, as the body doesn't keep the changes after exiting RM.

 

Is there a workaround? Right now I have a character and have SD+ activated, but I would like to restart it with a character with the presets I have

 

Thanks and sorry for asking something that probably was answered before.

 

I can't remember any issue between body changes and SD+.

 

Are you sure you are not also using Hormones? or maybe a pregnancy mod?

 

 

I am not using any pregnancy mod. I do use hormones and it works fine when I do not click "begin" in SD+

If I do that, the breast and butt size of the character is "deflated" in seconds. When I open the RaceMenu, the settings are returned to 1. Changing them in RM applies the new settings. Pressing R and Naming the char and returning into the game deflates the character again.

 

I will give it a try with a new game, deactivating Hormones and see what happens.

What made me wonder is, that the Mod lets me tick CBBE as body, but I think, I am using the CBBEAdvanced with TBBE. I am not sure, if this is an issue, I am not a modder, just a user, who is happy when his game runs after installing tons of mods ^^

 

But then... the chars have a slim waist, even when I gave them a bit more in Bodyslide. So the problem might be, that I am using the wrong one.

 

After my test I will give an update Thank you for your reply!

 

Edit: I tried a completely new game with disabled Hormones (in the game, that is )

I had Hormones installed before and it worked without deflation, so I thought, this was not the reason for the shrinkage when starting SD+. But it seems like it was..... So Hormones and SD+ might not like each other bodywise ^^

 

 

I can see no reason why SD and Hormones would interfere with one another.

 

If you had issues with body shape changes, it was most likely Hormones.

 

The CBBE/UNP switch for SD only affects textures (for the sweating effect after sex) and body shape for the Spriggan armor.

 

If you were not infected by a spriggan, there is no reason why SD would change your shape.

[Gameplayer]

I keep looking for spoilers on Spriggan Quest,

Some thoughts I have from reading around is if its a disease then that would be prevented from functioning by being a werewolf, vampire, or PSQ Succubus.

 

Also wondering about compatibility with Immersive Creatures, had been defeated by a spriggan which wasn't a "Flowering Spriggan" and the consequence "Defeat" mod kicked in and the scene failed and control resumed, this of course looped and no other Death Alternative scene could play out.

 

So I reduced Defeat's chance to kick in down to 0% and resulting defeats lead to normal Death Alternative scenario's.  I did notice the transition to DA on blackout scenarios felt a lot better than before with Defeat running its stuff in Bleedout, which sometimes just gets wonky.

 

So can we get some spoilers?

[CliftonJD]

Can some one tell, how must begin spriggan ques? 

Spriggan know spriggan kill me, but i'm still alive and wake up with low hp. 

How can i know that i get Spriggan host?  _{sorry 4 my engl}

that's your bleedout/hp settings in death alternative preventing you from dieing against the spriggans, if you ever get it, you will be aware of it in many ways from a pink aura to rootlets attacking your body, even a message on the screen the same as tho a quest is received that can be verified thru the sd+ menus showing the status of "flowering spriggan"

 

I keep looking for spoilers on Spriggan Quest,

Some thoughts I have from reading around is if its a disease then that would be prevented from functioning by being a werewolf, vampire, or PSQ Succubus.

 

Also wondering about compatibility with Immersive Creatures, had been defeated by a spriggan which wasn't a "Flowering Spriggan" and the consequence "Defeat" mod kicked in and the scene failed and control resumed, this of course looped and no other Death Alternative scene could play out.

 

So I reduced Defeat's chance to kick in down to 0% and resulting defeats lead to normal Death Alternative scenario's.  I did notice the transition to DA on blackout scenarios felt a lot better than before with Defeat running its stuff in Bleedout, which sometimes just gets wonky.

 

So can we get some spoilers?

 

same as mentioned above, i'll test compatibility with psq and flowering spriggan quest in couple days, tho I don't see any reason the 2 can't co-exist, spriggan quest is another death scenario, like enslavement, its not an std, so far chaurus breeder and psq both work together, I'm already wearing a set of spriggan armor, but a just picked up a new follower so, I'm planning another attack on the spriggans after I make a few deliveries for captured dreams, I could let them kill me...done it before, but I was running it along side sexlab breeder - that's a definite conflict with spriggan quest there, you'll get the quest and receive the armor, but breeder can't wear armor so it ends up a useless quest for breeder, no breeder this time, just an escape slaveslut from the enslaved town of whiterun