Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[jfraser]

 

REMOVE Dreamworld, please!

 

The most boring death with Death Alternative is the damn Dreamworld. I've tried to remove in the options, put priority to 0, but it doesn't works. Everytime that i'm killed by any npc that doesn't belong to normal factions in the game, i'm send to damn dreamworld, instead being slave or anything.

 

Is there a way to remove it?

 

This is Sanguine Debauchery - not Skyrim Slavery.

 

Dreamworld was meant to be there from the beginning. It is staying. 

It is also linked to too many aspects of the mod to easily disable it.

 

Maybe I will revisit that when I am done with the rewrite of slavery items, master/slave interactions, uninstall procedure, leash behavior, crawl and dance animations, scenes improvements and other bug fixes on my list.

 

You can reduce the number of visits to dreamworld by unchecking the dreamworld related scenarios in DA. 

In that case , you will only have visits to dreamworld on sleep if you want to recover your items after slavery.

 

If you are sent there every time you are killed, you missed disabling the OnDeath event for Dreamworld.

 

Edit: Now... if you did disable the OnDeath event and you are still sent there when you are killed, something is wrong and it is a bug.

 

The point of adding DA was to allow more customization, like the option of disabling these events.

 

 

Also, much more will be done with it. Eventually. Once higher priorities have been taken care of.

[Alexandra The Nord Queen]

 

 

REMOVE Dreamworld, please!

 

The most boring death with Death Alternative is the damn Dreamworld. I've tried to remove in the options, put priority to 0, but it doesn't works. Everytime that i'm killed by any npc that doesn't belong to normal factions in the game, i'm send to damn dreamworld, instead being slave or anything.

 

Is there a way to remove it?

 

This is Sanguine Debauchery - not Skyrim Slavery.

 

Dreamworld was meant to be there from the beginning. It is staying. 

It is also linked to too many aspects of the mod to easily disable it.

 

Maybe I will revisit that when I am done with the rewrite of slavery items, master/slave interactions, uninstall procedure, leash behavior, crawl and dance animations, scenes improvements and other bug fixes on my list.

 

You can reduce the number of visits to dreamworld by unchecking the dreamworld related scenarios in DA. 

In that case , you will only have visits to dreamworld on sleep if you want to recover your items after slavery.

 

If you are sent there every time you are killed, you missed disabling the OnDeath event for Dreamworld.

 

Edit: Now... if you did disable the OnDeath event and you are still sent there when you are killed, something is wrong and it is a bug.

 

The point of adding DA was to allow more customization, like the option of disabling these events.

 

 

Also, much more will be done with it. Eventually. Once higher priorities have been taken care of.

 

Yes, the problem is that i disabled Dreamworld but I continue going there, depending what NPC that kills me.

[Destynova99]

 

 

Haven't touched the buffer. I just set the bleedout to start at 15%. What benefit do I get from changing bleedout/ragdoll to just bleedout?

 

 

Also, no I didn't take a massive hit. Just basic attacks from weaklings are killing me (I must not be very tough ). I tried from adept up to master. Nothing essential about me. Doesn't bother me though. As long as SD kicks in, and Defeat is playing nice with it, I'm a happy camper.

 

I wouldn't mind an easier-to-understand menu for SD/DA though. Took a while to figure out how to get SD to work right. Something like "Use SD for Death", and only that, would be nice.

 

 

I'm rather new to SD+ usage so I can't speak with much authority but it's my understanding that the ragdoll effect interferes with the SD+ mechanics. The manual says to set it to any of the non-ragdoll settings.

 

It's my understanding that if DA and SD+ are configured properly then the only times you should die (with a reload) is when you have not yet been enslaved and escaped, and are either killed by a non-enslaving NPC or by a non-npc (like from a fatal fall). Otherwise once SD+ kicks in, a death should only result in blackout and either a Death Alternative scenario, enslavement or being sent to Dreamworld.

[AwfulArchdemon]

^

I keep forgetting about that! I haven't been enslaved and escaped yet. I suppose dying is expected then? Even with DA on (with everything SD related checked)? I remember before (long time ago) I wouldn't die, even if I hadn't been enslaved before. I would simply be enslaved, unless it was an animal that killed me, or a fall, or if it was a non-faction member that killed me. Hopefully, the redguards that are after the Bannered Mare wench enslave now. I tried a million times back-in-the-day, but no gravy.

 

Man, I've been using SD forever! I'm officially "growing up with" SD.

 

Thanks jbezorg! Thanks skyrimll!

[MysticDaedra]

I just installed SD+, everything seems to have installed correctly and I get no error messages/CTDs. Almost immediately after loading my save game I got killed by one of the little fire bugs on Solstheim, and I was given the Flowering Spriggan quest. I lost all of my stuff, got the Spriggan Host armor and a single Spriggan Sap item... but the quest doesn't point to a location, and nothing else seems to be happening. My follower says that I smell sweet every now and again, but that's pretty much it.

 

What do I need to do to finish the quest and get my stuff back? Is this a common problem? I don't see any other posts in this thread about it, so I figured I'd check in and see if there is a solution, or if everything is working fine and I am just too dumb to figure it out

[xgkf]

I haven't done any of the Spriggan stuff myself, but if it's at all like the other SD+ stuff then all of your gear is likely in Sanguine's Dreamworld.

 

 

Beyond that, did you go into SD+'s MCM menu and activate the mod there? Even after installing it like any other mod (via NMM or whatever), SD+ needs to be "installed" in the MCM and then "begun" via the MCM or the "A Night to Remember" quest for the mod to have it's full functionality.

[MysticDaedra]

I went into MCM but it said the mod was already running.

 

I did sleep at an inn, but I didn't end up in the Dreamworld. I haven't completed the Night to Remember quest yet... Might that solve the issue?

[Destynova99]

^

I keep forgetting about that! I haven't been enslaved and escaped yet. I suppose dying is expected then? Even with DA on (with everything SD related checked)? I remember before (long time ago) I wouldn't die, even if I hadn't been enslaved before. I would simply be enslaved, unless it was an animal that killed me, or a fall, or if it was a non-faction member that killed me. Hopefully, the redguards that are after the Bannered Mare wench enslave now. I tried a million times back-in-the-day, but no gravy.

 

Man, I've been using SD forever! I'm officially "growing up with" SD.

 

Thanks jbezorg! Thanks skyrimll!

 

I think Death Alternative is supposed to kick in unless it's one of those "non-valid" deaths. What all counts as non-valid, I have no clue. But I believe that once you've activated Dreamworld that any time you have a death where nothing else is valid that you're suppose to go to Dreamworld. But until you've activated Dreamworld those deaths in which Death Alternative doesn't have a hook for would result in a reload.

[jonjonzz]

I just installed SD+, everything seems to have installed correctly and I get no error messages/CTDs. Almost immediately after loading my save game I got killed by one of the little fire bugs on Solstheim, and I was given the Flowering Spriggan quest. I lost all of my stuff, got the Spriggan Host armor and a single Spriggan Sap item... but the quest doesn't point to a location, and nothing else seems to be happening. My follower says that I smell sweet every now and again, but that's pretty much it.

 

What do I need to do to finish the quest and get my stuff back? Is this a common problem? I don't see any other posts in this thread about it, so I figured I'd check in and see if there is a solution, or if everything is working fine and I am just too dumb to figure it out

 

Check with townspeople, some are quite versed on Skyrim lore, or maybe check to see if a library might have some literature on the issue.

 

 

 

There is a random greeting from people that will trigger the quest, talk to people, A LOT of people. There is also a book in the Arcaneum, though I can't recall the name off the top of my head.

 

 

 

[MysticDaedra]

I just completed the Night to Remember quest... but I see no "Install" option in MCM for SB+. I looked at the little help thing in MCM about installing, and it said to select the options under the Status page, then select "Install". I can't do that because the options are all grayed out. Do I need to reinstall/reset the mod maybe?

[xgkf]

The grayed out stuff is fine. If you can see and can click either "Install" or "Begin" on that screen, do so.

[MysticDaedra]

That's what I was trying to say, there is no "Install" or "Begin" option on that screen, or anywhere in the SD+ MCM menu. However, playing just now an NPC did talk to me, and I now have the updated quest to find a book at the Arcaneum. 

 

While in this quasi-dead state (not sure what to call it: I died, and then the Death Alternative thing happened starting the Flowering Spriggan quest) I was killed again, but all that happens over and over again is my PC gets hogtied, and some sort of quest thing happens. I can here the quest-update sound being played, but I have no HUD, and I can't look around or move my PC. I can jump and raise my weapons, but that is all. Is it possible this would be solved once I finish with the Flowering Spriggan quest and get out of the quasi-dead state?

[xgkf]

That's odd, then, because there should be an "Install" option on that screen, followed/replaced by a "Begin" option once it's ready. Wish I could help more, but I'm really not sure what could be happening there.

[AwfulArchdemon]

@MysticDaedra:

If you are doing a spriggan quest, then obviously you already "installed" SD. It's "uninstall" that you should see there now.

 

Your stuff is probably in DW.

[jfraser]

No, if you're doing the spriggan quest, your stuff will be collectible once you finish the quest. Reading the book from the arcanum will point you to a spriggan grove. If you don't see a map marker, it's probably in Solsteim. Go there, wait for it to finish, and there will be a spriggan husk on the ground that contains your gear.

[AwfulArchdemon]

Ah, I haven't done the spriggan mission on this version yet. Now I know better than to look in DW for my stuff if I do the spriggan mission.

[KingWrzd]

Hi

I really like the idea of this mod, but is it possible to use this mod without devious devices.

1. Having trouble getting them to work with NMM

2. I don't really care for BDSM in general.

 

I'm also just learning this modding business and basically depend on NMM. I've been trying manual installs but with no luck. My game works fine without SD+ but ctd when I install. Devious Devices is not installing with NMM meaning I have to manual install which is my problem.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi

I really like the idea of this mod, but is it possible to use this mod without devious devices.

1. Having trouble getting them to work with NMM

2. I don't really care for BDSM in general.

 

I'm also just learning this modding business and basically depend on NMM. I've been trying manual installs but with no luck. My game works fine without SD+ but ctd when I install. Devious Devices is not installing with NMM meaning I have to manual install which is my problem.

 

Unfortunately, that is not going to happen.

 

Devious Devices will be used in the next version to manage any kind of device forced onto the player. That includes collar and shackles when enslaved, wearing a spriggan host armor, and eventually, wearing sanguine's daedric slavery items.

 

On your second point, I am not sure SD is something you should be using if you don't care much about BDSM

[dje34]

Ok, so after being enslaved and giving more gold than enough to the Owner, he still doesn't want to release me.

 

I also tried the 'strong hand to guide me' thing on another save and same 'problem' happened.

 

So, my questions are :

 

1) Is gold a real way to get released ?

 

2) Should there be a new dialogue being released (as I never saw it popping) when the gold amount is reached ?

 

3) Is there a way to take a shit or a piss when hands bound ?

 

4) How to customize the 'demerits' thing ? It seems to get high too quickly and lowers too slowly for me.

 

EDIT - My bad, the quest to get released failed for some reason, and it seems once it fails the amount of gold to get released in the mcm menu is set to 0 by itself...

[KingWrzd]

 

Hi

I really like the idea of this mod, but is it possible to use this mod without devious devices.

1. Having trouble getting them to work with NMM

2. I don't really care for BDSM in general.

 

I'm also just learning this modding business and basically depend on NMM. I've been trying manual installs but with no luck. My game works fine without SD+ but ctd when I install. Devious Devices is not installing with NMM meaning I have to manual install which is my problem.

 

Unfortunately, that is not going to happen.

 

Devious Devices will be used in the next version to manage any kind of device forced onto the player. That includes collar and shackles when enslaved, wearing a spriggan host armor, and eventually, wearing sanguine's daedric slavery items.

 

On your second point, I am not sure SD is something you should be using if you don't care much about BDSM

 

Thanks for the responds

 Maybe you are right about the bdsm. With Zaz and Submit I ran into a scene of pillory with a bandit and my pc and I really liked it. I just wanted to add more quest options for scenarios like that (I might have budding interest in bdsm). Would that S3 - slavery mod be better for "less" bdsm or what. 

Also thanks again.

[magicrealm]

finally i installed vanilla plus the 3 dlcs, exactly the description of skyrim2 sd+ page, included fuzrodoh and realistic ragdolls.

i added alternate start live another life and better males favoured souls body for males. nothing else.

maybe we have to discuss how to build up the female Body exactly, step by step, because with this Installation, Boss and finis over it i get

 

the flying horse !!

 

now this is something everybody can proof. it s just what is written on this mods description page.

start a new game, shortest way is a guild, companions, run to stables, Player.additem f 1000 for the horse. take a ride,  make a save on horseback, load the save and ... FLY !         see screenshot.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Ok, so after being enslaved and giving more gold than enough to the Owner, he still doesn't want to release me.

 

I also tried the 'strong hand to guide me' thing on another save and same 'problem' happened.

 

So, my questions are :

 

1) Is gold a real way to get released ?

 

Yes... but it is broken right now.

 

2) Should there be a new dialogue being released (as I never saw it popping) when the gold amount is reached ?

 

Yes. There should be a dialogue. You may have to wait 3 ingame days before being released though.

 

3) Is there a way to take a shit or a piss when hands bound ?

 

I don't use that kind of 'needs', so I never tested it. Eat, drink and sleep is as far as I am ready to go

Maybe some else figured out a way to do that.

 

4) How to customize the 'demerits' thing ? It seems to get high too quickly and lowers too slowly for me.

 

It is not customizable right now but the next system will get rid of demerits altogether and will provide a more challenging experience if it works as intended.

 

EDIT - My bad, the quest to get released failed for some reason, and it seems once it fails the amount of gold to get released in the mcm menu is set to 0 by itself...

 

[dje34]

 

 

 

Ok, so after being enslaved and giving more gold than enough to the Owner, he still doesn't want to release me.

 

I also tried the 'strong hand to guide me' thing on another save and same 'problem' happened.

 

So, my questions are :

 

1) Is gold a real way to get released ?

 

Yes... but it is broken right now.

 

2) Should there be a new dialogue being released (as I never saw it popping) when the gold amount is reached ?

 

Yes. There should be a dialogue. You may have to wait 3 ingame days before being released though.

 

3) Is there a way to take a shit or a piss when hands bound ?

 

I don't use that kind of 'needs', so I never tested it. Eat, drink and sleep is as far as I am ready to go

Maybe some else figured out a way to do that.

 

4) How to customize the 'demerits' thing ? It seems to get high too quickly and lowers too slowly for me.

 

It is not customizable right now but the next system will get rid of demerits altogether and will provide a more challenging experience if it works as intended.

 

EDIT - My bad, the quest to get released failed for some reason, and it seems once it fails the amount of gold to get released in the mcm menu is set to 0 by itself...

 

 

 

 

Thank you for your answers. I'm looking forward to the next version.

 

Now, I've got another post you did not answer, maybe 'cause you didn't see it, it's this one

 

Could you please give me an answer for this (last) question as well ?

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

 

Ok, so after being enslaved and giving more gold than enough to the Owner, he still doesn't want to release me.

 

I also tried the 'strong hand to guide me' thing on another save and same 'problem' happened.

 

So, my questions are :

 

1) Is gold a real way to get released ?

 

Yes... but it is broken right now.

 

2) Should there be a new dialogue being released (as I never saw it popping) when the gold amount is reached ?

 

Yes. There should be a dialogue. You may have to wait 3 ingame days before being released though.

 

3) Is there a way to take a shit or a piss when hands bound ?

 

I don't use that kind of 'needs', so I never tested it. Eat, drink and sleep is as far as I am ready to go

Maybe some else figured out a way to do that.

 

4) How to customize the 'demerits' thing ? It seems to get high too quickly and lowers too slowly for me.

 

It is not customizable right now but the next system will get rid of demerits altogether and will provide a more challenging experience if it works as intended.

 

EDIT - My bad, the quest to get released failed for some reason, and it seems once it fails the amount of gold to get released in the mcm menu is set to 0 by itself...

 

 

 

 

Thank you for your answers. I'm looking forward to the next version.

 

Now, I've got another post you did not answer, maybe 'cause you didn't see it, it's this one

 

Could you please give me an answer for this (last) question as well ?

 

That's a known bug. I am still investigating it when I have time.

[MysticDaedra]

So no one has any idea what could be causing the loss of player control/HUD when waking from blackout? My PC just stands there with her clothes off, and I can't look around or do anything really. Any ideas?