Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi, have a little trouble with death alternative, I don't like how it works, but I like your mod. Is there any ability to configurate death alternative to work like there is no mod, but with working functions that uses your mod?

The only thing you can do is disable all scenarios in DA except the ones starting with SD.

[Gh0sTG0]

 

Hi, have a little trouble with death alternative, I don't like how it works, but I like your mod. Is there any ability to configurate death alternative to work like there is no mod, but with working functions that uses your mod?

The only thing you can do is disable all scenarios in DA except the ones starting with SD.

 

Thanks, would try to do this tomorrow.

[originalwankster]

Okay, "You opponents are blinded by lust", is that a SD+ thing or what, because it keeps popping up and interfering with the bleedout process.

It's not from Defeat, it's not from Submit, so it must be from this mod, but I thought rape-on-capture or whatever was removed from this mod? I'm definitely using the most recent version.

 

Second, feature question, any plans of using Aroused values to have Owners spontaneously rape you when they're horny enough, or are you just leaving that to Lovers Victim type mods?

[DeepBlueFrog]

Okay, "You opponents are blinded by lust", is that a SD+ thing or what, because it keeps popping up and interfering with the bleedout process.

It's not from Defeat, it's not from Submit, so it must be from this mod, but I thought rape-on-capture or whatever was removed from this mod? I'm definitely using the most recent version.

 

Second, feature question, any plans of using Aroused values to have Owners spontaneously rape you when they're horny enough, or are you just leaving that to Lovers Victim type mods?

 

Lovers victim is already doing that. I am not going to reproduce it.

SD already has its own variation of that with Coveted.

 

'Blinded by lust' is from SD and will be probably disabled in upcoming versions.

 

If you are seeing it a lot, it means that you should be dead and you are not (the only time that scene kicks in). 

 

In other words, you are essential or immortal at that time (most of the time temporarily).

 

I don't have a way to disable it in the version you are using though, so the only thing you can do is try to tune DA and Defeat to kick in before you get to that point (augment the health buffer in DA for example).

[JuliusXX]

Anyone ever found the Sanguine statue with the three girls? 

That is what I call a nice easter egg!

 

 

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So this is where that comes. I was also a little surprised when I found it. BTW maybe there could be some events if you stole the ruby from the statue

[five_by_five]

Is there any way to dial back the visits to the Dreamworld? PC tries to go to sleep, poof, Dreamworld. I ask to be sent back, works well enough, try to get back to bed, poof, Dreamworld. Seriously?

Not only is nothing really happening there, I also find bodies covered in blood from head to toe actively disgusting. The more so if they engage in sex. Which sort of turns my PC into a nun when she gets the gag thing before being sent back

And last but not least is my game prone to crashing when I enter the Dreamworld. Like one time out of three, for whichever reason.

[Atreides__]

I don't know if this is related with SD or Death Alternative but everytime i get enslaved and cuffed in the ground the game just freeze 1-2 sec after(except sounds like heart breath). I tried doing the classic way about deactivating all mods and trying different combinations but still freezing so i gave up and reported here. I must say this mod worked perfectly before the DA dependency maybe the problem is related with DA?. I'm just using the basic DA(no capture submod, etc) and SD.

 

 

Thanks!.

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I don't know if this is related with SD or Death Alternative but everytime i get enslaved and cuffed in the ground the game just freeze 1-2 sec after(except sounds like heart breath). I tried doing the classic way about deactivating all mods and trying different combinations but still freezing so i gave up and reported here. I must say this mod worked perfectly before the DA dependency maybe the problem is related with DA?. I'm just using the basic DA(no capture submod, etc) and SD.

 

 

Thanks!.

Did you try disabling ragdoll in DA's bleed out effect? Only keep bleed out, not ragdoll.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Is there any way to dial back the visits to the Dreamworld? PC tries to go to sleep, poof, Dreamworld. I ask to be sent back, works well enough, try to get back to bed, poof, Dreamworld. Seriously?

Not only is nothing really happening there, I also find bodies covered in blood from head to toe actively disgusting. The more so if they engage in sex. Which sort of turns my PC into a nun when she gets the gag thing before being sent back

And last but not least is my game prone to crashing when I enter the Dreamworld. Like one time out of three, for whichever reason.

There should be only 5% chance of being sent back to Dreamworld on sleep.

 

If you go there every time you sleep, there is a bug.

[Buffmutti]

 

Is there any way to dial back the visits to the Dreamworld? PC tries to go to sleep, poof, Dreamworld. I ask to be sent back, works well enough, try to get back to bed, poof, Dreamworld. Seriously?

Not only is nothing really happening there, I also find bodies covered in blood from head to toe actively disgusting. The more so if they engage in sex. Which sort of turns my PC into a nun when she gets the gag thing before being sent back

And last but not least is my game prone to crashing when I enter the Dreamworld. Like one time out of three, for whichever reason.

There should be only 5% chance of being sent back to Dreamworld on sleep.

 

If you go there every time you sleep, there is a bug.

 

 

This happened to me too a while ago and then Skyrimll gave me the tip to check for the demerits in the console (type 'help "demerits" ') and if  _SD_demerits is too high i should set this number to 0. After doing this everything went back to normal. Is this maybe the same bug?

[five_by_five]

Well given I got my last Master (a Bandit Chief) killed by dragging him all the way from his boring cave to some patrolling guards I expect i will have some "demerits" {evil giggle}

Unfortunately Masters tend to be "sole survivors" of their gangs ...

But what exactly is "too high" for demerits? Either way, I wil play around a bit with that and see what it does.

 

And no, it's not every time, but about 50% of the times I go to sleep. Definitely not 5%.

 

Independant of that, mind doing a "no gore" MCM option in the future, skyrimll? I can't be the only one who thinks buckets of blood and sexual scenes don't mix too well ... and deactivating those decals cant be that complicated, technically.

 

 

 

[LordZulten]

Okay, I decided to try this out again, and I seem to be having just as many issues as before. I have death alternative and this mod working together, and defeat installed as well.. When I die to a human, I bleed, it triggers a rape scene, and then I am left standing there. It starts the enslaved quest, however my camera is locked on my character standing next to the assualter, who continuously greets me. 

I dare say this is not how the mod is supposed to function.


"Yes? What do you want? Yes?"


Anything standing out here?

Edit: I installed some compatibility patch and it helped. Oddly enough

[Lyman the Lunatic]

Got bored so I send my char. to 1 of the Redwater Den. (A Dawnguard place)

Her vampire master can't speak, I also have SD Dawnguard on so I have no idea what's up with that. Other than that, her master got stupid, he stepped on a trap & instantly killed (another 1 of those run away by not running away cases). I also noticed that Sanguinare Vampiris doesn't work as a STD anymore, although seeing my char. get plowed & forcefully turned into a vampire is fun, but being turned by having sex with 1 is ridiculous but that's the closest as it's gonna get so eh...

 

Still wish vampire slave is back to SD though.

 

PS. I still can't find the statue.

[LordZulten]

Okay I know you have come a long ways with this mod, but I would like to point out a few things if I could.


Not sure if this could be conflicts with my current mods, but I will mention anyway.


Master doesn't really follow me. I was enslaved by movarth (The enchanted spiders quest) and got bored of dancing to try to get him to free me, so I decided to flat out just walk away and out of the dungeon. I never got any sort of notification saying I had escaped.. but I had. The area I walked HAD to be outside of his escape radius. Given the benefit of the doubt, I even left the dungeon and walked halfway across skyrim with no notification. The annoying part is that I could not remove the bindings. I picked up several weapons to try to cut the ropes with no success. 

 

Some of the things I had issues with also include that my gold kept getting stolen by my master. Perhaps this was some sort of way to buy my freedom but it wasn't working for me. I did get to the point where I asked if I could buy my freedom, but I was still bound even when he accepted. It doesn't make much sense to me that I would dance to get paid by him and have him take the money back to earn my freedom.

 

The whipping scene could use some work, seeing how the sound of the weapon is nothing like a whip, and is delayed by a second or two. xaz prison overhaul had a good whip sound that you could probably use to improve this.

Another issue is that I got transported to the dream world and I haven't even become in service to sanguine. I am level one, and usually like to wait until I do the drinking quest before I become enslaved that route. 

Please take these comments with a grain of salt because I don't mean to insult the mod. I can see it being very promising and it alters a lot of the gameplay.. these are just some things that stood out to me.. Also this could be due to the fact that I have about 235 mods enabled as well.

Also a side note: I tried that ENB that you suggested, and I like it. Thank you for adding to my post

[DeepBlueFrog]

Got bored so I send my char. to 1 of the Redwater Den. (A Dawnguard place)

Her vampire master can't speak, I also have SD Dawnguard on so I have no idea what's up with that. Other than that, her master got stupid, he stepped on a trap & instantly killed (another 1 of those run away by not running away cases). I also noticed that Sanguinare Vampiris doesn't work as a STD anymore, although seeing my char. get plowed & forcefully turned into a vampire is fun, but being turned by having sex with 1 is ridiculous but that's the closest as it's gonna get so eh...

 

Still wish vampire slave is back to SD though.

 

PS. I still can't find the statue.

 

 

Try the caves under the Honningbrew Brewry

 

[originalwankster]

Man I am really not digging this Death Alternative thing. It seems very finnicky. Almost every time I black out (I managed to mostly get around the "blind with lust" issue), it says I'm blacking out, then I get the "blacking out" blur filter over my screen, but then I just get back up and regain control of my character as usual, but with the screen filter persisting. I've gotten blackout to work properly a handful of times and they all seem to have been flukes.  Has anyone else experienced this/found a way around it?

 

Also, has anyone gotten SPERG to work right with SD+? It keeps putting "Fists" weapons into my inventory automatically even though I turned that feature off, and having these in the inventory breaks slavery, so I have to ninja-remove them right before Enslaved starts every time.

 

EDIT: Okay now something else has started happening for some reason, without me even doing anything. Now the blackout triggers every time, but it only triggers the default DA quest, never SD+. When I disable the other blackout events and just leave SD+ as an option, I just die after blacking out. So it seems DA has suddenly decided SD+ just doesn't exist even though I didn't even change anything.

Oh and even when I blackout into the default quest I still have the blurred screen, so I think that's a separate DA bug from whatever's preventing SD+ from happening.

[LordZulten]

Man I am really not digging this Death Alternative thing. It seems very finnicky. Almost every time I black out (I managed to mostly get around the "blind with lust" issue), it says I'm blacking out, then I get the "blacking out" blur filter over my screen, but then I just get back up and regain control of my character as usual, but with the screen filter persisting. I've gotten blackout to work properly a handful of times and they all seem to have been flukes.  Has anyone else experienced this/found a way around it?

 

Also, has anyone gotten SPERG to work right with SD+? It keeps putting "Fists" weapons into my inventory automatically even though I turned that feature off, and having these in the inventory breaks slavery, so I have to ninja-remove them right before Enslaved starts every time.

I have issues with DA too. It is a cool system but for me it basically just makes me fall, adds the filter, which I typically can see through, and I see my character get flipped upside-down and usually it loads me somewhere new. I've been teleported like 16 times to dreamworld and occasionally somewhere else. lol

[xgkf]

I haven't had any issues getting SD+ to trigger correctly with DA. The game kinda spazzes out for a second during the actual process of getting enslaved (my character kinda walks/floats/slides around the immediate area for a second before warping back and lying down face-first with her bindings now attached), followed by the ensuing punishment scene or whatever, but that scene and the actual enslavement afterward has played out more-or-less just fine.

 

 

One issue I did just have earlier today was, while in prison via Prison Overhaul, I went to sleep in the provided cot and was teleported to the Dreamworld (my first visit). Not necessarily a problem in and of itself, but a guard had apparently queued up to give her a quick pounding at some point before the teleportation occurred because that sex animation played out as soon as the teleportation to the Dreamworld finished (meaning my character was going through the animation of getting raped, but the guard raping her wasn't there). The other problem was that the teleportation apparently glitched and dropped me off on top of a ridge, trapping me there because I couldn't jump down off of the ridge onto the path below (invisible wall blocking me). My character was also still bound in her shackles, meaning I couldn't jump either to try and work my way around. I also couldn't no-clip my way out, because for whatever reason the "tcl" command wasn't doing anything. Maybe the ability to use that just gets disabled by Prison Overhaul or Devious Devices, though, so I don't know if that was an issue related to this or not.

[Golgo13]

Idk if the mod is working properly, or if it somehow got bugged somewhere along the way.  Since there's a possibility that I'm trying to "figure out" something that has no solution because it's broken, I'm finally breaking down and asking about it.  I'm probably too patient for my own good: if this turns out to be a bug that cropped up, I have SO MANY HOURS of game to play over, again.

 

At some point, when the character became enslaved, there was no longer an option to "please" the master or earn money for him/her.  The only option I have is giving items to the "master;" of course, tens of thousands in gold just become confiscated at the same time.  I'm told that "slaves have no need for gold."

 

Even though the value of items needed for buyout was originally set to something like 450 gold, I lowered it to 300 when I found the setting (while trying to figure out why I couldn't make any progress, anymore).  No matter how the items are valued, I had 6 dragon bones and 6 dragon scales, and I-don't-know-how-many assorted gems in my inventory when I was captured... the dragon bones, alone, have a base worth of 3000 gold; but, the "master" wasn't the least bit inclined to let me go, even after being given EVERYTHING.

 

The only way to make any progress is just to kneel next to the "master" for freakin' EVER while the counter gradually ticks down.  I just never have the patience to finish that out-- once I discovered that, no matter what I offered in payment, it was never enough, I just always ended up getting impatient and running away; if I died, the worst that would happen would be that I ended up back with Sanguine.

 

I strongly suspect that I'm supposed to be able to do more than just silently kneel by the "master," offer items, or ask "How am I doing?" (with the items never mattering, no matter how many, or what their value, and asking the question setting my progress back).  And, if I offer items, I suspect that some amount of items is supposed to buy my freedom.  But, since there might be something about the mod I don't understand, I thought I'd ask.

 

Either way, I need to know what to do.  If it's not working, removing/reinstalling this mod is extremely hazardous to my game's health, so I need to know how to go about it (if anything is possible).  I saved the game from before I installed this mod; but, I played even more time with the mod than I did without it, so, it won't be a great comfort even if I can roll it back without screwing things up, somehow.

[ssdd2014]

Ok, I don't know if anyone has this yet, but for me none of the gags from zaz anim 0.553 are appeaaring on my character (only the anal beads are appearing). If I use ZAz 0.552 everything appears fine. I have tested this multiple times with same result.

[Morferous]

Ok, I don't know if anyone has this yet, but for me none of the gags from zaz anim 0.553 are appeaaring on my character (only the anal beads are appearing). If I use ZAz 0.552 everything appears fine. I have tested this multiple times with same result.

 

Yes. This is a known issue.

ZAZ was updated and few keywords were changed during the process.

We were warned that mods that have not yet caught up with the new names would still work, but all items would not be displayed properly.

SD+ is one of those mods and we hear that skyrimII is working with an update.

[Destynova99]

 

Also, has anyone gotten SPERG to work right with SD+? It keeps putting "Fists" weapons into my inventory automatically even though I turned that feature off, and having these in the inventory breaks slavery, so I have to ninja-remove them right before Enslaved starts every time.

 

Damn I've been trying to figure out why enslavement wasn't working for me for days now... and it was due to SPERG. Even disabling everything related to the unarmed skill and pickpocket tree doesn't remove the "fists" weapons from being automatically equipped and setting the "limited removal" option in SD+ doesn't work either. I think the only way we'll get SPERG to work with it is if SD+ could be made to "ignore" the fists since I don't think there's a way to prevent SPERG from equipping them... and dropping them just makes them get re-added automatically.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

 

Also, has anyone gotten SPERG to work right with SD+? It keeps putting "Fists" weapons into my inventory automatically even though I turned that feature off, and having these in the inventory breaks slavery, so I have to ninja-remove them right before Enslaved starts every time.

Damn I've been trying to figure out why enslavement wasn't working for me for days now... and it was due to SPERG. Even disabling everything related to the unarmed skill and pickpocket tree doesn't remove the "fists" weapons from being automatically equipped and setting the "limited removal" option in SD+ doesn't work either. I think the only way we'll get SPERG to work with it is if SD+ could be made to "ignore" the fists since I don't think there's a way to prevent SPERG from equipping them... and dropping them just makes them get re-added automatically.

If anyone familiar with SPERG can find out if there is a reliable keyword I can look for to detect the fists, I could try to exclude them.

[Lyman the Lunatic]

 

 

PS. I still can't find the statue.

 

 

 

I found a door that leads to nowhere. So I consoled myself there, don't know what's the deal with that guy. Any plans with him in the future?

[Destynova99]

If anyone familiar with SPERG can find out if there is a reliable keyword I can look for to detect the fists, I could try to exclude them.

 

The fists in SPERG don't have keywords as is, but I could easily add one or more via a compatibility patch if I knew which keyword(s) to add. So if there's an existing keyword in SD+ that would cause the fists to be ignored if applied I can do that rather quickly.