Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

As i said i like the new random rape system with the submit/resist option a lot. It's starting to happen quite frequently now, so i wonder though if there are special triggers recognizing special situations like long heavy player punishment. Hasn't happened so far in my current playthrough, but i think the random rapes might be very harmful should the player be under Xaz PO treatment, Captured Dreams punishment or similiar.

 

Has anybody tried it yet? Do random rapes happen then and if they do do they tend to break the other mods punishment scenes or do they queue and work together well?

 

They don't queue up, but they come up with a popup menu to let you decide to go on or resist / cancel to avoid weird interferences.

 

 

The resist option has given me some problems though. It always started the small animation with the player going to knees. If the popup occured while i was in a dialogue the player controls weren't enabled when using the resist option, otherwise it worked fine.

 

But you also mention cancel, so can i cancel the event completely? I only see submit/resist as options, so how do i activate the complete cancel then?

 

Sorry for the bugging, but sometimes i can be blind as a bat ....... .

 

 

 

Resist is cancel.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Is the option to pay your way out of slavery broken?  I've had the dialogue option of "I have something to give you," the owner seems to take gold, and then I'm just still enslaved.  Even checking my status with "How am I doing" shows 0 gold remaining.  Am I doing something wrong?

 

Otherwise, really enjoying this, keep it up!

 

That's still broken if you repeat the quest.

The first time should work through.

 

I am working on a solution but it will take some time.

[ErikModi]

Hmm, it was first time.  Maybe I screwed something up.

[McChuckles]

defeat doesn't want to proc most of the time. sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't, I have it set the the settings i was told to by the guide. do i need the latest version of defeat?

[DeepBlueFrog]

defeat doesn't want to proc, so i go right to bleedout. I have it set up like they say in the guide. do i need the latest version of defeat or is sexlab defeat still viable. someone plz help

 

You do need the latest version of Defeat to have improved compatibility with DA.

[xgkf]

Also, keep in mind that the newest version of Defeat (v5b3) is *supposed* to go into BleedOut before triggering. Having DA installed along with Defeat means that Defeat will let DA take over as far as its trigger mechanism (the health/endurance knockdown thresholds set in Defeat's MCM become meaningless).

[McChuckles]

defeat doesn't want to proc most of the time. sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't, I have it set the the settings i was told to by the guide. do i need the latest version of defeat?

 

have latest version of defeat now but still its giving me trouble. now instead of going into bleedout character just stands there unmoving. even worse now ive just tried with wolves.

[FYIMeltdown]

Has anyone else had an issue where none of the gag items will show up? I was able to see one in my inventory, and the effect seems to be working. I get the notification that it has been equipped, but I don't see anything. The character just kind of sits there with mouth hanging open.

[Lord Ariakas]

Hi all, I got a funny problem with SD+

version 1.16 as I am using this because Death alternative is not working fir me for some reason. 1.16 worked always fine.

I got 3 accounts in MO. 2 of them have SD+ installed.

I have problem with the 3. One, I have Requiem on it,

and for some reason when I click on the install button in mcm at SD+ I step out from the menus, wait...I got the messages SD intalling, SD installed... When I go back to the menu I still have the install option as the mod hasnt been installed before. I tried to install it several times, got the same result.I tried reload the save, disable SD make a clean save no use.

Anybody can help with that? Why I cant install the mod? Is it not compatible with Requiem?

[Lyman the Lunatic]

I came here as quickly as possible...

 

So, there's a guy uploaded a mod for Death Alternative which works kind of exactly like SD but without sex (I think, I haven't tested it) on the Nexus. Based on the mod description, it only contains enslavement & thralling (thralling was in SD, but later removed. I still wish it is restored at some point in the future, it was pretty kinky). THe description also said that it also use Zaz stuff so I feel like the mod author might also be on LL as well. So I was wondering, will there be integrations or conflicts between that mod & your mod in the future?

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi all, I got a funny problem with SD+

version 1.16 as I am using this because Death alternative is not working fir me for some reason. 1.16 worked always fine.

I got 3 accounts in MO. 2 of them have SD+ installed.

I have problem with the 3. One, I have Requiem on it,

and for some reason when I click on the install button in mcm at SD+ I step out from the menus, wait...I got the messages SD intalling, SD installed... When I go back to the menu I still have the install option as the mod hasnt been installed before. I tried to install it several times, got the same result.I tried reload the save, disable SD make a clean save no use.

Anybody can help with that? Why I cant install the mod? Is it not compatible with Requiem?

 

I hope someone can give you an answer because 1) I don't use 1.16 anymore and 2) I don't use MO either.

 

I can tell you that SD 1.16 does work with Requiem though. I have had Requiem enabled in my load order for a while now.

[Vithiss]

I came here as quickly as possible...

 

So, there's a guy uploaded a mod for Death Alternative which works kind of exactly like SD but without sex (I think, I haven't tested it) on the Nexus. Based on the mod description, it only contains enslavement & thralling (thralling was in SD, but later removed. I still wish it is restored at some point in the future, it was pretty kinky). THe description also said that it also use Zaz stuff so I feel like the mod author might also be on LL as well. So I was wondering, will there be integrations or conflicts between that mod & your mod in the future?

 

Do you mean this http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54867/? ?

If so, it is by the author of DA.

I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, though I have downloaded it. They should be distinct events from SD so should not conflict.

I think.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

I came here as quickly as possible...

 

So, there's a guy uploaded a mod for Death Alternative which works kind of exactly like SD but without sex (I think, I haven't tested it) on the Nexus. Based on the mod description, it only contains enslavement & thralling (thralling was in SD, but later removed. I still wish it is restored at some point in the future, it was pretty kinky). THe description also said that it also use Zaz stuff so I feel like the mod author might also be on LL as well. So I was wondering, will there be integrations or conflicts between that mod & your mod in the future?

 

Do you mean this http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54867/? ?

If so, it is by the author of DA.

I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, though I have downloaded it. They should be distinct events from SD so should not conflict.

I think.

 

 

Just give these events a higher priority that SD enslavement if you want them to 'win' all the time.

 

Otherwise, play with the % Chance of enslavement in SD's menu to give a better chance to these events to kick in.

 

Since they are both DA scenarios, there should be no conflict. 

Just don't except SD's mechanic when enslaved by DA's captured events.

[OH1972]

Hi all, I got a funny problem with SD+

version 1.16 as I am using this because Death alternative is not working fir me for some reason. 1.16 worked always fine.

I got 3 accounts in MO. 2 of them have SD+ installed.

I have problem with the 3. One, I have Requiem on it,

and for some reason when I click on the install button in mcm at SD+ I step out from the menus, wait...I got the messages SD intalling, SD installed... When I go back to the menu I still have the install option as the mod hasnt been installed before. I tried to install it several times, got the same result.I tried reload the save, disable SD make a clean save no use.

Anybody can help with that? Why I cant install the mod? Is it not compatible with Requiem?

 

Don't think it has anything to do with MO. I've got four profiles on MO, and SD+ is installed on three of them and working.

[magicrealm]

@ magicrealm, i can expand your post, special AFT - 31 slots and with new version of DA my 31 slots are now after looting 31 dead stray dogs, full with 31 dead stray dogs   no more chance to get Lydia or my beloved Alicia as follower. too DA blocks/*destroys* for me a lot of other LL mods like *lovers victim* no more naked rape party with 3 girls running around naked, instead DA-blackscreen and struggle for main and freeze for followers. and how *funny* are the DA - blackscreen - struggle events when using DD-Capture Dreams Tormentor, lol struggling around with *blah...Blah* up to broken DD animation up to freezing, no more sitting around followers who are watching the fun, instead frozen in fight stance now lol. defeat - no more vampire rapes, only DA - blackscreen - bleedout bar - struggling around. no rape nor my followers get some fun. i can expand this a lot more with fun breaking things DA is doing with other LL mods and other mods i have installed. after deleting it the fun is back and i have 31 free AFT-slots back, imagine that 31 free AFT slots.

@skyrimill, i real love your work and still have your other mods (Alicia, the stories...) installed, but sadly i must say, after this experiments (see above) i said goodbye to my most favorite mod, i have been using from early beginning, going with its up and downs and i loved your expansion of this great mod. but the implement of DA broke so much fun for me with some LL-mods and other mods i`ve running, that i decited to say goodbye to this wonderfull mod. you do and have done a great work with SD+ but sadly and much weeping i say goodbye to SD+ with DA requirement.

 

AFT and convenient horses are the two columns on which my game stands. i will never deinstall one of them.

4.51 works well with aft, it works witth defeat 4 and sd+. no Need to go on da 4.55, if that breaks aft..

post in da Forum at Nexus, maybe a Version will come up that regards compability with Multi follower mods.

 

[magicrealm]

 

you cannot uncheck the bleedout mode, you can only uncheck the soulgame event, which will not trigger if you dont have a filled soulem in inventory anyway.

 

have you ever played a game with da, defat and sd ?

 

`how can you say that sd, da and defeat can work together work very well. ?

they dont work together at all, it is chaos.

 

i spend more  than a WEEK now testing it and i see what is going on at my Screen.

i kick defeat 5 not only for incompability with da, because NO RAPE HAPPENS IN DEFEATS THRESHOLD EVEN IF IT IS 1-80%, how often shall i repeat it.

PLUS the tiptaptiptaptaiptap struggle bar. now be careful not to let you watch you by doing that, they may send you in a psychic clinic. thats what that tiptaptiptap strugglebar is.

 

we dont come one step further. you neglet reality, you dont play your mod ingame, you havent tiptaptiptaptiptap the struggle bar, etc.

so all thats left for the gamers is to deinstall the mods.

 

Goubo has said by design when Defeat is running along side with DA that the health percentages for knock down are disabled. Only on bleedout will the knockdown-rape events happen. He has said he will consider activating the old style knockdowns when DA is present in the game. So not getting knockdowns in the 1-80% range is how the mod is intended to work, not a bug or incompatibility between Defeat and DA.

 

Personally I think no knockdowns mid-combat makes more sense. If someone is able to knock you down and rape you, you really have been rendered helpless and should not be jumping back up to continue the fight. The fight should be over at that point.

 

I have seen you complain many times about mods not working. You should have been around long enough to know that providing your mod load order and papyrus logs are needed for all but the most basic debugging steps. I don't recall seeing that you have ever done so. Not doing so yet consistently complaining about bugs may give some people the impression that you are more interested in complaining about bugs than fixing them. That you have spent over a week testing the mods argues that you do want the bugs fixed. Please consider changing your tone to something more along the lines of a cooperative "let us try to get this working on my system" rather than the accusatory "You have offered up a broken mod." There are plenty of people who have posted that the mods are working for them, so it is proven that the mods are not 100% broken. On the other hand there is no non-trivial software that is 100% bug free, so there must still be bugs lurking somewhere in the mods. Cooperation is a much better route to get bugs fixed than complaining.

 

nice to hear that.

goubo did not say that on his mods descriion page, not in the readme, not in the mcm menu,

he did not disable the health threshold, it is not written in the sanguines Manual. but all say the opposite and give us false informations. great.!  fine you catched this up....by design where ... ? .

now, if the health threshold does not work, and, maybe the Stamina threshold neither  (ny design where ... said ... ? ) then defeat seems to work over the da bleedout state only. so what do you do in defeats mcm menu now with the Player as victim registrations ? you must choose between three nonworking functions ? health, Stamina and both, all nonworking. there is no way not to choose any of them. and you dont know about it if you didnt read it ....by design where... ?

if the defeat rape happens -only- in the da bleedout mode, in which mode is the pc after the rape ? whats going on then?  he falls on the bottom in some injured animatiion, without any Keyboard control, pray the tiptap struggle bar appears so you can get him up, but mostly there is no tiptap struggle bar, it s only ... chaos. if you are lucky you catch a blow from a merci opponent and fall in blackout mode. gratulations.  now you can spend half a day to come back here...for your next ....by design what...?

[Lord Ariakas]

 

 

Hi all, I got a funny problem with SD+

version 1.16 as I am using this because Death alternative is not working fir me for some reason. 1.16 worked always fine.

I got 3 accounts in MO. 2 of them have SD+ installed.

I have problem with the 3. One, I have Requiem on it,

and for some reason when I click on the install button in mcm at SD+ I step out from the menus, wait...I got the messages SD intalling, SD installed... When I go back to the menu I still have the install option as the mod hasnt been installed before. I tried to install it several times, got the same result.I tried reload the save, disable SD make a clean save no use.

Anybody can help with that? Why I cant install the mod? Is it not compatible with Requiem?

Don't think it has anything to do with MO. I've got four profiles on MO, and SD+ is installed on three of them and working.

No it is not Mo, as I wrote I got 3 other profiles with SD on it, running fine.

Strange. Maybe something to do with skyui...

[Morferous]

 

nice to hear that.

goubo did not say that on his mods descriion page, not in the readme, not in the mcm menu,

he did not disable the health threshold, it is not written in the sanguines Manual. but all say the opposite and give us false informations. great.!  fine you catched this up....by design where ... ? .

 

 Fom Defeat's Change Log. DA now handles the defeat change, if conditions are met. It works for me.

 

 

Player as Victim

- Added - Death Alternative category in MCM with some more options for it.

|- DA Defeat Chance : The chance for Defeat scene to be chosen On Bleedout event from DA if the conditions are met. (gender, cooldown etc.)

 

[testarossa]

I found a minor glitch when using the Sacrificial Sriggan mod.  If you enter the dream world wearing the unremovable Spriggan armor your character just sits there with controls disabled.  No movement, inventory, etc.

 

I'm not sure if the Spriggan armor or gloves are doing it, but it's obvious that SD+ is unable to put on the wrist bindings.

 

[Guest]

Hi, something is not working correctly in my SD203.
After losing health and going in the bleedout mode the pc gets enslaved and goes into the prone enslaved position. After that the game freezes, i can still hear sound, combat music and the low-health heartbeat, but the game is completely frozen.
Running SD203, death alternative 401 and death alternative captured. Sexlab 157.
Anyone else had a freeze or it's just me?

[Piiska]

I found the cause for my problems (guards enslaving my character, buggy bandits and character getting stuck) a few pages back, it's the custom race I was using, Ningheim to be specific. When I use a vanilla race everything works fine so is there a way to make this work properly with custom races?

[DeepBlueFrog]

I found a minor glitch when using the Sacrificial Sriggan mod. If you enter the dream world wearing the unremovable Spriggan armor your character just sits there with controls disabled. No movement, inventory, etc.

 

I'm not sure if the Spriggan armor or gloves are doing it, but it's obvious that SD+ is unable to put on the wrist bindings.

That will be fixed once I finish the move it Devious Devices.

 

In the meantime, try using the surrender key K if you get stuck in dreamworld as a spriggan.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I found the cause for my problems (guards enslaving my character, buggy bandits and character getting stuck) a few pages back, it's the custom race I was using, Ningheim to be specific. When I use a vanilla race everything works fine so is there a way to make this work properly with custom races?

Hard to tell since I am not using that race.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi, something is not working correctly in my SD203.

After losing health and going in the bleedout mode the pc gets enslaved and goes into the prone enslaved position. After that the game freezes, i can still hear sound, combat music and the low-health heartbeat, but the game is completely frozen.

Running SD203, death alternative 401 and death alternative captured. Sexlab 157.

Anyone else had a freeze or it's just me?

Try disabling rag doll in DA .

 

Also if you are using DA captured, you should upgrade to DAv4.56

[Nelshai]

Hi. I dunno if this is intentional but every time I get enslaved all my items disappear forever. As in, my master doesn't have them. Are they in a chest or something?

I noticed as well when I had a follower awhile back that whilst my items would go missing my follower's items would not and would be found in the master's inventory.