Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[DeepBlueFrog]

Dont know why but i couldnt get the falmer to enslaved my char,The falmers alwasy kill her and never start the enslavement quest(it works with bandits though).

Two questions:

 

1- are they vanilla Falmers or from another mod? (Monster mod, Dawnguard)

 

2- did you try setting DA 's 'one shot' health buffer to a higher value? Like 300%

[Buffmutti]

Well, sometimes it happens that DA and Skyrim don't like each other.

 

I was in Riverwood "playing" with the Ebony Blade (aka killing everyone in sight xD), after this Massacre i got a Bounty of 3482 Gold on my head, went to Whiterun and expected to be arrested.

 

I was arrested...AND enslaved...at the same time. Being arrested is a vanilla event of Skyrim and being enslaved is a DA event i think. I was arrested, transported to the prison, they took all my stuff (including Quest Items, which was no problem, strange) and 2 seconds later the door opened and i saw my new Owner, a Guard of Whiterun, which shouldn't be possible, because these Guys don't enslave. I guess DA doesn't care about Factions, right?

 

I then used the Safeword to end this enslavement and expected to be still a prisoner, but no, i was free to go, could simply walk to the chest with my belongings, open it (unlocked it with the console), take my stuff and walked out of the Prison, unharmed.

 

Maybe i will walk to Falkreath and "play" again with the Ebony Blade, just to see if it happens again.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Well, sometimes it happens that DA and Skyrim don't like each other.

 

I was in Riverwood "playing" with the Ebony Blade (aka killing everyone in sight xD), after this Massacre i got a Bounty of 3482 Gold on my head, went to Whiterun and expected to be arrested.

 

I was arrested...AND enslaved...at the same time. Being arrested is a vanilla event of Skyrim and being enslaved is a DA event i think. I was arrested, transported to the prison, they took all my stuff (including Quest Items, which was no problem, strange) and 2 seconds later the door opened and i saw my new Owner, a Guard of Whiterun, which shouldn't be possible, because these Guys don't enslave. I guess DA doesn't care about Factions, right?

 

I then used the Safeword to end this enslavement and expected to be still a prisoner, but no, i was free to go, could simply walk to the chest with my belongings, open it (unlocked it with the console), take my stuff and walked out of the Prison, unharmed.

 

Maybe i will walk to Falkreath and "play" again with the Ebony Blade, just to see if it happens again.

 

Enslavement is a SD thing... not DA, especially if your master is renamed 'owner'.

 

Do you have Prison Overhaul installed? an older version maybe?

 

I could see this kind of scenario happening - Prison Overhaul kicks in, sends you to jail just at the same time DA+SD kicks in and enslaves you.  That could send you to jail and have your owner be a prison guard (I can't garantee they are completely removed from the slaver factions).

 

Another possibility is that I played with the idea of having a small chance of enslavement during bleedout. If you were enslaved that way just before DA+Prison Overhaul blackout event kicks in (assuming now you have the latest version of Prison Overhaul), you would end up enslaved and in jail at the same time.

 

The next version of SD removes that sort of enslavement on bleedout for the very same reasons.

[Buffmutti]

 

Well, sometimes it happens that DA and Skyrim don't like each other.

 

I was in Riverwood "playing" with the Ebony Blade (aka killing everyone in sight xD), after this Massacre i got a Bounty of 3482 Gold on my head, went to Whiterun and expected to be arrested.

 

I was arrested...AND enslaved...at the same time. Being arrested is a vanilla event of Skyrim and being enslaved is a DA event i think. I was arrested, transported to the prison, they took all my stuff (including Quest Items, which was no problem, strange) and 2 seconds later the door opened and i saw my new Owner, a Guard of Whiterun, which shouldn't be possible, because these Guys don't enslave. I guess DA doesn't care about Factions, right?

 

I then used the Safeword to end this enslavement and expected to be still a prisoner, but no, i was free to go, could simply walk to the chest with my belongings, open it (unlocked it with the console), take my stuff and walked out of the Prison, unharmed.

 

Maybe i will walk to Falkreath and "play" again with the Ebony Blade, just to see if it happens again.

 

Enslavement is a SD thing... not DA, especially if your master is renamed 'owner'.

 

Do you have Prison Overhaul installed? an older version maybe?

 

I could see this kind of scenario happening - Prison Overhaul kicks in, sends you to jail just at the same time DA+SD kicks in and enslaves you.  That could send you to jail and have your owner be a prison guard (I can't garantee they are completely removed from the slaver factions).

 

Another possibility is that I played with the idea of having a small chance of enslavement during bleedout. If you were enslaved that way just before DA+Prison Overhaul blackout event kicks in (assuming now you have the latest version of Prison Overhaul), you would end up enslaved and in jail at the same time.

 

The next version of SD removes that sort of enslavement on bleedout for the very same reasons.

 

 

No, only DA and SD+ is installed, no Defeat, no Submit, nothing (only Hentai Pregnancy, Aroused etc.). But this happens only if you have a very high bounty on you (1000+ Gold), because then the Guards attack you on sight.

[OH1972]

 

The chain is the safety destination. It always goes to Riften.

 

The first 5 times you go to Dreamworld, Sanguine sends you back to where you were when you ask 'let me go'.

The next 5 times, he sends you to Riften.

The next 5 times, he sends you to a random place.

 

After that, he asks you where you want to go and you have the choice between 'back to where I was' , 'to a safe place' or 'surprise me'.

 

So hang in there. Sanguine is just toying with you right now.

 

If you want to cheat and get that menu, you will have to set _SD_Sanguine_blessing manually to a value high enough:

 

set _SD_sanguine_blessing to 20

 

 

Yesterday, I was really thankful to be summoned by Sanguine and sent to Riften... I was down in Blackreach and being sent to Riften saved me quite a bit of walking back to the surface.

[ErikModi]

So, as I understand it, the SD enslavement conditions are supposed to be configurable through the Death Alternative MCM when you have both installed, but I don't see them anywhere.  Unlclicking the Bandit Quest in Death Alternative just has them kill me, clicking it has them steal my stuff and leave me in the wilderness naked.  No enslave option.  Am I missing something?

[DeepBlueFrog]

So, as I understand it, the SD enslavement conditions are supposed to be configurable through the Death Alternative MCM when you have both installed, but I don't see them anywhere.  Unlclicking the Bandit Quest in Death Alternative just has them kill me, clicking it has them steal my stuff and leave me in the wilderness naked.  No enslave option.  Am I missing something?

 

You should see events prefixed with SD in Bleedout, Blackout and Death sections of DA.

 

If you don't SD was somehow not registered properly with DA.

 

Try installing DA first, save, enable SD and then reload.

[DeepBlueFrog]

@vithiss and @traveler_phi did a great job answering earlier but I feel that I still have to answer some of these comments myself. I will just skip the explanations about how Defeat and DA work together.

 

you cannot uncheck the bleedout mode, you can only uncheck the soulgame event, which will not trigger if you dont have a filled soulem in inventory anyway.

 

have you ever played a game with da, defat and sd ?

 

Yes i have. 

Just about every day for the past months ( since I considered adding DA to SD ).

 

`how can you say that sd, da and defeat can work together work very well. ?

they dont work together at all, it is chaos.

 

It was chaos for me at first but DA + SD + Defeat have been running smoothly for me for the past few weeks at least.

 

My issues with DA initially were due to having Frostfall tag my character with DeferredKill ( I forgot to check the Frostfall Mortality option in SD's Frostfall add-on). What that does is make your character immortal, which means weird things happen when DA kicks in. 

 

If you look at your logs and see messages about 'Kill essential', you have that problem.

 

That said, who knows what sort of influence other mods can have in certain conditions. 

 

It seems you do have a problem getting these mods working together but I would bet the problem is outside of DA + SD + defeat.

 

i spend more  than a WEEK now testing it and i see what is going on at my Screen.

i kick defeat 5 not only for incompability with da, because NO RAPE HAPPENS IN DEFEATS THRESHOLD EVEN IF IT IS 1-80%, how often shall i repeat it.

PLUS the tiptaptiptaptaiptap struggle bar. now be careful not to let you watch you by doing that, they may send you in a psychic clinic. thats what that tiptaptiptap strugglebar is.

 

I just did a quick test and was enslaved 3 times in a row - same scene, same bandits, reloaded three times for testing.

 

The first two times SD kicked in first and enslaved me.

The third time, DA kicked in first and bandits took turns raping my PC.

 

I am not fond of the tiptaptiptap thing myself but I can only hope Goubo will add an option to get rid of it later on.

 

we dont come one step further. you neglet reality, you dont play your mod ingame, you havent tiptaptiptaptiptap the struggle bar, etc.

so all thats left for the gamers is to deinstall the mods.

 

I do play my mods in game. As said earlier, I do every day while I am testing new features, bug fixes or when I just want to play.

 

In the end, this is a game - it should be exciting and fun.

If it turns into something frustrating, by all means, uninstall the mod... maybe it will work better if you try it again in a few months.

 

 

[Morferous]

@skyrimll:

I admire the work you are putting in to your mods, but also the patience you have put to us and our porblems. Thank you.

I am egar to see the next version of SD+.

[ErikModi]

Okay, that got it working (more or less.)  Had some bugs with Bandits where I couldn't talk to my Owner for a bit, and when I solicited another Bandit, they started attacking me.

[Debaster]

Srsly I hink you might be the reincarnation of buddha. Lord knows i wouldn't have the patience to deal with this shit. Also, been using da sd and defeat for weeks now with no problem. Must be a bug

[Dénouement]

Maybe Skyrimll has a fetish for abuse by ungrateful mod downloaders?
 

 

 

.. Oh yeah, it's so bad, you're so bad at this. . . gonna uninstall! So bad. Naughty.

[Feldspare]

Has anyone noticed that the whipping event does an obscene amount of damage. I had to use the console command player.resethealth 7 times or I would have died. Whats up with that? I'm using Skyrim Redone if that makes a difference... is there any way to disable the damage the whipping does? There is no reason for that to do damage or kill the player.

[Dénouement]

That's probably skyre doing that, I've never had even my health bar appear to bother showing me how much damage was being done. Then again I'm always overpowered. Anyone else?

[jfraser]

I always thought the whipping was cosmetic. I've never had health lowered even at low levels.

[Feldspare]

Okay so then it must be SkyRe, because that overhaul causes base bleed damage when the PC takes any physical type hit. I can't live without it though its the only mod I've found that actually makes Skyrim challenging without making the PC so weak that it takes several minutes to kill a bandit.

 

 

[Dénouement]

That actually makes SkyRe sound really appealing. But, you may need more health. Bleed damage can't be that much, can it?

[Feldspare]

Basically it makes enemies do enough damage to kill you in just a few hits but you can still kill your enemies nearly as quickly as they can kill you... as long as you are close to their level. It requires slightly more skill. If you don't dodge, block or attack the right enemies at the right time you will die. 

 

But yea, even just 4 lashes will apply enough bleed damage to kill you. 

[Dénouement]

Well, personally I think that means it's worth it to both deal with using TIM command and to script in a patch. Throw on TIM when you're enslaved until/unless a patch for it arrives. 
 

I'll look into SkyRe more on the nexus.

[xboronx]

As i said i like the new random rape system with the submit/resist option a lot. It's starting to happen quite frequently now, so i wonder though if there are special triggers recognizing special situations like long heavy player punishment. Hasn't happened so far in my current playthrough, but i think the random rapes might be very harmful should the player be under Xaz PO treatment, Captured Dreams punishment or similiar.

 

Has anybody tried it yet? Do random rapes happen then and if they do do they tend to break the other mods punishment scenes or do they queue and work together well?

[Dénouement]

That's what coveted does, and the more times you visit the dreamworld the more likely it is to occur and the more actors it affects. At 20, you can expect random dogs and horses. It turns anyone near you into a potential rapist. You can toggle it. 

[webb71]

Any idea why the sd option in death alternative would just vanish?  I haven't changed anything so I don't know what's up with it.

[DeepBlueFrog]

As i said i like the new random rape system with the submit/resist option a lot. It's starting to happen quite frequently now, so i wonder though if there are special triggers recognizing special situations like long heavy player punishment. Hasn't happened so far in my current playthrough, but i think the random rapes might be very harmful should the player be under Xaz PO treatment, Captured Dreams punishment or similiar.

 

Has anybody tried it yet? Do random rapes happen then and if they do do they tend to break the other mods punishment scenes or do they queue and work together well?

 

They don't queue up, but they come up with a popup menu to let you decide to go on or resist / cancel to avoid weird interferences.

[xboronx]

 

As i said i like the new random rape system with the submit/resist option a lot. It's starting to happen quite frequently now, so i wonder though if there are special triggers recognizing special situations like long heavy player punishment. Hasn't happened so far in my current playthrough, but i think the random rapes might be very harmful should the player be under Xaz PO treatment, Captured Dreams punishment or similiar.

 

Has anybody tried it yet? Do random rapes happen then and if they do do they tend to break the other mods punishment scenes or do they queue and work together well?

 

They don't queue up, but they come up with a popup menu to let you decide to go on or resist / cancel to avoid weird interferences.

 

 

The resist option has given me some problems though. It always started the small animation with the player going to knees. If the popup occured while i was in a dialogue the player controls weren't enabled when using the resist option, otherwise it worked fine.

 

But you also mention cancel, so can i cancel the event completely? I only see submit/resist as options, so how do i activate the complete cancel then?

 

Sorry for the bugging, but sometimes i can be blind as a bat ....... .

 

[ErikModi]

Is the option to pay your way out of slavery broken?  I've had the dialogue option of "I have something to give you," the owner seems to take gold, and then I'm just still enslaved.  Even checking my status with "How am I doing" shows 0 gold remaining.  Am I doing something wrong?

 

Otherwise, really enjoying this, keep it up!