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Posted

First, thank you for an awesome mod!  I love the twists this adds to the game (especially the flowering spriggan quest).  I was playing around with different slavery scenarios today and I ran across a few things...

 

 

 

Flowering Spriggan

  • Flowering Spriggan enslavement doesn't seem to count as a first enslavement in terms of getting into Sanguine's Dreamworld
  • A lot of the normal spriggans seem to have been replaced with flowering spriggans.  Unfortunately these don't seem to properly start the Flowering Spriggan quest (this may have been reported already).  The MCM says that Flowering Spriggan is active, but I don't get the quest or the armor (though people around me do occasionally get the green glow)
  • Once the spriggan leaves me, but the quest is not complete, I get the same messages as when the armor was on (based on the quest, they spriggans are having their way with me), but no actions seem to trigger - are they supposed to?
  • In older versions, I remember the green glow activating on the player, now (except directly after becoming the host) it seems only surrounding NPCs get the glow.  Is this how it should be?
  • Upon becoming a host, I received a spell to summon a spriggan.  After completing the quest, this spell stayed in my spell book and became a way for me to instantly restart the quest - was this intentional?

 

Regular Enslavement

  • Sometimes, members of the same faction keep beating on me (and end up killing me) after one of them has become my master.
  • For the "invisible fence" effect, there seems to be an incompatibility with the Invested Magic mod.  Essentially, it makes it last pretty much indefinitely just like a cloak spell until I dispel it.  No big deal, just figured I would put it out there as an FYI.

 

 

 

I love the Flowering Spriggan quest, btw, and can't wait to see some of the items you have planned for it.  One thing I thought of while playing was that it would be cool to possibly have some body expansion (breasts, butt, and/or belly) take place when the sap is pumping into your body - basically making the character more voluptuous.  :D

 

Can I ask how you managed to get the flowering spriggan quest to work - I keep getting the CTD reported in the second post, but given the issues causing the CTD are a necessary part of the start of the quest I don't see how to get it to start?

Posted

 

Ok I'm having two problems one I am always immortal though I do die after awhile, but everything and I mean everything is trying to enslave me when I reach zero health.

So is a bug? I know the first SD had the immortality issues. Also is there anyway I can get the immoratlity removed maybe the old immortality fix esp?

 

Any help would be great as I don't think some saber cat is meant to try to enslave me.

 

If you mean the 'Enslavement attempt failed' messages - they only mean that your character was eligible for enslavement but it didn't happen for some reason (for a saber cat, that means the cat is not allowed to enslave you).

 

You can ignore these messages.

 

 

Ok I understand that know, but what of the immortality thing. For example with SD installed I fall off a cliff all my health drains, but Im still alive. This problem presists after uninstallation as well. So Im just wondering how I can make myself mortal again.

 

Posted

 

 

Part of the rewrite will cover how inventory and bindings are managed.

 

The idea here is that the master will leave all of your inventory in place and severely control how you are dressed and what you can do. There will be options to manage your load if necessary. The collar will allow you to carry weapons and fight for your master but it will make your master ignore your hits and will give you a shock and get your master angry at you if you attack him/her.

 

On the topic of controlling how your are dressed: It would be interesting if there were some tags/ratings that could be used to categorize clothing and armor. The difference between clothing and armor the game already understands, but not skimpyness. It is complex with all the different armor sets out there, some take up one slot for the complete set, others allow you to pick and choose between individual pieces. Perhaps if you could add a coverage value to armor, where 0 would be essentially naked/no coverage, and armor totalling up to 100 would imply no skin showing. It would have to allow some simple way for the community to add values for mod armor, as there is no way you could rate every armor in existence by yourself.

 

I haven't thought through a complete enough system to have any hope these numbers would add up to 100 fully clothed, but this should give you some idea what I have in mind:

 

Skimpy thong: 4 (1 for fabric, +3 for "vital" area)

pantyless mini-skirt: 2

Pasties: 2

skimpy bikini top: 4

halter top: 15

straps buckled around arm: 0 or 1

see through mini-dress: 0 or 1

Vanilla armor (torso, arms, partial legs): 75

Helm showing face: 10

Closed helm: 15

 

SD+ could either have the master pick favoring skimpy attire, or allow the player to pick and then be chastised if she tries putting on too much. I don't really have an idea of how much effort it will be, probably a lot, but I don't see how the game would be able to make realistic choices otherwise.

 

 

This kind of effort would require a database of every possible clothing and armor mods out there... in other words, that will not be happening anytime soon.

 

I will only add control of the kind of clothing your PC will be allowed to wear at anytime, mostly between Nothing, Cloth only, Cloth or Armor, Armor only.

 

Skimpiness or the choice of armor will be up to the player as a role play exercise.

 

The master will allow you to choose what to wear and will then remove access to your inventory. You will have to ask permission again before changing anything else.

 

Of course, your master will reserve the right to undress you for sex or punishments.

 

SL Aroused lets users tag their own clothing as "naked" through the MCM. Maybe you could copy the same approach.

Posted

 

Crash on load and infinite loading screen are two issues you will find with script heavy mods. I suspect it is something related to SKSE but it is just a gut feeling at this point.

 

The only reliable workaround I know of is this:

 

1- start a new game, preferably with 'Live another life' so you can start and not in the default cart scene.

 

2- once your start game is configured (all the popup messages from mods launching for the first time are gone) open the console and type: save basestart

 

3- From now on, EVERY time you start Skyrim, FIRST load the 'basestart' save and THEN, load your usual save game.

 

Look at is as initializing the game engine with a clean start game before running your script heavy save.

 

This works for me every time.

 

Edit: I should have read the last post first :) This is exactly what Carida described.

 

 

This should be stickied and also printed on every copy of Skyrim

 

This didn't only solve my CTD issues completely (I've been playing for around 8 hours without a CTD) it also cleared up a lot of the smaller glitches that happen (even in vanilla) like getting one shotted by the Hagraven in Serpents Bluff.

 

I don't owe you a beer I owe you a brewery :)

 

Many thanks to you and Carida for such good advice

Posted

My character did the Spriggan quest quite a while ago. Now smack in the middle of Dragon's Bridge, suddenly I get a message "Spriggan Call of the Wild" added and have this Spriggan effect again. But I don't see anything in the effects list or anything new in the quest journal. So I am a bit at a loss what that means....

Posted

I've got that message too once. Spiggan call of the wild added.

I was running in a wood. Apparently nothing happened thereafter. No effect in the list or object in the inventory

Posted

My character did the Spriggan quest quite a while ago. Now smack in the middle of Dragon's Bridge, suddenly I get a message "Spriggan Call of the Wild" added and have this Spriggan effect again. But I don't see anything in the effects list or anything new in the quest journal. So I am a bit at a loss what that means....

 

 

I've got that message too once. Spiggan call of the wild added.

I was running in a wood. Apparently nothing happened thereafter. No effect in the list or object in the inventory

 

That happened to me once... no idea why and how it happened. 

I will take a look next time I go over the spriggan quest.

Posted

just to add some clues I've still never started the spriggan quest. When the message appeared there was a spriggan in the distance. At least one. But I did engage in combat

Posted

 

I am slowly planning a complete rewrite of the mechanics between master and slave in order to allow long term master as followers.

 

Part of the rewrite will cover how inventory and bindings are managed.

 

The idea here is that the master will leave all of your inventory in place and severely control how you are dressed and what you can do. There will be options to manage your load if necessary. The collar will allow you to carry weapons and fight for your master but it will make your master ignore your hits and will give you a shock and get your master angry at you if you attack him/her.

 

There will be also a back story about those enchanted slavery collars and how they are created.

 

Again I have to say you are doing an excellent job with SD+.  And it's very exciting, for me anyway, that someone might finally create a true "player slave" mod.  Fnv almost has that with "Fort Slavery" ... close but no Havana, maybe a Grenadiers.

I know that will take some time but we (I've) waited patiently for each new update and not been disappoint.  Take your time and do it right.

 

PS.  but if you decide to put out an alpha version, I'm sure many of us will be willing to test it. 

Posted

Really nice mod ! ;-) , i hope you add soon more positions (tie up) . And add different way to enslave someone (i hate cast spells) :c

 

@Contributor , when you want to release new patch ? If you even want ? I cant wait ! ;-) 

Posted

Just a couple of quick things:

 

I have had a couple of times in the past few days when some quest/scrpt/something-beyond-my-knowledge seems to get stuck. it doesn't disable everything, I can still move around and so forth. The last time some dialog options from a variety of mods wouldn't progress to the 2nd step, and that's all I noticed. Then, all of a sudden (after a load of some sort), I got a skill up for speechcraft and a couple of other things that -should- have happened as much as 30 rl minutes earlier. maybe this has something to do with the odd appearances of spriggan stuff in the posts above, so I thought I'd mention it.

 

Also have noticed, though this is likely SL if it is even a problem: when animations start, if I open the console there are always extra animations listed, sometimes the same one that's playing, sometimes different ones. Almost as if SL is trying to pick an animation for each actor before settling on one.

 

Finally, when owner makes me dance, if I am wearing the roughspun tunic (maybe other things as well, this is the only thing I've had so far), once the "orgy" starts I begin to litter the area with roughspun tunics though I will always put one back on too.

 

As always, many thanks.

Posted

Version 1.16 is out with these updates:

 

- Fixed: Begging issues

:: Removed requirement for enslavement when begging
:: Removed begging dialog after 100 gold
:: Added minimum of 1 gold if positive response 'Of course... ' when begging
- Fixed: Minor tweaks with tags for sex animations
- Fixed: Issue with bindings being added and removed repeatedly if you refuse to join your master's faction 
- Fixed: Reduced demerits during Cage scene. The scene is still broken but it will not make you spiral out of control anymore.
 
This will be the last update for a while - most likely months.
 
I started work to improve the core of slavery in SD+.
 
From a previous post, here is what I will be working on:
 
I have to plan carefully the kind of actions and variables I will be tracking.
Then gradually gut SD+ and replace code with the new mechanics.
And while I am at it, try turning the no death/sanguine dream, rape and enslavement into scenarios for Death Alternative.

 

I will keep checking on this forum and making suggestions about issues, but I will not be able to keep making updates to the old version while working on the guts of the next version.

Posted

In the unenhanced version of SD, there was a (very hot) female version of Sanguine in the dream world. Is she still in this version, or only the original male Sanguine?

Posted

I am running into an issue. After she gets enslaved and escapes for the first time.  She goes to bed and tries to sleep.  She  will wake up like a dream state with markings overthe body.  However, she goes back to bed.  Then wakes up and is again having markings until I removed the gear.  This has happened on a brand new character.  She does not go to the dreamworld at all.  Please note that I am on 115 of SD+

Here is my mod list.

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
lakeviewextgrnhous.esp
Breezehome Loft Crafting.esp
frostfangmanor.esp
DartHairColorsAll.esp
SkyrimFixes.esp
RespawningBarrel.esp
riften jail test 2.esp
Naked Comment Hypocrisy Fix.esp
Winterhold College Door Fix.esp
Northern Bathhouses.esp
StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp
DF127DeadFollowers.esp
Spousetocustomhome.esp
MoreBrains.esp
Better Archery 1.0.esp
dragonShoutsRebalanced.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp
BLESSING - A Blessings Overhaul - Balanced.esp
Drink Eat Sleep.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
ShowersInInns.esp
jishrines&worshipers.esp
ZF Primary Needs.esp
sextoys-calyps-2.esp
Dialogue Fix for Alternate Start.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Populated Cities 2.esp
SexLabArousedAnimations.esp
Devious Devices - For the Masses II - DB.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
Sexlab Release.esp
SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp
SkyUI.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
SDpatch - dawnguard.esp
SDpatch - dragonborn.esp
SDpatch - frostfall.esp
Devious Devices - Gags+.esp
Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
APPS.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
GattiBondage1.esp
addlHq.esp
Angi.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.esp
Chidna Pinewatch.esp
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
DrunkenHuntsmen.esp
XiNafay - Shoes.esp
LoversVictim-DogsnHorses.esp
MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp
Riften BeeBarb.esp
SexCrop.esp
SexLab Brawling Rape.esp
SexLabConsequences.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
SexLabMiscellaneousFeatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
SexLab Trainers.esp
SexLab Warmbodies.esp
LoversVictim.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
SexLabWorkingGirl.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
Valtheim.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp
Random Alternate Start.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
3D_Meshed_PubicHair.esp
LeatherBackpackBlack-100.esp
multifollowerlite.esp
noautoqueststart_thievesguild_reg.esp
skyex.esp
talos island - reborn.esp
SlaveTats.esp
dd-sd1-compatibility-patch.esp
Better Follower Improvements.esp
Horses for followers.esp
TouringCarriages.esp
Transportato - Trains.esp
Transportato - Ships.esp
ExpandedNPCDialogue.esp
ExpandedCarriageService.esp
ImmersiveFP.esp
lt_better_horses.esp

 

 

Here are the pictures ifrom the game. 

 

Thank you for any info on to why this is happening.

 

 

Posted

I am running into an issue. After she gets enslaved and escapes for the first time.  She goes to bed and tries to sleep.  She  will wake up like a dream state with markings overthe body.  However, she goes back to bed.  Then wakes up and is again having markings until I removed the gear.  This has happened on a brand new character.  She does not go to the dreamworld at all.  Please note that I am on 115 of SD+

Here is my mod list.

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

lakeviewextgrnhous.esp

Breezehome Loft Crafting.esp

frostfangmanor.esp

DartHairColorsAll.esp

SkyrimFixes.esp

RespawningBarrel.esp

riften jail test 2.esp

Naked Comment Hypocrisy Fix.esp

Winterhold College Door Fix.esp

Northern Bathhouses.esp

StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp

DF127DeadFollowers.esp

Spousetocustomhome.esp

MoreBrains.esp

Better Archery 1.0.esp

dragonShoutsRebalanced.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp

BLESSING - A Blessings Overhaul - Balanced.esp

Drink Eat Sleep.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

ShowersInInns.esp

jishrines&worshipers.esp

ZF Primary Needs.esp

sextoys-calyps-2.esp

Dialogue Fix for Alternate Start.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Populated Cities 2.esp

SexLabArousedAnimations.esp

Devious Devices - For the Masses II - DB.esp

SexLab Submit.esp

Sexlab Release.esp

SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp

SkyUI.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp

SDpatch - frostfall.esp

Devious Devices - Gags+.esp

Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp

APPS.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

GattiBondage1.esp

addlHq.esp

Angi.esp

Captured Dreams.esp

CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.esp

Chidna Pinewatch.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

SexLab_DibellaCult.esp

DrunkenHuntsmen.esp

XiNafay - Shoes.esp

LoversVictim-DogsnHorses.esp

MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp

Riften BeeBarb.esp

SexCrop.esp

SexLab Brawling Rape.esp

SexLabConsequences.esp

SexLab Cumshot.esp

SexLabMiscellaneousFeatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

SexLab Trainers.esp

SexLab Warmbodies.esp

LoversVictim.esp

SexLab Romance.esp

SexLabWorkingGirl.esp

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

Valtheim.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp

Random Alternate Start.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

3D_Meshed_PubicHair.esp

LeatherBackpackBlack-100.esp

multifollowerlite.esp

noautoqueststart_thievesguild_reg.esp

skyex.esp

talos island - reborn.esp

SlaveTats.esp

dd-sd1-compatibility-patch.esp

Better Follower Improvements.esp

Horses for followers.esp

TouringCarriages.esp

Transportato - Trains.esp

Transportato - Ships.esp

ExpandedNPCDialogue.esp

ExpandedCarriageService.esp

ImmersiveFP.esp

lt_better_horses.esp

 

 

 

Here are the pictures ifrom the game. 

 

Thank you for any info on to why this is happening.

 

It looks like your trip to Sanguine's world worked halfway. You got there, got the slave gear and came right back.

 

Are you using anything that affects sleep? as in 'see yourself during sleep'.

 

I don't know many of the mods in your list, so I couldn't tell if you have any conflict.

Posted

In the unenhanced version of SD, there was a (very hot) female version of Sanguine in the dream world. Is she still in this version, or only the original male Sanguine?

 

She is still there.

 

You need to have a male PC and set your gender restrictions to 'opposite sex only'.

 

I already have an item on my list to bring her back randomly if you select 'both sex' in the gender restriction option.

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Posted

 

I am running into an issue. After she gets enslaved and escapes for the first time.  She goes to bed and tries to sleep.  She  will wake up like a dream state with markings overthe body.  However, she goes back to bed.  Then wakes up and is again having markings until I removed the gear.  This has happened on a brand new character.  She does not go to the dreamworld at all.  Please note that I am on 115 of SD+

Here is my mod list.

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

lakeviewextgrnhous.esp

Breezehome Loft Crafting.esp

frostfangmanor.esp

DartHairColorsAll.esp

SkyrimFixes.esp

RespawningBarrel.esp

riften jail test 2.esp

Naked Comment Hypocrisy Fix.esp

Winterhold College Door Fix.esp

Northern Bathhouses.esp

StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp

DF127DeadFollowers.esp

Spousetocustomhome.esp

MoreBrains.esp

Better Archery 1.0.esp

dragonShoutsRebalanced.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp

BLESSING - A Blessings Overhaul - Balanced.esp

Drink Eat Sleep.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

ShowersInInns.esp

jishrines&worshipers.esp

ZF Primary Needs.esp

sextoys-calyps-2.esp

Dialogue Fix for Alternate Start.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Populated Cities 2.esp

SexLabArousedAnimations.esp

Devious Devices - For the Masses II - DB.esp

SexLab Submit.esp

Sexlab Release.esp

SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp

SkyUI.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp

SDpatch - frostfall.esp

Devious Devices - Gags+.esp

Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp

APPS.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

GattiBondage1.esp

addlHq.esp

Angi.esp

Captured Dreams.esp

CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.esp

Chidna Pinewatch.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

SexLab_DibellaCult.esp

DrunkenHuntsmen.esp

XiNafay - Shoes.esp

LoversVictim-DogsnHorses.esp

MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp

Riften BeeBarb.esp

SexCrop.esp

SexLab Brawling Rape.esp

SexLabConsequences.esp

SexLab Cumshot.esp

SexLabMiscellaneousFeatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

SexLab Trainers.esp

SexLab Warmbodies.esp

LoversVictim.esp

SexLab Romance.esp

SexLabWorkingGirl.esp

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

Valtheim.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp

Random Alternate Start.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

3D_Meshed_PubicHair.esp

LeatherBackpackBlack-100.esp

multifollowerlite.esp

noautoqueststart_thievesguild_reg.esp

skyex.esp

talos island - reborn.esp

SlaveTats.esp

dd-sd1-compatibility-patch.esp

Better Follower Improvements.esp

Horses for followers.esp

TouringCarriages.esp

Transportato - Trains.esp

Transportato - Ships.esp

ExpandedNPCDialogue.esp

ExpandedCarriageService.esp

ImmersiveFP.esp

lt_better_horses.esp

 

 

 

Here are the pictures ifrom the game. 

 

Thank you for any info on to why this is happening.

 

It looks like your trip to Sanguine's world worked halfway. You got there, got the slave gear and came right back.

 

Are you using anything that affects sleep? as in 'see yourself during sleep'.

 

I don't know many of the mods in your list, so I couldn't tell if you have any conflict.

 

 

Thank you it looks like either the Drink eat sleep mod of the ZF Primary mod is causing this conflict.  One of these mods istaking off the cloths of the PC before sleep then after they are being put on.  So this could cause a break not sure.

 

But thanks for the heads up on which mod maybe the cuase.  Will try one at a time to see which one (Or both together) is causing this issue.

 

Posted

I upgraded to v1.16, and I went to White River Watch to test enslavement, and I'm stuck with the endless undress animation loop. Also the bandits just stand there with weapons drawn, but I have all of the SD+ dialog available.

Posted

 

 

I am running into an issue. After she gets enslaved and escapes for the first time.  She goes to bed and tries to sleep.  She  will wake up like a dream state with markings overthe body.  However, she goes back to bed.  Then wakes up and is again having markings until I removed the gear.  This has happened on a brand new character.  She does not go to the dreamworld at all.  Please note that I am on 115 of SD+

Here is my mod list.

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

lakeviewextgrnhous.esp

Breezehome Loft Crafting.esp

frostfangmanor.esp

DartHairColorsAll.esp

SkyrimFixes.esp

RespawningBarrel.esp

riften jail test 2.esp

Naked Comment Hypocrisy Fix.esp

Winterhold College Door Fix.esp

Northern Bathhouses.esp

StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp

DF127DeadFollowers.esp

Spousetocustomhome.esp

MoreBrains.esp

Better Archery 1.0.esp

dragonShoutsRebalanced.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp

BLESSING - A Blessings Overhaul - Balanced.esp

Drink Eat Sleep.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

ShowersInInns.esp

jishrines&worshipers.esp

ZF Primary Needs.esp

sextoys-calyps-2.esp

Dialogue Fix for Alternate Start.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Populated Cities 2.esp

SexLabArousedAnimations.esp

Devious Devices - For the Masses II - DB.esp

SexLab Submit.esp

Sexlab Release.esp

SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp

SkyUI.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp

SDpatch - frostfall.esp

Devious Devices - Gags+.esp

Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp

APPS.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

GattiBondage1.esp

addlHq.esp

Angi.esp

Captured Dreams.esp

CD - Calyps Sextoys addon.esp

Chidna Pinewatch.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

SexLab_DibellaCult.esp

DrunkenHuntsmen.esp

XiNafay - Shoes.esp

LoversVictim-DogsnHorses.esp

MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp

Riften BeeBarb.esp

SexCrop.esp

SexLab Brawling Rape.esp

SexLabConsequences.esp

SexLab Cumshot.esp

SexLabMiscellaneousFeatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

SexLab Trainers.esp

SexLab Warmbodies.esp

LoversVictim.esp

SexLab Romance.esp

SexLabWorkingGirl.esp

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

Valtheim.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

RAS - Riverwood CharGen.esp

Random Alternate Start.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

3D_Meshed_PubicHair.esp

LeatherBackpackBlack-100.esp

multifollowerlite.esp

noautoqueststart_thievesguild_reg.esp

skyex.esp

talos island - reborn.esp

SlaveTats.esp

dd-sd1-compatibility-patch.esp

Better Follower Improvements.esp

Horses for followers.esp

TouringCarriages.esp

Transportato - Trains.esp

Transportato - Ships.esp

ExpandedNPCDialogue.esp

ExpandedCarriageService.esp

ImmersiveFP.esp

lt_better_horses.esp

 

 

 

Here are the pictures ifrom the game. 

 

Thank you for any info on to why this is happening.

 

It looks like your trip to Sanguine's world worked halfway. You got there, got the slave gear and came right back.

 

Are you using anything that affects sleep? as in 'see yourself during sleep'.

 

I don't know many of the mods in your list, so I couldn't tell if you have any conflict.

 

 

Thank you it looks like either the Drink eat sleep mod of the ZF Primary mod is causing this conflict.  One of these mods istaking off the cloths of the PC before sleep then after they are being put on.  So this could cause a break not sure.

 

But thanks for the heads up on which mod maybe the cuase.  Will try one at a time to see which one (Or both together) is causing this issue.

 

 

Ok did my testing.  The Drink eat sleep mod worked by itself.  I was taken to the dreamworld.  I was in the bondage gear.  If I talked to Sanguine I was put back where I was at before I went to bed.  If I pulled on the chain I was taken to a different place.  The same thing happen with ZF basic needs.  However, when I entered the dreamworld I was not in any bondage gear.  It also was frozen in there.  (Luckly ZF has something that I can used to unfreeze me)  Then I was able to use both to leave the dreamworld.  However, if both mods are in use the dreamworld will not work. 

 

Thanks to all for you for the help in solving this issue.

 

 

 

 

Posted

I was going to mention an odd bug I had with 1.15 constantly doing the healing and pulling me under Sanguines thumb repeatedly while in the Dreamworld, but looks like theres an update, so might as well start a new character!

Posted

I've been getting some crashes lately, and investigations into my Papyrus log have shown (at least to me) that SD is repeatedly, and very numerously attempting to reference Frostfall, which is disabled in the menu, and is not even present in my load.

 

I'm not sure 100% if this is the cause, but this one message pops up at least once a second, but often times more. [The below message is a segment from an estimated 15 minutes of gameplay]

 

SD Error Message

 


[03/17/2014 -12:40:34AM] Error: Cannot call GetValueInt() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [_SD_patch_frostfall (25000D62)]._SDQF_patch_frostfall_01.OnUpdate() - "_SDQF_patch_frostfall_01.psc" Line 75
[03/17/2014 - 12:40:34AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp17"
stack:
    [_SD_patch_frostfall (25000D62)]._SDQF_patch_frostfall_01.OnUpdate() - "_SDQF_patch_frostfall_01.psc" Line 75
[03/17/2014 - 12:40:35AM] Error: Cannot call GetValueInt() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [_SD_patch_frostfall (25000D62)]._SDQF_patch_frostfall_01.OnUpdate() - "_SDQF_patch_frostfall_01.psc" Line 75
[03/17/2014 - 12:40:35AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp17"
stack:
    [_SD_patch_frostfall (25000D62)]._SDQF_patch_frostfall_01.OnUpdate() - "_SDQF_patch_frostfall_01.psc"

 

 

 

Would this be a problem with SD or am I mistaken in that regard? I'll attach the rest of the log if it's potentially something different though I'm leaning towards this as essentially the entire log is full of just these lines repeating.

 

Internet is being stupid. Keep getting bad gateway screens when I try to post, and for some reason, I can't upload .txt files.

 

Posted

Very small issue, it is not a fault of SD+, but bad stacking up of fatigue effects. So if possible could you make a check on how much movement is already reduced by other mods to avoid -100%? Here's what happened to me:

 

I wandered around in the wilderness, got two diseases and before i could make it to a town got enslaved. The RND mod leaves you at a very tired or even exhausted stage if you try to sleep while ill. This is quite immersive, because i can't run away from the master and move at the speed of a slug. At exhausted it seems to go over -100% together with the SD+ speed mali, and i can't move anymore then.

 

Fortunately currently the master is staying at his home, some tower, and i can sleep there occasionally, has been 3 interesting days so far. I wonder if the diseases will go away eventually or get worse. But if this stacking up would happen while the master is traveling around it would force me to end the slavery with the safeword function. This would be really bad, because RND and SD+ can create a very immersive synergy. It's been a while i felt so helpless in such a believeable realistic way :)

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