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Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

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Xuji

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skyrimll, it'd be cool if when begging and getting raped for it, they gave you the money afterwards (seeing it as payment) or even better if they throw it on the ground for you to pick up when they're done with you.
That could also possibly be something that happens if you spam the begging dialogue, "here's your damn money" :blush:

Vithiss

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Thanks for the response.

The reason that I thought it (Player is not the target) might be a bug was that I'd never seen anything happen to anyone else after I got the notification. But, that, it seems, was just a fluke.

I like the idea of seeing Sanguine at work around you,  as you put it. It spreads the daedric influence around more on the one hand and points out that the pc (dragonborn or not) isn't so very exceptional in daedric eyes, both of which, imo, inhance immersion.

 

Thanks again.

DeepBlueFrog

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skyrimll, it'd be cool if when begging and getting raped for it, they gave you the money afterwards (seeing it as payment) or even better if they throw it on the ground for you to pick up when they're done with you.

That could also possibly be something that happens if you spam the begging dialogue, "here's your damn money" :blush:

 

Both rape and payment are decided randomly.

 

Some will rape you and give you your damn money.. some will not :)

mowglibear

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I am having issues updating to the newest version, It just says "updating to 1.12" and not 1.15, and idea what I can do I have tried re-installing the mod but nothing :L.

DeepBlueFrog

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Probably not at this time, but I am seriously thinking about turning the death part of SD+ into an add-on for Death Alternative, especially now that I have an example to follow in Prison Overhaul.

 

This would be well worth the requirement for a new mod.

DeepBlueFrog

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I am having issues updating to the newest version, It just says "updating to 1.12" and not 1.15, and idea what I can do I have tried re-installing the mod but nothing :L.

 

That's because I forgot to update the version number in the code... my fault entirely.

Ragnaroy

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I am having issues updating to the newest version, It just says "updating to 1.12" and not 1.15, and idea what I can do I have tried re-installing the mod but nothing :L.

 

That's because I forgot to update the version number in the code... my fault entirely.

 

 

Alright this time i reeeeeeally narrowed it down, i also removed all the Estrus related mods http://pastebin.com/aFbDrL53 . Do you know if the mod is compatible with SkyRe (I guess it is but it might not)

DeepBlueFrog

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I am having issues updating to the newest version, It just says "updating to 1.12" and not 1.15, and idea what I can do I have tried re-installing the mod but nothing :L.

 

That's because I forgot to update the version number in the code... my fault entirely.

 

 

Alright this time i reeeeeeally narrowed it down, i also removed all the Estrus related mods http://pastebin.com/aFbDrL53 . Do you know if the mod is compatible with SkyRe (I guess it is but it might not)

 

 

Not sure.

 

I am currently using Requiem as an overhaul. I have not tried SkyRe yet.

Morgoth Bauglir

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I have similar problems with this mod that I had with SD 1. The enslavement process (removal of items and bounding ) takes forever. Sometimes removal of items never happens(non-quest items) . The torture or rape scenes are never initiated and when transported to sanguines realm I am stack there. Is my load order correct? I also run BOSS but that didn't fix the problem either. Please help :-/

shinji72

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Skyrimll. Actually also the enslavement part could be an on of Death Alternative. If you're "killed" by the right faction and gender... you faint instead and wake up enslaved. 

JahReit

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Ok so I am downloading the newest one now but just in case this does not fix it and to prevent it I will ask. the bandits would not enslave me, I have both defeat and submit. I set submit so that I have to press the button to submit, and defeat to 0 health and stamina to 50. It worked once then never again and when I tried to uninstall i go to sanguine realm( but i was able to leave and finish uninstalling.) also...If I use NMM to put in on the game do I still have to look for the SD files before I update?

 

Do you have 'Sanguine is watching' in your quest journal?

 

Try setting Defeat to using Health and not Stamina.

Set SD trigger to a minimum of 5% Health.

Set Defeat to a higher value.. maybe 30% and set the minimum Health value in Defeat to 10%.

This should help prevent overlap between the two.

 

I don't understand the last part about NMM but that is probably because i am not using NMM to manage SD.

 

Just install.  I never look nor uninstall ... just install.  No problems so far doing this.  Files over-write.  Make sure you don't have any _sd scripts in the script folder.

@skyrimll  how is the bunkhouse safe?  My PC has a 5000 bounty in Riften, and Windhelm which she has to go through to get back to Whiterun where she is safe for now, thanks to LADL, which you use also as I recall.

JUSSME

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Skyrimll. Actually also the enslavement part could be an on of Death Alternative. If you're "killed" by the right faction and gender... you faint instead and wake up enslaved. 

 

 

 

 

Probably not at this time, but I am seriously thinking about turning the death part of SD+ into an add-on for Death Alternative, especially now that I have an example to follow in Prison Overhaul.

 

This would be well worth the requirement for a new mod.

 

 

I tried the 2 mods and your right they dont work together. If I get enslaved it says rape and enslavement failed and i just get back up. I even tried set the health trigger higher than death alternative and unticked sexlab defeat to be sure. It didnt work. Will have to wait than. In the meanwhile Ima try to test out SD. but Death is really good, thanks for considering the mod

About the fractions thing, that was done in the original and I honestly dont think its a good idea. 1 because I think its more immersive that anyone can be a slaver. and the imperials were pro slavery in morrow wind anyways and it was legal. They had a separate fraction that was the abolotionists for that who were actually outlaws I believe. I didnt play much though. I played only alittle from skywind.  And with the storm-cloaks being racists im pretty sure they will enslave anyone except maybe a nord. But they kill nords who arent with them anyways. Plus when you do this by fraction it becomes problematic when you want npc from mods to be able to execute this function. Particularly npc from custom fractions not in the vanilla game. Thats why I think its like this now anyways.

anomalic

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hey guys, having a Problem with the enslavement Encounter:

when the whipping should start, my PC is beamed to the sky and falling to the ground.

then loading Screen and stucked fucking Animation.

 

whats wrong over here ?

 

is it every time? I occasionally get glitches with the beatings, reload a save and it works for me.  maybe try getting beat in a new location to see if that changes things? 

 

 

I get the same issue with sexlab animations sometimes. 

I don't know any way to fix it other than surviving the fall or reloading before that happened.

 

 

Yes it's always.

 

maybe another hint: when the whipping should start, the owner has no whip !

He draws and sheathes his sword repeatedly.

 

I already tried re-installation of all SexLab Mods...

 

 

help. anybody ? :( :( :(

JUSSME

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hey guys, having a Problem with the enslavement Encounter:

when the whipping should start, my PC is beamed to the sky and falling to the ground.

then loading Screen and stucked fucking Animation.

 

whats wrong over here ?

 

is it every time? I occasionally get glitches with the beatings, reload a save and it works for me.  maybe try getting beat in a new location to see if that changes things? 

 

 

I get the same issue with sexlab animations sometimes. 

I don't know any way to fix it other than surviving the fall or reloading before that happened.

 

 

Yes it's always.

 

maybe another hint: when the whipping should start, the owner has no whip !

He draws and sheathes his sword repeatedly.

 

I already tried re-installation of all SexLab Mods...

 

 

help. anybody ? :( :( :(

 

check again. Maybe you have left over sexlab files thats causing it to go that way. Im talking about the framework. Make sure its updated and make sure your using SKSE the 1.7 alpha /beta version. It runs alot smoother and my load times were faster than the "stable build" actually my game was more stable than the stable build. Didnt realize that they had a 1.7 version for a while out. until I started playing skyrim again and had random CTD sometimes after I updated my mods. Also make sure you have ZAZ resources to be sure. It was an old requirement. Not sure if its still one but I keep the files anyways. make sure its the latest version. Look them up. If you did any manual installations for sexlab mods or the framework your probably screwed and will have to unistall everything and reinstall everything properly with a mod manager.

anomalic

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-Framework updated

-ZAZ resources - check

 

Manual Installation - negative

 

only thing i could try is SKSE 1.7 so far. i will.

 

proper reinstall sounds like work for an afternoon^^

OH1972

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Hi, I need some help updating. I installed 113 with Nexus Mod Manager, but am in the meantime using Mod Organizer to allow for different profiles. Will it work if I simply do the virtual install of the new version with MO and deactivate the old one?

DeepBlueFrog

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Skyrimll. Actually also the enslavement part could be an on of Death Alternative. If you're "killed" by the right faction and gender... you faint instead and wake up enslaved. 

 

Yes... that are the rape scenes from non slavers and other animals.

 

That's why I am considering using DA. It seems like a good mechanism to manage these scenarios on top of the other scenarios provided by the mod and other compatible mods like Prison Overhaul. It would increase the diversity of outcomes after a fight.

 

Now if I do this, I would have to take SD+ into 'dry docks' for as long as it takes until it works because that would break a lot of things. I also have to do that to implement the new Master mood and needs system and a location based slavery. 

 

This is something I will do once I am confident we have a stable version (we are close to that now).

DeepBlueFrog

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Hi, I need some help updating. I installed 113 with Nexus Mod Manager, but am in the meantime using Mod Organizer to allow for different profiles. Will it work if I simply do the virtual install of the new version with MO and deactivate the old one?

 

No idea... I don't use MO either. Maybe someone else will comment on that one.

DeepBlueFrog

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I have similar problems with this mod that I had with SD 1. The enslavement process (removal of items and bounding ) takes forever. Sometimes removal of items never happens(non-quest items) . The torture or rape scenes are never initiated and when transported to sanguines realm I am stack there. Is my load order correct? I also run BOSS but that didn't fix the problem either. Please help :-/

 

Everything you describe sounds like an overtaxed scripting engine to me.

 

There are ways to configure Papyrus (the scripting engine) to adjust to your machine but I would simply recommend taking a hard look at your list of mods and getting rid of some script heavy, complex mods.

 

Also, I didn't have time to look into your list in detail but you probably can get rid of DangerouslyNude (since Coveted in SD+ is a much more extensive option) and also drop ZazRestraints - it is an older version of the Zaz Animation Pack (which you already have).

DeepBlueFrog

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@JahReit - I just replaced the location of the teleport to Haelga's Bunkhouse for now to test it.

 

I am considering having a short list of 'safe' locations - the bunkhouse, the meadery and the work's house next to Mixwater Mill (I like that one too).

Sanguine will eventually send you to one of these at random.

pearson

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Still getting the issue with some races not having all animations in this new update.

 

What do you mean exactly by 'not getting animations'?

 

Are the NPCs standing still? or just ignoring certain sexlab animations?

 

Is your character playing half of an animation and the NPC standing there? or is your character also ignoring the animations with the NPC?

 

Are you wearing Devious Devices?

 

 

It's like I said in my previous posts. Certain races (so far just Nords) are ignoring most sexlab animations. I don't have Devious Devices installed. Really nothing but SL, Defeat, and SD+

 

They have the full range of animations when played through Defeat (I usually keep the Player part disabled and just use NPC/NPC), but not through SD+

 

It was working fine a couple updates ago.

 

The weird thing is that changing the gender restriction setting BEFORE starting SD+ has an effect. If I set it to "No" before starting then it's Nords that don't work, if I set it to "Opposite Only" then it's Orcs. Very weird.

 

 

Still ... I would like to know what you mean by 'ignore animations', especially what the NPCs are doing while they are ignoring them.

 

 

I mean they have a restricted range of animations. It's not that they just stand there or only one person does the animation. It's like they're ignoring what I have selected as "Aggressive Animations" in the SexLab MCM and only playing 1 or 2 sets (depends on the race).

 

 

Ok.. in that case, you can stop worrying... this is normal behavior for SD+ :)

 

The sex scenes managed by SD+ have some built in logic to adapt to the situation.

 

This is to enforce gender restrictions from the menu and to prevent some animation from playing when it doesn't make sense. For example, there should be no oral sex if you character is using a gag.

 

The reason I asked about Devious Devices is that, if you are wearing a Chastity Belt, you will in effect remove both anal and vaginal animations from your range of choices.

 

I am still tweaking that system, and it is possible it will result in impossible choices for SexLab.

 

Take a look at your logs. There should be messages about SexLab searching for available animations based on tags.

This will tell you what the system is looking for and if it found any animation matching the tags.

 

 

I figured that was likely the case, but there seems to be an error in the system. This ONLY effects one or two races, and it changes depending on what I have gender preference set to. Also, the restrictions don't make sense, I have no gags or anything on (except the usual arm/leg chains) and yet Nords currently only play one animation (I think rough behind, can't remember but it's either that one or the very similar kneeling one) from the ones I have selected as "Aggressive" (all the default aggressive animations + a few extra and - fisting). I'll check my logs and maybe I can find the tag that's limiting it so much.

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