LazyBoot Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Schalli1980 said: I would like to post my load order here (for possible Mod conflicts) but i forgot how i can hide it so that my post won't become 5 feet long. Don't post the content, just attach the file itself.
Veladarius Posted April 13, 2018 Author Posted April 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Schalli1980 said: I believe i have a little problem with this mod. When i speak with the master she said 'welcome to.... look around...' and when i have a question i just need to ask. and thats it, after this the conversation ends and i can't say anything! Is this meant to be this way? My character is level 9 and female, do i have to get a higher level or anything else to do before i can speak to her? i have version 4.05 installed in german. That dialogue has a script that sets the player's attributes and some other things, likely you have some issues with your game overall. 12 hours ago, Schalli1980 said: Ok something is wrong with my mod. I'll tryed the alternate start as slave with the captured dreams shop master and ended up in a quick test cell with disabled player controlls and just standing there and nothing happend. the riekling doesn't approach me at all. That part is the transition from Alternate Start to CD and CD should handle the move and equipping of items. Again, you likely have an issue with your game as this has been around since v3. 12 hours ago, Schalli1980 said: i can't even update to version 4.15. when i install that version all my game is doing CTD. And i have all the requirements for the latest version of CD Shop installed. In the MCM Menu i can't change the npc's behavior against me. I have also the CD UNP Nipple piercing fix installed. If you updated from v4.05 to v4.15 you will need to start a new game but there are no new requirements. You have to make sure you have installed parts 1 and 2 at a minimum, the rest are optional and only need installed if wanted / needed. 10 hours ago, CovertDemon said: For some reason, the Locking Corset Collar seems to clip with the open mouth. I mean, when I have my character equip it, the lower lip seems to be visible. Are you using v4 of DD? Prior versions used ZAZ Animation Pack to control the mouth position and that item has ZAP keywords to keep the mouth closed. If you are using v4 it is likely overriding the keywords and applying the open mouth command seeing as they abandoned ZAP entirely. No idea if they have function equivalents to all the ZAP keywords in v4 of DD or not (if not then several of the hoods I have will clip with no way to fix it).
Schalli1980 Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 55 minutes ago, LazyBoot said: Don't post the content, just attach the file itself. Thanks for the tip.
Veladarius Posted April 13, 2018 Author Posted April 13, 2018 9 hours ago, bicobus said: CTD on game launch is a missing master. CTD on load might be other things. Don't try to update to a version though, rather start a new game. It seems to me that your install process is all janked. Since you currently have the german version, I'm not really confident that I can help you. Using the regular english version is working just fine for me. I'm not even sure the latest version has been translated. v4.6 will be translated once I get around to finishing it and handing it off to CGi. I am getting treated for my arthritis in my back again in the next few weeks, last one lasted about 2 1/2 years. For those that are wondering I have arthritis in the facet joints in my spine, they are a pair of small joints where the vertebrae slide against each other and what stabilizes and governs movement of the spine. There is a small nerve that runs to each of these and when the joint becomes inflamed it causes pain, a lot of pain. The procedure is called Radio Frequency Ablation and it is a variation of en epidural injection (done using the same equipment) but instead a hollow needle is placed into the joint (using x-ray to guide it), run a wire down the center of the needle and blast it with high frequency radio waves which burns it so no signal can be sent. I am getting it done in 6 joints (around the L3, L4 and L5) and the procedure hurts like hell for a few days and pain killers don't do much for it (at least for me since they don't really do much of anything anyway). I was surprised at how quickly the pain returned once it started again, it is constant and happens whether sitting, standing or laying down. 1
Veladarius Posted April 13, 2018 Author Posted April 13, 2018 4 hours ago, shadowwolf2k7 said: a quick question, what did you set your characters mouth height to? i have tried that same item and found that if you set it between 0 and -.5 it may fix the issue. it also helped when regular gags wouldnt fit the mouth right. The issue look more like the mouth is too far forward than anything else.
LazyBoot Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Veladarius said: 11 hours ago, CovertDemon said: For some reason, the Locking Corset Collar seems to clip with the open mouth. I mean, when I have my character equip it, the lower lip seems to be visible. Are you using v4 of DD? Prior versions used ZAZ Animation Pack to control the mouth position and that item has ZAP keywords to keep the mouth closed. If you are using v4 it is likely overriding the keywords and applying the open mouth command seeing as they abandoned ZAP entirely. No idea if they have function equivalents to all the ZAP keywords in v4 of DD or not (if not then several of the hoods I have will clip with no way to fix it). There's a new "zad_GagNoOpenMouth" keyword.
Veladarius Posted April 13, 2018 Author Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Schalli1980 said: Now i know that my little problem turns out to be a big one. This mod don't work right on my Game. My problems are: I can't change the tendencies in MCM. I can't speak with the Master! (all she said is welcome...i'm the Master of this fine....) and thats all. after this the conversation stops automatically. Alternate start as slave don't work. (All my character doing is standing in a quick test cell with disabled player controlls.) That little monster doesn't do anything to me. The enslave player option in MCM don't do anything. I can walk in the buildings and speak to a slave in the manor. (the adventurer, forgot her name) I have no ctd's but i can't play the mod. I would like to post my load order here (for possible Mod conflicts) but i forgot how i can hide it so that my post won't become 5 feet long. I'm using version 4.05 in german 'cause version 4.15 crash's my game. Here is my load order! LoadOrder_Skyrim_2018-04-13T13-28-28.txt Post a papyrus log (the file itself) of a session that is at least 5-10 minutes while you try some of the things (starting enslavement should be last if you do that). If the file is over 1mb you have issues but I can probably point out what is causing them.
Psalam Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Veladarius said: v4.6 will be translated once I get around to finishing it and handing it off to CGi. I am getting treated for my arthritis in my back again in the next few weeks, last one lasted about 2 1/2 years. For those that are wondering I have arthritis in the facet joints in my spine, they are a pair of small joints where the vertebrae slide against each other and what stabilizes and governs movement of the spine. There is a small nerve that runs to each of these and when the joint becomes inflamed it causes pain, a lot of pain. The procedure is called Radio Frequency Ablation and it is a variation of en epidural injection (done using the same equipment) but instead a hollow needle is placed into the joint (using x-ray to guide it), run a wire down the center of the needle and blast it with high frequency radio waves which burns it so no signal can be sent. I am getting it done in 6 joints (around the L3, L4 and L5) and the procedure hurts like hell for a few days and pain killers don't do much for it (at least for me since they don't really do much of anything anyway). I was surprised at how quickly the pain returned once it started again, it is constant and happens whether sitting, standing or laying down. Sorry to hear it. Facet arthropathy stinks. Hopefully therapy will be more effective and work more quickly for you this time.
valcon767 Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 sorry to hear that. take care of yourself Vel. best wishes
Veladarius Posted April 13, 2018 Author Posted April 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Psalam said: Sorry to hear it. Facet arthropathy stinks. Hopefully therapy will be more effective and work more quickly for you this time. Well, it worked well the first time as I only had pain if I overdid things. I am lucky in that we have a lot of good doctors here, probably the only thing that is slowing things down is getting pre approval from insurance but we have already hit our deductible for the year so that is good news (or not depending on how you want to look at it).
Psalam Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Veladarius said: Well, it worked well the first time as I only had pain if I overdid things. I am lucky in that we have a lot of good doctors here, probably the only thing that is slowing things down is getting pre approval from insurance but we have already hit our deductible for the year so that is good news (or not depending on how you want to look at it). You're right about the insurance and the deductible. Thanks to the ACA (Affordable Care Act, i.e., Obamacare) there is also a cap on the total amount you have to pay out of pocket in a year. Do bear in mind that gives the insurance reason to drag their feet. (If they can shift it into next year they can increase the amount that you pay as opposed to the amount they pay). So, stay on their case.
death8981 Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 I can't seem to change the tendencies in mcm Manu. Can any one please help ?
Psalam Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, death8981 said: I can't seem to change the tendencies in mcm Manu. Can any one please help ? Unless this has changed they can only be altered at the very beginning of the game when you first activate Captured Dreams. Once started, they remain static.
death8981 Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Psalam said: Unless this has changed they can only be altered at the very beginning of the game when you first activate Captured Dreams. Once started, they remain static. Thank you, I didn't knew that..
Psalam Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, death8981 said: Thank you, I didn't knew that.. You're welcome. Pass it on.
shadowwolf2k7 Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 @Veladarius got a suggestion for you, take it easy and rest. i know others, as i do would love to see a new update. but you need to take care of yourself first. we can wait for an update, you however need to get to feeling better. 2
Leonineus Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 Yeah, take care of yourself. Suggestion for the next update (unless it's been done): Perhaps something for those of us who want to play dominant characters? It seems like CD railroads us into a submissive play, either because of being forced into various equipment, treated as a slave by the Master, etc, but about the only "dom-nod" as such I saw was the Falkreath quest. I get that the Master is a sort of Queen Dom, but it'd be kinda nice for the mod to recognise those characters who would rather be the one holding the crop.
Zoey McKenzie Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 @Veladarius Thank you for all you hard work on this! Really appreciate it. I think I spend most of my Skyrim time in the Captured Dreams shop. That's always my one stop shop. Anyway, take care yourself first! And get well soon. ^^
Veladarius Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Leonineus said: Yeah, take care of yourself. Suggestion for the next update (unless it's been done): Perhaps something for those of us who want to play dominant characters? It seems like CD railroads us into a submissive play, either because of being forced into various equipment, treated as a slave by the Master, etc, but about the only "dom-nod" as such I saw was the Falkreath quest. I get that the Master is a sort of Queen Dom, but it'd be kinda nice for the mod to recognise those characters who would rather be the one holding the crop. I am planning on having more Dom content but Dom and Sub content are set up completely different, this is a basic example of how they are set up: Sub content: - NPC gives order to Player (go here or get this) - Player does ordered task - NPC does whatever they were going to do (put them in furniture / bind them / whip them etc.) Generally something is chosen at random for the npc to do based on what the player's current status is. Dom content: - Player gives order to NPC (go here or get this) - NPC does ordered task - NPC waits for player to give next order (task that puts npc into something specific such as devices or bindings) - NPC waits for player to do something to them, if anything (whip them or leave them there for a while) - NPC waits for next command and so on until the session ends. Generally the npc has to react to whatever the player decides to do (out of whatever options there are). In CA02 if you bind the npc then go get the whip and speak to the npc they will give a response about the whip. The more there is for the player to do the more complex the npc's controlling AI system has to be to be able to recognize what is going on. The third option is linear content such as the quest with Elisif. While you get to do a number of things there is little variation on what happens. These are easy to set up since the player has little choice in what to do next. Generally I prefer to have the 'free range' system so you can do what you want while scenes such as that with Elisif are usually more of a one shot deal since it has no real variations. 2
shadowwolf2k7 Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Leonineus said: Yeah, take care of yourself. Suggestion for the next update (unless it's been done): Perhaps something for those of us who want to play dominant characters? It seems like CD railroads us into a submissive play, either because of being forced into various equipment, treated as a slave by the Master, etc, but about the only "dom-nod" as such I saw was the Falkreath quest. I get that the Master is a sort of Queen Dom, but it'd be kinda nice for the mod to recognise those characters who would rather be the one holding the crop. vel has said in the past that it will be something he wants to add. as for what will be in 4.16 i do know that manor slave tasks are being updated. along with a few more quests, some of which will be able to be completed by non property slaves. one that was mentioned is to sell items to people in cities. and another dealing with (if i remember right) delivering an item while in heavy bondage. as for the rest of the update plans, if you do a search on 4.16 in this thread you might be able to find more about what ideas he has. on a side note i do occasionally do play throughs that are similar to the master and arishas relationship. that being where my PC is dominate to all but one follower who they are submissive towards. when i do that type of play through i usually pick a follower in the beginning to be the one who will be dominate and then all others are submissive. to me there is only 2 followers that i feel wouldnt ever be submissive to anyone so if i choose that type of play through it requires doing 1 of 2 quest lines. that being the companions line or Dawnguard.
Schalli1980 Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 On 13.4.2018 at 1:36 PM, Veladarius said: Post a papyrus log (the file itself) of a session that is at least 5-10 minutes while you try some of the things (starting enslavement should be last if you do that). If the file is over 1mb you have issues but I can probably point out what is causing them. After other little issues i set all the papyrus logs in my list to off. one of the papyrus logs was over 150 MB tall. now they are just 5 - 8 mb. I turned them off because i don't understand whats written there. and as you can see in my load order i have some very script intense mod's running. You said you could probably point out whats causing them. Could you share youre guess with me? To create a new log i have to turn this function back on and whats better for the file? To start a new game and choose the alternate start option or to load my saved game and play with MCM options?
Veladarius Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Schalli1980 said: After other little issues i set all the papyrus logs in my list to off. one of the papyrus logs was over 150 MB tall. now they are just 5 - 8 mb. I turned them off because i don't understand whats written there. and as you can see in my load order i have some very script intense mod's running. You said you could probably point out whats causing them. Could you share youre guess with me? To create a new log i have to turn this function back on and whats better for the file? To start a new game and choose the alternate start option or to load my saved game and play with MCM options? I need to see the logs, I am not going to guess just from the load order. The fact that your logs are over 1mb means there is something going on, likely a repeating error or some mods being overactive but likely both. For the log just load your current game and play it for about 10 minutes then quit. The reason I want one of your current game is that it will show things that are likely to happen again but the log from a new game may not show it yet.
Schalli1980 Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Veladarius said: I need to see the logs, I am not going to guess just from the load order. The fact that your logs are over 1mb means there is something going on, likely a repeating error or some mods being overactive but likely both. For the log just load your current game and play it for about 10 minutes then quit. The reason I want one of your current game is that it will show things that are likely to happen again but the log from a new game may not show it yet. Ok i'll try to do this. Well i allready have a 37 MB tall logfile. Try that first. i have played the game but without turning all the mod logging back on. hope it still helps to find the troublemaker. oh and many thanks for trying to help me. Papyrus.0.log
Veladarius Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Schalli1980 said: Ok i'll try to do this. Well i allready have a 37 MB tall logfile. Try that first. i have played the game but without turning all the mod logging back on. hope it still helps to find the troublemaker. oh and many thanks for trying to help me. Papyrus.0.log 1- Being Female is throwing errors constantly and eventually starts a cascade of Dump Stack Errors comprising 2/3 of the log. I had nothing but constant errors from it myself and dumped it and went back to Hentai Pregnancy. 2- _SD_patch_frostfall (pos 9B in your load order) - likely a patch for frostfall for Sanguines Debauchery - Constantly throwing errors Start with these two as errors from these two items is 95% of your log.
shadowwolf2k7 Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 @Veladarius when i was trying to sleep, i got some ideas that may help with future dominate/sub content involving any follower type. for the sub content all tasks would be on a daily basis. the follower would order the player to do these. and would require a way to disable quick travel for some of tasks below: visit named city or town (cant quick travel) explore named random dungeon and collect a piece of armor or a weapon collect x number of pelts for crafting collect x number of herbs for crafting mine x number of iron ore for crafting visit named in it random city and stay the night (cant quick travel) collect x firewood while in a city or town dominate content would be similar to the sub content but the follower would ask if the PC and the follower could do some task to make the player happy: visit named city or town (cant quick travel) explore named random dungeon and collect a piece of armor or a weapon collect x number of pelts for crafting collect x number of herbs for crafting mine x number of iron ore for crafting visit named in it random city and stay the night (cant quick travel) collect x firewood while in a city or town* as for some of the tasks above, the follower can be told to harvest some herbs (not reliably like in FO4). with the exception of firewood the player would have to collect the items for the follower. *some times while just standing near the trigger the follower will do this on their own and can be told to use the trigger reliably. i know it will be a while before you work on this type of content, but i thought i would leave my suggestion anyway.
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