Min Posted May 25, 2014 Author Posted May 25, 2014 Should be safe to update within the same save-game: Just copy/paste the new files over the existing. Don't update if you're in the middle of the forbidden tome quest. Both the expansion and Integration have updated: don't forget to get both! New Version is up: 2.8.0 Mod initialization is now delayed until after a save/load cycle, to help alleviate mod initialization failure for some users Desyncs can now be fixed without the use of the console, by just re-equipping the device. Fixed blindfold third person controls issue post-sex. New System: Devices Underneath. This fully mcm-configurable system will hide worn items (Without unequipping them) on a slot-by-slot basis. Comes default configured to hide chastity-bra's when something is equipped on the body slot. Use the MCM menu to configure it to hide whatever you like, whenever you like: Undies, various armor pieces, jewelry, piercings, etc. Added creature support to the animation filter, now that proper tags are in place. Fixed a number of bugs with actor array resizing in the animation filter. Added Mod Events to device equips. Device effects / idles / events on NPC's are now fully armed and operational. New SKSE plugin: DeviousDevices.dll. I've begun moving some functions to the new SKSE plugin, in order to improve performance / accomplish things that would be impossible through straight-papyrus. So far, the logic for ReEquipExistingDevices has been moved. Users with massive numbers of items will see significant (90%) performance increases when interacting with / equipping devices. Added Periodic plug arousal-timerate increase. This is mostly to offset the Aroused formula change. Still tweaking this number. Added a number of new functions (Thanks Lordescobar666) to zadLibs, to facilitate the manipulation of devices by loose paramaters. The expansion now features a new class of items, using new textures: Ebonite. The Expansion now fully supports UNPB bodies, as well as CBBE. Special thanks to Coopervane, Aelie, Zadil, Srende, and Ms.Leeches for their collaboration towards the development of the Devious Expansion. New Bain/fomod installer for the expansion. New script for the expansion, to help modders easily manipulate the new devices (Thanks Srende). Fixed a bug associated with linked-events. Many other smaller changes...
Laura Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Thanks for the update, testing with it now. EDIT: installed the mod, loaded an old save. It works like a charm.
zax Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 New System: Devices Underneath. This fully mcm-configurable system will hide worn items (Without unequipping them) on a slot-by-slot basis. Comes default configured to hide chastity-bra's when something is equipped on the body slot. Use the MCM menu to configure it to hide whatever you like, whenever you like: Undies, various armor pieces, jewelry, piercings, etc. Havent checked scripts, but will it work with two actors that have devices equipped, with one wearing chest armor and the other being naked?
Min Posted May 25, 2014 Author Posted May 25, 2014 New System: Devices Underneath. This fully mcm-configurable system will hide worn items (Without unequipping them) on a slot-by-slot basis. Comes default configured to hide chastity-bra's when something is equipped on the body slot. Use the MCM menu to configure it to hide whatever you like, whenever you like: Undies, various armor pieces, jewelry, piercings, etc. Havent checked scripts, but will it work with two actors that have devices equipped, with one wearing chest armor and the other being naked? It's player-only, for the time being.
circ Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Ok found a possible bug with Expansion probably. Deleted the old Integration by hand, just in case, slapped on the new one. Installed Expansion etc etc. Added UNPB meshes. Everything works fine on a save, except the light's really bright, so I turn the camera and it disappears. Probably not related to this but I don't know, it does have the blindfold effect. Check the new menu, the new tab has one item Bra something/something - that's really long and cuts into the rest of the text making it hard to read. Anyway serious bug. Console up the expansion items to see what's there. Boots work fine, although main description should mention they use HDT I guess? Forget if there was a second item but if there was it must have worked fine. Get to the harness, put it on, CTD. Okie dok. Reload, remove a collar I'm wearing - Integration wouldn't let you put pieces on that occupied the same slots, so I figure ok, maybe it's just wigging out on that. But nope, CTD again. Third try, remove everything on me including weapon - CTD. Reinstall Expansion and try again. CTD. EDIT: a few things need editing. Um yeah, the light itself doesn't have a blindfold effect, just that the blindfold adds a filter and well this looks nothing like it but well, bright light. Loaded another save, no light so it's just some temporary ENB thing, well it is temporary anyway. Aaand almost forgot the second important part. The description on the harness says something about accentuating breasts, or somesuch? I do have a recent XPMS skeleton, and TBBP meshes, so if it was going to possibly mess with the breast bones, it should be able to handle that? But maybe something got left out in the move from CBBE. I dunno.
AshenWolf Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 meh. my problem got ignored. how rude. Oh look, an overly entitled user that failed to read the posts directly around his is making sarcastic posts. How dross. tl;dr: This was a known issue for ages: Skyrim's Enchantments are terribly implemented. The NPC's system was rewritten to no longer rely on them. An update that fixes this is planned to be released within a few hours. oh look, you're still alive after answering my post, wow~! let me bake you a cookie~ not. if this already been answered, then just point to which page instead of ignoring or making rude answer. btw, you could put this known issue on first post so an overly entitled user would know what is the problem.
circ Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 I'll just start a new reply since the harness would seem to be a bigger issue. I tested the other two harnesses, same thing. xx002dc9 slave harnessxx004e23 custom slave harnessxx00bf3b locking slave harness I tried the custom blindfold after getting a CTD with custom harness. Worked like it should - stripped my headgear and applied blindfold effect. When trying on custom harness and locking slave harness, you get a message box, clicking that you get it repeated and then it crashes. I don't think the regular slave harness even got to message box part.
Min Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 Ok found a possible bug with Expansion probably. Deleted the old Integration by hand, just in case, slapped on the new one. Installed Expansion etc etc. Added UNPB meshes. Everything works fine on a save, except the light's really bright, so I turn the camera and it disappears. Probably not related to this but I don't know, it does have the blindfold effect. Screenshot? I'll just start a new reply since the harness would seem to be a bigger issue. I tested the other two harnesses, same thing. xx002dc9 slave harness xx004e23 custom slave harness xx00bf3b locking slave harness I tried the custom blindfold after getting a CTD with custom harness. Worked like it should - stripped my headgear and applied blindfold effect. When trying on custom harness and locking slave harness, you get a message box, clicking that you get it repeated and then it crashes. I don't think the regular slave harness even got to message box part. Just tested all three items locally, with no problem.
ITNW1993 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Device effects / idles / events on NPC's are now fully armed and operational. Oh sweet baby Jesus YES. I have been waiting for this to be implemented for the longest time. You, my dear, are amazing, and whoever acts like a self-entitled ass towards you does not understand how difficult it is to create an amazing mod like this.
Slammer64 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Min, since the Devices Underneath is player only, I've noticed that since I play a male character with custom armor, the hiding slot 52 doesn't seem to work, and just out of curiosity, does the new functions detect the player sex, I've noticed there isn't an entry for Bras on mine and the arm cuffs seem to be missing a MCM menu entry.
circ Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Screenshot? Just tested all three items locally, with no problem. No screenshot possible, already saved over it. Think it was just volumetric fog from a certain angle acting weird with the ENB or something. As for harness. I tested it with another character, started off with custom harness. What the hell, my body mesh went invisible in the inventory screen background, and I had to click the message box twice as usual, but it actually worked. But then I tried the regular slave harness and it just crashed immediately. I dunno what's up. Disabled HDT PE because it's been crash prone with a badly configured .xml file, but that didn't make a difference.
Min Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 Min, since the Devices Underneath is player only, I've noticed that since I play a male character with custom armor, the hiding slot 52 doesn't seem to work, and just out of curiosity, does the new functions detect the player sex, I've noticed there isn't an entry for Bras on mine and the arm cuffs seem to be missing a MCM menu entry. Nope, nothing within the new system cares about the player's gender. Are you sure that you're not overlooking the slot 59 entry (Armcuffs / arm binders)?. Post a screenshot? Regarding the mention of it not working for slot 52: The visual appearance of the character isn't updated until your inventory is closed, unless QueueNiNodeUpdate() is used (Though, that comes with drawbacks: See the help text for that option in the MCM). Are you sure that you did so when testing your changes?
DustyK Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Does the new version conflict with dual sheath redux? Dual sheath redux stopped working for me after updating.
Min Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 Does the new version conflict with dual sheath redux? Dual sheath redux stopped working for me after updating. If dual sheath redux uses slot 60, then it could be getting unequipped by the device hider. Change the slot for it to something else, via the MCM menu (That's why it's a configurable option).
DustyK Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Does the new version conflict with dual sheath redux? Dual sheath redux stopped working for me after updating. If dual sheath redux uses slot 60, then it could be getting unequipped by the device hider. Change the slot for it to something else, via the MCM menu (That's why it's a configurable option). Okay Thanks for the very quick support
Min Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 Screenshot? Just tested all three items locally, with no problem. No screenshot possible, already saved over it. Think it was just volumetric fog from a certain angle acting weird with the ENB or something. As for harness. I tested it with another character, started off with custom harness. What the hell, my body mesh went invisible in the inventory screen background, and I had to click the message box twice as usual, but it actually worked. But then I tried the regular slave harness and it just crashed immediately. I dunno what's up. Disabled HDT PE because it's been crash prone with a badly configured .xml file, but that didn't make a difference. Looking in to this, thanks.
harakoni Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 so what does the ebonite stuff do? Or is it just a new texture essentially?
Slammer64 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Ok, I'm sorry Min, but I don't even see a slot 59 entry in my MCM menu, and I have QueueNiNodeUpdate() enabled, the entries for the Bras, and Leg Cuffs are definitely missing and the SoS slots are not working, I'm afraid I'll have to try a new game out (whine) Screenshots included:
Min Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 Ok, I'm sorry Min, but I don't even see a slot 59 entry in my MCM menu, and I have QueueNiNodeUpdate() enabled, the entries for the Bras, and Leg Cuffs are definitely missing and the SoS slots are not working, I'm afraid I'll have to try a new game out (whine) Screenshots included: ScreenShot20.jpgScreenShot23.jpg Yup, just verified locally that the SoS object is uneffected by hiding slot 52: Presumably, it uses a different method to render on the actor (I'm not actually sure how it works, haven't looked in to it). However, you did point out that part of the menu is truncated for you: I'll split that over two mcm-pages. so what does the ebonite stuff do? Or is it just a new texture essentially? Correct.
rkoelsch1 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 For some reason the devices menu is no longer available and devices don't get installed on new deviant starts. not sure how to get a papyrus log but I have my loot load order. Summary Details Filters <div>The LOOT Report requires Javascript to be enabled in order to function.</div> Skyrim.esmCRC: C665FD56 Update.esmCRC: 328DCA6D Add: Delev, Relev Unofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 5F834CBF Version: 2.0.4 Add: Delev, Names, Relev, Stats Dawnguard.esmCRC: 54851987 Add: Delev, Relev Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.espCRC: 1855702B Version: 2.0.3 Add: Delev, Names, Relev, Stats HearthFires.esmCRC: E06FDE6A Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.espCRC: A7C2D6C4 Version: 2.0.3 Add: Names Dragonborn.esmCRC: 32878EC Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.espCRC: A32CA832 Version: 2.0.3 Add: Delev ApachiiHair.esmCRC: 783F7167 Version: 1.4 SexLab.esmCRC: E2DE82F8 Version: 1.57 Devious Devices - Assets.esmCRC: 36BD21C0 Version: 2.7.5 RaceCompatibility.esmCRC: AF13C52F SexLabAroused.esmCRC: B6F3D900 SharedSeranaDialogue.esmCRC: 2ECF2765 ZaZAnimationPack.esmCRC: AD185563 Devious Devices - Integration.esmCRC: 9A5D93D1 Devious Devices - Expansion.esmCRC: D01948CF daymoyl.esmCRC: C1EDD90F hdtHighHeel.esmCRC: 95D50087 RaceMenuOverlays.espCRC: 7C24FBC4 RaceMenuPlugin.espCRC: 8A8A009F Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. Auto Unequip Ammo.espCRC: 4B399546 AMatterOfTime.espCRC: 512CD10C Version: 2.00 Gatti14Yumiko.espCRC: 85B6F398 SkyUI.espCRC: 9330CAF7 Version: 4.1 Brawl Bugs CE.espCRC: D284ACF BelethorHatesMe.espCRC: F244755B Devious Deviants.espCRC: F0B3A3DF RaceMenu.espCRC: 2765B7D0 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.espCRC: 1B43A4AC EB-Gender.espCRC: 1E09EF8 SexLabWerewolves.espCRC: 3C79ECB1 SSv2.espCRC: 30B12330 SexLab RND.espCRC: 862EA47D SexLabNudeCreatures.espCRC: AFC3D170 SexLab Submit.espCRC: 93838121 SexLab Submit Serana.espCRC: E5FC3E8B HearthFire Display Case Fix.espCRC: 2F134175 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.espCRC: C3172696 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.espCRC: EE025E98 Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif. Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espCRC: 916E8168 Add: Delev, Relev, Stats Clothing & Clutter Fixes.espCRC: 1BA7A412 Add: Delev, Relev, Stats Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.espCRC: 4776866D ArmoredCircletsQuickFox.espCRC: 128541BA Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.espCRC: 9E90FE36 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.espCRC: B74B21DA Add: Delev, Relev RND_USKP-Patch.espCRC: A9317018 Add: Relev RND_Dawnguard-Patch.espCRC: A554A56D RND_Dragonborn-Patch.espCRC: 72A698CB Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.espCRC: 17C8569C SexLab_DibellaCult.espCRC: 5B203A5C Captured Dreams.espCRC: 7046BF6D xazPrisonOverhaul.espCRC: 5ADDA444 RND_HearthFires-Patch.espCRC: E3E62E4 RND_AnimalLoot.espCRC: FE916A6E Rabbit's Foot Caravan.espCRC: DBBF491F AngrimApprentice.espCRC: D6C75454 Version: 1.30 OhmesRaht.espCRC: 2205DFA6 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.espCRC: 67F00C2F Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.espCRC: 4051D948 SexLabDefeat.espCRC: E1D77306 addlHq.espCRC: C891FBA8 MF_RadiantProstitution.espCRC: 69B865D3 Neo's Slave Leia.espCRC: 646C8A1C Alternate Start - Live Another Life.espCRC: 3B8A08F1 Version: 2.3.6b Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.espCRC: 220740E9 Summary LOOT Version 0.5.0 Masterlist Version c07a76beb Masterlist Updating Enabled Total Number of Messages 5 Number of Warnings 0 Number of Errors 0 General MessagesNote: Latest LOOT thread. Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date. Note: It appears you have Fores New Idles in Skyrim installed. Remember to run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe every time you have installed or de-installed FNIS, or a FNIS based mod. Hide Version NumbersHide CRCsHide Bash Tag SuggestionsHide NotesHide 'Do Not Clean' MessagesHide All Plugin MessagesHide Messageless Plugins 0 of 67 plugins hidden. 2 of 2 messages hidden.
Coopervane Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 **! SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT !** There's a broken mesh in Devious Expansion 1.1.0, the UNPB version of the "Custom Slave Harness" was not cleaned and contained an .obj file used durring development, that's a non-functional NiTriShape and this is what's causing the crash. I've just submitted a working version to Min to be uploaded as Devious Expansion v1.1.1. In the meantime, for those of you who have installed the UNPB option, here is a hotfix: UNPB-Fix.7z It's a drag and drop install, say yes to overwrite! Sorry for any inconveniance.
Min Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 For some reason the devices menu is no longer available and devices don't get installed on new deviant starts. not sure how to get a papyrus log but I have my loot load order. Without a copy of the log, I can't troubleshoot your problem. Also, please use spoiler tags for things like your load order. **! SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT !** There's a broken mesh in Devious Expansion 1.1.0, the UNPB version of the "Custom Slave Harness" was not cleaned and contained an .obj file used durring development, that's a non-functional NiTriShape and this is what's causing the crash. I've just submitted a working version to Min to be uploaded as Devious Expansion v1.1.1. In the meantime, for those of you who have installed the UNPB option, here is a hotfix: UNPB-Fix.7z It's a drag and drop install, say yes to overwrite! Sorry for any inconveniance. Version 1.1.1 of the expansion is now up.
permidion Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 after reinstalling everything, I noticed my character cant speedrun now when wearing the leg cuff. I was wondering if that effect can be configured (as in disabled) ?
Min Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 after reinstalling everything, I noticed my character cant speedrun now when wearing the leg cuff. I was wondering if that effect can be configured (as in disabled) ? That's not an effect that the stock leg-cuffs from DD add.
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