Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[jib_buttkiss]

3 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

Is there a specific type of playstyle/build you think works best for seeing this mod's content? I assume either a pure or hybrid mage given Lyvelia's quest is locked behind the college and Morella gives spells as a reward.

 

Eh, I don't think there's anything specific. Morella's rewards are spellbooks (because she's a mage), but the rewards for Erina's quest (if you take that ending) are better for martial or sneak characters, and the potential rewards for Lumiette's quest (in the next update) are best for an archer. The only quest gated behind a faction is Lyvelia's, so you need to be able to get into the college to start that, but anyone can do that really. In the next version, Lumiette's little quest won't start until you've joined either the Dawnguard or Volkihar, but again that doesn't require any specific character.

 

Just in terms of playing the whole mod I'd say anything other than a martial would be best, if only because that gives you the best chance of surviving as a bimbo. You can't wear armour, so you need to stay at a distance in combat. Your weapon damage is reduced, but so is your magicka so some breadth in skills is probably good too.

 

15 minutes ago, AphroditesEye said:

Some more suggestions for the mod - since Morella recommends wearing gloves while using the growth salve, perhaps the consequence of not doing so is that the player gains either equal or a smaller amount of morphs to Lyvi? I know the player already gains some corruption, but it feels strange that the gloves are recommended for no reason. Plus it's a fun consequence if the player "accidently" forgets to equip them.

 

I think I also suggested doing some morphs during Lyvelia's quest at some point since it was an "artificial" transformation as well, but my memory is poor; so that too if not the case. It'd help add to the feel that the curse actually is progressing beyond some stat debuffs and a tattoo. The blonde hair was already a good way to do it, though. Having some post quest Lyvelia or Dareel content could be pretty cool as well, either with services that increase/reduce corruption or just a little more dialogue. Dareel in particular feels like he could use a little more to him, and Lyvelia having some extra commentary when the player becomes Arch-Mage could be nice. (I'm a big fan of this quest, if it wasn't incredibly obvious!)

Some small hint as to where Anaita got her note in Whiterun could be fun too, I assume the implication is that it's cursed or magical in nature; or perhaps that she was bimbofied by the bandits on purpose using said note.

Since Balgruuf's wife/wives don't appear in game, that might make a fun little area to do a quest in. It's never explained what actually happened to them or even hinted, so you could possibly do something with that? I don't think anyone in game even has dialogue referencing them other than Nelkir claiming he has a different Mother, so you could probably just make them as NPCs without some weird clashing lore of people saying they're gone without a trace.

Riverwood being the introduction to the game could have a small introductory quest/character to Bimbofication. Maybe a character with a short quest that starts the player down the path of seeking them out or trying to avoid the curse entirely? Alternatively having some sort of Innkeeper rumor-type system that points players towards different Bimbo quests.

The Companions are constantly drinking, something affiliated with Sanguine. Could do an NPC based around that. Morthal lacks any shopkeepers that aren't an alchemist, and Karthwasten despite being a town has none at all. Given Karthwasten is owned by a non-Forsworn Reachmen, that could be something to work with. Falkreath is the only major city without a Mercenary - even Raven Rock has one! That's a potential character slot. There's quite a few little oddities of missing NPC placements that can be used if desired.

 

For the gloves, I might hit the player with a small timed debuff ("swollen hands" or something) if they forget to wear gloves, but it doesn't seem right to have your breasts swell because you got salve on your hands.

 

Yeah, some breast morphs for the player during Lyvelia's quest is on my list to do, just as a twiddly little thing- add some morphs if the player isn't a bimbo, change Lyvelia's comment about them, revert them at the end. I'll get around to it before I release 1.7. For post-quest activities, Lyvvi should have a little mini-quest for you, but maybe I'll come up with something for Lyvelia too (probably not in the next version though).

I'm definitely giving Lyvelia some dialogue for if you're the Archmage now, I like that idea. Similarly, maybe eventually other factions can comment on the fact that their boss is a bimbofied idiot.

But Dareel only really exists as a character for Lyvelia's quest. I don't have any real direction for him to expand on with interactions- I think he might even get disabled after the quest is done, currently.

 

I'm not too fussed about explaining Anaita's note, really. Maybe she wrote it and as a bimbo her sluttiness is contagious, maybe it's something she found and was cursed by, or the bandits found it and used it to bimbofy her. I just feel like it's not something worth locking in an explanation for.

 

Balgruuf's wives are an interesting idea, but anything involving Jarls gets tricky because the civil war can displace them. A generic "Talk the the Jarl" objective is fine, you can condition it to use either of the potential ones, but "Talk to Balgruuf" has to consider that he might be living in exile in Solitude.

 

Anaita was kinda meant to be that sort of "tutorial bimbo", in the Whiterun inn. Maybe I should have put her in Riverwood, but, eh, close enough. 

Something I've already done for 1.7 is add some rumours to point to the more out-of-the-way bimbo quests, the same way the vanilla game does. For example, as you walk through Solitude, a guard might comment on that strange young priestess in the temple, and then you get a misc. objective to meet Erina.

 

Yeah, there's a couple of places in the game that I've got my eye on to slot in NPCs in my Future Ideas section. I had a concept for the Thieves Guild I never got around to, of a spoiled rich girl who's only joined up to spite her father ("but if you're making him mad by being a thief, how much angrier would he be if you were a whore?!") which has been floating around in the mod's files for a while. Salma who in vanilla just despawns after her quest, Windhelm with no guard captain, your spouse.

 

  

45 minutes ago, SkyAddiction said:

 

It's very off-topic, but it just occurred to me - not one, not a single one, of the political characters has a spouse. No guild leaders, no jarls, not Delphene, Tullius, nor any Thalmor characters. None of them. 

 

I'd bet it's because the big political figures are all connected to the Civil War, which is so unstable that there's literally a note from the devs in its scripting warning you not to reference it for your own scripts. I could see it being easier to just have everyone be single than to add more (basically decorative) characters that need to be handled by the quest.

[AphroditesEye]

12 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Yeah, there's a couple of places in the game that I've got my eye on to slot in NPCs in my Future Ideas section. I had a concept for the Thieves Guild I never got around to, of a spoiled rich girl who's only joined up to spite her father ("but if you're making him mad by being a thief, how much angrier would he be if you were a whore?!") which has been floating around in the mod's files for a while. Salma who in vanilla just despawns after her quest, Windhelm with no guard captain, your spouse.

I never even considered Salma, that's a really good one. You don't have to worry about conflicts that way. Alea from "With Friends Like These" could also work if you don't kill her since there's no reference to her in the game outside of this quest. Karita also works - she was always bizarre to me, literally is only in the game during The Way of the Voice and is just disabled again after. I remember back when the game was new I scoured the world looking for her because her line of "Just a pilgrim, I'd prefer to leave it at that" made me think there was some interesting quest she'd give if you found her again.

[SkyAddiction]

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

I'd bet it's because the big political figures are all connected to the Civil War, which is so unstable that there's literally a note from the devs in its scripting warning you not to reference it for your own scripts. I could see it being easier to just have everyone be single than to add more (basically decorative) characters that need to be handled by the quest.

 

I don't think I ever even looked at that questline in the CK. I played out the civil war twice, decided I hated both sides, and never started it again.

 

I guess it makes sense? Even so, adding spouses with generic lines who do nothing but idle in the various living quarters would've cost them almost nothing performance-wise or in dev time. It also doesn't explain the guild leaders. It's honestly just odd.

[AphroditesEye]

On 10/15/2023 at 10:11 PM, SkyAddiction said:

 

I don't think I ever even looked at that questline in the CK. I played out the civil war twice, decided I hated both sides, and never started it again.

 

I guess it makes sense? Even so, adding spouses with generic lines who do nothing but idle in the various living quarters would've cost them almost nothing performance-wise or in dev time. It also doesn't explain the guild leaders. It's honestly just odd.

The Civil War had a lot of cut content and revision during development, which is why it feels so weird in the release version. There's a good chance they couldn't remove it and just sort of stitched together whatever they had that was functional enough to put in the game; because there's an enormous amount of scripts and quests in the files that go unused. The CW is kind of a mess to look at in the Creation Kit so they left that note basically going "DO NOT REFERENCE THIS, MODDERS" to warn people away from those files. There's actually quite a bit of content like this in Skyrim, just not so blatantly that it warns away people from touching it. Dragonborn for example has a few interactions with Miraak that don't appear in the final game, and you can find references and voice clips from a very different opening to Dawnguard.

I spend a lot of time looking through the files in the CK out of curiosity haha

[AphroditesEye]

I know it's not likely to be encountered by a lot of players, but why not give Holdan some unique dialogue for the player if they are in the process of turning into a Bimbo but the curse hasn't fully taken over yet? Could give some minor differences depending on what stage they're at. Given he's interested in seeing how the curse works, there's at least something to work with there even if he can't actually do anything for you.

Also, some minor flavor dialogue for the Lyvelia and Erina quest curses with him could be nice.

[ebbluminous]

Nice to see Love Sickness has been updatesd, so @jib_buttkiss, can't wait to see what you come up with now...

[jib_buttkiss]

2 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

I know it's not likely to be encountered by a lot of players, but why not give Holdan some unique dialogue for the player if they are in the process of turning into a Bimbo but the curse hasn't fully taken over yet? Could give some minor differences depending on what stage they're at. Given he's interested in seeing how the curse works, there's at least something to work with there even if he can't actually do anything for you.

Also, some minor flavor dialogue for the Lyvelia and Erina quest curses with him could be nice.

 

Some mid-bimbofication chats for Holdan are a good idea. It can show the progression of the curse- you're worried at first, then you start to relax about it, and then near the end you're excited about turning into a slut. All the while, he's just studying you and taking notes. And I actually don't think it would be too obscure- if you'd already met him, surely he'd be your first stop once the curse starts.  And since rumours can point you to him, and his house has a map marker you might see on your compass near Windhelm, it wouldn't surprise me if people find him organically.

 

As for the other chats, already done! It's fairly simple stuff (I wasn't about to rework the quests to account for him), but you'll be able to ask him for advice on Lyvelia and Erina's quests (and Morella's hair, if she's your girlfriend). He won't really tell you anything critical to the quests or be any help, but he does potentially provide a little more backstory or context for them.

 

 

1 hour ago, ebbluminous said:

Nice to see Love Sickness has been updatesd, so @jib_buttkiss, can't wait to see what you come up with now...

 

Well, the plan is currently two things:

-While Lovesick, all corruption gains are increased

-When a bimbo, gain a little bit of Euphoria every hour (which should basically trap you being lovesick forever, unless you're really good about resisting it).

Both of which can be configured in the MCM.

 

The interfaces Hexbolt has set up look really simple and usable (and I've always been keen on the mod!) so I'm probably going to have it ready for the next update.

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[ebbluminous]

38 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Well, the plan is currently two things:

-While Lovesick, all corruption gains are increased

-When a bimbo, gain a little bit of Euphoria every hour (which should basically trap you being lovesick forever, unless you're really good about resisting it).

Both of which can be configured in the MCM.

 

The interfaces Hexbolt has set up look really simple and usable (and I've always been keen on the mod!) so I'm probably going to have it ready for the next update.

 

Like the sound of those. Maybe have a chance to gain corruption when Love Sickness is triggered/gained?

[jib_buttkiss]

1 hour ago, ebbluminous said:

Like the sound of those. Maybe have a chance to gain corruption when Love Sickness is triggered/gained?

 

There's no event to detect Love Sickness triggering, so I can't do that. But maybe I should change from having Love Sickness boosting corruption gains to having all sex while Lovesick add corruption- even consensual gentle sex. Now that I type it out, I feel like that makes more sense.

[zittonⅡ]

49 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

没有事件可以检测爱情病触发，所以我不能这样做。但也许我应该从让爱病促进腐败收益转变为让所有性行为，而相思病增加腐败——甚至是双方同意的温柔性行为。现在我把它打出来了，我觉得这更有意义。

just want you know it is a good mod, love from china. An extra problem is if I use the botox of skyrim to replace the npc, Lily does not have her hair, could you teach me how to solve this bug?

[jib_buttkiss]

11 minutes ago, zittonⅡ said:

just want you know it is a good mod, love from china. An extra problem is if I use the botox of skyrim to replace the npc, Lily does not have her hair, could you teach me how to solve this bug?

 

No idea. It's a problem with SE Botox, not with this mod. But I'll fix it in the next version- I'll be adding some actual hairs into the mod, and I'll give her one of those.

[zittonⅡ]

4 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

不知道。这是 SE 肉毒杆菌毒素的问题，而不是这个模组的问题。但我会在下一个版本中修复它 - 我将在 Mod 中添加一些实际的头发，我会给她其中之一。

ok, thanks

[AphroditesEye]

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

No idea. It's a problem with SE Botox, not with this mod. But I'll fix it in the next version- I'll be adding some actual hairs into the mod, and I'll give her one of those.

Is there any way to actually change the player's natural hair color without the helmet slot replacement? I'm not sure the CK is actually capable of that, but it'd be cool to see. There's a mod on SE called "Let Your Hair Down" which I've been using to somewhat supplement this mod to switch between my desired hair that could possibly be used to reference; dynamically set multiple hairs to simulate hair growth if you're not using YPS. Just set 2-3 different hairstyles that the game swaps between depending on curse progression. I'm not sure if it's on LE, but that might be somewhere you can look.

[Balgin]

47 minutes ago, AphroditesEye said:

Is there any way to actually change the player's natural hair color without the helmet slot replacement? I'm not sure the CK is actually capable of that, but it'd be cool to see. There's a mod on SE called "Let Your Hair Down" which I've been using to somewhat supplement this mod to switch between my desired hair that could possibly be used to reference; dynamically set multiple hairs to simulate hair growth if you're not using YPS. Just set 2-3 different hairstyles that the game swaps between depending on curse progression. I'm not sure if it's on LE, but that might be somewhere you can look.

There's an LE version too. I honestly wondered if Emily might be able to do something similar for ponytails and plaits where the hair could remember it's previous style when let down again.

[foreveraloneguy]

Did this awhile back and forgot about it. It's a psd with Lyv's tattoos as layers. BnP and Diamond are included, but just add whatever body diffuse you're using and delete or disable the other body layers. It's not perfect, but should be fine for anyone that's not a screen archer running in 8K while taking extreme close ups.

 

 

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[AphroditesEye]

Aight so the real question is when are we getting the full-fledged Bimbo of Skyrim questline where we fight the Cult of Sanguine trying to bimbofy all of Tamriel and using the power of Mara's missionary-position-only to purify the Priesthood of Dibella of its Bimbo influence?

[jib_buttkiss]

15 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

Is there any way to actually change the player's natural hair color without the helmet slot replacement? I'm not sure the CK is actually capable of that, but it'd be cool to see. There's a mod on SE called "Let Your Hair Down" which I've been using to somewhat supplement this mod to switch between my desired hair that could possibly be used to reference; dynamically set multiple hairs to simulate hair growth if you're not using YPS. Just set 2-3 different hairstyles that the game swaps between depending on curse progression. I'm not sure if it's on LE, but that might be somewhere you can look.

 

I mean could, but given that YPS already handles that so well, it's hard to find the motivation to do it. Besides, I've got no desire to mess with Headpart switching again after hammering out hair/colour changing without wigs for NPCs - and 99% of that was done by Okshi91!

 

6 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said:

Did this awhile back and forgot about it. It's a psd with Lyv's tattoos as layers. BnP and Diamond are included, but just add whatever body diffuse you're using and delete or disable the other body layers. It's not perfect, but should be fine for anyone that's not a screen archer running in 8K while taking extreme close up.

 

Yeah, I should just change Lyvvi to use the default body and some slavetats, rather than a custom skin. It's a holdover from before I had any idea what I was doing, I should really tidy it up.

 

2 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

Aight so the real question is when are we getting the full-fledged Bimbo of Skyrim questline where we fight the Cult of Sanguine trying to bimbofy all of Tamriel and using the power of Mara's missionary-position-only to purify the Priesthood of Dibella of its Bimbo influence?

 

Eh. I've got no interest in having a "main quest", so to speak. I think it's much more interesting to have a variety of smaller stories with various characters. I reckon it fits the feel of the mod better, too. Basically, I wouldn't expect any quests much longer than Childish Games any time soon.

[AphroditesEye]

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Eh. I've got no interest in having a "main quest", so to speak. I think it's much more interesting to have a variety of smaller stories with various characters. I reckon it fits the feel of the mod better, too. Basically, I wouldn't expect any quests much longer than Childish Games any time soon.

That post was mostly a joke, but honestly I'm surprised that Childish Games was as long as it was; you really went all out there.

[SkyAddiction]

3 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Eh. I've got no interest in having a "main quest", so to speak. I think it's much more interesting to have a variety of smaller stories with various characters. I reckon it fits the feel of the mod better, too. Basically, I wouldn't expect any quests much longer than Childish Games any time soon.

 

IMO, the curse is the quest. You're either trying to make it happen or trying to avoid it. Everything else is a side-quest.

 

38 minutes ago, AphroditesEye said:

That post was mostly a joke, but honestly I'm surprised that Childish Games was as long as it was; you really went all out there.

 

A three-way war of deified ambitions spread over all of Skyrim? Even as a joke, it's probably one of the more creative ideas for an adult quest that I've seen in a while.

[AphroditesEye]

1 hour ago, SkyAddiction said:

A three-way war of deified ambitions spread over all of Skyrim? Even as a joke, it's probably one of the more creative ideas for an adult quest that I've seen in a while.

Thanks, I do a lot of writing in my spare time. This is my favorite mod currently, so I like to spitball ideas when they come to mind.

[AphroditesEye]

Does Holdan have unique dialogue if you talk to him as a Bimbo - aside from his introduction? Given you've said his wife is a Bimbo, I would gauge he'd have interactions either on the side of "No thanks, I deal with this so much that it's not impressively appealing anymore.", or "Well hey fuck it since you're already here, for the research!"

Holdan also has dialogue indicating he has some friends that would like to use the Player in an orgy if they think Bimbofication is hot. Have you ever played Fallout 3? There's a character in it named Moira Brown who gives the player quests to understand the wasteland better; and some of those include breaking bones or intentionally getting irradiated on purpose to study the effects and best way to undo them. Could do something like that - obviously a lot less hurt-y, with intentionally corrupting oneself to help Holdan's research, even going so far as to becoming bimbofied if not careful; or if convinced by Holdan. His friends could be one of the ways to do this. At the end of Moira's quests, she undoes the effect and the player gets a bonus. Holdan could offer to undo the corruption, or convince the player to keep it. Or perhaps you have to speech check him into undoing it.

Edited October 20, 2023 by AphroditesEye

[Balgin]

9 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

That post was mostly a joke, but honestly I'm surprised that Childish Games was as long as it was; you really went all out there.

I thought it was a reference to Deep Blue Frog's Sisterhood of Dibella mod which basically does most of what you suggested already. I was tempted to let you know that that particular mod exists but decided to hold off for a while and see where things went.

[ASVPxCP]

is there a way to turn off the option of having random items taking out my inventory

[jib_buttkiss]

3 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

That post was mostly a joke, but honestly I'm surprised that Childish Games was as long as it was; you really went all out there.

 

Childish Games got away from me a bit and ended up longer than I'd intended, but it just needed that length for the slowly increasing humiliation to really hit properly.

 

2 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

IMO, the curse is the quest. You're either trying to make it happen or trying to avoid it. Everything else is a side-quest.

 

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

 

19 minutes ago, AphroditesEye said:

Does Holdan have unique dialogue if you talk to him as a Bimbo - aside from his introduction? Given you've said his wife is a Bimbo, I would gauge he'd have interactions either on the side of "No thanks, I deal with this so much that it's not impressively appealing anymore.", or "Well hey fuck it since you're already here, for the research!"

Holdan also has dialogue indicating he has some friends that would like to use the Player in an orgy if they think Bimbofication is hot. Have you ever played Fallout 3? There's a character in it named Moira Brown who gives the player quests to understand the wasteland better; and some of those include breaking bones or intentionally getting irradiated on purpose to study the effects and best way to undo them. Could do something like that - obviously a lot less hurt-y, with intentionally corrupting oneself to help Holdan's research, even going so far as to becoming bimbofied if not careful; or if convinced by Holdan. His friends could be one of the ways to do this. At the end of Moira's quests, she undoes the effect and the player gets a bonus. Holdan could offer to undo the corruption, or convince the player to keep it. Or perhaps you have to speech check him into undoing it.

 

He will, kinda. A lot of his conversation topics are the same, but you'll give different responses. Normally, for example, when he tells you about the curse, you might respond that it's fascinating, horrifying, or weirdly hot. As a bimbo, the only response you can give is enthusiastic happiness about it.

He's not too impressed by you if you're a bimbo, since his wife is one already he's fairly used to the whole concept. Basically, he knows there's no point trying to have a sensible conversation with you since all you'll do it giggle back.

 

The line about friends was just meant to be a throwaway thing along the lines of "Oh, you think weird freaky sex stuff is hot? What are you doing tonight?!", except that he's married. I might rejig it so that it doesn't give any false expectations.

It wouldn't feel right to have him deliberately experiment on you, though. The character I have for him in my head (no idea if it will actually come across in the mod, I'm no writer!) is that he's basically a good guy in a weird situation. He sets you up with Bimbo Tonics with no catch because he sees someone he could help and, hey, why wouldn't he? He won't take advantage of you like Dareel does, he's quite happy to just live outside of town with his loving, sex-addicted, wife.

 

  

1 minute ago, ASVPxCP said:

is there a way to turn off the option of having random items taking out my inventory

 

What random items? That doesn't sound like it should be happening at all.

[LinksSword]

Integrating this with Whorecrux would be interesting, each fracture stage adding a bunch of corruption.