SexLab Defeat

[badtwister]

Is anyone else getting this?  My player is getting raped by creatures only no humans.  I feel like I must of clicked the wrong button somewhere. Any idea why this is happening?

 

[Baadar]

I need some help...or suggestions or whatever...you'll see i've tried everything already (depending on the replys, this may not be true) but i don't seem to find a solution...no matter what i try, i don't get to see this work...i've already installed fnis again, reinstall the sex mods and nothing...My character just stand still...if i try to be the victim, well the rapers came to me take my stuff off but they'll just laugh and all but no animation starts...and after a while my char just stands up and well, they knock me down again and the same, no animation...sometimes they can't even knock my char down (Rapeproof xD)...on the other hand...well...almost the same, if i try to be the aggresor i knock them down take off their stuff but nothing...no animation...same goes for the creatures...BUT if the NPC's want to rape another NPC...they can do it!!! like nothing, they will rape anything but my char xD!!!  And well it's annoying...im not sure if is some incompatibility...i use:

Sexlab, Romance, Aroused, Hook, Comfort, Defeat and TDF...but i don't see why the animations can't trigger...

...Also this may be out of place...but when an animation triggers (using another mod but Defeat) My Pc and the Npc start the animation...but is not aligned...on the other hand Npc vs Npc triggered by Defeat will be perfectly aligned...so that's my problem, im not sure what can be wrong...i really hope someone can helps.

[Duchess_Gummybuns]

I need some help...or suggestions or whatever...you'll see i've tried everything already (depending on the replys, this may not be true) but i don't seem to find a solution...no matter what i try, i don't get to see this work...i've already installed fnis again, reinstall the sex mods and nothing...My character just stand still...if i try to be the victim, well the rapers came to me take my stuff off but they'll just laugh and all but no animation starts...and after a while my char just stands up and well, they knock me down again and the same, no animation...sometimes they can't even knock my char down (Rapeproof xD)...on the other hand...well...almost the same, if i try to be the aggresor i knock them down take off their stuff but nothing...no animation...same goes for the creatures...BUT if the NPC's want to rape another NPC...they can do it!!! like nothing, they will rape anything but my char xD!!! And well it's annoying...im not sure if is some incompatibility...i use:

Sexlab, Romance, Aroused, Hook, Comfort, Defeat and TDF...but i don't see why the animations can't trigger...

...Also this may be out of place...but when an animation triggers (using another mod but Defeat) My Pc and the Npc start the animation...but is not aligned...on the other hand Npc vs Npc triggered by Defeat will be perfectly aligned...so that's my problem, im not sure what can be wrong...i really hope someone can helps.

I had the same thing happen with one of my pcs, one, not all. I too felt i had tried everything, but after much tinkering with the mcm, running of FNIS, it eventually worked. It was so long ago i'm afraid i cant give you a definitive answer, but i can give you hope, i suppos.

[webb71]

Having a little issue. Every single creature seems to work fine aside from dragons.  When it comes to dragons they knock down my character and then instead of beginning the animation  it flies away or continues attacking and my character gets up again 

[Vrex]

I was having problems with dragons, wolves, and giants not working but every other creature I tested (draugr, spiders, sabrecats, bears, frost giants, and horses) all worked perfectly fine. So I figured some thing went wrong with the install, made a clean save and reinstalled the mod. This time I left all the settings at default and tested all the same creatures again and this time they all worked perfectly. Since I figured the problem was solved I went ahead and made changes to the settings, saved, restarted, tested again, and found that the original problem was back with the dragons, wolves and giants not working. So I made another clean save and verfied all the creatures were working again. This time I made only the following changes to the settings section of the "Player as Victim" tab:

Scenario:                All Down
Prerequisite:           Both
Exhaustion:             30%
Health:                    30%
Min Health:              0%
Chance on hit:        10%
Morality:                  enabled
Male aggressors:    enabled
Female...:                enabled
Turns:                      enabled
Threesome:             enabled
Threesome chance: 30%
Companion Coll:      enabled
Knock Down:            60 seconds

So it appears something about these settings makes the wolves, giants, and dragons not want to work with this version. These settings did work fine in 4.1, minus the two new options. Any ideas?

Thank you for the mod and all the work you put into it, it's quite enjoyable having additional incentive not to suck.

[Vrex]

Immediatly after I made the above post it occurred to me to disable morality and that did the trick. Looks like Dragons, wolves, and giants are moral creatures.

[Duchess_Gummybuns]

Haha. Thats funny.

[saladboy21]

OK I tested the program with the previous beta for Sexlab, which worked fine with animals.  Wolves still would not rape. Double checked that animals were enabled in sexlab and defeat (they were) so the problem appears to be with defeat, not sexlab.

 

Here is my load order

 

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
HentaiPregnancy.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
SexLab Solutions.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
brawlbug-plugin.esp=1
HentaiMilk_HEARTHFIRE.esp=1
SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp=1
SexLab_Paycrime.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
Futa equippable.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
HPSoulGemBirth.esp=0
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
SexLab Romance.esp=1
SexLabWorkingGirl.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
mjhKhajiitSpeak.esp=0
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
SexLabBeastTamer.esp=1
Helmets - Khajiit Ears.esp=1
mjhKhajiitSpeak - Sexlab Romance.esp=0
mjhKhajiitSpeak - Sexlab Solutions.esp=0
mjhKhajiitSpeak - LoversComfort.esp=0
mjhKhajiitSpeak - Sexlab Horny Followers All.esp=0
mjhKhajiitSpeak - Sexlab Horny Followers Female.esp=0
mjhKhajiitSpeak - Sexlab Horny Followers male.esp=0
mjhKhajiitSpeak - Sexlab Radiant Prostitution.esp=0
mjhKhajiitSpeak - Sexlab Submit.esp=0
SexWithThieves.esp=1
Killable Children.esp=1
Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp=1
LoversComfort.esp=1
SexLabGuild.esp=1

 

 

Update: Reading the post above mine, which noted the morality issue, I retested with Morality off. Turns out the Morality check is what was keeping wolves from raping. They work fine without it.  Thank you for posting the answer, Vrex. It was very very helpful. It is appreciated when people solve their own problems and still post the answer, I would not have thought to check that.

[Asariphile]

Pretty disappointed about the hideout... I was really looking forward to capturing npcs. Be sure and do something with it, and don't let it just die

[Ser Maggot]

Indoors it works perfectly but outdoors it doesn't work at all, my character will strip the victim but then wont take his own clothes off. Then almost immediately the victim will go back to standing and acting like nothings happening.

 

From browsing around the forums I learned actor functions are synchronized to the framerate, maybe having half the framerate from being outdoors has something to do with it (20fps)?

 

Welp, this is exactly what I'm having, except it doesn't work for indoors too. I don't reach 20 FPS though, more like 30-45.

 

There are other functions in this mod not working for me which I outlined before. Seeing as people doesn't seem to have the same problems as I did, it could be just Skyrim sorcery in my system. Hopefully my fresh install of Skyrim will do the trick.

 

P.S.

And oh, Mod Organizer is awesome... [first time I used it]

[terrorofmorrowind]

I have some trouble using the "g" key. everytime I attack someone from behind, my char wil instantly kill the enemy instead of making them fall on the ground (or bleed out). I'm pretty sure it is not a bug because it did work before (i use it with PH slaved mod and that has always worked). 

Is it because i have to many scripts to load at the same time or is it just pure coincidence i have no clue.

I honestly have no clue what to do now. I hope i will here from you soon or someone else who has this problem.

 

EDIT: Just put the defeat file at the bottom of the mods listk, going to see what will happen.

[nutluck]

I have some trouble using the "g" key. everytime I attack someone from behind, my char wil instantly kill the enemy instead of making them fall on the ground (or bleed out). I'm pretty sure it is not a bug because it did work before (i use it with PH slaved mod and that has always worked). 

Is it because i have to many scripts to load at the same time or is it just pure coincidence i have no clue.

I honestly have no clue what to do now. I hope i will here from you soon or someone else who has this problem.

 

EDIT: Just put the defeat file at the bottom of the mods listk, going to see what will happen.

 

You have to hold the mod and action key at the same time when doing that. Or thats what it says in the OP, I have not tired it yet.

[naviprostar]

how many follower does defeat support, im using AFT. let say i have 2 or 3 followers, and i set it to 'ORIGINAL', will the rape start?

[JUSSME]

 

im not sure what it is for me but after a alittle while in game my game will crash randomly  and sometimes before it crashes when I go press the magic items menu or menu setting or sort i will get some weird colors like a dimond going crazy and then it will crash. if I disable only this mod then it does not crash

[terrorofmorrowind]

 

I have some trouble using the "g" key. everytime I attack someone from behind, my char wil instantly kill the enemy instead of making them fall on the ground (or bleed out). I'm pretty sure it is not a bug because it did work before (i use it with PH slaved mod and that has always worked). 

Is it because i have to many scripts to load at the same time or is it just pure coincidence i have no clue.

I honestly have no clue what to do now. I hope i will here from you soon or someone else who has this problem.

 

EDIT: Just put the defeat file at the bottom of the mods listk, going to see what will happen.

 

You have to hold the mod and action key at the same time when doing that. Or thats what it says in the OP, I have not tired it yet.

 

 

YES! i found the little culprit!

i used the tdetect cheat on my npcs to test the mod, but it seems that this was the reason why it killed them. after i turned it off all was normal again.

 

btw you can use "g+ shift" but that's only for insta rape someone without the menu system.

if you only use "g" it will force the npc into a bleed out like state (if succesful) and then you can choose, but when you press "g again" IN the actual animation it will kill the npc.

 

seems like the tdetect cheat interferes with the script of the g button for some reason (i'm just guessing you know, i know nothing about modding, just stating with i have seen here)

[Teruke]

for some reason after a multiple creature showdown, some of the creatures stay flat on the ground, which doesn't allow them to proceed doing whatever it is they do and it's game breaking if they decide to have another go, since nothing will happen.. the PC stays in bleed out foreva, i already messed with SL's ragdoll option and doesn't do anything...

[Ailsa]

@ terrorofmorrowind - if you are using the Customisable Camera mod it seems that the 'G' key is used by that mod too.  This caused issues in my game until I spotted it

[TnTTnT]

I am not sure whether it AFT related or not, if I set player victim as "No transition" - of course my follower a now going down with me but this also prevent raper to take her when finish with my PC as well.  Change setting to "Original" - my follower go down same time with my PC but after that she never get back on her foot.  

 

Any AFT user around here that can confirm whether it's AFT conflict or not?

 

Or any suggestion?  

[torn]

for some reason after a multiple creature showdown, some of the creatures stay flat on the ground, which doesn't allow them to proceed doing whatever it is they do and it's game breaking if they decide to have another go, since nothing will happen.. the PC stays in bleed out foreva, i already messed with SL's ragdoll option and doesn't do anything...

At me the same thing, especially with the wolves.

How to fix it? I tried different settings, boot order too. None of this helps.

[Goubo]

how many follower does defeat support, im using AFT. let say i have 2 or 3 followers, and i set it to 'ORIGINAL', will the rape start?

5.

In Original you and your followers will get knocked down at the same time.

 

I am not sure whether it AFT related or not, if I set player victim as "No transition" - of course my follower a now going down with me but this also prevent raper to take her when finish with my PC as well.  Change setting to "Original" - my follower go down same time with my PC but after that she never get back on her foot.  

 

Any AFT user around here that can confirm whether it's AFT conflict or not?

 

Or any suggestion?  

No transition does not launch the script loop where your followers are abused, about the Original scenario that shouldn't happen, I'll take a look.

 

 

for some reason after a multiple creature showdown, some of the creatures stay flat on the ground, which doesn't allow them to proceed doing whatever it is they do and it's game breaking if they decide to have another go, since nothing will happen.. the PC stays in bleed out foreva, i already messed with SL's ragdoll option and doesn't do anything...

At me the same thing, especially with the wolves.

How to fix it? I tried different settings, boot order too. None of this helps.

 

I don't know where this bug comes from, I didn't change much about how a scene is triggered, I'll see if it has to do with the deactivation of the ragdoll.

[NicoleDragoness]

@torn , @teruke , @Goubo

 

this happened to me with two giants too. But, after some seconds, about 10, they stand up again. I suppose it's related, maybe, to some settings I have with SexLab Utils.

Can you confirm you have the same mod?

[naviprostar]

I am not sure whether it AFT related or not, if I set player victim as "No transition" - of course my follower a now going down with me but this also prevent raper to take her when finish with my PC as well.  Change setting to "Original" - my follower go down same time with my PC but after that she never get back on her foot.  

 

Any AFT user around here that can confirm whether it's AFT conflict or not?

 

Or any suggestion?  

im using AFTlike you, im using 2 follower and i hardly able to get the sexlab defeat mod to start but when dismiss my follower until i have 1, the rape started.

 

im not sure if the mod can do multiple follower or just one

[naviprostar]

 

how many follower does defeat support, im using AFT. let say i have 2 or 3 followers, and i set it to 'ORIGINAL', will the rape start?

5.

In Original you and your followers will get knocked down at the same time.

 

I am not sure whether it AFT related or not, if I set player victim as "No transition" - of course my follower a now going down with me but this also prevent raper to take her when finish with my PC as well.  Change setting to "Original" - my follower go down same time with my PC but after that she never get back on her foot.  

 

Any AFT user around here that can confirm whether it's AFT conflict or not?

 

Or any suggestion?  

No transition does not launch the script loop where your followers are abused, about the Original scenario that shouldn't happen, I'll take a look.

 

 

for some reason after a multiple creature showdown, some of the creatures stay flat on the ground, which doesn't allow them to proceed doing whatever it is they do and it's game breaking if they decide to have another go, since nothing will happen.. the PC stays in bleed out foreva, i already messed with SL's ragdoll option and doesn't do anything...

At me the same thing, especially with the wolves.

How to fix it? I tried different settings, boot order too. None of this helps.

 

I don't know where this bug comes from, I didn't change much about how a scene is triggered, I'll see if it has to do with the deactivation of the ragdoll.

 

Mr.Goubo, Im using AFT and have 2 follower which is Lydia n Jennassa. i try to test out by letting myself get raped but it not working until i dismiss Jennassa

[Aveck]

First of all, great mod, i love it. It's really well done, it has a professional look and amazing content.

 

Secondly, i have to report that the "aggro" system in the "All down" setting in the player as a victim situation don't work that well. Most of the time, when enemies bring me down they just stop fighting and stand there, looking at me. My companions don't do nothing, as if the battle was over and now we are all friends. Of course, once the timer is up and i get to stand up again, i get brawled by all those enemies.

It's not a big deal, since i like "original" the most, but it's a pity nonetheless

 

Anyhow, i've noticed that my companions "rape" the enemy on random basis (basically every time they manage to take someone on their knees) which is not a bad thing afterall, but it can create some hilarious situation (when i'm in the middle of a battle with many enemies my companions spends most of the time raping people while i have to fight everyone by myself).

I know that this is a long shot, and since i'm not a modder i don't know who hard can this be, but would it be possible to make the "chance of being rapey" of the followers less random and more exponential? As in "Sometimes i don't want to rape anyone, sometimes i want to rape everyone", maybe by hooking (in an optional fashion) this mod to "SexLab Aroused" so that, the more the follower is aroused, the more likely she/he will rape the enemy once on his knee?

 

[naviprostar]

 

 

how many follower does defeat support, im using AFT. let say i have 2 or 3 followers, and i set it to 'ORIGINAL', will the rape start?

5.

In Original you and your followers will get knocked down at the same time.

 

I am not sure whether it AFT related or not, if I set player victim as "No transition" - of course my follower a now going down with me but this also prevent raper to take her when finish with my PC as well.  Change setting to "Original" - my follower go down same time with my PC but after that she never get back on her foot.  

 

Any AFT user around here that can confirm whether it's AFT conflict or not?

 

Or any suggestion?  

No transition does not launch the script loop where your followers are abused, about the Original scenario that shouldn't happen, I'll take a look.

 

 

for some reason after a multiple creature showdown, some of the creatures stay flat on the ground, which doesn't allow them to proceed doing whatever it is they do and it's game breaking if they decide to have another go, since nothing will happen.. the PC stays in bleed out foreva, i already messed with SL's ragdoll option and doesn't do anything...

At me the same thing, especially with the wolves.

How to fix it? I tried different settings, boot order too. None of this helps.

 

I don't know where this bug comes from, I didn't change much about how a scene is triggered, I'll see if it has to do with the deactivation of the ragdoll.

 

Mr.Goubo, Im using AFT and have 2 follower which is Lydia n Jennassa. i try to test out by letting myself get raped but it not working until i dismiss Jennassa

 

never mind, somehow it worked again...