Prison Alternative - A modular Prison System

[Pamatronic]

13 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

 

TDF is a prostitution framework mod.  Link

I see. Thanks for clarifying.
Dont really have the time to look it over and see what it does to the crimefactions, but original point I made earlier propably still stands.
PA doesnt NEED its edit, so its safer to make TDF win that conflict.

[maxdenusenko]

"special emphasis on compatibility" but not with VR ...

[Pamatronic]

8 hours ago, maxdenusenko said:

"special emphasis on compatibility" but not with VR ...

If you Sponsor me a VR headset, I'll do some Research in that Area.

[huhyeahso]

I tested the furniture and it works but none of the punishement pack registers in the prison alternative menu.

[Pamatronic]

34 minutes ago, huhyeahso said:

I tested the furniture and it works but none of the punishement pack registers in the prison alternative menu.

Make sure you have their esp's enabled.
If you installed the Punishment pack midgame, you need to manually re-register the Events in PA's MCM

[huhyeahso]

It was the esp yeah thank you.

[Gudulba]

On 3/10/2025 at 7:49 PM, EriWho said:

I'm having the same problem in Riften jail, using a bed replacer is causing the dialog option when you go to sleep to not popup. i'm currently using https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/138889 BOS version. When it's disabled the mod works just fine.

I get exactly the same issue with bed replacers as mentioned in this post and previous ones (PA sleep message not popping up, only the vanilla sleep message).

 

I have done some testing. I am using these bed replacers: Ignoble Beds (5 mods including BOS), Rustic Repose (5 mods including BOS) and Rally's Noble Furniture.

 

1) Whiterun's Dragonsreach prison: everything is working fine. When teleported into the prison, this message appears: and also the correct PA sleeping message box appears. Interesting fact: the bed in this prison is not a "bed", but a cot and therefore not touched by bed replacers:

 

2) Riften prison: PA not working. When teleported into the prison, no PA message appears and only the vanilla sleeping message box appears. The bed in this prison is a "Common Bed" and therefore touched by bed replacers:

 

 

Is there any way to keep PA working with bed replacers?

 

 

Edited April 7, 2025 by Gudulba

[effrenatus]

Hello! I had my forst real Prison Alternative experience yesterday and it was rough:
1. Is it normal that NPCs can just open all the locked prison doors??? Guard blew into my cell because Spank That Ass sent him and he left the cell door open. Confused, I walked around from cell to cell for a bit, carefully waiting if something would happen. Then later I got punished, i assume it was for that, Battle Fuck triggered, other prisoners joined, then they remained in front of my cell (at least one stayed for longer) and later he (the other prisoner who shoudl not have a key) also ran into my cell, through the locked again door... I got punished like 3 times for NPC just blowing my locked cell door, I believe.

2. Is it normal that the Whipping punishment doesn't really apply cane marks Slave Tats?

Edited April 7, 2025 by effrenatus

[Pamatronic]

On 4/4/2025 at 9:00 AM, Gudulba said:

Is there any way to keep PA working with bed replacers?

yes. you would need to change the trigger conditions of PA's bed interaction perk. This can be done with SSEdit, but its more practical if I do that myself and release as update.

[Pamatronic]

59 minutes ago, effrenatus said:

1. Is it normal that NPCs can just open all the locked prison doors???

If The NPC's current AI package has that checkbox ticked, then yes.
but this is an issue with SpankDatAss or your other mods. I have no way to prevent that in my own mod.
Mods like the ones you mentioned which randomly start scenes are fairly problematic in General. And its the responsibility of their respective authors to make sure they don't break other mods.

 

1 hour ago, effrenatus said:

2. Is it normal that the Whipping punishment doesn't really apply cane marks Slave Tats?

PA has no Slavetat integration. So yes, thats normal. You only get the regular whipmarks from Zap

[effrenatus]

55 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

If The NPC's current AI package has that checkbox ticked, then yes.
but this is an issue with SpankDatAss or your other mods. I have no way to prevent that in my own mod.
Mods like the ones you mentioned which randomly start scenes are fairly problematic in General. And its the responsibility of their respective authors to make sure they don't break other mods

Okay, then i guess i have to identify them and deactivate them when jailed. I understand that there is nothing you can do, i just wondered if that something to do with the doors or their lock level and if you could influence that. SpankDatAss cannot be made inactive but the spank i mentioned turns out to be the SL Survival Proximity Spank, which can be deactivated.

I also completely forgot that i wanted to remove all DD devices when i get cought. Really, it would be a bliss to at least have those automatically removed when put in a cell. :3

 

55 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

If The NPC's current AI package has that checkbox ticked, then yes.
but this is an issue with SpankDatAss or your other mods. I have no way to prevent that in my own mod.
Mods like the ones you mentioned which randomly start scenes are fairly problematic in General. And its the responsibility of their respective authors to make sure they don't break other mods.

 

PA has no Slavetat integration. So yes, thats normal. You only get the regular whipmarks from Zap

Alright. That would be a good addition which would also make sense here, but in the meantime i can also apply those manually. ^^

 

Thank you!

Edited April 7, 2025 by effrenatus

[kaizersoze27]

Works perfectly! Thanks. Just don't have DD devices on when you are getting arrested. And don't forget to re-run FNIS after installing this mod

[effrenatus]

Hello! It seems that when a mod does an animation, like animating picking a plower or the Remote Interactions mod, it breaks poses, like for example when hanged outside after imprisonment. Also, there was an PMC which pushed me away a bit after the pose was broken.  

I did not find a way to reestablish the pose and position i should have had.

 

Could you maybe please make something to block other animations, or build in either an automatic pose refreshing mechanism or at least an MCM option to reset to the pose? Sorry, yes i can imagine it's not that easy, but that would really be great.

[Jack005]

It is a nick-pick but can you make the dialogues after rape sex compatible with 

 Separate orgasm so you get the "useless garbage..." dialogue only if you dont do anything and only finish the act, I had torturer said that I did a good job after just passing throgh animations, and him telling me that Im wortless after like 4 positions everyone of them with him finishing and also taking in acount the inicial choose by sexlab him 

[eicosa]

I'm getting seemingly the opposite issue from some others in this thread. Even though the player has already left jail (without any Prison Alternative events occurring...?) I keep getting this message box from every single bed in the game. It says

"It doesn't seem like there's much going on right now. Do you want to sleep a few Days?".
If I click Yes, player immediately teleports back into Whiterun jail cell with a glitched Fade-in-from-black effect, stuck forever in 100% black, unable to use any normal inputs eg movement or opening the menu. The only way out of it is to kill Player to force a quickload.

Anyone know if this message comes from PA or from another mod?

[Pamatronic]

41 minutes ago, eicosa said:

I'm getting seemingly the opposite issue from some others in this thread. Even though the player has already left jail (without any Prison Alternative events occurring...?) I keep getting this message box from every single bed in the game. It says

"It doesn't seem like there's much going on right now. Do you want to sleep a few Days?".
If I click Yes, player immediately teleports back into Whiterun jail cell with a glitched Fade-in-from-black effect, stuck forever in 100% black, unable to use any normal inputs eg movement or opening the menu. The only way out of it is to kill Player to force a quickload.

Anyone know if this message comes from PA or from another mod?

 

It seems the quest hasn't terminated properly...
How did your prison sentence end? Did you escape or get released?

[eicosa]

2 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

It seems the quest hasn't terminated properly...
How did your prison sentence end? Did you escape or get released?

I pressed T to wait and (accidentally) pressed yes, which caused a complete time-skip instead of the normal Wait, and was immediately released from prison normally without any special Events.

[Pamatronic]

5 hours ago, eicosa said:

I pressed T to wait and (accidentally) pressed yes, which caused a complete time-skip instead of the normal Wait, and was immediately released from prison normally without any special Events.

time skipping usually shouldn't affect PA...
How did your release look like? were you teleported outside like in the vanilla game? or did the jaildoor simply open in front of you? any messages in the topleft corner?

[eicosa]

14 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

time skipping usually shouldn't affect PA...
How did your release look like? were you teleported outside like in the vanilla game? or did the jaildoor simply open in front of you? any messages in the topleft corner?

Was teleported outside, standing at the door to Whiterun's castle, Dragonreach. I dont remember noticing any unusual messages in top left.

Do you think its a conflict with Go To Bed? I've never had an issue before, but only just saw that it has a special keybind for 'Serve Time'.

[Pamatronic]

1 hour ago, eicosa said:

Was teleported outside, standing at the door to Whiterun's castle, Dragonreach. I dont remember noticing any unusual messages in top left.

Do you think its a conflict with Go To Bed? I've never had an issue before, but only just saw that it has a special keybind for 'Serve Time'.

That very much sounds like a conflict. PA is designed to run alongside the Vanilla prison quest. If that keybind terminates the vanilla quest while the PA system is still running, that will break stuff. So just dont use that keybind and you should be fine.

[eicosa]

6 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

That very much sounds like a conflict. PA is designed to run alongside the Vanilla prison quest. If that keybind terminates the vanilla quest while the PA system is still running, that will break stuff. So just dont use that keybind and you should be fine.

 

And thanks for your support and surprisingly rapid response   I expect most LL devs to respond once a month at best !

[twsnider1138]

On 5/17/2021 at 5:46 PM, Maddac said:

FYI, this mod can be used with DCL installed if the option in DCL to use vanilla prisons is selected, which disables the DCL prison completely.

 

I use this option as I also have fun with Troubles of Heroine mod which puts horny prisoners in the prisons to have sex with the PC, as well as a variety of deviant quests with NPC characters both vanilla and mod added. Troubles of Heroine doesn't require DD installed either.

Ok, that was my major question answered. I don’t like DCR’s prison anyway so I was hoping this might work without it. Thank you.

[Pamatronic]

On 5/14/2025 at 9:38 AM, eicosa said:

 

I expect most LL devs to respond once a month at best !

We usually do. You just got lucky this time.

[hunghung151]

For some reasons my character's neck became super long after the whipping scene. It automatically fixed itself after I trigger another sex scene. Just want to report this

[turrrrbro]

On 6/1/2025 at 9:09 AM, hunghung151 said:

For some reasons my character's neck became super long after the whipping scene. It automatically fixed itself after I trigger another sex scene. Just want to report this

Yeah, it happens consistently for me with Prison Alternative, but similar whipping scene from Public Whore is fine. Entering racemenu fixes it. I believe it also happened once with one of Defeat mods, but it was a while ago.