Prison Alternative - A modular Prison System

[jbezorg]

So...

 

What key is the "struggle bar" bound to? Searched for that phrase in this thread and didn't find it. "key bindings" wasn't found either. Read the description several times and, I swear, what key you need to press is not mentioned. I assumed it's the space bar, but I didn't see anything happen, so I really don't know if it's working.   

 

 

Edited June 7, 2025 by jbezorg

[Pamatronic]

2 hours ago, jbezorg said:

So...

 

What key is the "struggle bar" bound to? Searched for that phrase in this thread and didn't find it. "key bindings" wasn't found either. Read the description several times and, I swear, what key you need to press is not mentioned. I assumed it's the space bar, but I didn't see anything happen, so I really don't know if it's working.   

Struggle bar? In which context do you mean?

[brewmasterhal]

14 hours ago, jbezorg said:

What key is the "struggle bar" bound to? Searched for that phrase in this thread and didn't find it. "key bindings" wasn't found either. Read the description several times and, I swear, what key you need to press is not mentioned. I assumed it's the space bar, but I didn't see anything happen, so I really don't know if it's working.   

11 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

Struggle bar? In which context do you mean?

 

I think he's asking about how to struggle out of a device, e.g. mashing spacebar to break the rope and escape from the gallows.

[jbezorg]

14 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

Struggle bar? In which context do you mean?

 

3 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

 

I think he's asking about how to struggle out of a device, e.g. mashing spacebar to break the rope and escape from the gallows.

Yep. So, I guess it is the spacebar?

[poisonmoni]

Good evening

 

I'm having a curious problem. Punishments aren't working, and I've checked the menu in MCM and everything written in the post, thinking I'm probably missing a mod? I don't think so.

 

I started this new test game. I'm in prison. I go to sleep, and the guard comes to bother my character after I sleep. That seems to work fine.

However, when I try to escape, the message appears, then my character appears stuck in the cell unable to move, as if waiting for some trigger, but nothing happens. I set the camera to free, and all the guards are behaving normally.

 

I installed Orkish Bounty Hunter too, and the problem is very similar. Everything works fine, but when I try to escape and fail, the orc speaks, a final message appears, and then either the orcs leave without anything happening, or the scene of the orc speaking and the message keeps looping.

I can guess, with my untrained eye, that something is missing, because it's as if the game can't find the next stage.

 

thank you!

[Pamatronic]

On 6/7/2025 at 11:59 PM, jbezorg said:

Yep. So, I guess it is the spacebar?

E and Lshift should also work, but spacebar should be the most convenient

[Pamatronic]

On 6/8/2025 at 1:30 AM, poisonmoni said:

Good evening

 

I'm having a curious problem. Punishments aren't working, and I've checked the menu in MCM and everything written in the post, thinking I'm probably missing a mod? I don't think so.

 

I started this new test game. I'm in prison. I go to sleep, and the guard comes to bother my character after I sleep. That seems to work fine.

However, when I try to escape, the message appears, then my character appears stuck in the cell unable to move, as if waiting for some trigger, but nothing happens. I set the camera to free, and all the guards are behaving normally.

 

I installed Orkish Bounty Hunter too, and the problem is very similar. Everything works fine, but when I try to escape and fail, the orc speaks, a final message appears, and then either the orcs leave without anything happening, or the scene of the orc speaking and the message keeps looping.

I can guess, with my untrained eye, that something is missing, because it's as if the game can't find the next stage.

 

thank you!

some photos would be helpfull. what are the last messages from the npcs before stuff gets stuck?

[poisonmoni]

21 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

some photos would be helpfull. what are the last messages from the npcs before stuff gets stuck?

There was no message, the guards simply defeated me, returned me to the cell, and the normal message appeared stating that I was going to be punished. Then my character appeared standing in front of the cell, stuck, and absolutely nothing happened.

 

However, I managed to fix it. After so many tests and attempts, I tried replacing Zap8+ with Zap8, and from then on, it worked. The executioner appeared and took me to punishment.

[HungryTentacle]

After the vampire feast scene all my characters (even new ones) became permanently cooked (literally -- they were all red) except for the head and hands.

I reran FNIS and Bodyslide, cleared the registry, and started a new save, but none of that fixed it.

 

I eventually solved the issue by unloading the relevant mods, starting a new vanilla game with a new character, then reloading mods. That must have cleared the cooked textures for the player character or something. I don't know why it worked, but if anyone is experiencing the same issue, try that.

 

[RobAlson244]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked/answered but I didn't see it specifically when I searched but, is it possible to have those add-ons without the executions? Like the display of the prisoner stripped in public but no hangings?

[HungryTentacle]

18 hours ago, RobAlson244 said:

I'm sorry if this has already been asked/answered but I didn't see it specifically when I searched but, is it possible to have those add-ons without the executions? Like the display of the prisoner stripped in public but no hangings?

You should be able to configure that in the MCM. Just set the execution probabilities to 0%.

[RobAlson244]

6 hours ago, HungryTentacle said:

You should be able to configure that in the MCM. Just set the execution probabilities to 0%.

Thank you!

[FurDraco]

I don't know if it has been talked about yet, but I had some problems with the guards watching the Player in prison. They can steal a weapon belonging to the player from the chest, and if they stop you from escaping, the guard is either updated and has their inventory reseted, or the guard only gets deleted, in both way your weapon seems to be lost.

[Pamatronic]

2 hours ago, FurDraco said:

They can steal a weapon belonging to the player from the chest

No, they cant.
My mod doesn't touch the Guards behavior.

[Jack005]

On 6/2/2025 at 2:08 AM, turrrrbro said:

Yeah, it happens consistently for me with Prison Alternative, but similar whipping scene from Public Whore is fine. Entering racemenu fixes it. I believe it also happened once with one of Defeat mods, but it was a while ago.

This issue fixes entering a furniture be a chair or something, I always place a chair near in any jail cell that doesnt have one for this reason, I recomend this autor to place one in each cell so I dont have to

[Jack005]

On 7/11/2025 at 3:23 PM, Pamatronic said:

No, they cant.
My mod doesn't touch the Guards behavior.

Yes, they can, its a NPC game Ai behaviour, it happens when the npc doesnt have a weapon or either you have a stronger weapon or a staff in the confiscated inventory chest, I have seen this beahavior with the orchis bounty hunters (I try pickpocked the lider orc for the key, failed, and then they wake up, one of them went and grab one of my staffs electrocuted my ass and got captured) and with Raven beak prison (prisoner threatens you for your stuff or for a "good time" inside the prison not the mines and then he runs to the guards cell where supposly the door is a lock with a only key lock and get one of your weapons to kill you with it) its a vanilla behaviour 

Edited July 14, 2025 by Jack005
more explanations...

[Thingolf]

There appears to be a conflict with the mod "Skyrim chain beasts" during the solitude vampire cannibal feast, the door used to enter the feasting dungeon is blocked by a chain beast ball/module, which prevents the npc from opening the door and advancing the quest. Had to accept the fast travel option from the jail to get into the vampire feast room.

[benimaru0603]

sexlab scene failed and skipped in Whiterun before my character left to die.... i dont know why...my sexlab works in other scene and mods...plz help!

 

Do i need  to register ZAZ animations into SEXLAB?

Edited August 7, 2025 by benimaru0603

[1nterrupt]

On 4/4/2025 at 9:00 AM, Gudulba said:

I get exactly the same issue with bed replacers as mentioned in this post and previous ones (PA sleep message not popping up, only the vanilla sleep message).

 

I have done some testing. I am using these bed replacers: Ignoble Beds (5 mods including BOS), Rustic Repose (5 mods including BOS) and Rally's Noble Furniture.

 

1) Whiterun's Dragonsreach prison: everything is working fine. When teleported into the prison, this message appears: and also the correct PA sleeping message box appears. Interesting fact: the bed in this prison is not a "bed", but a cot and therefore not touched by bed replacers:

 

2) Riften prison: PA not working. When teleported into the prison, no PA message appears and only the vanilla sleeping message box appears. The bed in this prison is a "Common Bed" and therefore touched by bed replacers:

 

 

Is there any way to keep PA working with bed replacers?

 

 

There is a very simple workaround i used to bypass finding every single bed replacer etc.:

 

i opened console, clicked the bed and typed "disable". stood in the corner where the bed was and typed in console:" placeatme e2826 " and voila, you have a permanent and immersive trigger in your cell. its the civil war cot.

 

i did disable go to bed in mod organizer beforehand, bit that shouldnt affect it i think.

[Gudulba]

On 8/12/2025 at 2:24 AM, 1nterrupt said:

There is a very simple workaround i used to bypass finding every single bed replacer etc.:

 

i opened console, clicked the bed and typed "disable". stood in the corner where the bed was and typed in console:" placeatme e2826 " and voila, you have a permanent and immersive trigger in your cell. its the civil war cot.

 

i did disable go to bed in mod organizer beforehand, bit that shouldnt affect it i think.

In my case, it was an issue between PA and Rustic Repose - BOS Distributed. I was able to solve it by excluding prison locations by editing the "Rustic Repose - BOS Distributed_SWAP.ini" -> by adding -LocTypeJail to the Forms sections, for example like this:

 

[Forms|LocTypeCity,LocTypeTown,LocTypeInn,LocTypeHouse,LocTypeDwelling,LocTypePlayerHouse,LocTypeSettlement,LocTypeCastle,LocTypeHabitation,LocTypeHabitationHasInn,LocTypeFarm,-LocTypeJail]

 

[Pamatronic]

On 8/12/2025 at 2:24 AM, 1nterrupt said:

There is a very simple workaround i used to bypass finding every single bed replacer etc.:

 

i opened console, clicked the bed and typed "disable". stood in the corner where the bed was and typed in console:" placeatme e2826 " and voila, you have a permanent and immersive trigger in your cell. its the civil war cot.

Thats a good one. propably gonna pin that on the frontpage.

 

 

On 8/12/2025 at 2:24 AM, 1nterrupt said:

i did disable go to bed in mod organizer beforehand, bit that shouldnt affect it i think.

up to date versions of gotobed should indeed be safe

[Pamatronic]

On 7/9/2025 at 8:49 PM, HungryTentacle said:

After the vampire feast scene all my characters (even new ones) became permanently cooked (literally -- they were all red) except for the head and hands.

I reran FNIS and Bodyslide, cleared the registry, and started a new save, but none of that fixed it.

 

I eventually solved the issue by unloading the relevant mods, starting a new vanilla game with a new character, then reloading mods. That must have cleared the cooked textures for the player character or something. I don't know why it worked, but if anyone is experiencing the same issue, try that.

 

There is also a button in the Deadly Furnitures MCM which clears all skin overrides. Thats propably easier.
but usually, equipping and unequipping some body armor should also clear this, as long as you DONT save you game while being red, thereby baking this override into your save.

[Pamatronic]

On 7/14/2025 at 8:59 PM, Jack005 said:

Yes, they can, its a NPC game Ai behaviour, it happens when the npc doesnt have a weapon or either you have a stronger weapon or a staff in the confiscated inventory chest, I have seen this beahavior with the orchis bounty hunters (I try pickpocked the lider orc for the key, failed, and then they wake up, one of them went and grab one of my staffs electrocuted my ass and got captured) and with Raven beak prison (prisoner threatens you for your stuff or for a "good time" inside the prison not the mines and then he runs to the guards cell where supposly the door is a lock with a only key lock and get one of your weapons to kill you with it) its a vanilla behaviour 

are you absolutely sure that this is Vanilla game behaviour? Not some addition by a mod which alters ai or makes it smarter?

[Pamatronic]

On 8/7/2025 at 5:10 PM, benimaru0603 said:

sexlab scene failed and skipped in Whiterun before my character left to die.... i dont know why...my sexlab works in other scene and mods...plz help!

 

Do i need  to register ZAZ animations into SEXLAB?

I'm assuming you are talking about the left for dead event from the punishment pack.
This issue can occur if you dont have a suitable animation installed. Provided you didnt have a follower with you, the script will search for a threesome scene with the "agressive" and/or "bound" tag. 
Try installing Billy or Baka/Babo animation packs. they have something suitable

[benimaru0603]

On 8/20/2025 at 7:15 PM, Pamatronic said:

I'm assuming you are talking about the left for dead event from the punishment pack.
This issue can occur if you dont have a suitable animation installed. Provided you didnt have a follower with you, the script will search for a threesome scene with the "agressive" and/or "bound" tag. 
Try installing Billy or Baka/Babo animation packs. they have something suitable

Thank you very much