Prison Alternative - A modular Prison System

[MasterPiece300]

13 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

This could be a simple dirty edit in one of your mods. It wouldnt be obvious under most circumstances. you should be able to figure it out with TESVedit. Just load everything, look at PA story manager event node and you should see the culprit.

ok so I'm no modder myself so I'm not sure if this info is relevant. I loaded up the editor with all of the plugins active and looked at a section called "DB03JailNode" where i believe your mod edits? i see [00] skyrim.esm as active there and [11] PamaPrisonAlternative.esm no other plugin is active there.

[Pamatronic]

20 minutes ago, MasterPiece300 said:

ok so I'm no modder myself so I'm not sure if this info is relevant. I loaded up the editor with all of the plugins active and looked at a section called "DB03JailNode" where i believe your mod edits? i see [00] skyrim.esm as active there and [11] PamaPrisonAlternative.esm no other plugin is active there.

Hmm, k. it was worth a shot. Does Prison alternatives MCM show anything unusual? Version and stuff?

[MasterPiece300]

19 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

Hmm, k. it was worth a shot. Does Prison alternatives MCM show anything unusual? Version and stuff?

MCM shows no problems, all option appears functional. Within the extra tab it shows version 2.0.3. Other than that nothing unusual within the mcm itself.

[R4ThM0R3]

How can i make time to actually pass

I mean the mod says "several" days have passed  while sleeping but it only pass like 3 in-game minutes

[Yoen]

sorry im a little bit confused, do i need the extentions "solitude" "riften "windhelm" etc for the execution scenes or are they proof of concept stuff and are now included in the main mod

[Pamatronic]

On 3/6/2024 at 1:23 AM, MasterPiece300 said:

MCM shows no problems, all option appears functional. Within the extra tab it shows version 2.0.3. Other than that nothing unusual within the mcm itself.

Ok, I'm honestly out out Ideas then. Guess you have to try the old "Deactivating mods until it works" technique.

[Pamatronic]

On 3/9/2024 at 5:05 AM, R4ThM0R3 said:

How can i make time to actually pass

I mean the mod says "several" days have passed  while sleeping but it only pass like 3 in-game minutes

Time not passing is intentional. That was made to prevent players from starving who have needs mods installed.

[Pamatronic]

14 hours ago, Yoen said:

sorry im a little bit confused, do i need the extentions "solitude" "riften "windhelm" etc for the execution scenes or are they proof of concept stuff and are now included in the main mod

The Execution Scenes are still in their separate mods and will stay there.

[Feltol]

(FIXED) EDIT 2: The problem with the whipping scene was a broken automatic leash. The mod causing the issue was Skyrim Koozie Platform, so upon removing it everything described in the spoiler was fixed.
 

Spoiler

Hello, I have read through the entire thread and I didn't find my specific problem with the whipping scene mentioned yet. Everything seems to work fine, the whipping itself is fine, and then he puts away his crop and says he doesn't want to leave marks but will see me again. Then just nothing happens, he just stands there forever, he doesn't leave or anything.

 

What's supposed to happen? I figured if I knew what was supposed to happen I might be able to narrow down what mod is breaking things. I don't have a lot of sex mods actually installed.

I have prison alternative and its requirements, the bad end mods, ZAP 8+, Spank That Ass, Slave Tats, Skyrim Koozie Platform, Simple Prostitution, Licenses, Sexual Fame, Ravenous, PA Punishment Back, Interactive Beating, Gallows, Crux, and Bounty Hunters.

 

In terms of non-sex mods I have Better Dialogue Controls, Physics Mods, Hair Mods, Bodyslide, SKSE, FNIS, Fuz Ro Doh, SkyUI, a bunch of container add ons, etc. The basic kind of stuff. I don't have anything that I would assume would effect this kind of thing.

I did notice a lot of people talk about their characters having problems with autopathing. When he comes in and tells me to go to the poles, I have to manually walk over and use the poles. Is that normal or is that a sign something is broken with character control removal?

 

I also tried resetting the actor, he just walks back over to the place where he whipped me and continues to stand there.

 

EDIT: This was also in whiterun if that helps.

 

Edited March 17 by Feltol

[Nuascura]

@Pamatronic Hi there. Sorry if this is a premature message as I haven’t looked into your API yet. A couple Licenses users have asked about compatibility with your mod, so I’m interested in patching a small hole up for compatibility between our mods. Does Prison Alternative send an event when entering and exiting jail? That would be the best method for me to enable a Global value I’ve already set up for my own internal and Prison Overhaul Patched use.

[Pamatronic]

1 hour ago, Nuascura said:

Does Prison Alternative send an event when entering and exiting jail?

It does in fact.
SendModEvent("pamaPA_ImprisonementStart")
SendModEvent("pamaPA_ImprisonementEnd")

 

along some other events which might or might not be relevant:

SendModEvent("pamaPA_EscapeAttemtCuffed")
SendModEvent("pamaPA_EscapeAttemt")
SendModEvent("pamaPA_GotRidOfCuffsDuringEscape")
SendModEvent("pamaPA_SuccesfullEscape")
SendModEvent("pamaPA_PlayerReleased")
SendModEvent("pamaPA_Interrupt")

 

All of them use the default modevent which default parameters.

[Nuascura]

8 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

It does in fact.
SendModEvent("pamaPA_ImprisonementStart")
SendModEvent("pamaPA_ImprisonementEnd")

Is pamaPA_ImprisonmentEnd sent at the same time as your Escaped and Released events?

 

I need to end jail-duration immunity from Licenses’ violation checks at these two specific prison-end points. The type of “end” wouldn’t matter.

 

Edit: Also, can you confirm if these parameters are correct?

 

Event callbackName(string eventName, string strArg, float numArg, Form sender)

 

I’ve just been burned by the inconsistency of recent mod events I’ve dabbled with. The parameter wordings need to be strict and precise.

Edited March 21 by Nuascura

[Pamatronic]

44 minutes ago, Nuascura said:

Is pamaPA_ImprisonmentEnd sent at the same time as your Escaped and Released events?

yes. PA_ImprisonmentEnd is a catch all which fires regardless on HOW the player got out of jail.

 

45 minutes ago, Nuascura said:

Edit: Also, can you confirm if these parameters are correct?

 

Event callbackName(string eventName, string strArg, float numArg, Form sender)

Yup, that should do the trick.

[zamaksi1]

good

 

[Yoen]

any chance of your restrains when you get arrested being iron shackles instead of ropes?

[3LVN]

I got a dirty fix to disable dd cursed loot prison system.

Enable the vanilla prison option in dcl MCM. Then in xEdit delete the quest "dcur_prison_guardArrestDlg". When you get caught for doing crime it will be the vanilla dialogue and all the extra dcl outcome won't happened.

[Yoen]

29 minutes ago, 3LVN said:

I got a dirty fix to disable dd cursed loot prison system.

Enable the vanilla prison option in dcl MCM. Then in xEdit delete the quest "dcur_prison_guardArrestDlg". When you get caught for doing crime it will be the vanilla dialogue and all the extra dcl outcome won't happened.

it aint pretty but itll do

[xyzxyz]

This mod always fales to send me to prison. No matter how high the bounty is the "You're making a mistake" dialogue just repeats itself.

[Pamatronic]

4 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

This mod always fales to send me to prison. No matter how high the bounty is the "You're making a mistake" dialogue just repeats itself.

Thats caused by another mod. PA doesn't affect HOW you get into prison. It only kicks in when you get there,

[xyzxyz]

9 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

Thats caused by another mod. PA doesn't affect HOW you get into prison. It only kicks in when you get there,

I don't think I have any mods that affect the prison in this setup

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[Pamatronic]

9 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

I don't think I have any mods that affect the prison in this setup

You have something which affects/breaks the guards dialogue.
Also, congrats for Ignoring the (in)compatibility section of the Modpage.

[xyzxyz]

45 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

Also, congrats for Ignoring the (in)compatibility section of the Modpage.

Only the DD base mod and it says it shouldn't break things as long as nobody wears them in prison.

[xyzxyz]

How script heavy is this mod? After repeating dialogues, waiting a few hours etc. my char got tied up and later made the sex slave. She is still standing in the middle of the prison hall though.

[Gudulba]

10 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Only the DD base mod and it says it shouldn't break things as long as nobody wears them in prison.

As Pama already mentioned, Prison Alternative only kicks in once you have been sent to the prison. Either by the vanilla game process or by another mod. I have looked through your mod list, but could not identiy an obvious culprit.

 

One possible approach may be to find prison dialog related quests in SSEEdit and check whether they are overriding anything. But unfortunately I don't know what exactly to look for...

[Johan_at_lovers_lab]

What version is compatible with 1.5.97?