toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved SE & LE

[SkyTem]

I've noticed that even when you're in another room the Thuum of Strip affects your enemies, breaks stealth, and alerts them to your presence.  I was trying to get the damage armor ability to work from stealth without activating the initial strip from the level 3 Thuum of strip.  I have a proposal for a future version with it.  Would it be balanced if when you received the damage armor ability after completing the quest line, you also received a damage armor spell "or maybe a different separate Thuum of Damage Armor instead that gives that effect"?  When you cast the spell it would give you the damage armor buff and would last until the spell was cast again or dispelled.  However while you had the damage armor-spell/buff you would be unable to use any shouts or other thuums.  Also anytime you got rid of the damage armor-spell/buff you would receive a 60 second cool-down before you could once again use shouts and thuums.  I'm sorry to keep posting but I do like spitballing ideas.  Good to talk to you again.  Have a good rest of the weekend !  What does everyone else think?

Edited September 26, 2021 by SkyTem

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, SkyTem said:

I've noticed that even when you are in another room the Thuum of Strip affects your enemies.  I was trying to get the damage armor ability to work from stealth without activating the initial strip from the level 3 Thuum of strip.  I have a proposal for a future version with it.  Would it be balanced if when you received the damage armor ability after completing the quest line you also received a damage armor spell?  When you cast the spell it would give you the damage armor buff and would last until the spell was cast again or dispelled.  However while you had the damage armor-spell buff you would be unable to use any shouts or other Thuums.  Also anytime you got rid of the spell-damage armor buff you would receive a 60 second cooldown before you could once again use shouts and thuums.  I'm sorry to keep posting but I do like spitballing ideas.  Good to talk to you again.  Have a good rest of the weekend !  What does everyone else think?

 

I will keep your ideas in mind. I'd like to know what your goal is. You are describing a solution, but what problem/objective are we solving? Is it that you want to strip armor with a bow from stealth? Because if yes, then maybe we should be just making a whole different shout that strips armor with a bow, or forget the shout, its a set of cuffs that make your bow become a orgasm powered sex bow!

Edited September 26, 2021 by VirginMarie

[KGRam]

23 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

Yes.

 

 

What does "fresh game" mean? Toys, when used for the first time (first time you introduce into your load order) requires a new game like any esm. If you did not press the "new" button and start a true new game, almost anything can go wrong.

 

All troubleshooting is best done by starting with a new game, so that you rule out the save.

 

 

Installation test is a big clue here... It failed, thus you have a installation issue or corrupt save. Corrupt save would be from either not starting a new game, or breaking the golden rule SINCE starting the new game. For example when removing those few mods, you must start a new game.

1. Rule out the save with a new game.
2. Use both installation tests... the one in this mod, and the one in Toys. Use Troubleshooting #3 if the installation test fails
3. Look at mods that effect lighting, starting with ENB if there is lighting issue

 

 

Never seen it myself. Most likely cause I would think is enb install issues (if not just that the save is corrupt).

 

This mod does have a "light" coming from the halo or horns, which you can try turning off. Can turn off with the hot key, or by disabling the halo and/or horns.

 

 

If none of this helps you, best to attach your papyrus log for me to look at. Grab the log for a game session where you... load the save that has an issue... run both installation tests... exit to desktop... grab the log. "How to get your log" is FAQ #12

Thanks for the tips.  I started a new game after making changes, and installation tests for SLAVE and Toys ran fine.  If I ever get the static dark aura again I will try disabling the glowing head piece. Thanks again, it seems to be fine and stable for the moment.  Cool mod, thanks for all your hard work, and gracious support.

[SkyTem]

On 9/25/2021 at 8:21 PM, VirginMarie said:

 

I will keep your ideas in mind. I'd like to know what your goal is. You are describing a solution, but what problem/objective are we solving? Is it that you want to strip armor with a bow from stealth? Because if yes, then maybe we should be just making a whole different shout that strips armor with a bow, or forget the shout, its a set of cuffs that make your bow become a orgasm powered sex bow!

I play a Mage actually.  I was trying to hit enemies with spells and have them lose armor pieces each time I hit them .  I could use some of the other mods with strip effects but those require you to enchant and use a weapon "The Thuum of Strip is the main reason I like using this mod ".  I've been trying to hit things at range and/or from stealth but in it's current state I'm not able to do it without stealth breaking or in a manner that just uses the Damage Armor ability.  Actually you may be right about having a whole other shout that gives you the damage armor ability "Possible new quest line for one ?".  The main things I would want to use it for are bows and magic but melee weapons would be good with it too.  Thank you for asking and all your work on this mod "It's pretty cool ".  TTYL and have a good week,  Thank you for the quick reply "!

Edited September 27, 2021 by SkyTem

[VirginMarie]

8 hours ago, leesjig said:

One thing that is distracting is the timing, things are sped up 10 fold...is there anything I can do to slow things down.  ex:  when cassie runs up to you, and you choose to get your ass whooped like Nocturnal would like.  Well all those different contraptions you are hung from, then fall to the ground shaking, each of those contraption phases only last like 1 or 2 sec.  It all seems very rushed, and done under 15 secs and cassie run off.  If I can't slows things down, then thats fine I'll just keep going.  If there is a possible fix to slow things down then that would be great I would like to reload an old save to restart the virgin quest line.  Thanks for the help. 

 

I'd never design something so poorly Its not working as intended because you have in install issue.... see troubleshooting #10

 

Also, if you are seeing this, only for whipping, it could be a mod conflict, where a mod is changing the whip's behavior, such as some overhaul mods do. I don't know of any specific case of this but do know of overhaul mods that can break the furniture animation. The whip is seen as a weapon.

Edited September 27, 2021 by VirginMarie

[Back2friday]

I want that song in the video as my main menu song

[VirginMarie]

2 minutes ago, Back2friday said:

I want that song in the video as my main menu song

 

Video (I assume you mean the one on the main DL page) uses 3 music segments. The first and 3rd are the same song but by different artists. Which of the 3 do you like best?

[Back2friday]

3 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Video (I assume you mean the one on the main DL page) uses 3 music segments. The first and 3rd are the same song but by different artists. Which of the 3 do you like best?

 

The first one, where the lady sings the dragonborn song

[VirginMarie]

32 minutes ago, leesjig said:

I'm on day 28 from new start and already have a corrupt save, dang keeping a clean save is hard.  Thanks, for opening my eyes to this corrupt save thing.  That's what's going on #10...furniture changing rapidly.  I'll go through your check to see cause its interesting to see.  Nothing is poorly done, just operator error for me...?  Thanks

 

The sad thing about corrupt saves, is that it's the #1 cause of problems, yet there is no easy way for new players to learn about how to NOT make corrupt saves, or even be aware that they exist. Most people learn the hard way. Getting started guides rarely speak of it. Then the save cleaning tools muddy the waters further, because they don't fix it, only band-aid it. Then we have many myths spread about so called "clean save procedures" and early saves in a starter cell, which are false. You can't break the golden rule, period, there is nothing more to it.

 

The result is that mods can be under appreciated and thought to be buggy when they are not. So I try very hard to get the word out. Nothing worse than a user thinking your mod is broken, when its just a corrupt save.

 

And please don't think I'm giving you a bad time. I'm not at all, I'm just using the opportunity to get the word out and appreciate your candor about your experience with it. You've not even confirmed your issue is a corrupt save, but the test you are about to do will confirm one way or another.

Edited September 27, 2021 by VirginMarie

[TaCo1234567890]

I'm a bit confused with 'erotic asphyxation'. It says I have to read the etched tablet each time before worshiping the statue, but I read it and the statue says read the first etched tablet?

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, TaCo1234567890 said:

I'm a bit confused with 'erotic asphyxation'. It says I have to read the etched tablet each time before worshiping the statue, but I read it and the statue says read the first etched tablet?

 

I think you have a corrupt save.

 

I say this because I've looked at the conditions that the trigger uses just now and can't think of anything else to go wrong. Also nobody has reported this as a problem in the 4 years this feature has existed.

 

You get a corrupt save by breaking the golden rule. An example of breaking it would be not starting a new game, the first time you installed Toys. 

 

If you'd like further help, I could have a look at your papyrus log. How to get the log is in the FAQs if you need the steps. Attach a log for a game session where you've started the game, gone directly to trying to use that Dibella statue and the etched stone, then existed to desktop.

Edited September 29, 2021 by VirginMarie

[BDNelson]

Hi, I'm a noob to asking for help from an author so don't hate me for my questions. I have 389 mods in my Skyrim SE, most of them are LL mods including yours(FANTASTIC WORK) and I think I have a working install package. I have started a Play-thru, at lvl 4 tiny throat teaser attatched to my PC's face, can't talk to anyone(nice touch). I am now at lvl 11, can't find a tiny basic key so I can kill my first dragon at Whiterun. Now I know there are settings in MCM that I can tweek but I don't want to mess with the #'s you laid out for the game(lore addict?). I need to find a tiny basic key. QUESTION: Are they randomly generated, I have installed SL+, DD+, Toys, Toystory, S.L.A.V.E. as well as others. I noticed at lvl 9 when I was looting a body that the basic key(not tiny) just appeared in the inventory mid-loot. Is that how this tiny key will appear? Don't get me wrong I don't want to know an exact location, I want to find it myself. I just need to know I'm not trying to play out a broken load\install order. I can't read my papyrus log so that don't work, SexLab log is good to go with "get" after every entry and my skse_loader log has to much info to understand, that being said the game, RIGHT NOW, is working PERFCTLY(also have installed Laura's Bondage Shop, been there, no key). SO MUCH FUN!!!!

[VirginMarie]

31 minutes ago, BDNelson said:

I have started a Play-thru, at lvl 4 tiny throat teaser attatched to my PC's face, can't talk to anyone(nice touch).

You CAN talk after you successfully use sign language. I'm assuming you've seen that work, and are not reporting a problem where you actually can't talk at all.  

 

31 minutes ago, BDNelson said:

I need to find a tiny basic key. QUESTION: Are they randomly generated,

The Toys Framework alone won't give keys. It will however, cause them to be dropped by chance.

At this point, there's 2 Toys Content mods that will give keys.... ToyFul Temptations, and latest version of Bardal's Company. They can be found here... Toys Family of Mods. Bardal's does not make this easy. ToyFul puts keys in containers and corpses.

 

31 minutes ago, BDNelson said:

 

I have installed SL+, DD+, Toys, Toystory, S.L.A.V.E. as well as others. I noticed at lvl 9 when I was looting a body that the basic key(not tiny) just appeared in the inventory mid-loot. Is that how this tiny key will appear?

The Toyful Temptation mod does this, you must have it.

 

31 minutes ago, BDNelson said:

also have installed Laura's Bondage Shop, been there, no key). SO MUCH FUN!!!!

Well Laura's is for DD devices, not Toys toys. Thus if it DID give out keys, it would be DD keys, that have different names.

[VirginMarie]

Shout Like a Virgin Evolved V8.1b Has Released 

 

This is a minor maintenance release.  See Change Log.

[BDNelson]

I haven't been able to successfully use sign language yet, there has been dialog that bypasses the gag and I could start the 1st Dragon killing in Whiterun but when I try to talk to Lydia it won't let me, part of the flavor of the game, I like it. Yes, I have Toyful Temptations installed and working. As far as the tiny basic key goes it is a random drop and it could be anywhere in the game(this is OK), do I have that right? I took a chance that Laura's Shop would have the key, worth a shot. Also, can I conclude that my install\load order is good to go because these issues discussed are part of the game and not because of some problem with my install procedure. I did upgrade Toys Framework, Toys, Toy Story, Temptations and SLAVE 2 days ago, I can tell you the exact method I used if needed. This did not corrupt my saves like I expected.

[BDNelson]

I haven't been able to successfully use sign language yet, there has been dialog that bypasses the gag and I could start the 1st Dragon killing in Whiterun but when I try to talk to Lydia it won't let me, part of the flavor of the game, I like it. Yes, I have Toyful Temptations installed and working. As far as the tiny basic key goes it is a random drop and it could be anywhere in the game(this is OK), do I have that right? I took a chance that Laura's Shop would have the key, worth a shot. Also, can I conclude that my install\load order is good to go because these issues discussed are part of the game and not because of some problem with my install procedure. I did upgrade Toys Framework, Toys, Toy Story, Temptations and SLAVE 2 days ago, I can tell you the exact method I used if needed. This did not corrupt my saves like I expected.

[BDNelson]

Sorry for putting my post up twice, lame computer skills. I figured out sign language, THANK YOU SOOO MUCH, HUGE hurdle for me. I will try killing a few deer and see if I can find a tiny basic key and more enemies and chest's of course. I am also going to presume these guidelines also apply to the tiny exotic key as well(my PC has a gold bell in her butt). I just re-found it in the lower room of Alvor's house. I'm going to put it back on her. It came off when she popped her cork last time(GOD what fun that is). I could just make her pop again to get it off, BUT WHY would I do that on purpose. I going to have to keep an eye out when she pop's on the road so I don't lose it. GREAT MODS!!!!!

[VirginMarie]

39 minutes ago, BDNelson said:

I haven't been able to successfully use sign language yet, there has been dialog that bypasses the gag and I could start the 1st Dragon killing in Whiterun but when I try to talk to Lydia it won't let me, part of the flavor of the game, I like it.

 

Signing only occurs when the NPC does not initiate the dialogue. All you need to do to use it, is try to speak again, and pay attention to the notifications. It will say "Signing", if the NPC is not busy, then it will shortly after it will say "signing succeeded", now try to speak to them again and it will let you. If not successful (20% chance to fail by default), you just do it again.

 

39 minutes ago, BDNelson said:

Yes, I have Toyful Temptations installed and working. As far as the tiny basic key goes it is a random drop and it could be anywhere in the game(this is OK), do I have that right?

 

Set it to 100% chance (not the "base chance" but the specific one for keys) to see how it works if you want as a test. You will get keys in every container/corpse/dead bunny/dead chicken.

 

39 minutes ago, BDNelson said:

I took a chance that Laura's Shop would have the key, worth a shot. Also, can I conclude that my install\load order is good to go because these issues discussed are part of the game and not because of some problem with my install procedure. I did upgrade Toys Framework, Toys, Toy Story, Temptations and SLAVE 2 days ago, I can tell you the exact method I used if needed. This did not corrupt my saves like I expected.

 

Upgrade can't corrupt a save, so long as you just replace a mod. Only changing load order corrupts. Load order changes when you add mods with a plugin, if not at the end of the LO. LO also changes when you delete mods, not at the end of the LO. That's it. That's the Golden Rule.

 

If you changed your LO, your save is corrupt, period. There is no test for corrupt saves. You can't say "I did not corrupt my saves" as you can't know. You can only know if you changed LO. The change is the corruption. Problems come later, sometimes much later, and are the symptoms.

 

The only thing you've mentioned so far is not being able to sign, so try what I said. If that does not work, something is wrong. Everything else you have mentioned is working at intended, but lets face it, you've not seen 99% of the content you installed yet, so you have no idea if its all working.

 

"can I conclude that my install\load order is good to go" Neither of us has enough info. If you shared your papyrus log, it could be checked for symptoms, but even that is not a sure thing. Also no mod is bug free, nor is the vanilla game, you WILL have some problems at some point no matter what. Some mods are very buggy. You are probably at a point where its good enough, so just play, have fun, and hope for the best.

[BDNelson]

Yes, I just got out of the game and everything is working GREAT! As far as increasing the chance rate in MCM, I think I'll keep going as is so I can keep your #'s true to lore of the mod, I really like it the way it's playing out. My notifications text's at the top left corner of my screen disappear REALLY fast, I don't know how to change that so I'll keep a closer eye on that so I can see if I succeed or not in my singing. Thanx for everything so far, most of all these mods. I am willing to donate, which will be a first, but ONLY by phone w\card #. When I bought Skyrim SE via Steam(I know your not them), the hackers came OUT OF THE WOODWORK to try and hack my bank and my computer. I have Norton and other measures that prevented it, but it still happened. Just ask and I will give you my phone #. You deserve some of my money for these mods, you've earned it.

[VirginMarie]

8 minutes ago, BDNelson said:

Yes, I just got out of the game and everything is working GREAT! As far as increasing the chance rate in MCM, I think I'll keep going as is so I can keep your #'s true to lore of the mod, I really like it the way it's playing out. My notifications text's at the top left corner of my screen disappear REALLY fast, I don't know how to change that so I'll keep a closer eye on that so I can see if I succeed or not in my singing. Thanx for everything so far, most of all these mods. I am willing to donate, which will be a first, but ONLY by phone w\card #. When I bought Skyrim SE via Steam(I know your not them), the hackers came OUT OF THE WOODWORK to try and hack my bank and my computer. I have Norton and other measures that prevented it, but it still happened. Just ask and I will give you my phone #. You deserve some of my money for these mods, you've earned it.

 

Glad you are happy. I don't take donations. Some of the authors of mods you use might. I don't think any of the authors of the mods you mentioned though, do.

[maelstromxc]

How do I proceed the Tales & Tallows quest after meeting the first Virgin Ghost and having the Hideous Wrists equipped? I don't want to start the quest, then finish a bunch of others just to find it bugged out, meaning I'd have restart all the way back, so I want to finish it ASAP if possible.

Edited October 2, 2021 by maelstromxc

[VirginMarie]

33 minutes ago, maelstromxc said:

How do I proceed the Tales & Tallows quest after meeting the first Virgin Ghost and having the Hideous Wrists equipped? I don't want to start the quest, then finish a bunch of others just to find it bugged out, meaning I'd have restart all the way back, so I want to finish it ASAP if possible.

 

You will meet 2 more ghosts, and then it will be come more apparent. They will find you. They don't hang out in towns, so you will want to go out in the wilds. In other words, just play the game and let it happen. Do other quests.

 

What's this about bugging out? You trying to run on a corrupt save or something? hehe

Edited October 2, 2021 by VirginMarie

[maelstromxc]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 

You will meet 2 more ghosts, and then it will be come more apparent. They will find you. They don't hang out in towns, so you will want to go out in the wilds. In other words, just play the game and let it happen. Do other quests.

 

What's this about bugging out? You trying to run on a corrupt save or something? hehe

Thank you for the info. Having spent a few hours last week trying to troubleshoot the Toys MCM issue before it was fixed in 8.1b, I am just trying to avoid anything like that happening again in this new save. 

Edited October 2, 2021 by maelstromxc

[VirginMarie]

25 minutes ago, maelstromxc said:

Thank you for the info. Having spent a few hours last week trying to troubleshoot the Toys MCM issue before it was fixed in 8.1b, I am just trying to avoid anything like that happening again in this new save. 

 

• If the MCM Installation Tests in both SLaVE and Toys, run with success, you've covered most installation issues
• The MCM scenario is easy.... MCM can be seen = good, otherwise bad. Its black and white
• There's no test for corrupt save, because the symptoms can show up much later. But you can't have a corrupt save on a new game if you've not changed anything since

Edited October 2, 2021 by VirginMarie

[BDNelson]

Ok...hope I'm in the right place. I have toy story and s.l.a.v.e. installed, working Great. PC has taken the toy story quest to go to Winterhold(?) Magic College to talk to a guy about info on the toys that Nightly wants to know about. Also my PC has been to the Greybeards, used her shout and accepted the horn quest. Cassia has visited and delivered the note from Dibella(?). My PC has entered and enrolled in Magic learning at the College. She now want's to get the horn for the Greybeards. When she uses the Whirlwind shout Noccturna(?) grabs her. Fast-forward thru that, back in Skyrim. When she tries to go back to Nightly the phase stone has vanished, however the quest Nightly sent her on to the College is still open and active and in the journal, w\curious curios(?)highlighted in the description it reads "this quest not available yet". Here's my question(finally), is this supposed to happen(phase stone vanishing, no more Nightly with the quest still open or have I messed up my install. Has the Noccturna quest line overridden the toy story quest?