toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved SE & LE

[ugh223]

Yeah I meant Helgen Keep, sorry.

 

Anyways, the mod install status did reach Complete at a certain point, however running the installation test seems to do nothing; No pop up, no notification, no nothing, which makes me think it isn't working correctly.

 

When reaching the three standing stones outside Riverwood with Ralof, using them doesn't play any animations, and my character is put into seemingly permanent noclip.

[ugh223]

 

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

Here is my papyrus log for the SLaVE MCM, however I did not see a MCM for Toys specifically

Edited September 13, 2021 by ugh223
Adding an explanation

[VirginMarie]

13 hours ago, ugh223 said:

Papyrus.0.log 30.92 kB · 1 download

Here is my papyrus log for the SLaVE MCM, however I did not see a MCM for Toys specifically

 

Log shows this...

[04/16/2021 - 06:44:45PM] [*TOYS] Upgrading to v0.04

 

That's a VERY old version of Toys. But also the date is very old. This is not a recent log.

 

No MCM for Toys is yet another problem you have. Things are not installed correctly.

If I get the real log, I might be able to help.

Edited September 13, 2021 by VirginMarie

[ugh223]

Sent the wrong log there, my bad. This should be the correct one

Papyrus.0.log

[VirginMarie]

26 minutes ago, ugh223 said:

Sent the wrong log there, my bad. This should be the correct one

Papyrus.0.log 1.91 MB · 1 download

 

Log shows...

99 Warning errors

• Some of these errors are even from the vanilla game DLC
• Some warning errors can be harmless, but more than a dozen, unless you have a massive number of mods, indicates its likely a corrupt save.

 

Next there's a stack dump (meaning something very wrong). It starts with this line...
[09/13/2021 - 03:33:03AM] Suspended stack count is over our warning threshold, dumping stacks:

This is followed by 34000 lines of stack dump. This is making your log massive. Not often I've seen a 2Mb log

 

Due to the stack dump, almost nothing is initializing, including Toys. This is why Toys MCM is missing. And with no Toys, the SLaVE test can't run.

 

 

So either this is a corrupt save, and you need to start a new game, or something is very wrong with your installation. I can't tell which.

Edited September 14, 2021 by VirginMarie

[VirginMarie]

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@R0nin78 said over in the other thread....  Does anyone else have an issue with all the standings stones being broken by this mod? Every time I click one, It says "standing stone love" or something to that effect, then collisions are turned off and I run right through the ground. Tcl command won't fix it, and the game is unplayable at that point.

You've not successfully installed this mod.

The standing stones for this mod, play an animation scene, if you've installed things correctly.

 

Run the "Installation Tests"... the one in the SLaVE MCM, and the one in Toys MCM. If either fail you should expect that no animation scenes will work. Then you can follow their instructions, they tell you to use Troubleshooting #3.

 

I suspect you have missed at least a few steps in the installation steps, found on the Toys download page, and this mod's downlead page. The most common mistake is either not running FNIS, or not paying attention to errors that FNIS is reported, that must always be fixed.

[Ronin79]

It was my fault for not starting a completely new game, and using one of my prison saves, so I was able to get it working properly. Loved the mod, but there was one thing that drove me absolutely crazy... I was never able to make it out of nocturnal's sanctum, because there was no clear indication of what was required to leave. Maybe it's just a personal pet peeve of mine, but if you're going to slap a dozen devices on my character that can't be removed without following a quest, then it better be a very clear and easy to follow process. I was really starting to like this mod, because I hate DD and ZAP, and the toys framework is absolutely perfect, and the best thing to come to skyrim since sexlab. Then I got stuck there with no way to leave, and not even a freaking clue beyond the vague popup about the statue and the leap of faith. I'd gladly give it another try if that's improved somehow, but things like that irk the hell out of me and it's the one thing I couldn't stand with this mod. Otherwise, I give it a 10/10, because it's a brilliant idea and the content I saw was exceptionally well done. 

Edited September 14, 2021 by R0nin78

[VirginMarie]

3 minutes ago, R0nin78 said:

I got the mod to work, but I was never able to make it out of nocturnal's sanctum, because there was no clear indication of what was required to leave. Maybe it's just a personal pet peeve of mine, but if you're going to slap a dozen devices on my character that can't be removed without following a quest, then it better be a very clear and easy to follow process. I was really starting to like this mod, because I hate DD and ZAP, and the toys framework is absolutely perfect, and the best thing to come to skyrim since sexlab. Then I got stuck there with no way to leave, and not even a freaking clue beyond the vague popup about the statue and the leap of faith. I'd gladly give it another try if that's improved somehow, but things like that irk the hell out of me and it's the one thing I couldn't stand with this mod. Otherwise, I give it a 10/10, because it's a brilliant idea and the content I saw was exceptionally well done. 

 

FAQ #4

 

Its a vanilla dungeon by the way. I did not make it hard, Bethesda did.

 

Thanks for the mostly compliments.

[Ronin79]

5 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

FAQ #4

 

Its a vanilla dungeon by the way. I did not make it hard, Bethesda did.

 

Thanks for the mostly compliments.

 

The dungeon itself isn't bad. I've done the thieves guild quests a hundred times, so getting past the death field was never a problem, and neither were the ghosts.

Spoiler

I was running all over the place looking for a different statue, because I got the "Nice try, but it won't help you leave here." Message when I worshiped the first one again after getting the shout from the word wall. I assumed that's what was required when the popup mentioned submission being your friend. *Feels stupid* I honestly didn't think you'd make use of a certain part of that vanilla dungeon, but it seems you did, and you actually got it to work perfectly. 

 

[VirginMarie]

3 minutes ago, R0nin78 said:

 

The dungeon itself isn't bad. I've done the thieves guild quests a hundred times, so getting past the death field was never a problem, and neither were the ghosts.

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I was running all over the place looking for a different statue, because I got the "Nice try, but it won't help you leave here." Message when I worshiped the first one again after getting the shout from the word wall. I assumed that's what was required when the popup mentioned submission being your friend. *Feels stupid* I honestly didn't think you'd make use of a certain part of that vanilla dungeon, but it seems you did, and you actually got it to work perfectly. 

 

 

Good. So now you can continue!   You've only seen about 15% of the content, and there's no more puzzle dungeons at all.

[Ronin79]

11 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Good. So now you can continue!   You've only seen about 15% of the content, and there's no more puzzle dungeons at all.

 

Is my character going to get ravaged by every word wall she encounters after this? Not that I'm complaining, mind you... I'm just curious.

[mercplatypus]

51 minutes ago, R0nin78 said:

 

Is my character going to get ravaged by every word wall she encounters after this? Not that I'm complaining, mind you... I'm just curious.

Yes, with the only exception being the DLC word walls. SLaVE was originally built for LE and VM never wanted to force anyone to buy the DLC's so those alone were skipped.

[VirginMarie]

8 hours ago, R0nin78 said:

 

Is my character going to get ravaged by every word wall she encounters after this? Not that I'm complaining, mind you... I'm just curious.

 

*giggles innocently*

[VirginMarie]

Update: Changed the video to use a site that sucks less. No mod update.

[Kitty_Forest]

i do believe there is something wrong with the foot fetish thing on the LE version... i dont know how this happened but it happened

 

it looks like the skin for the body is pasted onto the head


also can i please have an option to disable the virgin ghosts entirely? no amount of chastity i am wearing prevents my loss of virginity so i either have to exit the dialogue or i have to pick pain in which they tell me they'll be back in half a day which is incredibly annoying

Edited September 16, 2021 by Kitty_Forest

[VirginMarie]

5 hours ago, Kitty_Forest said:

i do believe there is something wrong with the foot fetish thing on the LE version... i dont know how this happened but it happened

it looks like the skin for the body is pasted onto the head

 

Troubleshooting #9

 

5 hours ago, Kitty_Forest said:

also can i please have an option to disable the virgin ghosts entirely? no amount of chastity i am wearing prevents my loss of virginity so i either have to exit the dialogue

 

An option to do so would break the quest.

 

As discussed before, this is part of the main quest. If you don't let it progress, you can't play a great deal of the content in the mod. You need to pick one of the dialogue options. You have no other choice for this reason.

 

As an aside, there's nothing wrong with losing your virginity. If you never do, you also will miss out on some of the content of the mod. You will get your virginity back in a rebirth.

 

To get to the important point here... as we discussed before, it is not possible to lose your virginity in this scene if you wear a Toys chastity toy. Perhaps the problem is the chastity is from DD?

1. I'd like to understand how you are losing virginity with Toys chastity. For that I need more details. What toy are you wearing (tell me its name)?
2. Can you recreate the virginity loss if you go back to an earlier save? If yes please describe what you do, what dialogue option you take, and what you see, and the name of the toy.
3. What version of this mod are you using? It will tell you in the first tab of this mod

 

5 hours ago, Kitty_Forest said:

or i have to pick pain in which they tell me they'll be back in half a day which is incredibly annoying

 

They tell you they will be back in a half day for both dialogue options. Read the quest description carefully, it explains.

 

They tell you this ONLY if you are wearing a toy that they can't remove, because its a restrictive toy from another mod. You need to get rid of the toy or device. This could be a toy, from Toy Story (as an example). It could be a device from DD if you have DD.

Edited September 16, 2021 by VirginMarie

[Kitty_Forest]

4 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

An option to do so would break the quest.

 

As discussed before, this is part of the main quest. If you don't let it progress, you can't play a great deal of the content in the mod. You need to pick one of the dialogue options. You have no other choice for this reason.

 

As an aside, there's nothing wrong with losing your virginity. If you never do, you also will miss out on some of the content of the mod. You will get your virginity back in a rebirth.

 

To get to the important point here... as we discussed before, it is not possible to lose your virginity in this scene if you wear a Toys chastity toy. Perhaps the problem is the chastity is from DD?

1. I'd like to understand how you are losing virginity with Toys chastity. For that I need more details. What toy are you wearing (tell me its name)?
2. Can you recreate the virginity loss if you go back to an earlier save? If yes please describe what you do, what dialogue option you take, and what you see, and the name of the toy.
3. What version of this mod are you using? It will tell you in the first tab of this mod

 

 

They tell you they will be back in a half day for both dialogue options. Read the quest description carefully, it explains.

 

They tell you this ONLY if you are wearing a toy that they can't remove, because its a restrictive toy from another mod. You need to get rid of the toy or device. This could be a toy, from Toy Story (as an example). It could be a device from DD if you have DD.

its 100% the toys chastity stuff every time i select pleasure i lose virginity on the second animation

and i dont care about "oh you can just get your virginity back in a rebirth" i dont want to lose it in the first place i wanna do the virgin content first without losing it

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Kitty_Forest said:

its 100% the toys chastity stuff every time i select pleasure i lose virginity on the second animation

1. Name the toy
2. Tell me exactly what you see
3. If you CAN recreate it, please attach your papyrus log covering the time in game where you recreated it
   • FAQ #12 tells you how to get the log

 

If you can't do this, then lets drop the topic of virginity loss and get on with your real problem, which is below.

 

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they tell me they'll be back in half a day

Read what I said above about this. Get rid of the toy that is blocking the quest. This is your problem.

Edited September 16, 2021 by VirginMarie

[azax1470]

is there a way to setup the "pain" or "punishing" animation for the furnitures dont change every 3 or 5 sec in every scene ?
or is that a bug i have ?

Edited September 20, 2021 by azax1470

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, azax1470 said:

is there a way to setup the "pain" or "punishing" animation for the furnitures dont change every 3 or 5 sec in every scene ?
or is that a bug i have ?

 

Its normal for you to see one change, and rarely two (so you end up normally with 2 furniture used, or rarely 3).

 

I've heard of it changing rapidly before, but have never known the cause. It's essentially in the hands of the Skyrim engine to go right or wrong. Possibly its an install issue. Possibly you have a corrupt save due to breaking the Golden Rule. 

 

To check for the corrupt save possibility (this can be done in 5mins):

1. Just as a test, start a new game (really a new one, with the new button)
2. Use the MCM Misc Tab, Skip Initial Story. Now you have the Love Shout and can get Nocturnal to show up
3. You could also set the MCM settings on the Encounters tab to only do Pain is Pleasure, and increase the chance to 100

If the problem is now no longer re-created, you know its a corrupt save. If DOES recreate, you know its not the save, and must be an install issue. Note that if you find you have a corrupt save, you should expect many other problems to eventually reveal themselves. 

Edited September 20, 2021 by VirginMarie

[azax1470]

18 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Its normal for you to see one change, and rarely two (so you end up normally with 2 furniture used, or rarely 3).

 

I've heard of it changing rapidly before, but have never known the cause. It's essentially in the hands of the Skyrim engine to go right or wrong. Possibly its an install issue. Possibly you have a corrupt save due to breaking the Golden Rule. 

 

To check for the corrupt save possibility (this can be done in 5mins):

1. Just as a test, start a new game (really a new one, with the new button)
2. Use the MCM Misc Tab, Skip Initial Story. Now you have the Love Shout and can get Nocturnal to show up
3. You could also set the MCM settings on the Encounters tab to only do Pain is Pleasure, and increase the chance to 100

If the problem is now no longer re-created, you know its a corrupt save. If DOES recreate, you know its not the save, and must be an install issue. Note that if you find you have a corrupt save, you should expect many other problems to eventually reveal themselves. 

Thx for the answer
My save is indeed corrupt. But when i start a new game and want to load it, the save is also corrupt even if i did nothing on it. Btw Nocturnal shows up but dont forcegreet PC.
It didnt impact the gamplay anyway so i will keep going like this but i was asking it for my own information. Thx again for your reactivity and your great work on this mod !!

[VirginMarie]

22 minutes ago, azax1470 said:

My save is indeed corrupt. But when i start a new game and want to load it, the save is also corrupt even if i did nothing on it.

Not possible. A new game, if truly a new game, cannot be corrupt until you break the golden rule linked above. If you have problems in a new game, these are installation problems, or true bugs in a mod, or even the vanilla game, or could be you expecting something that is the wrong expectation.

 

22 minutes ago, azax1470 said:

Btw Nocturnal shows up but dont forcegreet PC.

First, don't assume she should always force greet. But in situations where she should (you've not named the situation), or other NPCs  in this mod that should, this is caused by your corrupt save. Your reported symptoms so far are skyrim engine features going wrong, thus is significant corruption. This will be game breaking, eventually leading to quests that can't progress.

 

22 minutes ago, azax1470 said:

It didnt impact the gamplay anyway 

But it WILL impact game play. Many thing are going to be broken. No force greet = quests can't work. Proceeding with a corrupt save is a very bad idea.

[azax1470]

8 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

Not possible. A new game, if truly a new game, cannot be corrupt until you break the golden rule linked above. If you have problems in a new game, these are installation problems, or true bugs in a mod, or even the vanilla game, or could be you expecting something that is the wrong expectation.

 

First, don't assume she should always force greet. But in situations where she should (you've not named the situation), or other NPCs  in this mod that should, this is caused by your corrupt save. Your reported symptoms so far are skyrim engine features going wrong, thus is significant corruption. This will be game breaking, eventually leading to quests that can't progress.

 

But it WILL impact game play. Many thing are going to be broken. No force greet = quests can't work. Proceeding with a corrupt save is a very bad idea.

I mean i will continue my main save with the furniture swap bug (25h gamplay so fare with only this bug 400+mods installed ) all quests are working well, lets see what happen !

[SkyTem]

Iv'e been playing through Skyrim again and I've finished the Thuum of Strip quest line.  I like the damage armor effect but it would be cooler if after you completed the quest line you received damage armor as a passive buff "or had the option through the MCM menu to have it as that ".  It only lasts 7 or 8 seconds from what i can see so usually you just end up stripping the enemies with the initial use of the Thuum of Strip and don't get the benefit of damage armor.  A passive buff would be better for hitting things from stealth or far away imo.  The only other thing I had to add was I've noticed that the scenes with the Dragonborn on the spit and her whipping the maidens always ends up with the animation freezing up for me.  I don't know if the trouble is on my end or in the mod itself.  Anyway, thank you as always for reading these posts and if you have any free time to look into anything it would be really appreciated.  Thank you for these cool mods and take care.

Edited September 23, 2021 by SkyTem

[VirginMarie]

48 minutes ago, SkyTem said:

Iv'e been playing through Skyrim again and I've finished the Thuum of Strip quest line.  I like the damage armor effect but it would be cooler if after you completed the quest line you received damage armor as a passive buff "or had the option through the MCM menu to have it as that ".  It only lasts 7 or 8 seconds from what i can see so usually you just end up stripping the enemies with the initial use of the Thuum of Strip and don't get the benefit of damage armor.  A passive buff would be better for hitting things from stealth or far away imo.

 

There's two abilities you learn, the first after just a few word walls are loved, the 2nd after learning all 3 words for the Strip Shout:

• Orgasm Damage Armor Ability - The next occurrence of inflicting damage following an orgasm, will damage armor, stripping it from your victim
• Strip Damage Armor Ability - Inflicting damage for a random period of time (the period while you see a aura from the shout on the NPC), following use of Thu'um of Strip, will damage armor, stripping it from your victim, one piece at a time.

A Dibella Lily tattoo will appear on your butt when either of theses abilities is active (unless butt tats are turned off in MCM).

 

I think a perma version of Strip Damage Armor Ability would make it too OP, plus take away from the idea that its got anything to do with the Strip Shout. You need to use the shout!   But I will look into making that period of time that it's active, last longer.... or maybe make you do more "work" to earn that

 

48 minutes ago, SkyTem said:

The only other thing I had to add was I've noticed that the scenes with the Dragonborn on the spit and her whipping the maidens always ends up with the animation freezing up for me.  I don't know if the trouble is on my end or in the mod itself.  Anyway, thank you as always for reading these posts and if you have any free time to look into anything it would be really appreciated.  Thank you for these cool mods and take care.

 

The trouble is on your end. Try walking through each step in Troubleshooting #3.

That sounds like a animations problem in general as the two scenes you named have nothing in common other than using animations. I think you will eventually see more animation problems in other scenes too.