toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved SE & LE

[VirginMarie]

37 minutes ago, La furie du Dragon said:

When I click on "Update FNIS Behavior", I get this, is it good ?

 

Says no animations were found. Show stopper.

 

That screenshot shows you are using SE version of Skyrim. If not using SE, your problem is the wrong version of FNIS, otherwise read on.

 

I can't even begin to imagine how you could have this mod working, yet there's no animations installed. Many things are not installed correctly. Perhaps you are having troubles with your mod manager.

 

The location that FNIS looks for animations is empty. Not possible if mods were installed normally. This is not just a problem for SLaVE, but also Toys, and any other mod you have that uses animations, such as Sexlab. You've got some work to do to get things right. Might be best to reinstall everything from scratch. If this is your first time using mods from LoversLab, I'd suggest you step into it. Get just Sexlab working first, in game. Then get Toys working, testing it in game. Use Toys MCM Installation Test. Start a new game each time you add another mod, unless you understand enough to know you have not broken the golden rule.

Edited September 1, 2021 by VirginMarie

[m0rdr3d0]

Is there a way to pause this mod's questline without constantly being reminded that "Busy Mode is on"? I am not sure I am ready to do daedric quests with MLU+Survival+Legendary and being unable to use shouts (as it summons Nocturnal and starts the questline) is very limiting. I thought at first that Busy Mode would accomplish that but it seems that the purpose of Busy Mode is completely different - every five seconds or so it reminds me that it is on, which probably means that it shouldn't be used on indefinite basis.

[VirginMarie]

11 minutes ago, m0rdr3d0 said:

Is there a way to pause this mod's questline without constantly being reminded that "Busy Mode is on"? I am not sure I am ready to do daedric quests with MLU+Survival+Legendary and being unable to use shouts (as it summons Nocturnal and starts the questline) is very limiting. I thought at first that Busy Mode would accomplish that but it seems that the purpose of Busy Mode is completely different - every five seconds or so it reminds me that it is on, which probably means that it shouldn't be used on indefinite basis.

 

Busy Mode - good for long scenes from another mod, like say prison... MCM tool tip...

"[ON] Most events are placed on hold. Includes collar effects, NPC greetings, report in enforcement, Nocturnal binding your wrists, and more. Activations will appear as busy. Useful during long scenes from other mods."

 

Put Story Start On Hold - this is what you want.... MCM tool tip...

"[OFF] Story starts, triggered by your first shout.\n[ON] Story start is placed on hold, preventing most encounters. Has no effect if set after your first shout."

Catch is, you have to turn it on before your first shout

[m0rdr3d0]

Is there a way to reset the state to zero shouts? I know that you wrote on multiple occasions in this forum thread that setting stages is not a good way to approach this mod, but I haven't progressed since my first shout yet: a messenger warned me about Nocturnal, but I didn't met her yet (avoiding as much as I can). So, is there a console command that would allow me to pretend that I haven't met the messenger?

[VirginMarie]

34 minutes ago, m0rdr3d0 said:

Is there a way to reset the state to zero shouts? I know that you wrote on multiple occasions in this forum thread that setting stages is not a good way to approach this mod, but I haven't progressed since my first shout yet: a messenger warned me about Nocturnal, but I didn't met her yet (avoiding as much as I can). So, is there a console command that would allow me to pretend that I haven't met the messenger?

 

Well actually nothing starts till you get the messenger (Cassia) and read her letter. So you could get the letter from Cassia, then just don't read it till you are ready to proceed with the main quest. This is just as good as having put the story on hold.

 

EDIT: but hmm sounds like you read the letter. Its another shout that will cause you to meet Nocturnal. So if you did read her letter, all it takes now is one shout and you are screwed.

 

No there is no consoling out of this.

Edited September 2, 2021 by VirginMarie

[Komay]

So, I got a new log for the troubleshooting section. For some reason the Virgin Dagger Harness causes the body to disappear.

Anyone got any idea as to why? It's Skyrim LE.

[VirginMarie]

20 minutes ago, Komay said:

So, I got a new log for the troubleshooting section. For some reason the Virgin Dagger Harness causes the body to disappear.

Anyone got any idea as to why? It's Skyrim LE.

 

Something else is causing it.

 

Remove everything else. What happens if only the Virgin Dagger Harness is equipped?

If using DD, turn the device hider off (top option on first device hider tab). This might help solve the problem.

 

If this does not help, next question is... does the problem occur for just that one harness? How about other harnesses? Knowing the details could help figure out what's wrong in your installation. Maybe you are using a non-standard, non-supported body? Maybe wrong or outdated skeleton? Maybe you have built incorrectly with bodyslide, such as not building your body with the same preset you used to build the things you are wearing?

Edited September 2, 2021 by VirginMarie

[Komay]

The body I am using is Cosio, I ran bodyslide with batch build and body morphs on it. I've FNIS, and Bodyslide correctly

 

I'm currently rerunning bodyslide and FNIS.

I don't really remember if I did the device hider thing, I'll have to check it when I'm done running FNIS

Got any suggestion on what harness to use

And the picture only has the virgin harness equipped, nothing else

So, the device hider isn't really the problem, and it is happening to other harnesses too.

I guess it probably have something to do with Cosio and Bodyslide

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by Komay

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Komay said:

The body I am using is Cosio, I ran bodyslide with batch build and body morphs on it. I've FNIS, and Bodyslide correctly

Batch build does not ensure you built your body with the same preset as you are using to build the toys and armor.

 

You might be able to get Cosio to work better, if this is not being done, but you should not expect Cosio to work well. I have no idea what it will do and not do.

 

1 hour ago, Komay said:

 

I'm currently rerunning bodyslide and FNIS.

FNIS/animations cannot be related.

 

1 hour ago, Komay said:

 

it is happening to other harnesses too.

So its not a specific toy problem, or a Toys/SLaVE problem.

 

1 hour ago, Komay said:

I guess it probably have something to do with Cosio and Bodyslide

Need to use a supported body.

Edited September 2, 2021 by VirginMarie

[La furie du Dragon]

On 9/1/2021 at 7:34 PM, VirginMarie said:

 

Says no animations were found. Show stopper.

 

That screenshot shows you are using SE version of Skyrim. If not using SE, your problem is the wrong version of FNIS, otherwise read on.

 

I can't even begin to imagine how you could have this mod working, yet there's no animations installed. Many things are not installed correctly. Perhaps you are having troubles with your mod manager.

 

The location that FNIS looks for animations is empty. Not possible if mods were installed normally. This is not just a problem for SLaVE, but also Toys, and any other mod you have that uses animations, such as Sexlab. You've got some work to do to get things right. Might be best to reinstall everything from scratch. If this is your first time using mods from LoversLab, I'd suggest you step into it. Get just Sexlab working first, in game. Then get Toys working, testing it in game. Use Toys MCM Installation Test. Start a new game each time you add another mod, unless you understand enough to know you have not broken the golden rule.

I finally understood how to use FNIS correctly ?, I did the bodyslide thing well, but I still have a problem : the mod keeps telling me that I installed a wrong version of toy, and this from the start of the game, so I was wondering if I really installed the good version of toys, I downloaded Toys Framework SE V1.2.7z, is it another file or did I really downloaded the wrong version ?

[m0rdr3d0]

15 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Well actually nothing starts till you get the messenger (Cassia) and read her letter. So you could get the letter from Cassia, then just don't read it till you are ready to proceed with the main quest. This is just as good as having put the story on hold.

 

EDIT: but hmm sounds like you read the letter. Its another shout that will cause you to meet Nocturnal. So if you did read her letter, all it takes now is one shout and you are screwed.

 

No there is no consoling out of this.

Is there a way to disable this mod completely then? It seems I underestimated complexity and challenge it introduces and I need to try it in another playthrough dedicated to only this mod. I tried using "Skip initial portion of Story" while having enabled "Put Tales and Tallows Start On Hold", but it seems that initial part of the story just puts me into Nocturnal's servitude - I need to report in every 7 days no matter what. It's too much for me to handle right now and I want to find a way for Nocturnal to simply forget about my existence. Is there something I can do without destroying my save?

[VirginMarie]

25 minutes ago, La furie du Dragon said:

 the mod keeps telling me that I installed a wrong version of toy, and this from the start of the game, so I was wondering if I really installed the good version of toys, I downloaded Toys Framework SE V1.2.7z, is it another file or did I really downloaded the wrong version ?

 

That's the right version. Its not been installed correctly though. If SLaVE does not see the correct version, this means it DOES see a version of Toys, but the version is old, or something else is very seriously wrong. I mean your FNIS was not seeing anything, and you've not said what you did to fix that. 

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, m0rdr3d0 said:

Is there a way to disable this mod completely then?

No.

 

1 hour ago, m0rdr3d0 said:

I tried using "Skip initial portion of Story" while having enabled "Put Tales and Tallows Start On Hold", but it seems that initial part of the story just puts me into Nocturnal's servitude - I need to report in every 7 days no matter what.

Not a good idea to use that feature, if you have not played the mod before. This is because you need to learn what it does, and you've skipped that. The MCM tool tip warns of this.

 

You can change the number of days to report in, to be MUCH longer, in the MCM. You can disable many many things. You can slow the encounters down. But doing any of those changes, also is not a great idea, until you've done your first play through, to understand what they mean.

 

1 hour ago, m0rdr3d0 said:

It's too much for me to handle right now and I want to find a way for Nocturnal to simply forget about my existence. Is there something I can do without destroying my save?

Uninstall the mod. Start a new game.

or

Start a new game. Put the story on hold before you go too far.

Edited September 2, 2021 by VirginMarie

[La furie du Dragon]

54 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

That's the right version. Its not been installed correctly though. If SLaVE does not see the correct version, this means it DOES see a version of Toys, but the version is old, or something else is very seriously wrong. I mean your FNIS was not seeing anything, and you've not said what you did to fix that. 

I put fnis in the right folder, and I run it from MO2

[Komay]

On 9/3/2021 at 1:22 AM, VirginMarie said:

Batch build does not ensure you built your body with the same preset as you are using to build the toys and armor.

 

You might be able to get Cosio to work better, if this is not being done, but you should not expect Cosio to work well. I have no idea what it will do and not do.

 

FNIS/animations cannot be related.

 

So its not a specific toy problem, or a Toys/SLaVE problem.

 

Need to use a supported body.

 

After extensive testing. I've found out that this mod that I am using https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/98798 Modular Clothing System is the main troublemaker

Apparently, it doesn't play nice with DD or anything that add things to the chest area? It straight up make the body invisible.

[VirginMarie]

7 minutes ago, Komay said:

 

After extensive testing. I've found out that this mod that I am using https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/98798 Modular Clothing System is the main troublemaker

Apparently, it doesn't play nice with DD or anything that add things to the chest area? It straight up make the body invisible.

 

I'd add it to the known Conflicts section, but first, need to know if the mod has the problem, if using the supported bodies. So I'm wondering if your test was only with Cosio?

[Komay]

9 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

I'd add it to the known Conflicts section, but first, need to know if the mod has the problem, if using the supported bodies. So I'm wondering if your test was only with Cosio?

Yeah, I only use Cosio, but I think the problem will occur with any other bodies anyway since the conflicting mod alters the way armors are equipped.

 

I just checked the nexus, it says that any armor that uses slot53 and armor slot58 will conflict with Devious Devices - Equip specifically. Not sure what that means but I guess it is related somehow?

Edited September 3, 2021 by Komay

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Komay said:

Yeah, I only use Cosio, but I think the problem will occur with any other bodies anyway since the conflicting mod alters the way armors are equipped.

 

I just checked the nexus, it says that any armor that uses slot53 and armor slot58 will conflict with Devious Devices - Equip specifically. Not sure what that means but I guess it is related somehow?

slot 53 is legs (ankle cuffs), 58 is torso (harness). I'm going to name it in the Toys Conflicts section

[darthnoldor]

Hi VirginMaria,

 

This mod is wonderful, thanks!!

 

?

 

I haved make a new game, then upgraded the mod from version 0,# to 0,7 tp 0,8 and more just at last version, folloew all rules and the golden (!), all perfect, the gane anhe this mod always run correctly !! yeahhhh

[VirginMarie]

6 hours ago, darthnoldor said:

Hi VirginMaria,

 

This mod is wonderful, thanks!!

 

?

 

I haved make a new game, then upgraded the mod from version 0,# to 0,7 tp 0,8 and more just at last version, folloew all rules and the golden (!), all perfect, the gane anhe this mod always run correctly !! yeahhhh

 

So you are saying the mod is sweet and innocent, just like me?

[VirginMarie]

Shout Like a Virgin Evolved V8.1 Has Released 

 

This is our official EXIT FROM BETA release.

 

What's New 

• Foot Fetish
• Branding
• Halloween are all back
• MCM Settings Presets

plus much more, see Change Log.

 

New Video

 

I want to highlight the new MCM Settings Presets... Using the Casual preset makes it easy for users who want a much less "busy" experience, to get that without finding all the relevant settings. Toys also has a Casual Preset which you'd most likely want to use in conjunction.

Edited September 14, 2021 by VirginMarie

[Bushi Neko]

Congrats!! 
I remember when this was just a start of an epic mod back it the day...  
I not to long ago moved to SE and was glad to find this lived there.  
Toys is one of the greatest adds ' evah! ' also.  ?

Edited September 12, 2021 by Bushi Neko

[VirginMarie]

5 hours ago, Bushi Neko said:

Congrats!! 
I remember when this was just a start of an epic mod back it the day...  
I not to long ago moved to SE and was glad to find this lived there.  
Toys is one of the greatest adds ' evah! ' also.  ?

 

Thanks. This mod had it's 5 year anniversary in May! Did you once try the first release? It had only the first Cassia and Nocturnal meeting scenes, and I thought I was 30% done. I was going to give you the Love Shout to follow and done. Turns out it was not even 1% done, and that I'm crazy.

 

Taking this out of beta was a huge milestone because to get here, had to make Toys, use Toys, sort out all the SE issues, and then polish it.

Edited September 12, 2021 by VirginMarie

[killashandra64]

Hi: I've been using these mods for a couple of months now. They add new life to Skyrim. They make it much more difficult, entertaining and frustratingly fun  depending on the mods and settings you choose.

I do have 1 issue though. Lost a foot today and Hircine was kind enough to replace it/them but now the my character is orange tinted is it supposed to be?

 

[VirginMarie]

20 minutes ago, killashandra64 said:

Hi: I've been using these mods for a couple of months now. They add new life to Skyrim. They make it much more difficult, entertaining and frustratingly fun  depending on the mods and settings you choose.

I do have 1 issue though. Lost a foot today and Hircine was kind enough to replace it/them but now the my character is orange tinted is it supposed to be?

 

 

Yes you get a deer skin texture. Should be looking like at 7:50 in the new video. You can turn it off in MCM, Events tab.

Edited September 12, 2021 by VirginMarie