toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved SE & LE

[gregaaz]

37 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Sounds likely that you have either an installation problem, or a corrupt save.

1. When you first installed Toys, did you start a new game? (its a requirement)
2. Have you broken the golden rule since starting that new game? 
3. Have you run the installation test in the Toys MCM setup tab? Does it fail?
4. Have you run the installation test in the SLaVE MCM first tab? Does it fail?

Its a very unusual problem, I've not had anyone with this problem recently, if ever. This is why we must first rule out the above.

 

If this does not help you, for me to help further, could I please see your papyrus log? There's a "how to get a papyrus log" in the FAQs if you need it, at the same link above. For the log, we want a game session where you... startup the game.... load the save... try to use the word wall... confirm it fails still... then exit to desktop, grab that log.

 

I got this problem when I was testing one of my setups a month or so ago. It was an installation problem. I'd upgraded SLaVE to the latest build but somehow left Toys on a previous one. 

Edited November 7, 2021 by gregaaz

[gurdilhfkk]

8 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Sounds likely that you have either an installation problem, or a corrupt save.

1. When you first installed Toys, did you start a new game? (its a requirement)
2. Have you broken the golden rule since starting that new game? 
3. Have you run the installation test in the Toys MCM setup tab? Does it fail?
4. Have you run the installation test in the SLaVE MCM first tab? Does it fail?

Its a very unusual problem, I've not had anyone with this problem recently, if ever. This is why we must first rule out the above.

 

If this does not help you, for me to help further, could I please see your papyrus log? There's a "how to get a papyrus log" in the FAQs if you need it, at the same link above. For the log, we want a game session where you... startup the game.... load the save... try to use the word wall... confirm it fails still... then exit to desktop, grab that log.

 

1. no

2. yes

3. it does nothing

4. it does nothing

 

So well i will try with a new game first ?

[BDNelson]

I have Devious Devices 5.1 and the voices pack as well, no problems there. I also have Devious Devices - Expansion 4.3a downloaded but not installed. I did try to install it over 5.1. Vortex put it before 5.1 and when FNIS finished it was tagged as redundant, by Vortex.

 

Should I even be installing this or am I doing it wrong?(4.3 vs. 5.1). I tried setting the rule to after but it(Vortex) wanted to override 904 different files. I thought that was WAY too many and reversed it back to 5.1 and the voice pack.

 

What do you think?

[BDNelson]

I'm sorry, disregard that last question. I answered it(I am an idiot!).

[VirginMarie]

26 minutes ago, BDNelson said:

I have Devious Devices 5.1 and the voices pack as well, no problems there. I also have Devious Devices - Expansion 4.3a downloaded but not installed. I did try to install it over 5.1. Vortex put it before 5.1 and when FNIS finished it was tagged as redundant, by Vortex.

 

Should I even be installing this or am I doing it wrong?(4.3 vs. 5.1). I tried setting the rule to after but it(Vortex) wanted to override 904 different files. I thought that was WAY too many and reversed it back to 5.1 and the voice pack.

 

What do you think?

 

You are posting in the wrong support thread. This is the support thread for SLaVE. SLaVE uses Toys, not DD. 

 

Now that said, you would NEVER use 2 versions of any mod at the same time.

 

Also once you sort that out, don't use any save that used the mod(s) you removed. Any save made with dual DDs is now a dead and dangerous save. Probably time to start a new game.

[VirginMarie]

20 hours ago, gurdilhfkk said:

 

1. no

2. yes

3. it does nothing

4. it does nothing

 

So well i will try with a new game first ?

 

How did that go?

[r'Satti]

HI. This may have been covered in previous posts, but I'm reluctant to read 31 pages to find it, if it has.

 

I've got the latest 8.1b version and Toys 1.4, everything is setup properly to best of my knowledge, FNIS XXL generated with 0 consistence issues, 71% CTD ratio, both Virgin and Toys gets processed, all animations registered through SLAL in-game, and SLaVE passes the animation testing through MCM... SKSE 2.0.20, SE v1.5.97

On new game, after I've set all options in menus that takes like an hour to complete lol, I spawn using AltStart with camping in the woods option...

Every time so far, 3 attempts actually, I've gone to the standing stones, thief stone, and stone love anim starts... it also locks up several times, can't access console or menu... no messages in console afterward, and after 3 or so 5-10 second freezes, evenly spaced, animation completes and game resumes like nothing abnormal happened. So far, keep in mind I haven't progressed any further yet, it's the only animation that's done it.

Performance Monitor shows the hiccups as a sudden drop to 0 activity for CPU and GPU during these times...

Running Ryzen 1700x, 32GB RAM, GTX 1070, Skyrim SE and mods all installed to SSD, using Mod Organizer... game runs 60fps, minor dips to 45ish approaching Riverwood and Whiterun, The only potential incompatibility I'm running (by that section in troubleshooting) is Fertility Adventures... FA is at load order slot 58, and SLaVE is loaded iat slot 693, but this isn't quest related...

There are no overwrites to SLaVE or any of the Toys mods, except facegens for NPCs. Also, no conflicts in plugin records. Just covering as many bases as I can.

 

Detailing now out of the way, question is, any idea what's causing the freeze? after all the work I've put in detailing 900 mods, I'm reluctant to start removing mods and testing for a single non-fatal animation

[VirginMarie]

52 minutes ago, r'Satti said:

HI. This may have been covered in previous posts, but I'm reluctant to read 31 pages to find it, if it has.

 

I've got the latest 8.1b version and Toys 1.4, everything is setup properly to best of my knowledge, FNIS XXL generated with 0 consistence issues, 71% CTD ratio, both Virgin and Toys gets processed, all animations registered through SLAL in-game, and SLaVE passes the animation testing through MCM... SKSE 2.0.20, SE v1.5.97

On new game, after I've set all options in menus that takes like an hour to complete lol, I spawn using AltStart with camping in the woods option...

Every time so far, 3 attempts actually, I've gone to the standing stones, thief stone, and stone love anim starts... it also locks up several times, can't access console or menu... no messages in console afterward, and after 3 or so 5-10 second freezes, evenly spaced, animation completes and game resumes like nothing abnormal happened. So far, keep in mind I haven't progressed any further yet, it's the only animation that's done it.

Performance Monitor shows the hiccups as a sudden drop to 0 activity for CPU and GPU during these times...

Running Ryzen 1700x, 32GB RAM, GTX 1070, Skyrim SE and mods all installed to SSD, using Mod Organizer... game runs 60fps, minor dips to 45ish approaching Riverwood and Whiterun, The only potential incompatibility I'm running (by that section in troubleshooting) is Fertility Adventures... FA is at load order slot 58, and SLaVE is loaded iat slot 693, but this isn't quest related...

There are no overwrites to SLaVE or any of the Toys mods, except facegens for NPCs. Also, no conflicts in plugin records. Just covering as many bases as I can.

 

Detailing now out of the way, question is, any idea what's causing the freeze? after all the work I've put in detailing 900 mods, I'm reluctant to start removing mods and testing for a single non-fatal animation

 

Do I know what's causing the graphics rendering pause ? That's how I'd describe it... its like as if your computer says "screw it I can't take this any longer" and goes into a mode of recovery, then does recover and proceeds (Its like it orgasms so hard that it almost passes out, but then after that amazing climax it recovers, ready for more  ). No, I don't know the cause or a fix.

 

One other person had this many months ago, and it was very similar. I can't recreate it likely mainly because I've never tried to install so many mods, but have seen it on video. What was learned then:

• Did many tests, trying to isolate it, and it could only be recreated with the Standing Stones
• Standing Stones have that unique Skyrim vanilla feature where the beam of light goes up into the air, plus lights up the art work on the stone. My theory is that this, which is intense, combined with something else causes it
• Other person also had something like 800 mods, similar to you, so the "combined with something else" could be just sheer number of mods/scripts/whatever

The good news for you... it's not breaking, and it did not, in the other case, effect any of the other numerous animation scenes in SLaVE. I think you can rest assured that its not a installation problem, and that its not a symptom indicating that other things are going to break.

 

I do know that in that high mod count environment, others have had Sexlab fail to work with large numbers of actors in scenes, which SLaVE does do with it's Love Shout in chaotic combat scenes, but you can set a max actors in SLaVE's MCM if you get that problem.

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by VirginMarie

[VirginMarie]

Warning: Don't Let Steam Update your Skyrim SE to (AE) Anniversary Edition

 

Not relevant for LE users.

 

Why?... until SKSE is updated to support AE, the AE update will break SKSE, and thus most mods will not work, at all. Just by letting steam update your SE in the background, when it launches, will be breaking. The default is that this happens.

 

It's said that AE is coming Nov 11. The details are here... LL Post / Nexus Post.

They include suggestions on what to do to avoid the problem.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, leesjig said:

was wondering if the asphyxiation collar really causes that??

 

Well of course it can cause you to pass out in wet smoldering pile of orgasmic ecstasy !!

 

What is really does is makes you occasionally squirt as you walk about. The squirt as from any source, takes away some arousal and adds wetness. You can try to deny that squirt but in this case is almost impossible as you can't predict when its going to happen. If you have HoT&WeT, this means you will eventually pass out for real, because not only does arousal loss mean thermal toys stop working, but wetness will increase your Frostfall exposure to the cold.

 

1 hour ago, leesjig said:

I noticed in vortex some of the mods, toys.esm too, have a mod index of FE(xxx).  Read that vortex is labeling the mod as an esl.  what does that mean? 

 

Yes I flagged Toys as esl.

ESL stands for "Elder Scrolls Light". A plugin that bypasses the normal 254-plugin limit, meaning they do not take up a standard spot in your load order.

 

1 hour ago, leesjig said:

I'm noticing when you update a mod in vortex...vortex seems to not give a crap where in the load order it places the updated esp.  Is vortex running LOOT every time you update a mod, cause it seems to scramble up the load order?

Vortex by default auto-sorts using Loot. You can turn that off and tell it to manually sort. Best to turn if off if you are going to make non-golden rule breaking changes mid-playthrough.

 

1 hour ago, leesjig said:

Well I corrupted my save by updating Lucien, and SLaVe exposed the corrupted save by cycling the animations fast again.  like 1 sec animation.

 

I'm getting really scared to update any mod anymore during a playthrough, if you are wanting your playthrough to last.  Thanks for reading.

You can safely update existing mods mid-playthrough, unless the mod author states otherwise, but must ensure the load order does not change during the process. So with Vortex, turn off the auto-sort. Don't fully trust your mod managers. Don't let them deceive you. And ya, if you are not experienced, just don't make changes at all till its time to start a new game.

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by VirginMarie

[zittonⅡ]

Hi, I like your mod very much, but I'm having some problems running it.

I did not learn the second character of the roar of love, but the module showed that I had learned it and was already on the task of learning the third syllable.

What I want to ask is, when I finish the third syllable, will I automatically learn the second syllable?

Forgive my poor english.

[zittonⅡ]

Just now, zittonⅡ said:

Hi, I like your mod very much, but I'm having some problems running it.

I did not learn the second character of the roar of love, but the module showed that I had learned it and was already on the task of learning the third syllable.

What I want to ask is, when I finish the third syllable, will I automatically learn the second syllable?

Forgive my poor english.

Also, I want to know when your "Toy Story" module will be updated. I can't wait
PS: My sentence seems rude because of my poor English, but I come to you with a sincere heart to ask this question, I hope you don't mind.

[VirginMarie]

4 minutes ago, zittonⅡ said:

Hi, I like your mod very much, but I'm having some problems running it.

I did not learn the second character of the roar of love, but the module showed that I had learned it and was already on the task of learning the third syllable.

What I want to ask is, when I finish the third syllable, will I automatically learn the second syllable?

 

I don't know. Never heard of that happening. Never happened to me. I think it's unlikely you will get the 2nd or 3rd word at all.

 

For that do happen, its likely you have a corrupt save.

1. Did you start a new game when you first added Toys to your load order? That's a requirement.
2. Have you broken the golden rule?
3. What version of this mod are you using? I wonder if its a translation?
4. What happen if you try using a save before the 2nd word (its the book you read from Esabella)? Does the problem re-create?

[VirginMarie]

10 minutes ago, zittonⅡ said:

Also, I want to know when your "Toy Story" module will be updated. I can't wait

 

2 weeks or less

[zittonⅡ]

Thanks for your reply
I did start the module with a new save, using the Chinese translation
This is the third time I've played this module, and this has never happened before.
But as this archive began, something changed.
Casilla, I don't know if that's the name in English, didn't show up after my first training, and the priestess didn't give me the dragon Roar manuscript, so I had to skip the task using code.
Similarly, Gallos never showed up at the beginning of the Day of the Dead mission, and I had no choice but to bypass him and go straight to the cave and use Thum on the statue to skip the mission.

[VirginMarie]

1 minute ago, zittonⅡ said:

‎thank you for your reply.‎‎ ‎
‎ ‎‎i did use chinese translation to start the module‎‎ ‎
‎ with a new save ‎‎this is the third time i've played this module, and it's never happened before. ‎‎but as the archive began, things changed. ‎
‎ ‎‎ ‎‎casilla, i don't know if this is an english name, didn't appear after my first training, the priestess didn't give me the dragon roaring manuscript, so i had to skip the task using code. ‎
‎ ‎‎ ‎‎ ‎
‎ ‎‎similarly, gallos never appeared at the beginning of the death day mission, and i had no choice but to bypass him, go straight to the cave, and use tum to skip the mission on the statue. ‎

 

You have an Installation problem, corrupt save, or bad/outdated translation. I cannot support a translation. 

 

Using console commands to bypass, breaks this mod, making it worse.

[zittonⅡ]

Thanks for your help

[zittonⅡ]

2 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

您有安装问题、损坏保存或不良/过时的翻译。我不能支持翻译。

 

使用控制台命令绕过，打破此模组，使情况变得更糟。

Oh, I see what's going on. The second dragon roar is supposed to have been given after Isabella's mission to teach the thief, so Casilla never came to me. There was a Chinese walkthrough that told me it was a bug, so I skipped it, so there was an error.
But NOW I'm going to start with my save from four days ago。。。

[zittonⅡ]

3 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

You have an Installation problem, corrupt save, or bad/outdated translation. I cannot support a translation. 

 

Using console commands to bypass, breaks this mod, making it worse.

All in all, thanks for your patience and best wishes for the mod

[sen4mi]

So...

 

I have this mod working now, and I go find the scholar and... now my character spontaneously orgasms roughly once every game hour (or every couple minutes, real life time).

 

Is this intended for this mod? Or do I need to go find and fix something in MCM?

[VirginMarie]

55 minutes ago, sen4mi said:

So...

 

I have this mod working now, and I go find the scholar and... now my character spontaneously orgasms roughly once every game hour (or every couple minutes, real life time).

 

Is this intended for this mod? Or do I need to go find and fix something in MCM?

 

The scholar is part of Toy Story, not this mod. The Spontaneous Orgasm is part of Toys, also not part of this mod. No problem I can still help on this thread

 

Let's make sure the mods are installed correctly as your description sounds possibly like not intended behavior but its hard to say...

1. Did you start a new game when first installing Toys? Its a requirement.
2. Does the Toys MCM - Setup tab - Installation test fail? If yes, follow its instructions, there is something not installed right.
3. Does this mod's MCM - first tab -  Installation test fail? 
4. Have you broken the golden rule since first starting the new game?

Now if all is well with those....

 

"my character spontaneously orgasms roughly once every couple minutes, real life time"

 

If it does that all that time, not normal for default MCM settings. But if you see it once or twice, that's very possible.

Spon O's purpose is to take your arousal down. If your arousal has been taken down, you can't have a Spon O until it's back up and chance kicks in.

• Spon O works on chance, as set in the MCM. There's chance at high arousal, thus it depends on if your arousal has gone up
• Arousal increase can come from other mods... this could be where something has gone wild
• Arousal increase is done by Toys, depending on arousal strength from toys worn. You can see this in Toys MCM
• Arousal Increase done by Toys can be adjusted (the weighting) in Toys MCM

 

Edited November 12, 2021 by VirginMarie

[sen4mi]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 

The scholar is part of Toy Story, not this mod. The Spontaneous Orgasm is part of Toys, also not part of this mod. No problem I can still help on this thread

 

Let's make sure the mods are installed correctly as your description sounds possibly like not intended behavior but its hard to say...

1. Did you start a new game when first installing Toys? Its a requirement.
2. Does the Toys MCM - Setup tab - Installation test fail? If yes, follow its instructions, there is something not installed right.
3. Does this mod's MCM - first tab -  Installation test fail? 
4. Have you broken the golden rule since first starting the new game?

Now if all is well with those....

 

"my character spontaneously orgasms roughly once every couple minutes, real life time"

 

If it does that all that time, not normal for default MCM settings. But if you see it once or twice, that's very possible.

Spon O's purpose is to take your arousal down. If your arousal has been taken down, you can't have a Spon O until it's back up and chance kicks in.

• Spon O works on chance, as set in the MCM. There's chance at high arousal, thus it depends on if your arousal has gone up
• Arousal increase can come from other mods... this could be where something has gone wild
• Arousal increase is done by Toys, depending on arousal strength from toys worn. You can see this in Toys MCM
• Arousal Increase done by Toys can be adjusted (the weighting) in Toys MCM

 

 

Oops... maybe I should take this to another thread... 

 

But, to answer your questions I started a game with this particular mod configuration and have not changed any mods since then. And, the tests for Toys and SLaVE both worked.

 

Anyways... I am gradually figuring this out. Thank you.

[netwave]

Got stuck in two quests:

1. Reading the book (the quest after 6 Shrines) in front of Nocturnal statue does nothing. Can't finish that quest.

2. In the Mind of Madness quest, the weapon required can't be used because the cuffs can't be removed.

 

Edited November 15, 2021 by netwave

[VirginMarie]

33 minutes ago, netwave said:

Got stuck in two quests:

1. Reading the book (the quest after 6 Shrines) in front of Nocturnal statue does nothing. Can't finish that quest.

 

Which book? If you mean the Enchantment Tome, take a read of it... make sure you meet the conditions and are going to the correct location. It says you must be a virgin. The location is the ritual chamber where you have been rebirthed.

 

33 minutes ago, netwave said:

2. In the Mind of Madness quest, the weapon required can't be used because the cuffs can't be removed.

 

Which cuffs? There's always a way to remove. Go back once you've removed.

[netwave]

9 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Which book? If you mean the Enchantment Tome, take a read of it... make sure you meet the conditions and are going to the correct location. It says you must be a virgin. The location is the ritual chamber where you have been rebirthed.

 

Thanks, I was able to read it now, and the quest is finished. However, there are no more shrine quest during the reporting.

Now I have finished 8 shrines.

All quests (except the 7 day reporting quest) have a check mark, and no more new quest is initiating, why?

 

 

9 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Which cuffs? There's always a way to remove. Go back once you've removed.

 

I don't know the English name for it. It's the one that reads something like "large and ugly", adding resistance to cold.

The can't be removed.