The Man in Black Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 I'm getting closer and closer to a workable release for the redo of ToMB. I thought I'd share a few teaser images, as I hope it will revolutionize how you play with DoM. Breaking your slaves will earn you the favor of Molag Bal, the King of Rape and Lord of Domination. This favor can then be traded at a special altar for great power, including an immersive way to obtain various DoM spell tomes. There are also a few new spells to use on your slaves, such as Electrical Torment - a concentration spell tagged with the same "pain" keyword as the whip, virtually incapable of accidentally killing your slave. (Although you'll likely be killing plenty on purpose. And the more work you put into breaking a slave before sending her soul to Coldharbour, the more valuable the sacrifice and the greater the rewards.) As the Daedric Prince's Champion, the strength of his blessing will be directly tied to your devotion to him, which is demonstrated primarily by abusing your DoM slaves in the Temple. The crafting room in the Temple also conveniently includes a Betwitching Bench for those who enjoy drugging their slaves. So here's a glimpse of what I've been working on: Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler I still need to pass ToMB's notifications through DoM's API to display nicely together and balance the numbers. But a good chunk of the core mechanics are largely in place. Soon, you will be able to abuse/train your slaves, not merely for gold, but to help bring about the a new Planemeld as the leader of a daedric cult! 8
TrollAutokill Posted September 19, 2024 Author Posted September 19, 2024 5 hours ago, The Man in Black said: still need to pass ToMB's notifications through DoM's API to display nicely For this you need to use in DOM_API: Function SendNotification(String msg, String section = "", int type = 5) ; 0 = Friends, 1 = Mood, 2 = Emotion, 3 = Secondary Abuse, 4 = Order Response, 5 = Important Abuse Where section should be the name of the DOM_Actor aka akActor.GetName() and type 5 should be fine.
The Man in Black Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 3 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: For this you need to use in DOM_API: Function SendNotification(String msg, String section = "", int type = 5) ; 0 = Friends, 1 = Mood, 2 = Emotion, 3 = Secondary Abuse, 4 = Order Response, 5 = Important Abuse Where section should be the name of the DOM_Actor aka akActor.GetName() and type 5 should be fine. Perfect. That clears those arguments up a lot. I'll implement that tonight.
Nohrin Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 I remember a way of abducting NPCs directly into DoM. That option has actually appeared for me a couple times. But how do you reliably get it to appear?
TrollAutokill Posted September 19, 2024 Author Posted September 19, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nohrin said: I remember a way of abducting NPCs directly into DoM. That option has actually appeared for me a couple times. But how do you reliably get it to appear? Either press the H key (default key) or it should be next to the PAH enslave option for sleeping, paralysed or bleeding out NPC. Next version will have it triggered on unconscious actors too. Edited September 19, 2024 by TrollAutokill
Nohrin Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 5 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Either press the H key (default key) or it should be next to the PAH enslave option for sleeping, paralysed or bleeding out NPC. Next version will have it triggered on unconscious actors too. Its very strange. Some enemies it shows up for me. Others it does not. Are you referring to PAHE's marking hotkey? Does DoM use its own hotkey or makes use of PAHE's? All this time I have been using PAHE's. I mark a target, get them to low hp, and sometimes the option to enslave into DoM appears, but more often only enslave to PAHE is shown. To be clear, I always have an option to enslave. But usually its only to PAHE.
TrollAutokill Posted September 20, 2024 Author Posted September 20, 2024 14 minutes ago, Nohrin said: Its very strange. Some enemies it shows up for me. Others it does not. Are you referring to PAHE's marking hotkey? Does DoM use its own hotkey or makes use of PAHE's? All this time I have been using PAHE's. I mark a target, get them to low hp, and sometimes the option to enslave into DoM appears, but more often only enslave to PAHE is shown. To be clear, I always have an option to enslave. But usually its only to PAHE. Option is "Abduct (DOM)". It should appear when their HP is low enough or when sleeping. It doesn't work with the PAH mark though
Nohrin Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: Option is "Abduct (DOM)". It should appear when their HP is low enough or when sleeping. It doesn't work with the PAH mark though Ohhh. So using the Mark from PAHE is what is causing it to not show up. That answers my question. I was using PAHE marking to get slaves. So the only way to with DoM is to just get them low hp/when sleeping? DoM doesn't have a mark of it own, or settings to adjust like PAHE?
tonitrulupus Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 On 9/18/2024 at 4:12 PM, TrollAutokill said: Yes sorry for the mistake, sicko is the borderline personality. Psycho would imply they have a mental disease, which is not covered by DOM's HEXACO model. That's fine, sicko is a very broad subjective term, Just wanted to know how you defined it. Is there a way to change relationships of slaves? like some will be friends while other may become lovers, then one with stop being friends which I think is cool.
tonitrulupus Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 29 minutes ago, Nohrin said: Ohhh. So using the Mark from PAHE is what is causing it to not show up. That answers my question. I was using PAHE marking to get slaves. So the only way to with DoM is to just get them low hp/when sleeping? DoM doesn't have a mark of it own, or settings to adjust like PAHE? there is also an abduction spell 2
TrollAutokill Posted September 20, 2024 Author Posted September 20, 2024 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Nohrin said: Ohhh. So using the Mark from PAHE is what is causing it to not show up. That answers my question. I was using PAHE marking to get slaves. So the only way to with DoM is to just get them low hp/when sleeping? DoM doesn't have a mark of it own, or settings to adjust like PAHE? No mark. But you have the H key, which might fail, but has higher chance of success when sneaking out from the back. You also have enchanted weapons and a spell for faster abduction. Next version will add a bludgeon to knock your opponents from the back and you can enslave unconscious actors. Edited September 20, 2024 by TrollAutokill 3
TrollAutokill Posted September 20, 2024 Author Posted September 20, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, tonitrulupus said: s there a way to change relationships of slaves? They just grow fond of each other if they spend enough time together and if their personalities are compatible. There is also a relationship factor. But they can't fall in love with each other, as their main focus is survival and that means emotions (and ultimately feelings of love or just loyalty) are channeled to the Mistress/Master exclusively. The friendship is part of the survival, but is a support each others feature, nothing romantic. Edited September 20, 2024 by TrollAutokill
tonitrulupus Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: They just grow fond of each other if they spend enough time together and if their personalities are compatible. There is also a relationship factor. But they can't fall in love with each other, as their main focus is survival and that means emotions (and ultimately feelings) are channeled to the Mistress/Master exclusively. That does make sense,. by the way riekling work as slave trainers, going to have to try a troll next. 1
TrollAutokill Posted September 20, 2024 Author Posted September 20, 2024 18 minutes ago, tonitrulupus said: That does make sense,. by the way riekling work as slave trainers, going to have to try a troll next. Well actually they could fall in love up until the shock/broken mood states, and it could be fun to have two horny slaves reliving each others. I'll put that in my to-do list together with the spontaneous masturbation. 3
Whatevs120 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 (edited) I keep having issues transfering slaves from PAH to HSH after these latest update. The slaves do not get unregistered from PAH after being transfered to HSH so both the names show up in the list. Sometimes this causes them to get stuck in limbo and refuse to follow and respond to certain commands. I had this issue even when transfering slaves from DoM to PAH, but starting a fresh save and waiting for PAH and SexLab to initialize before installing HSH and DoM seems to have fixed only this. Could DoM cause this? it's the only mod that received updates. I didn't have this issue before. After the first restart, should I install HSH only, wait for it to start up and then install DoM with addons? Edit: I tried this also. Even transfering from PAH to DoM without HSH. It seems like there's an issue transfering anything from PAH to other addons. PAH doesn't unregister its slaves anymore. I guess I could only move stuff between HSH and DoM without ever going through PAH for the time being Edited September 20, 2024 by Whatevs120
Furflz Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 So I know I'm always full of annoying suggestions but I've been playing quite a bit of vampire playthrough stuff researching for a mod I'm thinking about doing and I was wondering if you had any plans on having vampire specific training options? I know if I was regularly fed upon by vampires sinking their fangs into my neck that it would fuck me up pretty badly... that or turn me on... ANYWAY... When you think about it seriously though the fear and trauma of being repeatedly drained of blood alone seems like it would be enough to break someone. But currently I can feed on my slaves fairly constantly and they don't seem to mind one bit so I thought I would bring it up. I was thinking that in the beginning a slave being fed upon would be a source of Fear and shock and increase submission and resignation training as well as generally traumatizing the slaves. (maybe influencing their personality traits and making them more timid/meek?). You could even add a special event where you "make an example" out of a bad slave and drain them dry in front of the rest of your slaves and utterly terrify them. But for slaves who are in the "Loyal" and/or "in love" state they I could see them rapidly developing a kink for being fed upon by their master... maybe occasionally approaching their master to see if they are thirsty... Anyway I thought I'd just mention my musings and see what you thought. 3
TrollAutokill Posted September 20, 2024 Author Posted September 20, 2024 2 hours ago, Whatevs120 said: I keep having issues transfering slaves from PAH to HSH after these latest update. The slaves do not get unregistered from PAH after being transfered to HSH so both the names show up in the list. Sometimes this causes them to get stuck in limbo and refuse to follow and respond to certain commands. I had this issue even when transfering slaves from DoM to PAH, but starting a fresh save and waiting for PAH and SexLab to initialize before installing HSH and DoM seems to have fixed only this. Could DoM cause this? it's the only mod that received updates. I didn't have this issue before. After the first restart, should I install HSH only, wait for it to start up and then install DoM with addons? Edit: I tried this also. Even transfering from PAH to DoM without HSH. It seems like there's an issue transfering anything from PAH to other addons. PAH doesn't unregister its slaves anymore. I guess I could only move stuff between HSH and DoM without ever going through PAH for the time being You can install everything at once, it works for me. But it is important you let everything initialize, then save and restart Skyrim for load. PAH is not able to initialize properly at startup, it needs the OnLoadGame event, and DOM needs PAH. Also, make sure to never empty PAH to zero slaves. Once the slave array is filled, it can't be erased. So always keep 1 dummy slave in PAH. I did a transfer PAH to DOM just this morning and everything was fine. Do you also have problems with DOM to PAH?
TrollAutokill Posted September 20, 2024 Author Posted September 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Furflz said: So I know I'm always full of annoying suggestions but I've been playing quite a bit of vampire playthrough stuff researching for a mod I'm thinking about doing and I was wondering if you had any plans on having vampire specific training options? I know if I was regularly fed upon by vampires sinking their fangs into my neck that it would fuck me up pretty badly... that or turn me on... ANYWAY... When you think about it seriously though the fear and trauma of being repeatedly drained of blood alone seems like it would be enough to break someone. But currently I can feed on my slaves fairly constantly and they don't seem to mind one bit so I thought I would bring it up. I was thinking that in the beginning a slave being fed upon would be a source of Fear and shock and increase submission and resignation training as well as generally traumatizing the slaves. (maybe influencing their personality traits and making them more timid/meek?). You could even add a special event where you "make an example" out of a bad slave and drain them dry in front of the rest of your slaves and utterly terrify them. But for slaves who are in the "Loyal" and/or "in love" state they I could see them rapidly developing a kink for being fed upon by their master... maybe occasionally approaching their master to see if they are thirsty... Anyway I thought I'd just mention my musings and see what you thought. It's in my to-do list. Main problem is: how do you detect feeding without replacing or breaking vanilla or modded vampire feeding. I never modded vampires so may be there is an event for it, but I don't know.
Whatevs120 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 5 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: You can install everything at once, it works for me. But it is important you let everything initialize, then save and restart Skyrim for load. PAH is not able to initialize properly at startup, it needs the OnLoadGame event, and DOM needs PAH. Also, make sure to never empty PAH to zero slaves. Once the slave array is filled, it can't be erased. So always keep 1 dummy slave in PAH. I did a transfer PAH to DOM just this morning and everything was fine. Do you also have problems with DOM to PAH? DoM to PAH works fine. I wasn't aware of the 1 dummy slave minimum cause in the past I never ran into this issue. I always managed to empty PAH by sending everything to HSH. Thanks for the info
mindgame Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 11:02 PM, TrollAutokill said: As noted above they are working in DOM too, albeit a little differently. Okay. I guess it´s a problem on my end. Just to make sure: A slave shouldn´t be able to attempt to run away when wearing a Collar of Leashing, right?
pinky6225 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 (edited) 37 minutes ago, mindgame said: Okay. I guess it´s a problem on my end. Just to make sure: A slave shouldn´t be able to attempt to run away when wearing a Collar of Leashing, right? No they shouldnt be able to escape/run away with that collar on Edited September 21, 2024 by pinky6225
Durante Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 (edited) I think something's wrong with some of the poses. Getting a lot of X cross hanging in air poses when asking captives to pose, it seems like a T pose that I also get on GSPoses in Gunslicer's placeholder animation slots. It could be that they rearranged the order of some animations? Edited September 21, 2024 by Durante
TrollAutokill Posted September 21, 2024 Author Posted September 21, 2024 2 hours ago, Durante said: I think something's wrong with some of the poses. Getting a lot of X cross hanging in air poses when asking captives to pose, it seems like a T pose that I also get on GSPoses in Gunslicer's placeholder animation slots. It could be that they rearranged the order of some animations? Run FNIS again?
tonitrulupus Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 4:57 AM, Furflz said: So I know I'm always full of annoying suggestions but I've been playing quite a bit of vampire playthrough stuff researching for a mod I'm thinking about doing and I was wondering if you had any plans on having vampire specific training options? I know if I was regularly fed upon by vampires sinking their fangs into my neck that it would fuck me up pretty badly... that or turn me on... ANYWAY... When you think about it seriously though the fear and trauma of being repeatedly drained of blood alone seems like it would be enough to break someone. But currently I can feed on my slaves fairly constantly and they don't seem to mind one bit so I thought I would bring it up. I was thinking that in the beginning a slave being fed upon would be a source of Fear and shock and increase submission and resignation training as well as generally traumatizing the slaves. (maybe influencing their personality traits and making them more timid/meek?). You could even add a special event where you "make an example" out of a bad slave and drain them dry in front of the rest of your slaves and utterly terrify them. But for slaves who are in the "Loyal" and/or "in love" state they I could see them rapidly developing a kink for being fed upon by their master... maybe occasionally approaching their master to see if they are thirsty... Anyway I thought I'd just mention my musings and see what you thought. what vampire mods do you use? I always run a vamp werewolf succubus hybrid, draining by sucking, f#cking and eating out their heart! what a way to go lol! I personally use this one, Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim 6.0.0, though it does not have as many features and better vamps, it does create a bond to the one that you feed off of, just have to be carful you don't add them to any more follower mods, that tends to break things, blood bond allows you to have just about any npc as a follower , but it does help in training them faster once that bond is created
tonitrulupus Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 6:55 AM, TrollAutokill said: It's in my to-do list. Main problem is: how do you detect feeding without replacing or breaking vanilla or modded vampire feeding. I never modded vampires so may be there is an event for it, but I don't know. I am not sure if this mod may help in some way, there is a mod called thirst, I used it for a short while, and it seem not to work all the time, but it didnt crach the game either, when it did work the vampire will come up behind a NPC and feed off them https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34356 is the latest, I guess someone redid the mod, Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim has some pretty good feeding method that could help as well
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