MasterKriiden Posted August 25, 2024 Posted August 25, 2024 Love this mod. Wouldn't want to draw the attention of a certain Roleplaying dnd group though, IMHO. You don't need THAT kind of publicity. On another note, love the mod, it got me into Paradise Halls. Thanks for all your hard work. Hope you had a good summer break. My goal is to have a Harem with bondage devices, so they all have to do that ridiculous kick for combat. Problem is most items/other animations break the bound/bound combat animation, and the slaves will pick up weapons randomally, which also overrides animations; i've seen some conversations (recent I think) in this thread that I think talk about this. Another issue im having, but not sure others are; slaves don't want to equip the enchanted rings I want to put on them (ones that buff unarmed damage, XP). I generally use modlists from Wabbajack (originally Neferam, but switched to Licentia: Servitium, which was unfortunately sunset by the author.) Installed this on top of it because it had all the necessary requirements (except for slave tats). Works well for the most part. Thanks again! Hope you are doing well. P.S, if you ever want more testers based on a certain build list, may I perhaps reccomend building a mod list? Wabbajack is prolly the best, but both are Nexus API based (I think? Not a coder) so I don't think there is much of a difference other then the program that runs them. I'd def want to use the same list your using, since it looks like you play as a Male, and there are no male dom lists on Wabbajack, or...well, anywhere I think. I'd definently..."test" it. 1
TrollAutokill Posted August 25, 2024 Author Posted August 25, 2024 31 minutes ago, MasterKriiden said: ove this mod. Wouldn't want to draw the attention of a certain Roleplaying dnd group though, IMHO. You don't need THAT I am not sure I get what you mean there.
TrollAutokill Posted August 25, 2024 Author Posted August 25, 2024 32 minutes ago, MasterKriiden said: P.S, if you ever want more testers based on a certain build list, may I perhaps reccomend building a mod list? Wabbajack is prolly the best, but both are Nexus API based (I think? Not a coder) so I don't think there is much of a difference other then the program that runs them. I'd def want to use the same list your using, since it looks like you play as a Male, and there are no male dom lists on Wabbajack, or...well, anywhere I think. I'd definently..."test" it. I try to run with a minimum amount of mods for development. A wabbajack list doesn't seem so important. 1
DonQuiWho Posted August 26, 2024 Posted August 26, 2024 8 hours ago, MasterKriiden said: Love this mod. Wouldn't want to draw the attention of a certain Roleplaying dnd group though, IMHO. You don't need THAT kind of publicity. On another note, love the mod, it got me into Paradise Halls. Thanks for all your hard work. Hope you had a good summer break. My goal is to have a Harem with bondage devices, so they all have to do that ridiculous kick for combat. Problem is most items/other animations break the bound/bound combat animation, and the slaves will pick up weapons randomally, which also overrides animations; i've seen some conversations (recent I think) in this thread that I think talk about this. Another issue im having, but not sure others are; slaves don't want to equip the enchanted rings I want to put on them (ones that buff unarmed damage, XP). I generally use modlists from Wabbajack (originally Neferam, but switched to Licentia: Servitium, which was unfortunately sunset by the author.) Installed this on top of it because it had all the necessary requirements (except for slave tats). Works well for the most part. Thanks again! Hope you are doing well. P.S, if you ever want more testers based on a certain build list, may I perhaps reccomend building a mod list? Wabbajack is prolly the best, but both are Nexus API based (I think? Not a coder) so I don't think there is much of a difference other then the program that runs them. I'd def want to use the same list your using, since it looks like you play as a Male, and there are no male dom lists on Wabbajack, or...well, anywhere I think. I'd definently..."test" it. A couple of mods that might help you keep animations from breaking are: For DD Better NPC Support for Devious Devices 0.7 beta 1 SE For ZAZ - Can be set for DOM+PAHE,,,,OR,,,,ALL NPC KLBZAZFixerBeta4 Can't remember who the authors are/where to find them - and it's late! - so just do a search and you should get lucky Hope that helps DQW 1
深淵の神 Posted August 26, 2024 Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) Hi @TrollAutokill The Man, The Legend. I was wondering if there was any kind of support for vampire characters, it would be really handy to be able to have scary dialogues about how you're going to feed and abuse those poor souls, adding a punishment and reward system around that as well. Also does anyone know of a mod that makes it so Serana can feed on NPCs but not kill them? I'd like to be able to use my slaves as Serana's personal livestock, while she feeds and I abuse them. As always these are just ideas, It is not my intention to tell the artist how to carry out his vision *wink* Something I found useful about those boring CC mods (AE) is that at least now I have more NPCs to collect and add to my personal slave-harem haha Spoiler Edited August 26, 2024 by サマエル
Catnapper2 Posted August 26, 2024 Posted August 26, 2024 Would it be possible to add the lactaid from Milk mod economy to be one of the potions that be forced on a slave? To make it work properly with the constraints of Milk Mod Economy said slave would should be given the distinction of milk slave instead of milk maid as there are a limited amount of slots available.
TrollAutokill Posted August 26, 2024 Author Posted August 26, 2024 10 hours ago, サマエル said: Hi @TrollAutokill The Man, The Legend. I was wondering if there was any kind of support for vampire characters, it would be really handy to be able to have scary dialogues about how you're going to feed and abuse those poor souls, adding a punishment and reward system around that as well. Also does anyone know of a mod that makes it so Serana can feed on NPCs but not kill them? I'd like to be able to use my slaves as Serana's personal livestock, while she feeds and I abuse them. As always these are just ideas, It is not my intention to tell the artist how to carry out his vision *wink* Something I found useful about those boring CC mods (AE) is that at least now I have more NPCs to collect and add to my personal slave-harem haha Reveal hidden contents This would need the he a DOM add-on to an existing vampire feeding mod. Unfortunately I don't have much time right now. 1
TrollAutokill Posted August 26, 2024 Author Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, Catnapper2 said: Would it be possible to add the lactaid from Milk mod economy to be one of the potions that be forced on a slave? To make it work properly with the constraints of Milk Mod Economy said slave would should be given the distinction of milk slave instead of milk maid as there are a limited amount of slots available. Same answer as above. This needs a DOM add-on and my to-do list is already too big to promise anything more. Edited August 26, 2024 by TrollAutokill
MasterKriiden Posted August 26, 2024 Posted August 26, 2024 22 hours ago, DonQuiWho said: A couple of mods that might help you keep animations from breaking are: For DD Better NPC Support for Devious Devices 0.7 beta 1 SE For ZAZ - Can be set for DOM+PAHE,,,,OR,,,,ALL NPC KLBZAZFixerBeta4 Can't remember who the authors are/where to find them - and it's late! - so just do a search and you should get lucky Hope that helps DQW Thank you. One of them I'm fiddeling with, the other seems to disable bound combat.
cap_wacky Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 On 8/24/2024 at 3:28 PM, TrollAutokill said: Well if you find the xVaSynth files, I will gladly process the DOM dialogues through them. If you are talking about the .fuz files then this should be them. Extracted from the main BSA from the mod in question: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/38473?tab=description Presuming these are the right file type for the xVaSynth (I thought I saw a bit in there that could use .fuz files) then I can grab them from the other follower mod or two in question as well... Improved Follower Lydia 4.22.zip
TrollAutokill Posted August 28, 2024 Author Posted August 28, 2024 9 hours ago, cap_wacky said: If you are talking about the .fuz files then this should be them. Extracted from the main BSA from the mod in question: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/38473?tab=description Presuming these are the right file type for the xVaSynth (I thought I saw a bit in there that could use .fuz files) then I can grab them from the other follower mod or two in question as well... Improved Follower Lydia 4.22.zip 50.14 MB · 0 downloads No, I am talking about the model files from xVATrainer.
wower2345 Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 Do slaves gets pose training from poses played through things other than DOM such as Poser Hotkeys?
wower2345 Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 (edited) What sort of outfits do you guys like giving your slaves? Something fitting, other than being naked of course. Here's some of mine: Maid Outfit from Cosplay Pack Spartacus Slave Outfit Chastity Belt from Devious Devices Edited August 28, 2024 by wower2345 2
TrollAutokill Posted August 28, 2024 Author Posted August 28, 2024 57 minutes ago, wower2345 said: Do slaves gets pose training from poses played through things other than DOM such as Poser Hotkeys? DOM or PAH needs to he aware of the pose, otherwise it's just an animation. The answer is no or you'll need to make an add-on.
Gräfin Zeppelin Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 49 minutes ago, wower2345 said: What sort of outfits do you guys like giving your slaves? Something fitting, other than being naked of course. Here's some of mine: Maid Outfit from Cosplay Pack Spartacus Slave Outfit Chastity Belt from Devious Devices It differs from playthrough to playthrough but curently 2
DonQuiWho Posted August 30, 2024 Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) I know that there are other threads for pics, but as we seem to be doing an interlude on costumes and finery, just as a once off(!), here's a couple of the Stormcloak General, the leader defeated in the Civil War at Whiterun, after she'd been Diarized as Mine, trained by a Frost Troll, togged out in her nightie, and now earning her keep whilst I am progressing through AYGAS She doesn't know it yet, but once she's proved her worth as a pro, she's going to be sold to Brenuin. He's got to have a reason for, as he does occasionally, randomly dropping dead .... 😋 Edited August 30, 2024 by DonQuiWho 3
Vegetius Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 (edited) I think I'm encountering a bug. I've just hired a Slaver by paying a hefty sum to a free NPC, not a slave, but she keeps running away. How can I fix this? Edited August 31, 2024 by Vegetius
Will55 Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 Would it be possible to have a "directory" mod which has all slavery mods and their contained slaves in a group for each such mod and/or listed altogether in one list It would not need to have excessive slave data, just name and their source mod with the name defining listed order. I ask as I just transferred some 40 slaves to a cellar and I have not clue as to who is DOM, HSH or PAHE and I find the tattooing of faces to be revolting. Of course, I could just "take a shot" and search each MCM for that slave but life is far too short. Any suggestions?
TrollAutokill Posted August 31, 2024 Author Posted August 31, 2024 9 hours ago, Vegetius said: I think I'm encountering a bug. I've just hired a Slaver by paying a hefty sum to a free NPC, not a slave, but she keeps running away. How can I fix this? You can't fix it, but there is a work around: release the NPC, then change their faction Pahsubmission to 70 or higher. Then get your gold back from the console and re-hire. 1
TrollAutokill Posted August 31, 2024 Author Posted August 31, 2024 7 hours ago, Will55 said: Would it be possible to have a "directory" mod which has all slavery mods and their contained slaves in a group for each such mod and/or listed altogether in one list It would not need to have excessive slave data, just name and their source mod with the name defining listed order. I ask as I just transferred some 40 slaves to a cellar and I have not clue as to who is DOM, HSH or PAHE and I find the tattooing of faces to be revolting. Of course, I could just "take a shot" and search each MCM for that slave but life is far too short. Any suggestions? You could write a new mod for that with just an mcm and a property for each mod you want to list.
Will55 Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 (edited) 55 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: You could write a new mod for that with just an mcm and a property for each mod you want to list. I could? You are joking, of course. Just look at my problems comprehending just the workings of DOM alone. But thank you for the reply. TBH I had the PAHE method of enslavement working perfectly on everyone even the difficult forgotten, hateful and judgmental wenches and NightLord vampires. But trying the DOM method just wasted an hour as she ran all over Irknthand and damn near had my char killed in the process. It seems that DOM takes over enslavement unless I am mistaken and I do not like that. Am I correct? If not then apologies as only DOM worked and that partially as I could not restrain her or even give her a leash collar. Is there a simple way to add single slaves to DOM from PAHE and back? Edited August 31, 2024 by Will55
深淵の神 Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 32 minutes ago, Will55 said: Is there a simple way to add single slaves to DOM from PAHE and back? That option is just a click away in the DoM MCM. It is recommended that you read the mod page carefully and analyze the MCM in detail because the mod has very useful and quite interesting settings. If you don't want your slaves to run away you also have an option right there. Remember that you can always put those "enchanted" PAH collars on them to prevent them from running away as well. 2
DonQuiWho Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 44 minutes ago, Will55 said: I could? You are joking, of course. Just look at my problems comprehending just the workings of DOM alone. But thank you for the reply. TBH I had the PAHE method of enslavement working perfectly on everyone even the difficult forgotten, hateful and judgmental wenches and NightLord vampires. But trying the DOM method just wasted an hour as she ran all over Irknthand and damn near had my char killed in the process. It seems that DOM takes over enslavement unless I am mistaken and I do not like that. Am I correct? If not then apologies as only DOM worked and that partially as I could not restrain her or even give her a leash collar. Is there a simple way to add single slaves to DOM from PAHE and back? Look at the narrative 'Let's have a serious talk' Allowing for the narratives mentioned below not being exact, but best as i can recall OTTOTH - 1 - PAH slaves are t/f to DOM with the 'I want to give you the special DOM treatment' 2 - DOM slaves are t/f to PAH with 'I'm tired of your bitching (or something very like that)' As for DOM capture, it's dead simple. I do the following - damage the NPC to a health below the health threshold - click on them to get the DOM enslavement Narratives - select the 'DOM Abduction' option - the NPC collapses, sometimes two appear for a brief moment, then they are down on one knee and you use the NPC enslavement narratives that appear you want Personal choice is - dealing with equipment first, strip them naked - then tell them to shut up and follow me As soon as they are on their feet, select narrative option 'I get to chose what you wear' Their outfit menu should appear blank - other than maybe for the occxasional bandit's glkowing pearl@ I then transfer to that from my inventory - a collar of leashing - a Zaz HDT ankle chain set - some sort of arm restraints egs, DCUR's steel shackles, ZaZ metal yoke, Zaz Metal cuffs etc - a ZaZ leather gag - a Black Leather Hood (not craftable, added by console after 'paying for them' by crafting DD Blindfolds, and throwing them into a pond - no cheating in my game 😉) Then tell them to follow you close, until you train them to 'minimum non runaway submission score' when you can retrieve the now unneeded leash collar and replace it with a more decorative one Assuming I've addressed your issues, It's all very simple BTW, if in combat, I paralyse the NPC if at all possible so that they are comatose whilst I beat their health down. That does make it easier. There are mods to allow you to increase the effective paralysis period and those can help to, ie so you take them out with an arrow and leave them until all is done and dusted before you go round a battlefield to decide which ones you want to keep, and which can go to the lower depths of Sovngarde Apols for the wall of words DQW PS, the best trainers you can recruit are trolls. They really mean business, and are mean about it too 3
Will55 Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, サマエル said: That option is just a click away in the DoM MCM. It is recommended that you read the mod page carefully and analyze the MCM in detail because the mod has very useful and quite interesting settings. If you don't want your slaves to run away you also have an option right there. Remember that you can always put those "enchanted" PAH collars on them to prevent them from running away as well. Thank you for the reply. BUT WRT your last sentence I chased the final incarnation of a Forgotten GloomSeeker all over Irkngthand trying to make her take the leash collar and restraints and I could find no way that worked. That was why I asked IF DOM now ran the whole show which to me seems likely. TBH she was my first attempted enslavement since activation of DOM, so I did expect some problems. I will have another look at the MCM to see what I missed All I have done recently is study the DOM pages plus the "guide". I am not the slightest bit interested in the feelings and kinks it brings to slaves as I only wanted the extra space for slaves. That may seem insulting to TrollAutoKillbut it is not meant to be as I have enough problems with slaves without adding temperament to the mix. Perhaps when I understand it better it may be considered as everyone else here seems to love it. Update I found the transfer from DOM key as it is on each slaves profile Edited September 1, 2024 by Will55
Will55 Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 (edited) On 9/1/2024 at 6:24 AM, DonQuiWho said: Look at the narrative 'Let's have a serious talk' Allowing for the narratives mentioned below not being exact, but best as i can recall OTTOTH - 1 - PAH slaves are t/f to DOM with the 'I want to give you the special DOM treatment' 2 - DOM slaves are t/f to PAH with 'I'm tired of your bitching (or something very like that)' As for DOM capture, it's dead simple. I do the following - damage the NPC to a health below the health threshold - click on them to get the DOM enslavement Narratives - select the 'DOM Abduction' option - the NPC collapses, sometimes two appear for a brief moment, then they are down on one knee and you use the NPC enslavement narratives that appear you want Personal choice is - dealing with equipment first, strip them naked - then tell them to shut up and follow me As soon as they are on their feet, select narrative option 'I get to chose what you wear' Their outfit menu should appear blank - other than maybe for the occxasional bandit's glkowing pearl@ I then transfer to that from my inventory - a collar of leashing - a Zaz HDT ankle chain set - some sort of arm restraints egs, DCUR's steel shackles, ZaZ metal yoke, Zaz Metal cuffs etc - a ZaZ leather gag - a Black Leather Hood (not craftable, added by console after 'paying for them' by crafting DD Blindfolds, and throwing them into a pond - no cheating in my game 😉) Then tell them to follow you close, until you train them to 'minimum non runaway submission score' when you can retrieve the now unneeded leash collar and replace it with a more decorative one Assuming I've addressed your issues, It's all very simple BTW, if in combat, I paralyse the NPC if at all possible so that they are comatose whilst I beat their health down. That does make it easier. There are mods to allow you to increase the effective paralysis period and those can help to, ie so you take them out with an arrow and leave them until all is done and dusted before you go round a battlefield to decide which ones you want to keep, and which can go to the lower depths of Sovngarde Apols for the wall of words DQW PS, the best trainers you can recruit are trolls. They really mean business, and are mean about it too Now that I call a helpful answer and not a condescending reply as seems prevalent here when I ask, what to many seems a "dumb" question. So a hearty "thank you" for what is decidedly not a "wall of words" but typical of you here on LL In PAHE my current char has high alteration and uses paralyze with illusion's disorient as backup to enslave. Rarely is direct health reduction used. It is successful on almost all foes and even those with resistance to paralysis can have it fail if repeated often enough and even then, disorient will often work. Once paralyzed I strip them then apply a leash collar and ZAZ iron leg/wrist cuffs for restraint. I am very happy with this method (although I like your executioner hood idea)and see no point in having DOM's method forced upon me, especially after the "fun" I had using the DOM way with Ms Forgotten Gloomseeker who like all such special wenches is a real handful to enslave even under PAHE so perhaps an easier target would sort it out. The problem is that my enslavement attempts have only allowed DOM question/replies and I am yet to work out a way to fit PAHE's method to the slave using the DOM intercourse package. Never mind, I will find a way as having transferred 126 slaves from PAHE to DOM I am stuck with it. Update: I decided to enslave 3 falmer females and it was strange; the first one was a straight NPs PAHE slave ( I had to supply the restraints and collar) while the other two were already restrained when I spoke to them and they only required the leash collar. Then when I was about to send them to the Bondage house the first one had disappeared from the game (no physical presence and not in PAHE or DOM slave directory with the latter 2 in the PAHE one. So I repeated the enslavement and Karliah killed the 3rd one and 1 was the same (no restraints) as was 2 (with restraints), Both finished up in PAHE. I find this confusing to say the least. However it does show that enslaving forgotten wenches can be a real problem if using DOM. They were never easy without DOM but DOM seems to have made them harder to enslave. I will watch this as it mean that Hateful and Judgmental wenches will be more difficult. Oh well a challenge. But it does mean that I should be able to PAHE enslave most as I did before. Then I can look at the moods/kinks . It IS interesting to ay the least. Update 2: PAHE does not seem to appreciate DOM's involvement in enslavement and regular PAHE restarts are necessary so a to not lose any slaves from the MCM. The Forgotten wenches are totally resistant to paralyze and even disorient (that shocked me) and only good old HP reduction works with them but I now have a pet GloomSeeker and will attempt the others in the Forgotten family tomorrow. No idea if anyone is reading this but despite my whinging it has been quite educational as well as interesting at least for me. Edited September 2, 2024 by Will55
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