Diary Of Mine for Paradise Halls

[Villianize]

55 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

 

Well if we are talking about lore then this wouldn't make sense.. I mean it would be funny and i by no means would i not ignore the lore (i mean using pahe and selling slaves to Citys breaks the laws anyway  so i don't give a fuck about lore in this case xD)

Breeding wouldn't really make sense since TES races don't mix, a Childs Race will be that of his mother so orcs would pretty much hate the idea ?

 

But as a Tool to release their stress and a punching bag.. Aye that would work (if we talking about Breton slaves.. Who played Eso sometime on Daggerfalls side will get that one.)

 

I didn't even knew orcs where all guard faction.. Wtf

Yea this is also true, as orcs are very stern about their way of life and following the code.

I mean from another standpoint I'd say since only the chief is allowed to have sons and daughters who can be part of the stronghold, Id imagine every other male orc would want something to destress. Most other races wouldnt stroll up to an orc stronghold asking for a possible husband either, so I feel it could work from a lore friendly standpoint as any male whod have to be cooped up with a bunch of girls but isnt allowed to do anything would eventually become super frustrated (As procreation for a future stronger generation is a very serious thing for orcs).

Selling slaves in the city is against the law definitely lore wise, but less we forget Dark Elves enslaved the Khajit for ages. Id imagine if slavery happened long enough in any skyrim hold itd take eventually.

But yea if you want to sell slaves to orcs you have to manually remove their guard faction.

My playstyle has mostly been an Orc trying to unite the strongholds (Kind of like a resurrection of Orsinium kind of playthrough). I can only imagine for other players like myself who run orcs and know the Orc history for TES, can imagine that after everything that has happened for the orcs up to Skyrim, beyond minding their own business, if they were to be offered a slave, or proposed a chance to bolster themselves, theyd be very against every race except Khajits, Wood Elves, and Argonians as theyve never had a bad run in with orcs. Bretons Set them up, Redguards had a hand at defeating them in Orsinium, Nords a blatantly racist to Orcs, High Elves are blatantly racist to everyone, Dark Elves I dont see ever getting along due to values, and Imperials I feel just dont really care either which way. 

As for Breeding Slaves for Strongholds, It could just be like PC talks to any Orc in the stronghold:

Dialogue tree for selling Slaves to the stronghold:

Spoiler

PC Orc UI/Game

"I've come to barter with the Stronghold." 
"What do you offer Outlander?"
Dialogue shows options of every available slave following PC
*PC choses a slave*
"Does this price please you Outlander?"
*Shows Price like HSH*
*PC accepts or Declines*
"This shall help our kin after a long days work. Return if you require your slave back."
*Slave is turned over to that stronghold and is beaten, banged, forced to drink, and restrained*
*Slaves sent to strongholds who can be broken by Rape or Beating break faster*

 

[Kalysto]

From what I remember in HSH, when Mona is found I think you can enslave her through dialogue, this is the code Musje used:

 

Quote

PAHOCatchMoreCriminals qst = (GetOwningQuest() as PAHOCatchMoreCriminals)
qst.EnslaveMona()
if (qst.JarlInform.GetRef() == None)
   qst.SetStage(90)
else
   qst.SetStage(80)
endif

 

That seems to work because EnslaveMona is this:

 

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Function EnslaveMona()
    Actor mona = MonaRef.GetRef() as Actor
    mona.SetRestrained(false)
    MonaRef.Clear()
    PHHSH.DeregisterFromWhiteRun(mona)
EndFunction

 

... and DeregisterFromWhiterun seems to call a lot of stuff I don't understand but more importantly seems to add the slave with PAH.AddSlave

Edited March 22, 2022 by Kalysto
code highlighting was crazy

[Kalysto]

I see a lot of opportunities for blackmailing, gaslighting and shit hahaha <insert skeletor laugh>

[McLovin3]

I have no idea if this helps or not on the current discussion but I remember the last public version of Sexy Bandit Captives had a PAH enslave by dialogue on a captive when she was fully subjugated AND you had a full black soul gem (it all seemed a bit excessive IMO for all that when you can just enslave her via traditional PAH methods)

 

[Kalysto]

Yes, there are several mods that support moving slaves from and to PAH, like the succubus assistants mod in the nexus.

Basically is calling PAHCore.AddSlave() with the actor reference, I just need to punch the CK in the face so that it starts doing what I want instead of whining about references that cannot be casted as actors and stuff like that. And half of it I got to do it in SSEEdit because I have no idea how to assign a PAH quest reference into properties with the CK.

 

Anyway I'll continue tomorrow if I get some free time.

[Gukahn]

5 minutes ago, Kalysto said:

Yes, there are several mods that support moving slaves from and to PAH

So... If i understand you correctly, i could use this posted mods above without any care of the world and finally make Brynjolf mine my shit until he drops dead?

[DocClox]

Trying out the quest to train Kimli

 

 

I figure she's got to be in that line, somewhere.

 

 

Slightly more seriously, you might want to add Olava's niece's name to the journal entries for the quest. I just enslaved Agnis because I couldn't remember the name and the quest marker pointed at her. (And also her dialogue didn't trigger for some reason, but did once she was enslaved). Anyway, a reminder of the girl's name would have been useful

 

[edit]

 

I sort of feel like I should be able to hammer a "For Sale" sign into the ground at the head of the line, and attract passing slavers to whom I could sell the better trained girls. (I know, I know - way too much work for the relatively minor benefit, and I wouldn't do it anyway because I'm using my slaves to farm soul gems. Just a passing thought..._

 

[eedit]

 

Also... continuing the tradition of orcs from strongholds randomly crashing my training sessions...

 

 

I have no idea why they do this.

Edited March 23, 2022 by DocClox

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, DocClox said:

Trying out the quest to train Kimli

 

Slightly more seriously, you might want to add Olava's niece's name to the journal entries for the quest. I just enslaved Agnis because I couldn't remember the name and the quest marker pointed at her. (And also her dialogue didn't trigger for some reason, but did once she was enslaved). Anyway, a reminder of the girl's name would have been useful

 

 

Olava's doesn't bother to name her niece because that's how much she values her. It makes a small quest a bit more difficult and explains why she would let you enslave her with no remorse.

 

Agnis is the most tricky part of the quest. She is the person you should learn the niece name from. She just wants to chat, so you have to keep pressing "E" and listen to all her lines (maybe 6 of them) before you can actually talk to her. Another way around is to pickpocket the letter from her or kill her.

 

But it seems you discovered a new way to get the information from Agnis, enslave her! Without cloning I guess. Congratulations!

 

 

 

 

Edited March 23, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[Kalysto]

Well I'm hitting a wall trying to compile anything that uses PAHE.

Don't know if I'm passing the script properties correctly (needed to pass the PAH quest in order to call AddSlave) but it looks the same as in DOM_TouchSlaveHarder...

And then I tried compiling DOM_TouchSlaveHarder and also fails so I'm inclined to think that I have my compile setup messed up.

Had already extracted the script sources from the bsas of PAHE, racemenu nioverride, skyui and fnis. Don't know what else I'm missing.

Is PAH_MCM.psc suppossed to throw so many uninitialized property warnings?

Edited March 23, 2022 by Kalysto
disgusting grammar and clarity

[Gukahn]

 

So let's get this baby started..  (Only ideas how we could do it, nothing i write will be done by me cause i don't know how and have no time and intention to learn it right now.. Too tired after work for that ?)

 

Riverwood

Spoiler

Camilla

The idea of enslaving her is pretty simple, after doing the vanilla love letter quest, either Faendal or Sven could be angry enough to kidnap her. It shouldn't be a hard to beat cave, probably better to just let them stay in an abandoned house cell, even the basement of Anises Cabin could work. (nobody ever said that Anise couldn't be part of this crime.

You will "fail" the rescue of course.. You have your own plans for her ? Just kill the simp and get her (we all wanted to kill Sven.. Don't  lie to me he is one of the very, very few npc´s who isn't part of any overhaul i use.. There is a reason for that. )

Dialogue with Camilla could be look like this:
"You are here to rescue me?"

* Not.. Quite.. But this Collar on!*

pretty short yes.. But its just a rough idea. If i where to expand this.. Well the process of enslaving only one npc could be an entire mod. I have many ideas but no time to learn to mod them.. )

 

Sigrid

 

Tricky.. I really like her. But everyone likes her..

For this one i will borrow the rough idea of infamy, you need to get Alvor and Dorthe out of the way, she is rarely alone so to enslave her without getting into trouble (or in our case, with it to be more immersive.) We would need both of them gone for a while. You could either trigger this with Alvor, telling him how you know a good blacksmith you would love to show him something new, Dorthe will get with him so that she sees how other people live and learns something on the journy, i mean she is a little child, they need to see something different then their own little village. Both of them don't need to be anywhere really, just disabled and enabled after the deed is done. (or park them at the sleeping giant for all i care xD)

When she is alone, wait until she is home, break and enter = Done. We don't really need Dialogue for this, just a way to get her without bullshitting anything but for the sake of the idea: Starting the dialogue normally, she will say her catchphares (very important.)
"i am spoken for you know, don't get any ideas!"

Oooh i have some ideas, yes i do.. *Slap her face, put Collar on*
Now we can do it the hard way.. Or the really hard way..

From this point on: start the normal Pahe play we all know and love.. Just get out of the house before her family comes home.

Could be nice to have some aftermath with Alvor and Dorthe later, them telling you how Sigrid vanished and they are looking for her.

 

Gerdur:
really honest here.. I don't really care for Gerdur. Similar idea like Sigrid, just with her family of course.

 

 

Delphine:
Not possible without doing the main quest. When she gives you her ultimatum about Partysnax:

"Either you do what i say or the blades will never recognize you as Dragonborn!"
 I'm gonna show you who´s in charge!

= Done. After this point.. The blades are useless but very few ever kill the dragon to get a handfull of filler quests and the most useless faction in the game. If you would want, you could get the Sword out of her inventory. It's the only usefull thing she has to add.

 

 

 

 

Whiterun

Spoiler

Gonna ignore ventors, blacksmiths and important npc´s. Whiterun has way too many People worthy of the whip, would take me the whole evening to think about it..

 

Irileth

After dragon rising she becomes useless for the game.  Again i will borrow an idea of infamy, the duel.

Challenge her to a duel, go to a secure location where nobody is around or just very few people who can be ignored, probably best to get to where you capture the dragon like infamy did.

fight her, get her into bleedout and pahe her. Again not really a need for dialogue.

 

 

Isolda:
Now we talking How about a little roleplay with that one. Talk her into some bullshit about knowing a trader who really would love to know her better and share some secrets about it. Walk outside the city or wait until nightfall to meet her at her house with said "Trader."

Know this one is going to be fun because we have so much possibiltys with this. We could either really come with someone who will later help us or we come alone. Let's try the former. (how we get the other one.. Just let us use a follower or dress up the beggar of Whiterun.)

 

Let me introduce you two, this here is Trader and this *point to isolda* Is our new pet.

A Rape scene with the 3 of you starts, after the scene Isolda should be in bleedout or automatically enter pahe faction.

 

 

Aela:

Let's not.. If you not like me and doesn't have a mod to destroy the companions, actually join them.. We need her for that. ?

 

Ria:

Catch her somewhere outside of Jorvaskr. If you are with the companions you could do it inside but i don't find it desirable to join them anymore and we shouldn't be forced just to be immersive for that one. Ria is easy, talk her into some training, lie about how much you respect her and how much you would love to venture with you to some cave. Leave Whiterun, at this point she should just be following you without actually being a follower, go as far away as you would like, could actually do a cave with her.

Stop somewhere, turn around and talk

Finally far enough

"Far enough for what? Where is the cave you mentioned? and the bear, i wanted to kill a bear today!"
Oh i will show you a bear later.. For now.. Clench your teeth.

either a rapescene could happen here too, or she enters bleedout as if you punched her and gets enslaved.

 

Njada.

Hard to catch her outside of Jorvaskrr but i think the joints the training too. There isn't much about her that let me think she would follow you somewhere, neither is she naive like ria, nor does she likes you even if you are a companion. Lets lie again. Tell her you heard of some trouble and of how the other companions don't have time for it. Someone broke into your house in Whiterun, lead her to it and when you are alone with her:

"Where is the thieve! Did you.. Did you LIE TO ME YOU PISSANT?!"

I wouldn't say.. Lie it's just a hard word.. Let's say i twisted the truth about to get you alone.. Ria misses you and would love to see you again. (if we enslaved ria before her it makes sense, otherwise.. Just skip this kind of sentence from me. xD)

Bang another slave for your growing harem..

 

Olfina greymane

Oh i hate her. So much. We can't assume the entire clan leaves for the weekend without her so we can't break in again.. Fucks for Jon tho:

Both of them meet regularly outside of whiterun, follow them and break jons nose (or kill him. Killing him would be better for immersion so he can't snitch us out. )

"Jon!! Dovakiin no!!"
Dovakiin yes!  ?

Yeah a bit dumb but i really don't like her..

 

 

 

 

Maybe i will post some other ideas tomorrow, don't really want to writing to be the only thing i do after work?

[DocClox]

21 minutes ago, Kalysto said:

Don't know if I passing the script properties incorrectly (I needed to pass the PAH quest in order to call AddSlave) but it looks the same as in DOM_TouchSlaveHarder.

 

If another example would help, the Brand spell in the Slaver's Spellbook will enslave its target if they're eligible for enslaving.

 

1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

But it seems you discovered a new way to get the information from Agnis, enslave her! Without cloning I guess. Congratulations!

 

With, in fact.

 

 

 

On 3/16/2022 at 5:20 PM, pinky6225 said:

 

If you still have this save try loading it and selecting the stuck NPC's and using tai on the console (twice i think) as they will spring back to life if its a similar issue to what i've seen

 

Then it was due to the game spawning in a new NPC when i've already enslaved the NPC with the same base id, like i wiped out a stormcloak camp and enslaved the female soldiers, came back some time later after they've respawned and there was a couple doing the t-pose like that

 

I finally got back to Morvath's Lair and tried it. It worked to take them out of t-pose, but they were both dead on arrival. Turns out it was just two actors: the vampire naturalist from Pets of Skyrim and Alea Quintus from  the DB Abandoned Shack scene. (And I do have cloning on, else she'd not have died and Astrid wouldn't have given me her "overachiever" speech).

 

I do find respawning enemies in t-pose after I've wiped them out; I've got a couple in Morvath's Lair right now. This is something different.

 

(and now to try out the double tai trick on some t-posing vamps...)

Edited March 23, 2022 by DocClox

[TrollAutokill]

Version 2.7.6, progressing in small steps...

 

 - Correct Kimli voice files

 - Slap slave weapon for you to enjoy with your favorite slaves. It's more of a spank right now, and it gives a small humiliation boost.

 

[TrollAutokill]

53 minutes ago, Kalysto said:

Well I'm hitting a wall trying to compile anything that uses PAHE.

Don't know if I'm passing the script properties correctly (needed to pass the PAH quest in order to call AddSlave) but it looks the same as in DOM_TouchSlaveHarder...

And then I tried compiling DOM_TouchSlaveHarder and also fails so I'm inclined to think that I have my compile setup messed up.

Had already extracted the script sources from the bsas of PAHE, racemenu nioverride, skyui and fnis. Don't know what else I'm missing.

Is PAH_MCM.psc suppossed to throw so many uninitialized property warnings?

Post your error message. You're certainly missing a few source files.

[CliftonJD]

50 minutes ago, Kalysto said:

Had already extracted the script sources from the bsas of PAHE, racemenu nioverride, skyui and fnis. Don't know what else I'm missing.

SexLab SE, Zaz

51 minutes ago, Kalysto said:

Is PAH_MCM.psc suppossed to throw so many uninitialized property warnings?

no

55 minutes ago, Kalysto said:

And then I tried compiling DOM_TouchSlaveHarder and also fails so I'm inclined to think that I have my compile setup messed up.

Had already extracted the script sources from the bsas of PAHE

after extracting the source scripts from pahe, you've over-ridden anything dom related, so you need to start by trying regular pahe before attempting anything dom. once pahe works get the dom source files again later to make it connect with dom

[TrollAutokill]

39 minutes ago, DocClox said:

With, in fact

 

Ah that's because her baseID is used for the dialogue. Perfect.

[Kalysto]

Thanks both. I'll start again with that info and if something else acts up i'll post the error.

 

[Kalysto]

HOLY SHIT! Finally!!! Well I got nothing done yet but at least it compiles...

 

These where the ones I was missing:

- SkyUI SDK (from github, I was using the decompiled versions which are not good)

- UILIB_1.psc (dunno wtf isn't this file inside SkyUI SDK)

- SlaveTats (it places them "Source/Script" instead of "Scripts/Source")

 

Alright, alright, alright

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, Kalysto said:

HOLY SHIT! Finally!!! Well I got nothing done yet but at least it compiles...

 

These where the ones I was missing:

- SkyUI SDK (from github, I was using the decompiled versions which are not good)

- UILIB_1.psc (dunno wtf isn't this file inside SkyUI SDK)

- SlaveTats (it places them "Source/Script" instead of "Scripts/Source")

 

Alright, alright, alright

Isn't UILIB_1 source packed with DoM?

Edited March 23, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[Kalysto]

Yes in fact I took it from DOM because I don't know where that source file comes from.

 

I decided to create an absolute minimum MO2 profile that I will use to compile and since DOM so far wouldn't be a master yet, it got excluded from the list. Sorry -_-!

 

PAH.AddSlave() works so I will start making a simple scenario to check if anything else is needed. But it looks fine.

 

Anyway added DOM back to the compiling MO2 profile because I want to make sure everything works. At first it didn't compile but it was again SkyUI messing with me.

Edited March 23, 2022 by Kalysto

[深淵の神]

Is the "slave fighting back" a new addition? that caugh me off guard but I think this is pretty awesome and adds a new opportunity for combat training, I just enslaved the Kimly girl from the new quest and gave her some powerful enchanted weapon, all of a sudden the combat music started to play and she almost killed my PC in 1hit haha! I thought for a moment my Dolores fantasy it was coming true 

I think this is really good stuff actually ❤️

[CliftonJD]

4 hours ago, Kalysto said:

Yes in fact I took it from DOM because I don't know where that source file comes from.

 

I decided to create an absolute minimum MO2 profile that I will use to compile and since DOM so far wouldn't be a master yet, it got excluded from the list. Sorry -_-!

 

works so I will start making a simple scenario to check if anything else is needed. But it looks fine.

 

Anyway added DOM back to the compiling MO2 profile because I want to make sure everything works. At first it didn't compile but it was again SkyUI messing with me.

mostly depends on who you're "adding" to the system, some npc's can be added as is, but all the cleaning is done in "capture"

PAH.capture(target)

[Kalysto]

10 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

mostly depends on who you're "adding" to the system, some npc's can be added as is, but all the cleaning is done in "capture"

PAH.capture(target)

 

Alright I'll use PAH.Capture() for now. I did a quick quest to caught Hroki and works but definitelly needs spicying it up. Creating scenes like in Dovakiin Infamy looks scary difficult.

Edited March 24, 2022 by Kalysto

[kf05]

On 3/22/2022 at 4:57 PM, TrollAutokill said:

Version 2.7.5 is out with only small changes:

 

- Voiced Kimli, Olava and Agnis with xVAsynth. Kimli uses Vex voice. Feel free to try to tune the three lines from Kimli if you're an expert at xVAsynth.

 - Giving alcohol to slave now use gift menu from player inventory. Only Skyrim alcoholic beverages will be listed. If you have beverages from another mod you want to be added, you're welcome to suggest. Slaves will not try to drink from their own inventory (maybe later if we inject a bit of addiction).

It would be great if you could add "Blood Wine" from Immersive Wenches to the list of alcoholic beverages. Immersive Wenches is a popular Mod, so i guess quiete a few people

run it, and it would offer a workaround for People like myself who run a non-english Skyrim.

Edited March 24, 2022 by kf05

[TrollAutokill]

3 hours ago, サマエル said:

Is the "slave fighting back" a new addition? that caugh me off guard but I think this is pretty awesome and adds a new opportunity for combat training, I just enslaved the Kimly girl from the new quest and gave her some powerful enchanted weapon, all of a sudden the combat music started to play and she almost killed my PC in 1hit haha!

 

 

3 hours ago, サマエル said:

 

I thought for a moment my Dolores fantasy it was coming true 

I think this is really good stuff actually ❤️

Yes it's new and if they are wearing weapon and armor the chance is higher. Your story makes me realize I should add a bonus in the weapon damage maybe. So a wooden sword would be less prone to make a rebellious slave than a mighty warhammer.

 

There are a few downside/bugs to this slaves fighting back. Most often, the player or slave can get stuck in the infamous drawn weapon not in combat mode. Don't forget to report your bugs and we will try to improve.

[TrollAutokill]

34 minutes ago, kf05 said:

It would be great if you could add "Blood Wine" from Immersive Wenches to the list of alcoholic beverages. Immersive Wenches is a popular Mod, so i guess quiete a few people

run it, and it would offer a workaround for People like myself who run a non-english Skyrim.

Yes that's why the new system uses form id. And also because some slaves were trying to fool the player pretending to get drunk on scALEfish. ?I will have a look at immersive wenches beverages.