Prison Overhaul

[evilsabre]

 

Ah, the stolen gold (me unpaid up member of Thieves Guild).

 

I noticed the 666 ( ) processing fee but as it's added to the bounty which is discharged on release it doesn't do much. Maybe deduct it from pc's gold perhaps (as a fine)?

 

That is a good idea. Wasn't sure where that fee should go.

 

 

 

Just make sure it has a way to handle what happens when the player can't afford the fee wouldn't want to break the game with negative gold  

 

The way you make the broke player "pay" for the fee is entirely up to you although the eviler the better 

[Inte]

 

 

Ah, the stolen gold (me unpaid up member of Thieves Guild).

 

I noticed the 666 ( ) processing fee but as it's added to the bounty which is discharged on release it doesn't do much. Maybe deduct it from pc's gold perhaps (as a fine)?

 

That is a good idea. Wasn't sure where that fee should go.

 

 

 

Just make sure it has a way to handle what happens when the player can't afford the fee wouldn't want to break the game with negative gold

 

The way you make the broke player "pay" for the fee is entirely up to you although the eviler the better 

 

 

You have a devious mind.

I was just going to add whatever is left from the fee after payment to the bounty, but are you saying I should use DD's instead?

 

Muhahaha !

 

10g      PC gets  Arm Cufs,

100g                   Collar

500g                   Belt no plugs

1000g                Armbinder

.... so on.

 

Oh, that is too deviously delicious!

 

[evilsabre]

 

 

 

Ah, the stolen gold (me unpaid up member of Thieves Guild).

 

I noticed the 666 ( ) processing fee but as it's added to the bounty which is discharged on release it doesn't do much. Maybe deduct it from pc's gold perhaps (as a fine)?

 

That is a good idea. Wasn't sure where that fee should go.

 

 

 

Just make sure it has a way to handle what happens when the player can't afford the fee wouldn't want to break the game with negative gold

 

The way you make the broke player "pay" for the fee is entirely up to you although the eviler the better 

 

 

You have a devious mind.

I was just going to add whatever is left from the fee after payment to the bounty, but are you saying I should use DD's instead?

 

Muhahaha !

 

10g      PC gets  Arm Cufs,

100g                   Collar

500g                   Belt no plugs

1000g                Armbinder

.... so on.

 

Oh, that is too deviously delicious!

 

 

 

well the max is 666 so maybe just give the player an armbinder, blindfold, ring gag (so needs users aren't utterly destroyed), boots, corset and a collar. one item for every 100 gold they are off order yet to be determined maybe armbinder 1st since it doesn't require a key to escape. See now you leave the important parts of the ex -prisoner availible for use by the rest of the townsfolk

[Guest]

Belt without plugs is too much like a reward.

[evilsabre]

admittedly making PO require DD is prob not the smartest call in the world so maybe the jailer could just lock you in a pillory with a pay box next to it till earn the 666 gold for your release. That or you could lock the prisoner on some special furniture for an extra few hours i think zaz has racks, wheels, horses etc in it right?

[Inte]

admittedly making PO require DD is prob not the smartest call in the world so maybe the jailer could just lock you in a pillory with a pay box next to it till earn the 666 gold for your release. That or you could lock the prisoner on some special furniture for an extra few hours i think zaz has racks, wheels, horses etc in it right?

 

Actually I am using all of them in SD+ 2.0 + Patch. Master locks the Slave in a random one over night.

 

[roxcas]

hi dont know if this normal happen . i not long install your mod. prison overhaul ..  when my charater is  take to the stocks my charater will put their hand threw the holes but then the next min the stocks will disapear and my character just stands there. iv read the install about saves and load order . but even after i wipe all save and start fresh it still happen . what im i doin wrong. 

[evilsabre]

hi dont know if this normal happen . i not long install your mod. prison overhaul ..  when my charater is  take to the stocks my charater will put their hand threw the holes but then the next min the stocks will disapear and my character just stands there. iv read the install about saves and load order . but even after i wipe all save and start fresh it still happen . what im i doin wrong. 

 

what's your load order i had this once or twice and i think it was devious device event (normally plugs leading to a masturbation animation) going off overwriting the animation should fix when a PO event occurs as you'll locked back in then.

 

edit: make sure you have inte's patch though and if that's installed and its not the above i'm lost and useless for help at this point

 

Edit 2: 

 

 

admittedly making PO require DD is prob not the smartest call in the world so maybe the jailer could just lock you in a pillory with a pay box next to it till earn the 666 gold for your release. That or you could lock the prisoner on some special furniture for an extra few hours i think zaz has racks, wheels, horses etc in it right?

 

Actually I am using all of them in SD+ 2.0 + Patch. Master locks the Slave in a random one over night. 

 

 

nice now add these features to PO so we can humiliate even more player characters  

[Inte]

 

hi dont know if this normal happen . i not long install your mod. prison overhaul ..  when my charater is  take to the stocks my charater will put their hand threw the holes but then the next min the stocks will disapear and my character just stands there. iv read the install about saves and load order . but even after i wipe all save and start fresh it still happen . what im i doin wrong. 

 

what's your load order i had this once or twice and i think it was devious device event (normally plugs leading to a masturbation animation) going off overwriting the animation should fix when a PO event occurs as you'll locked back in then.

 

edit: make sure you have inte's patch though and if that's installed and its not the above i'm lost and useless for help at this point

 

Edit 2: 

 

 

admittedly making PO require DD is prob not the smartest call in the world so maybe the jailer could just lock you in a pillory with a pay box next to it till earn the 666 gold for your release. That or you could lock the prisoner on some special furniture for an extra few hours i think zaz has racks, wheels, horses etc in it right?

 

Actually I am using all of them in SD+ 2.0 + Patch. Master locks the Slave in a random one over night. 

 

 

nice now add these features to PO so we can humiliate even more player characters

 

 

I had Master from CD for a sleepover once.

 

[iamatoo]

hello everyone, just wondering, does this mod still leave traces on the saves ? or is it happening only if we disable the mod ?

[evilsabre]

hello everyone, just wondering, does this mod still leave traces on the saves ? or is it happening only if we disable the mod ?

 

 

Any scripted mod will normally leave some small trace on your save hence why the best policy is to make a save, install and test the mod out then if you don't like it uninstall and reload the pre install save. While the effect of removing a mod is normally not noticeable every time the now rogue scripts fire they can cause unexpected events (such as CTD's) . As for while its installed I've not noticed any major stability issues but those can differ greatly between users.

 

hope that helps if not inte/xaz can prob give you a better idea.

[iamatoo]

nah you helped thanks good day everyone 

[Slorm]

 

 

 

 

Ah, the stolen gold (me unpaid up member of Thieves Guild).

 

I noticed the 666 ( ) processing fee but as it's added to the bounty which is discharged on release it doesn't do much. Maybe deduct it from pc's gold perhaps (as a fine)?

 

That is a good idea. Wasn't sure where that fee should go.

 

 

 

Just make sure it has a way to handle what happens when the player can't afford the fee wouldn't want to break the game with negative gold

 

The way you make the broke player "pay" for the fee is entirely up to you although the eviler the better 

 

 

You have a devious mind.

I was just going to add whatever is left from the fee after payment to the bounty, but are you saying I should use DD's instead?

 

Muhahaha !

 

10g      PC gets  Arm Cufs,

100g                   Collar

500g                   Belt no plugs

1000g                Armbinder

.... so on.

 

Oh, that is too deviously delicious!

 

 

 

well the max is 666 so maybe just give the player an armbinder, blindfold, ring gag (so needs users aren't utterly destroyed), boots, corset and a collar. one item for every 100 gold they are off order yet to be determined maybe armbinder 1st since it doesn't require a key to escape. See now you leave the important parts of the ex -prisoner availible for use by the rest of the townsfolk

 

 

How about.... all the pc's goods are confiscated, the pc is then released to get the gold they owe (plus another processing fee). Once they can pay the fine then the pc gets all their items back.

 

This could be all slotted items but if it was everything it would get round the issue of losing quest items as they can always be re-acquired on payment (or leave only quest items in inventory)

[evilsabre]

 

 

 

 

 

Ah, the stolen gold (me unpaid up member of Thieves Guild).

 

I noticed the 666 ( ) processing fee but as it's added to the bounty which is discharged on release it doesn't do much. Maybe deduct it from pc's gold perhaps (as a fine)?

 

That is a good idea. Wasn't sure where that fee should go.

 

 

 

Just make sure it has a way to handle what happens when the player can't afford the fee wouldn't want to break the game with negative gold

 

The way you make the broke player "pay" for the fee is entirely up to you although the eviler the better 

 

 

You have a devious mind.

I was just going to add whatever is left from the fee after payment to the bounty, but are you saying I should use DD's instead?

 

Muhahaha !

 

10g      PC gets  Arm Cufs,

100g                   Collar

500g                   Belt no plugs

1000g                Armbinder

.... so on.

 

Oh, that is too deviously delicious!

 

 

 

well the max is 666 so maybe just give the player an armbinder, blindfold, ring gag (so needs users aren't utterly destroyed), boots, corset and a collar. one item for every 100 gold they are off order yet to be determined maybe armbinder 1st since it doesn't require a key to escape. See now you leave the important parts of the ex -prisoner availible for use by the rest of the townsfolk

 

 

How about.... all the pc's goods are confiscated, the pc is then released to get the gold they owe (plus another processing fee). Once they can pay the fine then the pc gets all their items back.

 

This could be all slotted items but if it was everything it would get round the issue of losing quest items as they can always be re-acquired on payment (or leave only quest items in inventory)

 

 

hmm not entirely sure i normally dislike removing items but if you use the vanilla jail removal options it could work i'd still prefer devices or getting locked in some furniture for another night. 

[Slorm]

 

hmm not entirely sure i normally dislike removing items but if you use the vanilla jail removal options it could work i'd still prefer devices or getting locked in some furniture for another night. 

 

 

I guess it depends on how you like to play. I personally like mods to have some consequences (like DCL giving you a slave collar or custom harness in the middle of a long dungeon, oops no armour ) so to me prison shouldn't only be about the pc having a good time with randy guards but have a little bite as well

 

Probably best as something optional though.

 

[evilsabre]

 

 

hmm not entirely sure i normally dislike removing items but if you use the vanilla jail removal options it could work i'd still prefer devices or getting locked in some furniture for another night. 

 

 

I guess it depends on how you like to play. I personally like mods to have some consequences (like DCL giving you a slave collar or custom harness in the middle of a long dungeon, oops no armour ) so to me prison shouldn't only be about the pc having a good time with randy guards but have a little bite as well

 

Probably best as something optional though.

 

 

 

I'm all for consequences but the consequence would only happen when you had less than the fee so less than 666 gold so late game when you want more consequences you will never notice it but early on when you pickpocket sucks and you keep getting caught you'll be potentially getting the trigger often. This means the part of the game that is the most fun becomes insanely challenging but this challenge fails to exist later on in the late teen lvls onwards. + loosing your weapons + armour matters alot to fighters/archers but barely effects mages, ultimately skewing the game balance.

[Slorm]

 

I'm all for consequences but the consequence would only happen when you had less than the fee so less than 666 gold so late game when you want more consequences you will never notice it but early on when you pickpocket sucks and you keep getting caught you'll be potentially getting the trigger often. This means the part of the game that is the most fun becomes insanely challenging but this challenge fails to exist later on in the late teen lvls onwards. + loosing your weapons + armour matters alot to fighters/archers but barely effects mages, ultimately skewing the game balance.

 

 

Agree on the mages but I don't think it would be that hard on fighters particularly, I'd view it as more of an inconvenience.

 

I always start using LAL (having removed all spells) and Skyrim Bound so start with a naked pc with a few DD items fitted and it's pretty easy to mug a bandit unarmed to get some equipment. Forsworn are doable as well but they are tricky to take out without a few tries (hunters, not dual wielders they kill you in seconds).

 

[evilsabre]

 

 

I'm all for consequences but the consequence would only happen when you had less than the fee so less than 666 gold so late game when you want more consequences you will never notice it but early on when you pickpocket sucks and you keep getting caught you'll be potentially getting the trigger often. This means the part of the game that is the most fun becomes insanely challenging but this challenge fails to exist later on in the late teen lvls onwards. + loosing your weapons + armour matters alot to fighters/archers but barely effects mages, ultimately skewing the game balance.

 

 

Agree on the mages but I don't think it would be that hard on fighters particularly, I'd view it as more of an inconvenience.

 

I always start using LAL (having removed all spells) and Skyrim Bound so start with a naked pc with a few DD items fitted and it's pretty easy to mug a bandit unarmed to get some equipment. Forsworn are doable as well but they are tricky to take out without a few tries (hunters, not dual wielders they kill you in seconds).

 

 

 

Guess it depends on the set up i run perma + combat evolved so early game unblocked attacks are almost certain to risk dropping me below 30% and procing defeat.

[Ooyama_ST]

Awesome mod, thank you for your work and for share it!

Sadly I figured out that the mod don’t work whit my old character, when I surrender to guards or trigger the minor or major crime punishment in MCM my character just stay quiet and nothing happens.

I am unable to move until I load a previous save, and in most cases that’s lead the game to crash.

The same happens if I skip the walking scene in MCM and teleport to the prison.

The only solution that I found here is starting a new game, after that everything works great… Well, except walking on the stairs, my character sometimes gets stuck and won’t move, but after some time the character got teleported close to the jailer. Strange, but it fixes all.

My question is; there is a way to make the mod work with my old character?

P.S. English is my 3^rd language, sorry for any grammatical mistakes.

[iamatoo]

sorry to bother but, if i install v0.33 fix, shall i disable v0.32 or just put 0.32 before 0.33 in MO install and load order ?

[The Jazz Man]

sorry to bother but, if i install v0.33 fix, shall i disable v0.32 or just put 0.32 before 0.33 in MO install and load order ?

 

the OP for the 5b patch says it includes everything in the other patches.... so delete the earlier versions and just use this one.

 

{edit}

hang on, just reread your post, it looks like you are talking about XPO itself, in which case delete XPO v32 and install XPO v33.fix

I know it is called "fix" but it is really the full version of the mod, I think XAZ was having trouble uploading it or something and ended up calling the new version "v33.fix".

I can understand how that could be confusing, but if you read back about 49787527 pages, you would see the explanation.

 

BTW, recommend installing the 5b patch by INTE. it adds a lot of stuff that XAZ has not had time to do of late, just install it over XPOv33.fix

good luck

[Karma199696]

hi...

 

i have a couple new strange issues with the latest version of the mod... i don't know if anybody already had the same problems...  too many posts to read all of them... sorry

 

1) the wipping scene, both at the pillory and in the cell, nevre ends...  sex and other things last the time i set in MCM (usually 40 sex.) while wipping continues for ever...  until i use the task manager to kill the game... didn't find any other way to stop it...  at the moment i set the wipping possibility to 0 in order to keep playing but i love beong wipped (well, not in real life, LOL ) so, if anybody knows what might be the problem... i would appreciate

 

2) after a scene at the pillory, sometimes (but not always) the pillory disappears and i find myself standing on place, unable to move or doing anything, yet not tied to the pillory or anything else...

 

both issue happened in Riften and Solitude, up to now... (maybe i will try other holds in the future)

 

thanks

[Sathar]

hi...

 

i have a couple new strange issues with the latest version of the mod... i don't know if anybody already had the same problems...  too many posts to read all of them... sorry

 

1) the wipping scene, both at the pillory and in the cell, nevre ends...  sex and other things last the time i set in MCM (usually 40 sex.) while wipping continues for ever...  until i use the task manager to kill the game... didn't find any other way to stop it...  at the moment i set the wipping possibility to 0 in order to keep playing but i love beong wipped (well, not in real life, LOL ) so, if anybody knows what might be the problem... i would appreciate

 

Regarding this, apparently the whipping scene runs until your health is low.  I'm running Requiem plus appropriate patches, and with the prisoner collar providing constant healing, my health bar never goes down (though my magicka and stamina rapidly deplete).  The quickest way I found to "fix" this is to use the console to hurt myself -- I open the console ("~") and type player.damageav health 75 (use a number that leaves you will low health, but doesn't kill you or trigger Death Alternative if you're using it).  The collar will quickly heal you back up to full, and the whipping scene will end.

 

Edit:  It sounds like the patch on the previous page is a better answer.  Wish I knew about it while I spent a buggy 2+ hours real time rotting in the Windhelm dungeon yesterday.

[iamatoo]

thanks jazz man for your help, i've downloaded 5b patch too just to be sure

[Karma199696]

 

hi...

 

i have a couple new strange issues with the latest version of the mod... i don't know if anybody already had the same problems...  too many posts to read all of them... sorry

 

1) the wipping scene, both at the pillory and in the cell, nevre ends...  sex and other things last the time i set in MCM (usually 40 sex.) while wipping continues for ever...  until i use the task manager to kill the game... didn't find any other way to stop it...  at the moment i set the wipping possibility to 0 in order to keep playing but i love beong wipped (well, not in real life, LOL ) so, if anybody knows what might be the problem... i would appreciate

 

Regarding this, apparently the whipping scene runs until your health is low.  I'm running Requiem plus appropriate patches, and with the prisoner collar providing constant healing, my health bar never goes down (though my magicka and stamina rapidly deplete).  The quickest way I found to "fix" this is to use the console to hurt myself -- I open the console ("~") and type player.damageav health 75 (use a number that leaves you will low health, but doesn't kill you or trigger Death Alternative if you're using it).  The collar will quickly heal you back up to full, and the whipping scene will end.

 

Edit:  It sounds like the patch on the previous page is a better answer.  Wish I knew about it while I spent a buggy 2+ hours real time rotting in the Windhelm dungeon yesterday.

 

 

thanks for answering...  i'll try the patch and if it doesn't work, i'll try your method

the secondo problem is less annoying... only have to wait for the next event to trigger and the pillory comes back

 

-------------------------------- Update -------------------------------------

 

tried the patch and setting the max time there worked... 

 

luckily !!  since i think your method wouldn't work... for some reason, my health doesn't go down when i get wipped... i have 180 of health when i start getting wipped and i still have 180 afted 60 seconds of wipping... seems i'm supergirl and i never new i was !

 

thanks anyway for helping pointing me to the new patch that i had missed !