TWO - Total Werewolf Overhaul

[LordDrakath15226]

Any future additions planned for the bodyslide? Cause damn, is it barebones. 

 

6 hours ago, Gonzeh said:

1st off... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, where have the big bouncy boobs gone *cries* (lucky for me I use unique player which let's me use a completely separate WW model just for myself and I converted the female from your old edition with new higher res textures and working physics just for my player char, even got the nipple placement corrected by editing the UV :D).

 

The update definitely works a lot better now though. No crashing with MNC, ABC and SOS installed. Being able to swap the schlong to the ABC one by simply selecting MNC in CF is a welcome addition.  

 

I use Hentai Creatures to make it quick and easy to spawn WWs. Issues i've noticed so far:

 

Appears to be double ears on the male WW (possibly double head).

Female model spawns fine but swaps out to the MNC female model when aroused (Again, double ears, it's putting your updated head on top of the default MNC female when aroused). 

 

Further to looking at the above... ABC overwrites MNC for the males, which your MOD then overwrites ABC which means the males are fine because ABC puts males in that folder but doesn't touch the female model.

 

Females are built to meshes\actors\werewolfbeast\character assets\ BUT MNC stores the female model in meshes\MoreNastyCritters\werewolf which means as soon as the female becomes aroused MNCs model takes over due to CFs files expecting that location for females.

 

Very bottom of my LO for testing purposes. Overwriting MNC, ABC and SOS. Built the bodies in BS no issue.

 

Screenshot included showing overwrites, as you can see the female model doesn't conflict with anything which normally would be fine but anyone who uses MNC is going to run into issues when aroused states kick in. Hope all this helps.

 

 

Mind sharing your Edit?

Edited August 30, 2022 by LordDrakath15226

[Frosferes]

7 hours ago, Martok73 said:

But I really would like to know if the texture variation replacement process from Diverse Werewolves and the Player version is compatible or does this mod use the same texture for all the werewolves like it does in vanilla?

 

Currently TWO can only replace all werewolf textures doesn't support any existing skin system like diverse werewolves, but I plan on implementing such a system.

[Frosferes]

4 hours ago, LordDrakath15226 said:

Any future additions planned for the bodyslide? Cause damn, is it barebones. 

 

Yes the Bodyslide will be expanded. I am open to suggestions for sliders to add.

[XarisZ]

Is there a 6breast option for the female WW?

[Frosferes]

2 hours ago, XarisZ said:

Is there a 6breast option for the female WW?

 

I have yet to reimplement this. It says so in the mod description.

[XarisZ]

4 hours ago, Frosferes said:

 

I have yet to reimplement this. It says so in the mod description.

Ah right. Sorry im blind.

[TheDethToad]

Do I need to change which skeleton bodyslide uses when building the male/female for this? Recently installed HIMBO and learned that was a thing for it's bodyslides. Great work so far.

[Martok73]

11 hours ago, Frosferes said:

 

Currently TWO can only replace all werewolf textures doesn't support any existing skin system like diverse werewolves, but I plan on implementing such a system.

Ok, good to know it's an upcoming feature, thanks, will follow the progress and look forward to trying it out once it's implemented.

[rb888]

Can't wait try out 6 breast ;.)

[LordDrakath15226]

Oh yeah, can i still use the Wicked skeleton?

[Frosferes]

7 hours ago, TheDethToad said:

Do I need to change which skeleton bodyslide uses when building the male/female for this? Recently installed HIMBO and learned that was a thing for it's bodyslides. Great work so far.

 

This shouldn't be a problem. Or at least it didn't come up in testing as one. Also thanks!

 

4 hours ago, LordDrakath15226 said:

Oh yeah, can i still use the Wicked skeleton?

 

Try this. It will probably interfere with some animations like the HCOS idles though.

 

TWO - Wicked Werewolves.7z

[LordDrakath15226]

Anyone managed to get this working with unique character/ unique player? Cause when i tried transforming i get this before it switches to the MNC futa model:

 

Ok, managed to fix the switching models and invisibility but i have the headless problem and double penises:

Edited August 31, 2022 by LordDrakath15226

[veronos]

I've been trying to troubleshoot before posting, as I originally thought it was a conflict between TWO and UniqueCharacter, but I've now learned that Monster Facial Animation is actually causing the headless bug for me now. Even with no other werewolf mod or unique character mod installed, I'm still getting the headless bug with MFA. Anyone got any idea on what could be causing it? Their Nexus page is scant with info.

 

I've also noticed that if I install the Werebeast only vanilla file, my player goes completely invisible. Even when TWO is enabled and winning file conflicts.

Edited August 31, 2022 by veronos

[Gonzeh]

If your head is invisible. Try going into the ESP using SSEedit and changing the BOD2 - Biped Body Template to show the Head, Body and Tail under Armor Addon - ucwolf and Armor - UC

 

Chances are you don't have it setup as Unique comes with just Body enabled but TWO uses a separate head mesh not build into the main body Nif. 

 

Edited August 31, 2022 by Gonzeh
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[LordDrakath15226]

7 hours ago, Gonzeh said:

If your head is invisible. Try going into the ESP using SSEedit and changing the BOD2 - Biped Body Template to show the Head, Body and Tail under Armor Addon - ucwolf and Armor - UC

 

Chances are you don't have it setup as Unique comes with just Body enabled but TWO uses a separate head mesh not build into the main body Nif. 

 

 

Yeah, that didn't work.

[Frosferes]

21 hours ago, LordDrakath15226 said:

Anyone managed to get this working with unique character/ unique player? Cause when i tried transforming i get this before it switches to the MNC futa model:

 

@veronos I've never used unique player mods. Looking at the screenshot from @Gonzeh Unique Character will likely not be compatible with TWO without a patch. If you send me the plugin I could see if I can patch it.

 

You are also getting double penises because both SOS and CF are active at the same time. You need to disable one or the other for werewolves.

[LordDrakath15226]

37 minutes ago, Frosferes said:

 

@veronos I've never used unique player mods. Looking at the screenshot from @Gonzeh Unique Character will likely not be compatible with TWO without a patch. If you send me the plugin I could see if I can patch it.

 

You are also getting double penises because both SOS and CF are active at the same time. You need to disable one or the other for werewolves.

 

Here: Unique Player 3.0.esp and by both active you mean on CF or in general? Cause i need SOS. 

[TheSnack]

Hey, so i also have the missing body issue,

however i also have something real messed up going on in my main Load order...

 

My female Werewolf is actually using the Male body, and has all messed up textures...

Also would be great to know if there will be a fix to the missing head to download or anything.

 

[Frosferes]

1 hour ago, LordDrakath15226 said:

Here: Unique Player 3.0.esp and by both active you mean on CF or in general? Cause i need SOS. 

 

I'm gunna need the master files 'High Poly Head.esm' and 'Racial Body Morphs.esp' as well. You will need to pick either CF or SOS to handle werewolf dicks. The female werewolf CF dicks are still a work in progress so you're probably better removing the herm patch if it is installed, disabling werewolves on page 4 of the CF MCM and letting SOS handle them.

 

25 minutes ago, TheSnack said:

Also would be great to know if there will be a fix to the missing head to download or anything.

 

The fix is most likely to read the installation instructions.

Edited September 1, 2022 by Frosferes

[LordDrakath15226]

10 minutes ago, Frosferes said:

 

I'm gunna need the master files 'High Poly Head.esm' and 'Racial Body Morphs.esp' as well. You will need to pick either CF or SOS to handle werewolf dicks. The female werewolf CF dicks are still a work in progress so you're probably better removing the herm patch if it is installed, disabling werewolves on page 4 of the CF MCM and letting SOS handle them.

 

 

The fix is most likely to read the installation instructions.

 

Here: High Poly Head.esmRacial Body Morphs.esp

[Frosferes]

34 minutes ago, LordDrakath15226 said:

Here: High Poly Head.esmRacial Body Morphs.esp

 

It looks like this mod you're using does not touch werewolves whatsoever. You've most likely installed TWO incorrectly. Please see the part of the install guide related to plugin load order.

[veronos]

I'm having a separate issue from Drakath, and one that's just downright weird. With all unique character mods, all other werewolf mods (including TWO) being uninstalled, Monster Facial Animations (MFA) is causing a headless bug. You can see in the screenshot it's only affecting the female player model, and that the mod is also changing their body mesh. According to MO2 there are no overwrites or conflicts at all that touch these files except MFA. I even tried to see if monsterlipsync1.esp was having some sort of conflict through SSSedit.

 

 If I reinstall TWO (following the load order instructions and installation guide), the male models work completely, and the female models regain their genitals but their heads are still missing.

Edited September 1, 2022 by veronos

[Frosferes]

10 minutes ago, veronos said:

 If I reinstall TWO (following the load order instructions and installation guide), the male models work completely, and the female models regain their genitals but their heads are still missing.

 

It looks like you have not loaded Werewolves.esp and the other plugins from TWO in the right place. These bodies and headparts are from MFA. Please check your plugin load order. Also check you have no skin system like Diverse Werewolves Collection or Moonlight Tales enabled.

Edited September 1, 2022 by Frosferes

[veronos]

1 hour ago, Frosferes said:

 

It looks like you have not loaded Werewolves.esp and the other plugins from TWO in the right place. These bodies and headparts are from MFA. Please check your plugin load order. Also check you have no skin system like Diverse Werewolves Collection or Moonlight Tales enabled.

 

 

With werewolves.esp and its accompanying plugins loaded after MFA, these are my results. Nipples/genitals return but head is still missing for the female model.  Moonlight Tales is uninstalled and I ran this on a fresh save just to be sure.  I'm wondering if there is some unknown incompatibility with a mod, but MO2 says that TWO is winning all conflicts and I have no other werewolf mods installed.

Edited September 1, 2022 by veronos

[LordDrakath15226]

53 minutes ago, Frosferes said:

 

It looks like this mod you're using does not touch werewolves whatsoever. You've most likely installed TWO incorrectly. Please see the part of the install guide related to plugin load order.

 

No, i did exactly as written with Werewolves and it's plugins at the bottom of the others, does Werewolves need to be bellow it's plugins?