TWO - Total Werewolf Overhaul

[Frosferes]

@veronos@LordDrakath15226 The things to check are as follows: There are no file conflicts. That Werewolves.esp followed by the other TWO plugins are loading after all other relevant mods. That all merged patches aren't being used or have been properly updated. That CF is properly updated from the in game MCM or disabled (at least for werewolves) and all other skin systems like Moonlight Tales and DWC are disabled.

 

Beyond this, the only things I can suggest are check your mod versions are correct for your Skyrim/SKSE, backup your profile and disable all but the essential mods for TWO to work, then re-enable blocks of mods until you narrow down what is breaking it. If there is a hidden conflict somewhere then I would be grateful to know about it so I can find a workaround.

[veronos]

1 hour ago, Frosferes said:

@veronos@LordDrakath15226 The things to check are as follows: There are no file conflicts. That Werewolves.esp followed by the other TWO plugins are loading after all other relevant mods. That all merged patches aren't being used or have been properly updated. That CF is properly updated from the in game MCM or disabled (at least for werewolves) and all other skin systems like Moonlight Tales and DWC are disabled.

 

Beyond this, the only things I can suggest are check your mod versions are correct for your Skyrim/SKSE, backup your profile and disable all but the essential mods for TWO to work, then re-enable blocks of mods until you narrow down what is breaking it. If there is a hidden conflict somewhere then I would be grateful to know about it so I can find a workaround.

 

Okay, SO it's finally fixed. I made a fresh new profile, restarted the entire steps of installation. After reinstalling a lot of the base pre-reqs (Creature Framework and its dependencies) the only thing that I changed was the fact I downgraded Faster HDT-SMP to 1.36. It started working immediately after that, I switched back to my actual profile and it's working flawlessly. If anyone else has any issues like this, I'd just try and reinstall Creature Framework and maybe try downgrading Faster HDT-SMP(?) And I have found no evidence of any further incompatibility. 

 

Excellent work on the mod btw, I love the options. And ty for the support.

Edited September 2, 2022 by veronos

[LordDrakath15226]

11 minutes ago, veronos said:

 

Okay, SO it's finally fixed. I made a fresh new profile, restarted the entire steps of installation. After reinstalling a lot of the base pre-reqs (Creature Framework and its dependencies) the only thing that I changed was the fact I downgraded Faster HDT-SMP to 1.36. It started working immediately after that, I switched back to my actual profile and it's working flawlessly. If anyone else has any issues like this, I'd just try and reinstall Creature Framework and maybe try downgrading Faster HDT-SMP(?) And I have found no evidence of any further incompatibility. 

 

Excellent work on the mod btw, I love the options. And ty for the support.

 

Yeah, it worked for me too except that the female genitalia gets weird:

 

I'll try to see if downgrading Faster HDT-SMP to 1.36 will fix it.

Edited September 2, 2022 by LordDrakath15226

[Cyphering]

so I downloaded this mod and straight afterwards my female argonian player character has no body at all, and it's only just her

[Shaloria]

6 hours ago, TheSnack said:

Hey, so i also have the missing body issue,

however i also have something real messed up going on in my main Load order...

 

My female Werewolf is actually using the Male body, and has all messed up textures...

Also would be great to know if there will be a fix to the missing head to download or anything.

 

 

For the body issue, you have to disable Moonlight tales appearance system.  Equip the Ancient Ring and disable appearance customization.

[Smerg_the_Dargon]

Hey - what's the sheath in the third shown image? It looks really damn good. I'd like to get things set up with that.

[Frosferes]

8 hours ago, LordDrakath15226 said:

I'll try to see if downgrading Faster HDT-SMP to 1.36 will fix it.

 

Did it help? I have seen similar issues in previous versions related to SMP. If this is a problem for some users then it's one or a combination of three things: 1: the FSMP version itself is bugged (seems unlikely as I have just tested the current latest version 1.44 myself with no problem), 2: the wrong Skyrim version or options were selected during install or 3: it's some faulty hardware interaction. I would like to investigate further.

 

8 hours ago, Cyphin said:

so I downloaded this mod and straight afterwards my female argonian player character has no body at all, and it's only just her

 

Did you install the WIP herm player werewolf addon? If so, did you read the warning associated with it?

 

5 hours ago, Smerg_the_Dargon said:

Hey - what's the sheath in the third shown image? It looks really damn good. I'd like to get things set up with that.

 

This shape is originally from ASOS. If you want to use it then either uninstall CF or make sure it is disabled for werewolves and use the SOS module in the downloads list. If you're using a non-standard SOS addon you will need to make sure it is compatible with werewolves and manually replace the werewolf genitals meshes for that addon with the ones in that download.

[akendorf]

10 hours ago, veronos said:

 

Okay, SO it's finally fixed. I made a fresh new profile, restarted the entire steps of installation. After reinstalling a lot of the base pre-reqs (Creature Framework and its dependencies) the only thing that I changed was the fact I downgraded Faster HDT-SMP to 1.36. It started working immediately after that, I switched back to my actual profile and it's working flawlessly. If anyone else has any issues like this, I'd just try and reinstall Creature Framework and maybe try downgrading Faster HDT-SMP(?) And I have found no evidence of any further incompatibility. 

 

Excellent work on the mod btw, I love the options. And ty for the support.

 

Well, I don't know how did you find this out but downgrading Faster HDT-SMP does fix the issue regarding invisible head.

 

Since this issue was so strange I did some test though, and SMP version of 1.38~1.43 has no problem showing the werewolf heads.

Everything else in this mod(excluding herm/urta player werewolf patch, didn't pick the option to install this one) from body physics and moving headparts does work even with SMP 1.44.

 

I'm using AE though, and perhaps this SMP 1.44 changelog

• fix: fix the "invisible bug" and the "displaced head parts bug" on AE

has something to do with the bug. (I don't really know anything about how SKSE extension files work though, so maybe not)

[TheSnack]

5 hours ago, akendorf said:

 

Well, I don't know how did you find this out but downgrading Faster HDT-SMP does fix the issue regarding invisible head.

 

Since this issue was so strange I did some test though, and SMP version of 1.38~1.43 has no problem showing the werewolf heads.

Everything else in this mod(excluding herm/urta player werewolf patch, didn't pick the option to install this one) from body physics and moving headparts does work even with SMP 1.44.

 

I'm using AE though, and perhaps this SMP 1.44 changelog

• fix: fix the "invisible bug" and the "displaced head parts bug" on AE

has something to do with the bug. (I don't really know anything about how SKSE extension files work though, so maybe not)

Yeah ive got everything working by now too and boiled it down to it being SMP.

Just gonna follow this thread till theres a solid solution to that.

 

Btw, great mod. Now that i can appreciate it i cant wait for things to work out.

[veronos]

10 hours ago, Frosferes said:

 

Did it help? I have seen similar issues in previous versions related to SMP. If this is a problem for some users then it's one or a combination of three things: 1: the FSMP version itself is bugged (seems unlikely as I have just tested the current latest version 1.44 myself with no problem), 2: the wrong Skyrim version or options were selected during install or 3: it's some faulty hardware interaction. I would like to investigate further.

 

 

Just to provide some posterity in case it helps you in developing the mod, I made sure my Faster-SMP installation was identical in Skyrim version (AE) and options. When using 1.36 with identical options, it works just fine. Re-upgrading to 1.44 causes the headless bug to happen again. Though it seems like people above me have also fixed it by messing with their Faster-SMP versions.  I think Creature Framework people also mentioned that they were having issues with newer versions of FSMP awhile ago, which is why I tried downgrading in the first place.

Edited September 2, 2022 by veronos

[LordDrakath15226]

Kind of a shame i can't use the futa patch as of now since that's how i play.

[veronos]

4 hours ago, LordDrakath15226 said:

Kind of a shame i can't use the futa patch as of now since that's how i play.

 

Frostferes posted a TRX patch awhile ago in this thread. Use that with TRX, install the TWO SoS patch, replace the werewolf_genital meshes in the TRX patch with the ones found in the TWO patch, and disable CF from handling werewolves. Fully functional.

[LordDrakath15226]

12 hours ago, veronos said:

 

Frostferes posted a TRX patch awhile ago in this thread. Use that with TRX, install the TWO SoS patch, replace the werewolf_genital meshes in the TRX patch with the ones found in the TWO patch, and disable CF from handling werewolves. Fully functional.

 

Yeah, that worked, thanks.

 

 

Bit of a reach but speaking of werewolves, anybody ever experienced your character just dying every time you switch back to human? Seems to be related to defeat or dayol but i couldn't find anything in the mcms.

 

Edit: Nevermind, that's from the normal game, lol.

Edited September 3, 2022 by LordDrakath15226

[Frosferes]

I've asked one of the developers of FSMP to confirm this bug and see if there is going to be a fixed update released. For the time being the solution seems to be use a pre-1.44 version of FSMP if you are playing Skyrim AE. Futa player werewolf will work correctly for the CF when I figure out how to fix the bugged interactions between the patch and SMP (yes it's also causing issues there).

[pipinosgr]

Is there a LE version of it?

[Lilith.Monstrum]

Does this mod work with Aela when she turns in the Underforge and using mods like Amazing Follower Tweeks?

[Smerg_the_Dargon]

On 9/2/2022 at 5:52 AM, Frosferes said:

This shape is originally from ASOS. If you want to use it then either uninstall CF or make sure it is disabled for werewolves and use the SOS module in the downloads list. If you're using a non-standard SOS addon you will need to make sure it is compatible with werewolves and manually replace the werewolf genitals meshes for that addon with the ones in that download.

Neat, thanks. It looked really good - wish the CF version had that functionality.

[Frosferes]

On 9/3/2022 at 10:52 PM, pipinosgr said:

Is there a LE version of it?

 

Not officially, but if you use the LE equivelant of the requirements, install TWO and run Cathedral Assets Optimiser over the TWO mod folder it might work. I wasn't sure if there was enough of a demand to make an LE version.

 

On 9/4/2022 at 2:04 PM, Lilith.Monstrum said:

Does this mod work with Aela when she turns in the Underforge and using mods like Amazing Follower Tweeks?

 

Should do.

 

On 9/4/2022 at 8:03 PM, Smerg_the_Dargon said:

Neat, thanks. It looked really good - wish the CF version had that functionality.

 

So do I. For the time being the two approaches are incompatible. Though in the long term I would like to make new meshes and auxbones that bridge the gap.

[incesikurity]

I don't really know if this mod is working or not. At least HDT part. I tried v3 and v4 and for some reason v3 have more options. But I can't really try it because even when I see that skin is changing on Aela, when my female character is transforming I have male werewolf. I know it's not the issue with the mod per se, but maybe someone have a solution? I read here that it might be problem with moonlight, but only Werewolf mod I have is sexlab werewolf redux.

[Arphila]

 

Any idea what's causing the ear to bug out like this?

Also happened for the male as well.

[LordDrakath15226]

23 minutes ago, Arphila said:

 

Any idea what's causing the ear to bug out like this?

Also happened for the male as well.

 

What's your fsmp version?

[Arphila]

16 minutes ago, LordDrakath15226 said:

 

What's your fsmp version?

 

1.44

 

After looking around it seems as though the newest version of FSMP causes issues. Downgrading to 1.42 fixed it, so sorry for bugging x)

[incesikurity]

10 hours ago, incesikurity said:

I don't really know if this mod is working or not. At least HDT part. I tried v3 and v4 and for some reason v3 have more options. But I can't really try it because even when I see that skin is changing on Aela, when my female character is transforming I have male werewolf. I know it's not the issue with the mod per se, but maybe someone have a solution? I read here that it might be problem with moonlight, but only Werewolf mod I have is sexlab werewolf redux.

I I know where problem was. Now the question:
How do I made TWO work with Unique Character?

[LordDrakath15226]

8 hours ago, incesikurity said:

I I know where problem was. Now the question:
How do I made TWO work with Unique Character?

 

Drop the textures and meshes from this mod in the correct folders in Unique Character.

[BEND0GG0]

Hey; sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do I make the sheath texture from the SOS add-on match the fur color ?

I tried using CF to handle those bits, but since it simply wouldn't show in MCM no matter how hard I tried, SOS it is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯