JustMe469 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 17 hours ago, Hex Bolt said: Book Collection Idea Thoughts on this concept? I think it's a great idea! Add me to the "Yes, please" list for this. 😃 Many have already commented with some great insight and ideas. As far as writing, my thoughts are 1) I think you are very capable of doing this and not needing to try AI for it. 2) Reading a long story in Skyrim is something many people won't do. The stories need to be quite short, which makes it difficult to create real substance. The forbidden bookshelf for example has stories that are good but overly long and I just skimmed over them. 3) Asking others to write comes with the issue you noted, as well as the problem of continuity. You might get one good one from a person then one or two from another, but they probably wouldn't match well. Maybe just ask for basic ideas then make them your own? Although I do believe you're full of many ideas of your own already. Anunya listed some good ideas above about adding a small radiant quest to get books. Also, great ideas on giving the books to Master, and after Master has read them. I really like that progression. In particular I liked ... "That was a great read. Really inspiring." [Master has a higher baseline arousal and now requires sex more times a day than usual for the next several days] Some thoughts of my own, off the top of my head: With each book Lola reads, maybe she gets horny and has an orgasm on the spot. If each book has a specific topic, it would be possible for Master to ask if Lola really likes the topic and do something based on the response. Much like you said about adding more zap events (probably just short term though). Prostitution, being naked, confessions, all come to mind in addition to the pain one. If a playmate is used, perhaps before Master is given the book, the playmate can ask to read it first. It would give them a temporary increase to being horny and cause them to ask/demand sex.
Hex Bolt Posted July 3 Author Posted July 3 (edited) 5 hours ago, JustMe469 said: With each book Lola reads, maybe she gets horny and has an orgasm on the spot. That's evil. It's too much from a mundane book (and these are non-magical), but I could raise your exposure to 100 and let you deal with that. When gifted, the owner might receive a smaller increase. 5 hours ago, JustMe469 said: Reading a long story in Skyrim is something many people won't do. The stories need to be quite short, which makes it difficult to create real substance. The forbidden bookshelf for example has stories that are good but overly long and I just skimmed over them. Those books range from 4100 characters (Chastity Belts) to 33,200 (Chastised), so there's a wide range. If you use the Take Notes! mod, journal entries are limited to 4000 characters. With default font, on my PC, that's just over 6 pages. A book displays 2 pages at a time, so that's just over 2 page turns (potentially 4 for 6000 characters). I took some time to try writing one of my ideas as short story. It's around 4600 characters, and it turned out better than I'd expected. It's fun and playful, with a dash of peril, the right tone at least for what I'd hoped. 21 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said: I only use the vanilla setting for the in-game font, and stumbling through that is a drag. I'm a fast reader in normal circumstances, but reading in Skyrim feels to be back at primary school, struggling with every sentence. Yeah, the font is fine for notes, but for the lore books I just read the posted text at the uesp.net site. For better readability (and more characters per page), I could use the alternate system font that I'd recommended to Laura for her Message from the Author: Spoiler 5 hours ago, JustMe469 said: If each book has a specific topic, it would be possible for Master to ask if Lola really likes the topic... The ideas that I have so far involve more than one device (gags are common in bondage scenes). Certainly for the first iteration, the books would be treated equally other than tracking which ones were read. 5 hours ago, JustMe469 said: If a playmate is used, perhaps before Master is given the book, the playmate can ask to read it first. It would give them a temporary increase to being horny and cause them to ask/demand sex. Playmates are tricky, because they can become owners, and vice versa. If she's read a book as a playmate, she won't be very impressed with it as a gift as your owner, and we can't give a playmate the owner's benefit without allowing two "uses" of the book. Edited July 3 by Hex Bolt
Hex Bolt Posted July 3 Author Posted July 3 (edited) Okay, 4600 characters became 5200 with better description, but it's still well within the target range. I decided to finish one of the story ideas, a mix of the popular highwayman and bound in the woods themes. I'd sketched it out in past tense, which is usually best for most storytelling, but present tense works better here for immediacy. SPOILER of possible future content. Spoiler Walking home from a shopping trip to the village, as is her routine for this day of the week, Matilda hums to herself. Young, buxom, and pretty, with golden hair that gleams in the sun, she's never given a thought to the dangers. She's traveled this route many times. Her soft boots scuff to a stop on the path as a masked highwayman leaps out of concealment, startling her out of her reverie. Though slender of build and hardly taller than Matilda, the robber uses the advantage of surprise to quickly subdue her. Without a word, he binds her hands and feet with nimble fingers, then gags her and drags her off the road. Her abductor takes her to a secluded clearing in the woods, where he places a sack over her head before attaching ropes to her wrists and ankles. She feels herself being pulled to her feet, then stripped. When the sack comes off, she finds herself naked, secured between two trees, her panties still around one ankle. She's never worn a gag before. She drools around this one. It's simple, rope knotted into a ball wrapped with cloth, but it's effective. "Mmmph!" She can't speak, can't close her mouth, and can't stop drooling! As he carefully examines the contents of her travel sack, she frets about how he's going to use her. His silence is unnerving. The minutes stretch on until a sound startles the robber. Someone is approaching. With her stuff strewn on the ground for examination, he has no time to gather it up before fleeing. The newcomer is a man carrying a woodcutter's axe. His sleeveless tunic reveals powerful arms. "What's this? Matilda?" It's the smith's apprentice, the handsome guy she's never had the courage to flirt with. Whenever she's tried, she gets flustered, blushes, and runs off. How many nights has she pleasured herself in bed, imagining herself in those strong arms? She's embarrassed beyond words for him to see her like this. But why is he just staring at her? Is he grinning?! She makes noises around the gag and struggles, but that only causes her breasts to sway in a way that draws his eye. "I suppose a hero would gallantly cover you and free you without thought of reward." He gazes at her. "But I'm no hero." He steps close and fondles her breasts. "And you're not exactly an innocent damsel, are you?" She's flustered as a moan escapes around her gag. "Whenever you visit the smithy, your bodice laces have always conveniently come loose at the top, so these almost fall out. Yes, they're as nice as those teasing hints suggested: supple, but firm and bouncy." He's touching and squeezing her however he pleases! He can't just do that! It's not right, and it's distracting. Very distracting. "Mmmph!!" She tries to pull away, but the ropes won't allow it. He moves behind her and rubs a hand between her legs. "Definitely no damsel. You shake your head no, but your body says yes." He smears a wet hand along her thigh. "Care to explain that?" So embarrassing. Hey! Was that the sound of a belt buckle? And, and, the rustle of trousers??? She gasps as he enters her, quickly and easily. "Oh ho! You're ready and eager, Matilda!" Shit. She'd wanted to coyly entice him, make him pursue her, work for it, win her favor with flowers and ... OH! He hadn't been all the way in yet. Gods, he's huge! The romance she'd wanted has jumped right to his fucking her like a slut, fulfilling her sweaty bedtime fantasies. Her friend Anna likes to say, "Seize the day, don't delay!" But this is rushing ahead so much! The tension of the ropes holds her securely, but not painfully. There's no room to be bashful, no way to avoid the inevitable. The bondage is actually -- liberating? She finds herself moving into his thrusts. Feels. So. Good. She needs the ropes' support when she climaxes, waves of pleasure leaving her body to hang limp as she sucks in air around the gag. "Damn, Matilda, so eager? I wasn't ready yet." He increases his pace and finishes a dozen thrusts later. She can feel it inside her. He'd taken her, and she'd welcomed it. This has been so much more intense than anything she'd dreamed. Afterwards, when he frees her, he turns around so she can dress without his eyes on her. She sneaks a long peek at him as he pulls on his tunic. This guy is built! A small aftershock of pleasure makes her gasp as she remembers those strong hands gripping her hips. "So, that robber didn't get any of your stuff?" It was true. He had spent a lot of time sorting through her bags, laying her stuff out on the grass, never getting the chance to molest her. Until SOMEONE ELSE did it. Feeling very awkward, especially with him smiling at her roguishly, she changes the subject. A woman's prerogative. "This place isn't visible from the road. How did you happen to come by here before, um..." "Before we had our fun? Don't pretend you didn't enjoy every minute, naughty girl." He shrugs. "A customer buying some rope told me I should come out here after my shift, something about a stump of rare ebonwood." "It was your friend Anna." If I continue with these, it will probably be past tense with narration, but I might experiment with deep point of view (used for about half of adult novels) for my other idea, because it's in a single location with mostly the protagonist. Edited July 3 by Hex Bolt 8
Hex Bolt Posted July 3 Author Posted July 3 (edited) 6 hours ago, SkyAddiction said: You have a few moments that are, "huh, yeah, that's AI...", but it really does mostly read true. Use this as an outline for your own writing, and you're going to get some good prose. Write your own stuff. You don't need help, and people will appreciate it more. Well, that's awkward, because what I posted is 100% me. No AI used, not even for outline or concept. If what I write is indistinguishable from something that software can crank out in seconds, the hours invested (and it was hours) don't seem worthwhile. Perhaps a simple "Use your imagination" text in the books will suffice. I'll probably go ahead and keep this one, since it's done. I just need to add the detail that the highwayman was masked and hooded for story reasons. It's easy to miss details when translating a mental picture into words. Edited July 3 by Hex Bolt
IBAGadget Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Anna, that little tramp! She set her up! Please continue this, I want to know what happens next.
Hex Bolt Posted July 3 Author Posted July 3 32 minutes ago, IBAGadget said: Please continue this, I want to know what happens next. Oh, these were intended to be self-contained short stories that could be read in any order, since the books would appear randomly, so there is no continuation.
IBAGadget Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 minute ago, Hex Bolt said: Oh, these were intended to be self-contained short stories that could be read in any order, since the books would appear randomly, so there is no continuation. This has so much potential though. Even if it doesn't continue in the mod, I really think you should continue this story thread anyway. Mathilda exploring the release of bondage - she no longer has to worry about being coy, or mustering the nerve to approach. Bound in private, she is free to embrace her desires. Confronting Anna in private, accusing Anna of setting her up. Perhaps Anna speaks too easily of how liberating bondage feels. Feeling herself getting aroused at Anna's words, in a effort to stop them Mathilda uses her scarfe to gag Anna, which only makes things worse as Anna starts to squirm and moan in Mathilda's grasp. so much possibility 1
SkyAddiction Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hex Bolt said: Well, that's awkward, because what I posted is 100% me. No AI used, not even for outline or concept. If what I write is indistinguishable from something that software can crank out in seconds, the hours invested (and it was hours) don't seem worthwhile. Perhaps a simple "Use your imagination" text in the books will suffice. I'll probably go ahead and keep this one, since it's done. I just need to add the detail that the highwayman was masked and hooded for story reasons. It's easy to miss details when translating a mental picture into words. Ignore that, I somehow cross-posted that when it was supposed to be a response to someone else entirely. On Discord. I'm an idiot this week. I write offline and copy-paste, particularly when I'm tired. Sometimes a person should just shut the hell up, get some sleep, and respond in the morning. I should probably do that more often. Edited July 3 by SkyAddiction 1
Herowynne Posted July 4 Posted July 4 11 hours ago, Hex Bolt said: Well, that's awkward, because what I posted is 100% me. No AI used, not even for outline or concept. If what I write is indistinguishable from something that software can crank out in seconds, the hours invested (and it was hours) don't seem worthwhile. Perhaps a simple "Use your imagination" text in the books will suffice. I'll probably go ahead and keep this one, since it's done. I just need to add the detail that the highwayman was masked and hooded for story reasons. It's easy to miss details when translating a mental picture into words. The story was great, @Hex Bolt ❤️ You are quite talented. I'm sure that writing stories like that is a lot of work, but your fans would certainly appreciate it, if you choose to continue. 1
Hex Bolt Posted July 4 Author Posted July 4 (edited) 4 hours ago, SkyAddiction said: Ignore that, I somehow cross-posted that when it was supposed to be a response to someone else entirely. Okay, thanks for the clarification. If your post on Discord had mentions of sex & bondage (where there was none), that would be embarrassing. 11 hours ago, IBAGadget said: Even if it doesn't continue in the mod, I really think you should continue this story thread anyway. That's like some of the story blogs on this site. (I used to enjoy the adventures of Cassidey, but that one hasn't been updated for a few years.) Maybe someone would like to continue Matilda's story in a blog. I probably won't do that.* The idea behind the books is that each would be a self-contained scene that makes sense when read in any order. Being separate, they're free to feature different characters in various situations and do something fun without having to fit established characters or storyline. I'll keep it in mind, but the intent was independent stories. * I might write Anna's side of the story sometime if I have nothing better to do. For obvious reasons, it couldn't fit into the book series if there's any chance of seeing them out of order. There are plenty of clues, but I do have a clear idea of what she was doing when she's not seen. She's a good friend. 39 minutes ago, Herowynne said: I'm sure that writing stories like that is a lot of work, but your fans would certainly appreciate it, if you choose to continue. Yeah, it took longer than I'd expected, especially considering the short length. I only have one other idea right now, a quite different scene but with the same playful theme, a little peril, and a happy ending. If I were to write that one, it would be simpler and probably shorter than yesterday's post. Edited July 4 by Hex Bolt
Polyleritae Posted July 4 Posted July 4 20 hours ago, Hex Bolt said: Okay, 4600 characters became 5200 with better description, but it's still well within the target range. I decided to finish one of the story ideas, a mix of the popular highwayman and bound in the woods themes. I'd sketched it out in past tense, which is usually best for most storytelling, but present tense works better here for immediacy. SPOILER of possible future content. Hide contents Walking home from a shopping trip to the village, as is her routine for this day of the week, Matilda hums to herself. Young, buxom, and pretty, with golden hair that gleams in the sun, she's never given a thought to the dangers. She's traveled this route many times. Her soft boots scuff to a stop on the path as a masked highwayman leaps out of concealment, startling her out of her reverie. Though slender of build and hardly taller than Matilda, the robber uses the advantage of surprise to quickly subdue her. Without a word, he binds her hands and feet with nimble fingers, then gags her and drags her off the road. Her abductor takes her to a secluded clearing in the woods, where he places a sack over her head before attaching ropes to her wrists and ankles. She feels herself being pulled to her feet, then stripped. When the sack comes off, she finds herself naked, secured between two trees, her panties still around one ankle. She's never worn a gag before. She drools around this one. It's simple, rope knotted into a ball wrapped with cloth, but it's effective. "Mmmph!" She can't speak, can't close her mouth, and can't stop drooling! As he carefully examines the contents of her travel sack, she frets about how he's going to use her. His silence is unnerving. The minutes stretch on until a sound startles the robber. Someone is approaching. With her stuff strewn on the ground for examination, he has no time to gather it up before fleeing. The newcomer is a man carrying a woodcutter's axe. His sleeveless tunic reveals powerful arms. "What's this? Matilda?" It's the smith's apprentice, the handsome guy she's never had the courage to flirt with. Whenever she's tried, she gets flustered, blushes, and runs off. How many nights has she pleasured herself in bed, imagining herself in those strong arms? She's embarrassed beyond words for him to see her like this. But why is he just staring at her? Is he grinning?! She makes noises around the gag and struggles, but that only causes her breasts to sway in a way that draws his eye. "I suppose a hero would gallantly cover you and free you without thought of reward." He gazes at her. "But I'm no hero." He steps close and fondles her breasts. "And you're not exactly an innocent damsel, are you?" She's flustered as a moan escapes around her gag. "Whenever you visit the smithy, your bodice laces have always conveniently come loose at the top, so these almost fall out. Yes, they're as nice as those teasing hints suggested: supple, but firm and bouncy." He's touching and squeezing her however he pleases! He can't just do that! It's not right, and it's distracting. Very distracting. "Mmmph!!" She tries to pull away, but the ropes won't allow it. He moves behind her and rubs a hand between her legs. "Definitely no damsel. You shake your head no, but your body says yes." He smears a wet hand along her thigh. "Care to explain that?" So embarrassing. Hey! Was that the sound of a belt buckle? And, and, the rustle of trousers??? She gasps as he enters her, quickly and easily. "Oh ho! You're ready and eager, Matilda!" Shit. She'd wanted to coyly entice him, make him pursue her, work for it, win her favor with flowers and ... OH! He hadn't been all the way in yet. Gods, he's huge! The romance she'd wanted has jumped right to his fucking her like a slut, fulfilling her sweaty bedtime fantasies. Her friend Anna likes to say, "Seize the day, don't delay!" But this is rushing ahead so much! The tension of the ropes holds her securely, but not painfully. There's no room to be bashful, no way to avoid the inevitable. The bondage is actually -- liberating? She finds herself moving into his thrusts. Feels. So. Good. She needs the ropes' support when she climaxes, waves of pleasure leaving her body to hang limp as she sucks in air around the gag. "Damn, Matilda, so eager? I wasn't ready yet." He increases his pace and finishes a dozen thrusts later. She can feel it inside her. He'd taken her, and she'd welcomed it. This has been so much more intense than anything she'd dreamed. Afterwards, when he frees her, he turns around so she can dress without his eyes on her. She sneaks a long peek at him as he pulls on his tunic. This guy is built! A small aftershock of pleasure makes her gasp as she remembers those strong hands gripping her hips. "So, that robber didn't get any of your stuff?" It was true. He had spent a lot of time sorting through her bags, laying her stuff out on the grass, never getting the chance to molest her. Until SOMEONE ELSE did it. Feeling very awkward, especially with him smiling at her roguishly, she changes the subject. A woman's prerogative. "This place isn't visible from the road. How did you happen to come by here before, um..." "Before we had our fun? Don't pretend you didn't enjoy every minute, naughty girl." He shrugs. "A customer buying some rope told me I should come out here after my shift, something about a stump of rare ebonwood." "It was your friend Anna." If I continue with these, it will probably be past tense with narration, but I might experiment with deep point of view (used for about half of adult novels) for my other idea, because it's in a single location with mostly the protagonist. Oooh, this is fun! I hope this is not presumptuous of me to suggest, but writing smutty work is a hobby of mine. I'd be happy to try to help! If you'd rather not have someone else involved, then I certainly understand - no offense taken!
SkyAddiction Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said: Okay, thanks for the clarification. If your post on Discord had mentions of sex & bondage (where there was none), that would be embarrassing. I keep this and other forums above that channel for a reason. What's crazy is how well the reply worked (I was talking to an aspiring writer about AI use).
Hex Bolt Posted July 4 Author Posted July 4 12 hours ago, Polyleritae said: I hope this is not presumptuous of me to suggest, but writing smutty work is a hobby of mine. I'd be happy to try to help! Let me see how the rest of this stuff goes right now. I want to finish the other planned content for the next update, and the books are becoming a distraction. And just setting expectations on that, it's not a big release, but it does have 3 fixes, and I'd like to get those out (4, counting the little one that CaptainJ03 reported about redressing). 2
Polyleritae Posted July 4 Posted July 4 2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said: Let me see how the rest of this stuff goes right now. I want to finish the other planned content for the next update, and the books are becoming a distraction. And just setting expectations on that, it's not a big release, but it does have 3 fixes, and I'd like to get those out (4, counting the little one that CaptainJ03 reported about redressing). Understood! Best of luck, and please don't work yourself to death - take your time!
cvonb Posted July 4 Posted July 4 FYI I've been adding a bunch of stuff and fixes on top of your mod, in case you want to incorporate any https://github.com/SomeGameStuff/nefaram-files/tree/main/lola-expanded-addons https://github.com/SomeGameStuff/nefaram-files/tree/main/Lola DOM Handler Patch
shimemiya Posted July 4 Posted July 4 I've got an issue: whenever I restart my submission, there's a brand-new quest marker with an additional objective. What's going on here?
Hex Bolt Posted July 5 Author Posted July 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, shimemiya said: I've got an issue: whenever I restart my submission, there's a brand-new quest marker with an additional objective. It seems that the previous objective didn't get cleared when the quest ends. I should be able to fix it, but for now you'll have to just ignore it by unselecting Submissive Lola as one of your actively tracked quests. Edit: Fixed now for the next update. It looks like this was a problem for a long time. Edited July 5 by Hex Bolt 1
CaptainJ03 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 5 hours ago, Hex Bolt said: It seems that the previous objective didn't get cleared when the quest ends. (...) It looks like this was a problem for a long time. For years now. I don't even remember when I first mentioned multiple quest markers 😎
Hex Bolt Posted July 5 Author Posted July 5 12 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said: For years now. I don't even remember when I first mentioned multiple quest markers 😎 And see, it got fixed! 😊 I might not have known how to fix it at the time. This was a sneaky problem. The fix will prevent new markers from accumulating, but unfortunately, it won't remove existing ones. 1
dlombu Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) On 7/2/2026 at 12:36 PM, Hex Bolt said: Perhaps someone can recommend a free AI that will do better. If can feed an AI some story ideas and get something useful, the books could have stories. Regarding uncensored free LLMs for smutty writing, surprisingly, xAI (Grok) is the best of the lot. It's very good at kinky stuff and doesn't preach at you. Edited July 6 by dlombu
ChibiUser Posted July 6 Posted July 6 On 7/2/2026 at 5:33 AM, Hex Bolt said: I don't have any specific plans for this. The vibrating piercings from this mod shouldn't induce orgasms on their own (other than the forced orgasm event), because they only trigger when you're below a threshold*. I guess if you set the threshold to 100 you'd get that, but the idea is just to keep you above 20 or so. * Okay, DD's vibration event can do it, but I recommend setting that to zero so you're only getting stimulated by the owner. There is a vibrating device that I made for my own use, but it doesn't (and is not intended to) leave the wearer stuck at high arousal. It's nothing particularly unusual, though, and it doesn't prevent orgasms, just a bit of fun for one specific owner. On this note, I did have a suggestion for punishment at lower levels. Since you can also get send to this mod through simple slavery. Eg. at low scores, you can get put in chastity with a plug or plugs. After all, you're not behaving, so let's add some incentive. I am thinking that this could then lead to the pc asking about it, where, if you're still low score, the owner simply remarks that it seems to be working and that, if you want out/relied, you should maybe try and do a little better?
Hex Bolt Posted July 6 Author Posted July 6 7 hours ago, ChibiUser said: Eg. at low scores, you can get put in chastity with a plug or plugs. After all, you're not behaving, so let's add some incentive. I have an item on my list for something with extra devices at negative score, where you're likely resisting. 1
LetsTestThis Posted July 7 Posted July 7 (edited) On the topic of long running minor bugs: I have had an issue for multiple versions now where the variation of the spanking quest where you have to ask a guard applies no spanking buff or debuff. Is this intended? If it is intended I'd like to petition for it to be changed as I personally find it rather annoying as I usually try to get the exp multiplier prior to crafting sessions in town and the guard variation appars to have no cooldown potentially leading to multiple failed attempts to get the buff. On a separate note the "report statistics" dialogue at the end of prostitution never seems to count any blowjobs. Do note that I am not using Radiant Prostitution but rather the inbuilt system. Edited July 7 by LetsTestThis fixed typo
serph90 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Regarding ideas for the books you can give to your master and the possible consequences. Maybe they can open up scenarios not included in the mod, like roleplaying scenarios at home with heavy bondage. Maybe with the option to have the player actually control those events (give this particular book to master in order to have this scenario happening), so that it respects the mod intentions to not interrupt the gameplay too much
Hex Bolt Posted July 7 Author Posted July 7 (edited) 4 hours ago, LetsTestThis said: I have had an issue for multiple versions now where the variation of the spanking quest where you have to ask a guard applies no spanking buff or debuff. Is this intended? It is intended. You only gain the spanking buff if the spanker's relationship rank is Friend or better. Anyone less than a friend doesn't do a good job. With regard to game balance, since there's no cooldown, it would be an automatic buff whenever you like if there are no conditions. So, if you've befriended a guard, that one can give you the buff. It's worked this way since September 2022. I have a release note for around that time, "Fixed guard spanking not starting". I can add a chance for the relationship rank to increase to Friend when you ask a guard for a spanking. After a while, he might start to enjoy your visits. Another route that's available now is to let the guard have you during the Sample the Merchandise event. The chance of making a friend increases with your enthusiasm, and it's guaranteed if the guard has never been your client before. 4 hours ago, LetsTestThis said: On a separate note the "report statistics" dialogue at the end of prostitution never seems to count any blowjobs. Do note that I am not using Radiant Prostitution but rather the inbuilt system. The animation has to have the "Blowjob" tag to be counted as such. Typically, those animations do have that tag. It's needed to distinguish it from other oral sex acts. I'm pretty sure I saw this work recently. I use Radiant Prostitution, but that shouldn't matter. The script just checks animation tags. Edited July 7 by Hex Bolt
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