Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

48 minutes ago, lcewolf said:

I like the ring you have add. It's a nice new way to start the quest.  I am curious did the ring actually block some option except I don’t want to be a slave anymore? Did it add new replica, block or add answer to «Request» of your Master/Mistress?

Wearing the ring blocks the topic to ask to end enslavement.  It also hides the defiant responses.  You can still be unenthusiastic or say that you don't like something, but you can't refuse a command.  You gain new, spontaneous lines to say to NPCs, things like "Being a slave is best for me".  Those lines are optional, never forced.  It's like those times when you speak before thinking, perhaps revealing more about yourself than you'd understood before.  Afterwards, your character might think, "Why did I say that?", but in time it should feel natural.  Those lines have a cooldown of several hours, so you might only see them a couple of times a day.

 

54 minutes ago, lcewolf said:

If I can do a suggestion it would be cool if a messenger would deliver the ring with a letter. Add a concept to start the quest and a reason to actually wear the ring. 

The ring is a reward for doing a quest.  If you receive the ring at the start, it's not a reward and the quest is diminished.  I added the Dangerous Thoughts feature to take the place of the ring in the earlier stage, before you become a slave.  When you read the Submissive Lola book (or start the quest via the MCM), you'll begin having thoughts about becoming a slave.  That's the effect that reading the book has on you.  So, it does guide you in the right (well, submissive) direction, but the ring is better because it's a reward.  The book can be found in all five walled cities, so there are immersive ways to start your journey without a courier.

 

1 hour ago, lcewolf said:

Also I think the idea in most of this mod are based on choosing voluntary slavery so It should respect that.

I want to support involuntary content too, so there's the slave auction start, but yes, the ring will always be voluntary and beneficial, because the original Lola was voluntary.

[lcewolf]

52 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

The ring is a reward for doing a quest.  If you receive the ring at the start, it's not a reward and the quest is diminished.  I added the Dangerous Thoughts feature to take the place of the ring in the earlier stage, before you become a slave.  When you read the Submissive Lola book (or start the quest via the MCM), you'll begin having thoughts about becoming a slave.  That's the effect that reading the book has on you.  So, it does guide you in the right (well, submissive) direction, but the ring is better because it's a reward.  The book can be found in all five walled cities, so there are immersive ways to start your journey without a courier.

 

I want to support involuntary content too, so there's the slave auction start, but yes, the ring will always be voluntary and beneficial, because the original Lola was voluntary.

Oh maybe I found an unwanted result in that case.

 

When I spawn or pickup the ring in my inventory and wear it the the quest start without have read any book.

I have liked the idea and since you have surprise me many time in the past I thought It was a wanted result or work in progress.

 

It is what give me the idea of the courrier. I found this new alternative idea of starting the quest quite attractive. No book, no auction, not way out of public whore. Just an inherance from a dear one which was probably some with a history of submission.

 

I tought you were working on a new alternate way to start the quest.

Thank you for your continuous work. Year after year this mod become expanded with new stuff, quest and ...

 

In all case I don't want to take to mush of your time.

[blahity]

I do like the idea of the ring being delivered via letter of inheritance and it awakening something in the PC.

[Hex Bolt]

10 minutes ago, lcewolf said:

When I spawn or pickup the ring in my inventory and wear it the the quest start without have read any book.

That's because you're cheating.    You're only supposed to receive the ring through the dragon bone quest, when you're already a slave.  The ring has scripts attached to it, so equipping it will start the Strong Hand quest if it's not running.  The main effect of that (if you're not a slave) is to start the Dangerous Thoughts process.  That's exactly the same as if you'd read the book with Dangerous Thoughts enabled in the MCM, except you now have a free ring with a unique +5 Speechcraft bonus (you can't get a speech bonus on any vanilla ring), so your game is now easier with better bartering and persuasion checks, without having to do anything to earn it.

 

Also, you'll receive a second ring (that won't benefit you) when you complete that part of the dragon bone quest.  Oh look, a second unique Shieldmaiden's Ring!  There's less reason to even do the quest if you already have the best item that it gives.  It's like eating dessert before the meal.

 

I think it's best to wait for the reward.

 

41 minutes ago, lcewolf said:

It is what give me the idea of the courrier. I found this new alternative idea of starting the quest quite attractive. No book, no auction, not way out of public whore. Just an inherance from a dear one which was probably some with a history of submission.

 

Couriers can be fun, but Submissive Lola can't do that without the risk of breaking immersion.  What if, because of your background, you don't have any relatives or friends, or what if you just arrived here from another plane (Sanguine's Realm?) or a portal from another world?  If this mod tells you about a "dear one" who can't realistically exist, that spoils your story.  And then there's the problem that Elisif has a second ring for you that's supposed to be unique.  Receiving the ring early spoils the quest and hands the player a magic ring for no effort.

 

More importantly, this mod is designed to be very light on processing when you're not enslaved.  A player might play for a hundred hours before becoming a slave.  If the quest hasn't started, this mod isn't doing anything, no script load.  Much nicer than those mods that slow down your game as soon as you install them, right?  It's best if this mod is not running scripts in the background to determine when and how a courier will arrive just to support an optional start.

 

It's best to just find a book, or click the MCM button to receive a copy, or give yourself one and pretend that an NPC gave it to you (Ysolda maybe?) to start your thoughts about submission and what it would be like to become a slave.  You don't need a ring for that.

[CaptainJ03]

9 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

The book can be found in all five walled cities

Oh, I'm only aware of Riften, Solitude, and Whiterun. So there's none in the Arcaneum? Bugger.

 

7 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

It's like eating dessert before the meal.

Life's short, eat dessert first!

[Hex Bolt]

16 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Oh, I'm only aware of Riften, Solitude, and Whiterun. So there's none in the Arcaneum? Bugger.

Silverblood Inn and Candlehearth Hall.  I could probably add one to The Arcanaeum (good luck finding it among all those books, though).

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I could probably add one to The Arcanaeum (good luck finding it among all those books, though).

Just an idea, as DDs are a prerquisite for this mod: You could add it to the Forbidden Bookshelf. Although I fear it's too much hassle adding to another mod's content.

[LiHua34]

Really love the domestic missions, it's simple and immersive. 

It will be great to have more domestic missions in future updates, such as laundry.

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, LiHua34 said:

Really love the domestic missions, it's simple and immersive. 

It's weird how much tastes differ. I absolutely hate them and was so glad when Hexbolt introduced the toggle 😜

[Hex Bolt]

6 hours ago, LiHua34 said:

Really love the domestic missions, it's simple and immersive. 

It will be great to have more domestic missions in future updates, such as laundry.

 

4 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

It's weird how much tastes differ. I absolutely hate them and was so glad when Hexbolt introduced the toggle 😜

 

Some people love them, others hate them.  They help reinforce your subservient role, and it's nice that the owner recognizes when you enter a home or an inn, but tastes vary, so they're optional.

 

I wouldn't mind adding new ones, but there are significant limitations on what is practical.  I have to work with existing animations, preferably without having players install another mod.  Events have to work in any home (or inn), including ones added by mods.  I appreciate suggestions, but I'm not sure how a laundry event would work, not without requiring an outside mod.

[IBAGadget]

I have Domestic events turned off, moreso because I don't want to have to turn my character into a walking restaurant of ingredients in order to make a meal when we're still an hour away from the nearest inn. Easy enough to pack around a few bottles of wine, mead, and ale, but much more difficult to source and pack around a ton of ingredients required to make a meal. Doubly difficult when you are suffering from the auto-exit workshop bug, which has been plaguing me for the last couple playthroughs.

 

Now to figure out how to get my Mistress to recognize when I'm in the middle of an animation so she doesn't beckon to me and get pissed off, then punish me and add more time (what do you want now, woman? can't you see I'm in the middle of whoring myself out for you like you asked?)

Edited June 21 by IBAGadget

[JustMe469]

Here's an idea for another errand. You come to a town and Master says "I lent some money to someone here long ago, I don't remember their name. You should ask around and get my money back for me. You want to make me happy, don't you? Use your 'talents' if you have to, just get my money back." You start asking random people if they owe Master some money. Maybe you get lucky on the first attempt, maybe you don't. "Excuse me, do you owe my Master a debt of money?" The incorrect people can just say no, or they can say "No, but you look like fun. Wouldn't it be great to return to your Master with extra money? I'll give you (10) septims if you have sex with me." You can accept, or decline of course, but it really might make Master happy that you worked hard to get extra money. The correct person might say "Oh my, yes I do. It was long ago. Here take this back to your Master." Or maybe they'd say "Well it was long ago and I just don't feel like I should pay it now" which gives you the option to persuade the person, or to offer sex. No doubt the persuasion will likely fail and poor Lola will have to use her 'talents' to get what Master wants. Once the deed is done the person can give Lola maybe (5) septims! All that for 5 septims??? I guess Master will be quite pleased if Lola went the extra mile with the other people and collected a worthwhile amount of gold. Or not... 

And on returning to Master, perhaps Lola has the option to keep the extra gold and not say anything or be a devoted sub and offer it all to Master. Maybe it will earn her some praise.

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, JustMe469 said:

Here's an idea for another errand.

I'll note the idea, but as described it's fairly similar to the Pony Express event without the outfit.  Also, if I were Lola, after the first time and seeing how this plays out, I'd run off, wait a bit, then return and hand over 5 septims of my own, much easier than all that effort for a few coins.

[Hex Bolt]

19 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Just an idea, as DDs are a prerquisite for this mod: You could add it to the Forbidden Bookshelf. Although I fear it's too much hassle adding to another mod's content.

Thank you for this suggestion.  Adding a Submissive Lola book to the Forbidden Bookcase would have been ideal, except that it risks a conflict any other mod does that (I'd be surprised if no Devious mod has added to the bookcase's contents).  I can't easily add the book by script, either, because the bookcase wasn't set to be a persistent record (and there's no need for it to have been).

 

I settled for placing a copy on the table directly across from the bookcase, as if someone had taken it out and left it there instead of returning it where it belongs.  No vanilla records were changed.  It's behind the wine bottles, so it's not extremely obvious for the librarian to notice it ("Huh, who left this out?"), but it's still visible when you walk by.

[blahity]

Placing a copy of the book around one of the "fonts of magic" in the quarters might work too.

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Adding a Submissive Lola book to the Forbidden Bookcase would have been ideal, except that it risks a conflict any other mod does that (I'd be surprised if no Devious mod has added to the bookcase's contents)

I know of two mods, The Forbidden Tome and Devious Deviants SE, that pick up the abandoned DD quest.

Placing it on the table just opposite is the far safer place!

[shrtjsrtj]

14 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I wouldn't mind adding new ones, but there are significant limitations on what is practical.  I have to work with existing animations, preferably without having players install another mod.  Events have to work in any home (or inn), including ones added by mods.  I appreciate suggestions, but I'm not sure how a laundry event would work, not without requiring an outside mod.

I think there's an animation for getting water from rivers in the base game and collecting water was a pretty common chore in ye olden days. No idea how you could make it work well in Lola though.

[ChibiUser]

Is there a way to reduce contract time with console commands or otherwise?

I... may have ended up causing a bit longer duration than I initially intended 😅

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, ChibiUser said:

Is there a way to reduce contract time with console commands or otherwise?

I... may have ended up causing a bit longer duration than I initially intended 😅

Yes, but I'll put it in a double SPOILER, since once you know how to easily get out of any sort of peril or consequence, it diminishes that experience of having to accept the situation and make the best of it.

 

Blatant cheat command:

 

Spoiler

This really is cheating.  Last chance to not see this.

 

Spoiler

In the console: Set vkjContract X, where x is days.  Only use integer values.

 

[CaptainJ03]

23 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Only use integer values.

Not very integer, cheating like this! 😁

[BigOnes69]

12 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Not very integer, cheating like this! 😁

That Integer person is going to get a reputation as a slut.

[Hex Bolt]

15 minutes ago, BigOnes69 said:

That Integer person is going to get a reputation as a slut.

 

SLUT:  Submissive Life Under Training

[zalduras]

I’ll throw an idea out there.

What if the owner wants to buy something at a store and Lola is ordered to come along?

The idea is that the owner gets bigger discounts the more commands Lola carries out.

In the end, depending on Lola’s actions, her Sub-status either rises or falls, and she is punished.

Hopefully this Idea is something new and good, and not something bad.

[Hex Bolt]

13 hours ago, zalduras said:

I’ll throw an idea out there.

What if the owner wants to buy something at a store and Lola is ordered to come along?

The idea is that the owner gets bigger discounts the more commands Lola carries out.

In the end, depending on Lola’s actions, her Sub-status either rises or falls, and she is punished.

Hopefully this Idea is something new and good, and not something bad.

I'd like to do something involving the owner's shopping (rather than yours), but other than the package pickup for Pony Express, I haven't come up with something that's both fun and practical.  The player's gender preference for sex limits things unless the mod uses a list of known merchants.  I might be able to select a merchant generically when you enter a building, but that carries risk (I'm thinking of mods that add vendor fences that will only talk to you at certain times of the day).  So, I haven't come up with a good concept for such an event.

[Jack005]

On 4/11/2026 at 11:30 AM, SkyrimOptimized said:

Aggressive Anubs Ostim :  bug:    You have one or more plugins that are not form 44. They are:

• AnubAnimObj.esp (form 43)

Form 43 (or lower) plugins are modules that were made for Skyrim LE (Oldrim) and have not been properly ported to Skyrim Special Edition, which uses form 44 plugins. This usually results in parts of the mod not working correctly.

To be converted, these plugins simply need to be opened and saved with the SSE Creation Kit but their presence can be an indication that a mod was not properly ported to SSE and so can potentially have additional issues.

Online guides can have more information on how to correctly convert mods for Skyrim SE.

Soo Lola is it working with ostim+sexlab patch?? Im looking to add this mod to the collection im using righ now but im using ostim so im kind of affraid to test it with the ostim+sexlab patch love this mod but im testing and playing with ostim but as I said I would love to use this mod