Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[shiagwen]

Do you have some future plans for Lola ? Do you work on further updates ?  657k downloads is quite a number, so a lot of fans would like to see more i guess.

 

 

my biggest problem with lola is still the bleedout of defeat and no way to die. You made a couple of upgrade that  fulfill most of the other wisehes. However, i wish there would be more forced sex activity in the style of being famous.  why not to creatures ? Like a dog as second playmate.

Edited January 17, 2025 by shiagwen

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

Do you work on further updates ?

I was actually working on packaging an update earlier today, so players can have it to play with for the weekend.  I'd wanted to add more new features, but I stalled on deciding what to do and how to design it, so I had decided to just publish what I have.

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

i wish there would be more forced sex activity in the style of being famous.

It depends on what forced sex means.  Lola is forced to have sex with townspeople during that event (although you can choose other options), but the owner won't allow Lola to be raped.  Besides, the purpose of that event is "to show what a slut you are".

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

why not to creatures ?

Some players love bestiality, but others hate it, and there are many other things I can do that should appeal to more players.  I'm kind of neutral.  For me, it can be good if it fits the situation (the old Bestial Essence mod was interesting) but I'd rather not just have a creature appear.  So, I haven't had a good reason to do it other than the one option on the stable task.

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

Like a dog as second playmate.

I have no plans for a second playmate of any form.  I find extra companions to be annoying, especially dogs.

[Hex Bolt]

Version 2.1.10

 

New:  Compulsive masturbation.  A new MCM setting under Roleplay, Sex & Sexuality, sets the frequency (0 disables it).  While enslaved, Lola will periodically masturbate if arousal is 95+ and score is less than 50.  It's designed for use with "masturbation denial" (in the Rules section), which interrupts masturbating and prevents orgasm, but you don't have to enable that rule.  Until now, masturbation denial was mostly a novelty, since you'd have to manually do it through SexLab or an outside effect like a sex potion would have to trigger it.  If masturbation denial is active, masturbation intervals of less than 2 game hours might eventually result in a scolding and score loss.

 

Changed:  The LolaRoom cell has a new MCM System button, "Go to the safe room".  It teleports you to the empty test room added back in version 2.0.1 that no one probably uses because it required using the console to access it.  Now, you can get there from the MCM; a new wall button returns you to wherever you were before.  Details: It's a neutral cell with no location and no clutter, well-lighted and suitable to view outfits, try poses, and test animations.  It's isolated, so no one will bother you (if you're enslaved, your owner will probably find you).  A hallway opens into space, a flat black background for screenshots.  There's a player-owned non-respawning container for your testing needs.

 

Changed:  Improvements to masturbation denial.  The collar teases more by letting you get just a little further, the owner will comment on your futile efforts, and multiple attempts by naughty slaves are handled.
Changed:  The owner will remove your gag for the prostitution and "Sample the Merchandise" events, if possible.
Changed:  Player stripping now ignores shoes that have the SexLabNoStrip keyword.
Changed:  When pony gear is used, a corset (which uses the same slot as the body harness) will now be detected and temporarily removed.  Any worn bondage boots will now be temporarily removed.
Changed:  For prostitution, if the owner feels poor, the maximum value of the random part of the quota will be used.
Changed:  For compatibility with SexLab Arousal replacers that neglect to set NPC arousal faction, this mod now does that when you solicit a client during basic prostitution.
Fixed:  The Forceful "follower's reaction" option was not setting the contract days to a minimum of 14.

[shiagwen]

3 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I was actually working on packaging an update earlier today, so players can have it to play with for the weekend.  I'd wanted to add more new features, but I stalled on deciding what to do and how to design it, so I had decided to just publish what I have.

 

It depends on what forced sex means.  Lola is forced to have sex with townspeople during that event (although you can choose other options), but the owner won't allow Lola to be raped.  Besides, the purpose of that event is "to show what a slut you are".

 

Some players love bestiality, but others hate it, and there are many other things I can do that should appeal to more players.  I'm kind of neutral.  For me, it can be good if it fits the situation (the old Bestial Essence mod was interesting) but I'd rather not just have a creature appear.  So, I haven't had a good reason to do it other than the one option on the stable task.

 

I have no plans for a second playmate of any form.  I find extra companions to be annoying, especially dogs.

i dont see creatures as realistic what they are, it is a fantasy game and the cock is just fantastic.  in pc game there is no dirt, no ugly smell, etc. Some kind of sexual freedom.

# ofcourse dogs are annoying in combat, i never play with them, but i dont play with lydia or any other follower during advantures either.  However, it is easy to get viglilance, meeko or a hantai husky at masters side. 

[Gameplayer]

How about,

 

Advertising dialogue branch,

 

Conditions, getglobal

Prostition chance greater than 0

 

This way advertising only occurs when its actually greater than a 0 chance.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Gameplayer said:

How about,

 

Advertising dialogue branch,

 

Conditions, getglobal

Prostition chance greater than 0

 

This way advertising only occurs when its actually greater than a 0 chance.

That's how I changed it for today's update (except that the condition is on the story manager quest node).

[awesomeness013]

I'm curious if there is a mod or any way to change follower greetings? I couldn't find anything. for example follower says something like "what can i do for you, friend" when you enter dialogue with them which is a little too friendly for them to be saying to a slave

 

Edited January 18, 2025 by awesomeness013

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, awesomeness013 said:

I'm curious if there is a mod or any way to change follower greetings? I couldn't find anything. for example follower says something like "what can i do for you, friend" when you enter dialogue with them which is a little too friendly for them to be saying to a slave

It is out of place, and it would have to be a mod.  For a custom follower, I usually edit that mod and block the excessively friendly greetings.

[Amrovich]

Hey great work on keeping this maintained! ❤️ 

Is it possible to be Lola but without having to wear a collar at all times? 
If not could you please add this option? I don't mind having to wear a collar for some time or during an event but not all the time. 
Maybe if I am obedient and there is no fear from me then as a reward I don't get to wear a collar. Something like that? 

[Hex Bolt]

28 minutes ago, Amrovich said:

Is it possible to be Lola but without having to wear a collar at all times? 

The collar is really central to not only being a slave but being recognized as one.  The owner often mentions the desire for everyone to "see that you wear my collar".  Everything else (devices or clothing) is optional, but not the slave collar.  The collar is assumed to be enchanted, so it's the source of shocks, masturbation denial, and other effects.  For something that essential, removing the requirement is just not something that I would want to do.

[shiagwen]

Hello again,

so you dont like the dog, i got another proposal for lola.

for Prostitution you have a quoata and she cant leave town until she got it.

that is unrealistic. really she has to make the quoata within a time, at night when she brings the money to her daddy, if it isnt enough she gets punished.

 

another poropsal, but that would involve prison treatment. instead of selling her, master  gives her to the guards for a lesson.  after which she behaves very brave.

ingame she cant refuse or say no for a couple of days. 

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, shiagwen said:

for Prostitution you have a quoata and she cant leave town until she got it.

that is unrealistic. really she has to make the quoata within a time, at night when she brings the money to her daddy, if it isnt enough she gets punished.

The way it is now works well.  A large quota can take a long time, so it's not a race against the clock.  Since there's no rush, you receive other tasks while you're working.  The owner earns gold and gets to have fun with Lola, while Lola has incentive to finish the job if she wants to be able to go anywhere.

 

2 hours ago, shiagwen said:

another poropsal, but that would involve prison treatment. instead of selling her, master  gives her to the guards for a lesson.

I do have an item on my list for some public service tasks, such as servicing guards, but it's not a punishment.

[Psalam]

1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said:

I do have an item on my list for some public service tasks, such as servicing guards, but it's not a punishment.

Out of curiosity, could this be integrated (via MCM) with Prison Overhaul Patched? That would allow some interesting interactions.

 

On another subject entirely, when using the new (and previously with the old) Simple Slavery Plus Plus it appears that If I do not "start" (via MCM) SLtR when Lola is auctioned if SLtR comes up as the choice, my character is simply left free in the Auction House. Is this the manner in which this is meant to be handled?

BTW good work with the new SS++! 😁

[blahity]

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I do have an item on my list for some public service tasks, such as servicing guards, but it's not a punishment

It might be fun to be given a choice of different volunteer tasks to do, all with the purpose of showing off how magnanimous the PC's owner is.

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, Psalam said:

On another subject entirely, when using the new (and previously with the old) Simple Slavery Plus Plus it appears that If I do not "start" (via MCM) SLtR when Lola is auctioned if SLtR comes up as the choice, my character is simply left free in the Auction House. Is this the manner in which this is meant to be handled?

If the auction outcome is Lola, and the Strong Hand quest is not active, the Strong Hand quest will start.  You should see the quest start up notification.  The script then looks for a valid buyer in your MCM settings.  If there's none, you'll be left there and told to seek out your benefactor and ask for the strong hand that you need.  Otherwise, the selected buyer will appear and claim you.

 

If the buyer is not already a follower, the script will try to recruit the buyer as a follower, using the standard function call.  This should work for no follower framework, NFF, or EFF, and I'm guessing it works for AFT too (no complaints over the years).  If recruitment fails, a pop-up message will tell you, "Unable to make a follower of XXX", and you'll be left there.

 

So, it's possible to be left in the slave market, but only if something didn't work (no buyer or can't recruit the buyer), and you'll have a pop-up message depending on the situation.  When selecting a buyer, SLTR write a message to the console regarding the result (e.g., "SLTR could not select a buyer"), so if you think you have valid buyers selected, checking the console output can tell you what happened.

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, Psalam said:

[Regarding public service] Out of curiosity, could this be integrated (via MCM) with Prison Overhaul Patched? That would allow some interesting interactions.

Possibly, but public service isn't high on the list because I haven't figured out how to make it interesting, and it's likely to be another event that leaves out players who play straight male characters, because (without mods) guards are all men except in a couple of cities (and even then, men are the majority).  However...

 

1 hour ago, blahity said:

It might be fun to be given a choice of different volunteer tasks to do, all with the purpose of showing off how magnanimous the PC's owner is.

That might add enough flexibility to work for all players.  Maybe.

 

The area where I most wanted a service event is boosting morale at military camps.  There's a shortage of non-town events, so that would help.  I'd have to check for enough gender-appropriate soldiers and provide a way to indicate which side (if any) the owner supports, but it would make the existence of the camps a little more significant.

[Psalam]

40 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

So, it's possible to be left in the slave market

Here's what I can tell you. First, Benor was my master. I had, in fact, activated him in that role twice before using SS++ at all. The first time I used SS++ and SLtR was selected Benor popped up and served as master, as expected. Every additional time I tried it (when I didn't get the SLUTS or Radiant Prostitution outcome) I simply found my character naked and free in the auction house (fortunately with all my gear). I had just off the other two possible SLtR masters I'd previously had listed (both were legitimate follower candidates) and I still got the same thing.

 

29 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Possibly, but public service isn't high on the list

I was thinking more of public humiliation (after all, that's what POP does best). If nothing else, the using of the furniture that POP places in towns across Skyrim could be interesting all by itself - more so with NPC interactions. Straight males can be exposed and whipped just like others. A sex option might be made available through the MCM for others.

 

32 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

boosting morale at military camps

An excellent idea! While I know that I am in the minority when it comes to playing the Civil War, don't forget trying to boost morale at forts as well. Even players who aren't interested in the Civil War can clean out bandits or rogue wizards and thereby turn the fort over to the Civil War side which controls the Hold involved (like Fort Snowhawk becomes Imperial and Fort Kastav becomes Stormcloak - In Hjaalmarch and Winterhold respectively). Once again, this would allow any number of "interesting" scenarios - beginning with the servicing Military Camp quest from Radiant Prostitution through the already existing Stable Master quest in SLtR since there are almost always horses in the forts. While I don't know for certain how it could be used but almost all the forts have outdoors forges.

[Hex Bolt]

30 minutes ago, Psalam said:

First, Benor was my master. I had, in fact, activated him in that role twice before using SS++ at all. The first time I used SS++ and SLtR was selected Benor popped up and served as master, as expected. Every additional time I tried it (when I didn't get the SLUTS or Radiant Prostitution outcome) I simply found my character naked and free in the auction house (fortunately with all my gear).

In the same game, or different games?  If different games, Benor might not have been unlocked yet as a follower.  Regardless, you should have seen a pop-up message (those can't be missed) if something didn't work, and if recruitment was successful, the buyer would have been enabled (if necessary) and moved to your position, which is also hard to miss.  Since you didn't mention seeing any of that, I'm just surprised. 

 

Can you please try that again sometime (maybe from a suitable older save) with a different buyer, since Benor is special by needing to be unlocked?  If it doesn't work, please open the console and look for SLTR messages.  If there's a problem, I'd like to fix it, but I don't see what could be going wrong other than maybe a Benor thing (and if it's just Benor or followers unlocked by brawling, I'd like to fix that too).

[Hex Bolt]

39 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I was thinking more of public humiliation (after all, that's what POP does best). If nothing else, the using of the furniture that POP places in towns across Skyrim could be interesting all by itself - more so with NPC interactions. Straight males can be exposed and whipped just like others. A sex option might be made available through the MCM for others.

Ah, I see now.

 

40 minutes ago, Psalam said:

While I know that I am in the minority when it comes to playing the Civil War, don't forget trying to boost morale at forts as well.

That might be tricky if any mods mess with the civil war quest, but I'll keep forts in mind.  From my viewpoint, it's an advantage that most players don't finish (or maybe even start) the civil war quest line because the camps should be there and populated (I know that the end of war brings some changes).  Since I wasn't clear about it, I was thinking about triggering camp action by proximity, rather than Radiant Prostitution's way of sending one way out to a distant camp.

[CaptainJ03]

10 hours ago, Psalam said:

could this be integrated (via MCM) with Prison Overhaul Patched? That would allow some interesting interactions.

interesting? That's called crashing... I never got POP to work flawlessly on LE, with some scenarios reliably getting stuck and I had to revert to older saves.

[Psalam]

14 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

In the same game, or different games? 

Same game (I'm level 60 something).

14 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Since I wasn't clear about it, I was thinking about triggering camp action by proximity

A couple of years back I helped someone (Corsayr, (I checked), and was helped in turn by Blackbird Wanderer) into making something like this. Here it is if you're at all interested.

 

myHornyCamps.7z

[Psalam]

5 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

interesting? That's called crashing... I never got POP to work flawlessly on LE, with some scenarios reliably getting stuck and I had to revert to older saves.

I'll not say that POP doesn't have issues but since I use it primarily with a light touch I've had nothing that caused a crash or required falling back to an old save. That said, yes, I still save my game just before using POP (something I do with other mods and each of the Dawnguard DLC quests - "save early, save often"). The well placed furniture, pillories, wheels and crosses, at a minimum, could be interesting if used by SLtR.

[lovalter]

On 1/20/2025 at 11:49 PM, Hex Bolt said:

The area where I most wanted a service event is boosting morale at military camps.  There's a shortage of non-town events, so that would help.  I'd have to check for enough gender-appropriate soldiers and provide a way to indicate which side (if any) the owner supports, but it would make the existence of the camps a little more significant.

That sounds really good, owner lends you to a camp for a day and you just become a free-use stress reliever 😵‍💫

[Seeker999]

Lola could also cook or make healing potions at the camp.

[Splintered_Lizard]

I installed this via Vortex only to immediately get the warning this is "designed for a different game." I was expecting an installer to pop up asking me if I was using LE or SE (I'm using SE.) Please advise on what I'm supposed to do, because the download files don't differentiate between SE and LE. I downloaded the latest version (2.1.10). Thank you!

 

Edit: I kept it enabled anyway and gave it a test. Seems to be working fine. I love all the options. Great work!

By the way, does anyone know some mods where I could make the follower spoken dialogue not so friendly?

Edited January 23, 2025 by Splintered_Lizard