Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[gollum007]

17 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

 

SLTR does check for DHLP Suspend, but I don't see any indication that Contraptions uses it, perhaps because sex is possible with at least some of the contraptions.  Unfortunately, being in a contraption doesn't seem to be covered by the usual "player busy" checks like testing for zadAnimatingFaction, but Contraptions does supply its own check.  I'll just have to add that additional check when SLTR tests for PC availability.  I will do that for the next update.

 

No problem, thanks.

 

It's minor, and can be worked around / ignored anyways.

 

FWIW, it's an unfortunate feature of DCL that it stomps all over just about anything else, but it's the only mod of it's type that involves followers in the 'fun' too.....

[CaptainJ03]

12 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

So, would it be worthwhile to have something like obsessive thoughts while Strong Hand is active, or would it be a waste of effort because you rarely bother to start the quest until you're ready to get yourself enslaved? 

Until now, I only start the quest when I'm ready to begin an enslavement, because it has no benefits and can be annoying to start it too early. But if you have thoughts that circle atound a possible submission to your beautiful follower, that would be nice.

It would need to be separate from the Thoughts, because I found that most annoying.

 

On another note:

As I'm playing with Devious Lore, which gives you benefits for wearing devices, it would be nice to have a one-key toggle (say F8 or so) to suspend the mod. The Lore Mongers don't undo your bindings, so wearing a collar always conflicts with their training. In most cases it's enough to unlock the collar and fast-click through their dialogue, but sometimes the re-equipping of Lola's collar triggers just in the wrong moment...

Don't bother if it's too much of a hassle and I'm the only one who would use it.

 

2 hours ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

I have a question regarding the plug. It seems almost impossible to remove, and my character has had in for a while. It gets tiring, I think, because I only have so many animations that are allowed to be played when she is wearing it (in an SL scene). Every time I ask my master to remove it, he just inflates it.

Don't ask, then.

 

Check your DD's MCM, there's a setting for pump bumps. Set it to zero.

Or install a mod like DD Escape Overhaul or Devious Lore, that allows either struggling out of Devices (with a better mechanic than DD itself) or the ability to ask your follower to remove it. (although I don't remember if it works for inflatable plugs. I like them, so I don't care much)

[lovalter]

On 1/28/2025 at 6:38 PM, Hilanthis said:

I would be absolutely delighted to see an optional integration with Pama's furniture as potential outcomes for extremely low score to be used as an absolute failure for an owner akin to being sold off with the simple slavery integration.

Kalmah's addon has something like that

[Hex Bolt]

8 hours ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

I have a question regarding the plug. It seems almost impossible to remove, and my character has had in for a while.

You have to wait for it to deflate on its own.  As Captain J03 said, you can decrease the accidental bump chance in DD's MCM.  From this mod's perspective, this is a "fire & forget" event.  SLTR just equips the plug, and DD handles its deflation and efforts toward removing it.  The common approach is to stay in an isolated area like a player home while it deflates, since some activities might trigger a DD bump event and inflate it.  So that you never get stuck, prostitution gives you a way out.

 

8 hours ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

He even says Lola can admit "defeat" and whore herself out to get it removed, but there is no follow up dialogue where I can chose that, so how does that work?

Just as it says, start prostitution (either voluntarily or whenever the owner orders it), after which you'll have the dialog option "Will you remove the inflatable toy, please?" under "Master/Mistress?".  The only restrictions are that you must not be wearing a chastity belt and must not yet have completed your quota.  This is the guaranteed way to remove the plug if you're tired of it.

 

8 hours ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

I'm also just really not into the whole plug thing... >_< I wish I could disable that.

Set the event's cooldown to zero on the MCM page.  This event is one of just a few that only become available at high score.  These events are meant to be more difficult, to reflect your progress.  The owner is willing to do more things to you now that you're ready.

[Hex Bolt]

6 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Or install a mod like DD Escape Overhaul or Devious Lore, that allows either struggling out of Devices (with a better mechanic than DD itself) or the ability to ask your follower to remove it. (although I don't remember if it works for inflatable plugs.

Yes, I like DD Escape Overhaul.  Although it's marked as SE-incompatible, I think that's only because the author didn't test it on SE.  There's nothing in the mod that wouldn't work as-is on SE or AE.

 

6 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Don't ask, then.

Aw, but that's part of the fun (the owner's anyway).

[CaptainJ03]

15 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Aw, but that's part of the fun (the owner's anyway).

Yes, I always ask Mistress to remove an inflatable plug, even if I inserted it myself

[Hex Bolt]

7 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

As I'm playing with Devious Lore, which gives you benefits for wearing devices, it would be nice to have a one-key toggle (say F8 or so) to suspend the mod. The Lore Mongers don't undo your bindings, so wearing a collar always conflicts with their training. In most cases it's enough to unlock the collar and fast-click through their dialogue, but sometimes the re-equipping of Lola's collar triggers just in the wrong moment...

Don't bother if it's too much of a hassle and I'm the only one who would use it.

I don't think I'd want to do that, but there might be other adjustments that could help.  The collar check is already skipped during conversations and scenes, but maybe it's updating between your quick attempts to start the next conversation.  Is there anything unique about the situation that SLTR might detect?  Is there one quest that SLTR might check to test whether it's running?

 

7 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Until now, I only start the quest when I'm ready to begin an enslavement, because it has no benefits and can be annoying to start it too early. But if you have thoughts that circle atound a possible submission to your beautiful follower, that would be nice.

It would need to be separate from the Thoughts, because I found that most annoying.

Fantasizing thoughts while Strong Hand is active would work very similarly to Thoughts, but it would be separate.  I'm still evaluating feedback from players about interest in this kind of feature before I do it, so more feedback on this is welcome.

 

If I do it, there would probably be 3 thought categories:  never been enslaved, had been enslaved, and after waking up (about your dreams).  A category could be left blank, and of course the feature could be turned off.

[Hex Bolt]

13 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Yes, I always ask Mistress to remove an inflatable plug, even if I inserted it myself

That's sick, I love it!  You know, playmates could have a topic for inflatable toys too, with responses ranging from envious to giving another pump depending on the dominance level.  Actually, a very submissive playmate would probably express envy and give you a good pump so you can enjoy it more.

Edited January 30, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[Dur_Mel]

What are everyone's recommended owners? I usually just use Lydia but I am wondering what other people do. Anyone have more unique dialogues (such as how Lydia talks about how it's weird that she still says she's "sworn to carry your burdens")?

[Hex Bolt]

17 minutes ago, Dur_Mel said:

What are everyone's recommended owners? I usually just use Lydia but I am wondering what other people do. Anyone have more unique dialogues (such as how Lydia talks about how it's weird that she still says she's "sworn to carry your burdens")?

All of the housecarls have a few shared lines about who's really in charge.  I don't believe that any other followers have anything special.  Though it can be fun to image a particular housecarl's personal motives, I prefer the various generic "yet another pretty face" downloadable followers because they're blank slates.  It's easy to make up any background and personality for them.

[Dur_Mel]

52 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

"yet another pretty face" downloadable followers because they're blank slates

Any particular mods you use for said followers?

[Hex Bolt]

48 minutes ago, Dur_Mel said:

Any particular mods you use for said followers?

No, but there is a zillion of them on Nexus.  Just choose a face and skill set that you like (I avoid the ones with overpowered abilities).  It's helpful to then think about the character's background, current situation, and goals.  As a slave, you should have to work toward those goals.  This can make you vary your routine, so you don't play the game the same way that you always do.

 

This owner might want a house in a city where you've never bought one before.  Now you have a reason to.  If you haven't done the civil war quests for years, maybe this master is very interested in supporting a side.  Or, maybe this one is only interested in self-benefit rather than other people's problems and isn't particularly religious, so you're not allowed to "waste time" on things like Mara's quest (you're not told about any reward in advance, so it looks like romantic nonsense to your owner).  Experience not having the usual perks and rewards, because Master or Mistress sets the agenda.  Maybe you like for your character to be a little weaker and more dependent on a follower.  It can also cause you to look at lesser quests that you might usually skip.

 

So, when choosing a follower, you might look for one who seems like the kind of person who does things differently than you usually would.

[ggirtam]

Under the rules tab, in the event rules section, the "add hair style" feature is greyed out. I can't click on it to mess with it. Have other people had this problem? What might be causing it?

[Splintered_Lizard]

I'm super curious how to get a housecarl as an owner--without becoming a Thane in that hold, first! 😮 I really want the Windhelm guy, Calder, but I don't want to become Thane of that city (or any city, lol). How can I set him up as a potential owner without recruitment?

Edited January 31, 2025 by Splintered_Lizard

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, ggirtam said:

Under the rules tab, in the event rules section, the "add hair style" feature is greyed out. I can't click on it to mess with it. Have other people had this problem? What might be causing it?

That would be because your current hairstyle is already in the list.

To add a new hairstlye, open racemenu, chose some hairdo you would like to see on Lola, close. Open the MCM, click on "add hair style".

Redo for more possible choices of hair, or exit and resume from your last save before calling racemenu.

 

There might be an option to manually edit some json file, but I never cared. And you'd need to open racemenu anyway, for a letter by letter accurate name of the wig.

[CaptainJ03]

15 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

The collar check is already skipped during conversations and scenes

Thank you - as far as I remember it never triggered during conversation, but in the time I needed between unlocking the collar and talking to the Lore Monger.

[kingsglaive]

15 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

That's sick, I love it!  You know, playmates could have a topic for inflatable toys too, with responses ranging from envious to giving another pump depending on the dominance level.  Actually, a very submissive playmate would probably express envy and give you a good pump so you can enjoy it more.

Speaking of plugs, I think we can add a plug to Lola for 1-6 hours after the Master ejaculates, so that the Master's semen can stay in Lola's body for a while. A well-behaved sex slave should be filled with the Master's semen at all times.

[wren888]

20 hours ago, Dur_Mel said:

What are everyone's recommended owners?

Personally, I choose about half a dozen possibilities for SLTR to randomly choose between. Skyrim default mercenaries in various cities' taverns and ones HexBolt's Simple Slavery mod puts in the Riften auction house. I avoid housecarls. I've only played through the mod once, but after a while, I changed my follower/master into a vampire with TESEdit to explore the differences. From a role-playing point of view, that could happen to someone.

[Hex Bolt]

8 hours ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

I'm super curious how to get a housecarl as an owner--without becoming a Thane in that hold, first! 😮 I really want the Windhelm guy, Calder, but I don't want to become Thane of that city (or any city, lol). How can I set him up as a potential owner without recruitment?

He starts disabled, locked by the thane quest so he can't just be enabled with the "enable" console command.  However, if you never intend to do that quest, you could use a clone.  "Player.PlaceAtMe A2C90" in the console will give you a copy of Calder, whom you can then ask to follow you.  He will have the housecarl dialog topic, which you might or might not want, and you can only reliably submit to him then rather than making him an auction buyer.  (The clone ID has the FF prefix.  He might work as a buyer, but only in that playthrough.)

[serph90]

22 hours ago, Dur_Mel said:

What are everyone's recommended owners? I usually just use Lydia but I am wondering what other people do. Anyone have more unique dialogues (such as how Lydia talks about how it's weird that she still says she's "sworn to carry your burdens")?

jenassa cause she's the best waifu, and her particular voice its just.....perfect

[ggirtam]

20 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

That would be because your current hairstyle is already in the list.

To add a new hairstlye, open racemenu, chose some hairdo you would like to see on Lola, close. Open the MCM, click on "add hair style".

Redo for more possible choices of hair, or exit and resume from your last save before calling racemenu.

 

There might be an option to manually edit some json file, but I never cared. And you'd need to open racemenu anyway, for a letter by letter accurate name of the wig.

And how do I open race menu?

[Hex Bolt]

31 minutes ago, ggirtam said:

And how do I open race menu?

Open the console and enter ShowRaceMenu.

[ggirtam]

7 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Open the console and enter ShowRaceMenu.

tyvm

[Hilanthis]

On 1/30/2025 at 10:07 AM, lovalter said:

Kalmah's addon has something like that

Unfortunately Kalmah vanished shortly after putting out his addon and it is grossly out of date to the point it is more likely to break things than add anything.

[lovalter]

1 hour ago, Hilanthis said:

Unfortunately Kalmah vanished shortly after putting out his addon and it is grossly out of date to the point it is more likely to break things than add anything.

Works perfectly for me so not sure what you mean