Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

19 minutes ago, noel201 said:

During sex scenes, the characters are transparent, so the bodies are invisible.

I don't think that this mod is causing that.  If the bodies are invisible (not merely transparent), something might be replacing the body models.  If you have enabled "use nude suit" in SexLab, turn that off.

[Slap4]

I completed serana's quests and have her as follower but can't activate a dialogue, anything i can do?

[JustMe469]

15 minutes ago, Slap4 said:

I completed serana's quests and have her as follower but can't activate a dialogue, anything i can do?

Well it does state on the mod page that Serana probably will not work. She's not a regular character. 

 

[Hex Bolt]

30 minutes ago, Slap4 said:

I completed serana's quests and have her as follower but can't activate a dialogue, anything i can do?

I assume that you have started this mod's Strong Hand quest and that you're not seeing its topic about needing a strong hand.

 

Followers with specialized frameworks, like Serana, might not work with this mod, though it has been reported that Serana will work after you complete all of her quests, and even then, you might have to manually add her to the follower faction.  If you use a follower framework like NFF or EFF, you should use that mod's follower import function.  If you don't use a follower framework, you can manually add Serana by targeting her and entering "AddFac 5c84e 0" in the console, but understand that this potentially could cause her to have strange behavior because the Skyrim developers designed her to be different.

[donttouchmethere]

I tried Serana with NFF + SLtR after finishing Serana's main quest and it worked for a while, but if anything happens like a cell change and mods struggle for their time with Serana she might get stuck and act oddly (which will end in a MCM debug session or fallback to an older save).

 

To have a fluid SLtR experience I would recommend to just grab a custom follower that looks like her (maybe it's her dom sister? best if also vampire flagged), while you drop all possible Serana addons from Nexus onto the original Serana.

Edited August 18, 2024 by donttouchmethere

[Hex Bolt]

9 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

To have a fluid SLtR experience I would recommend to just grab a custom follower that looks like her (maybe it's her dom sister?), while you drop all possible Serana addons from Nexus onto the original Serana.

When I suggested that in the past, players pointed out that (if it matters to the player) a generic Serana wouldn't have Serana's unique voice for standard follower topics (inventory, wait here) unless the player has the knowledge to edit the follower mod and change the voice type.

 

Using one of the pretty vampire follower mods is certainly the cleanest way to have "Serana" as an owner, and it's easy to rename her with Jaxonz Renamer or a simple mod edit.  As you said, if the transition is too immersion-breaking, maybe Serana wasn't interested in Lola's request, but she has a dominant friend who'd be perfect for it.

[donttouchmethere]

1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said:

When I suggested that in the past, players pointed out that (if it matters to the player) a generic Serana wouldn't have Serana's unique voice for standard follower topics (inventory, wait here) unless the player has the knowledge to edit the follower mod and change the voice type.

kehehehe

I understand that. That's why I tried it although I should have know better. The urges can often overcome that annoying rational brain part thingy while ignoring that tech part thingy.

 

Worked for quite a while, I'm sure someone with a reasonable mod list might have better luck (says the brain part that still wants the original as mistress, but will also prevent me from having a "reasonable" mod list).

Edited August 18, 2024 by donttouchmethere

[Hex Bolt]

5 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

The urges can often overcome that annoying rational brain part thingy....

I think 9 out of 10 Lolas ask to be enslaved for this reason.  Owners then have to keep working to suppress Lola's rational brain part thingy -- for her own good, of course.

[donttouchmethere]

19 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

I think 9 out of 10 Lolas ask to be enslaved for this reason.

Didn't you set it up that way?

I must admit I always try to resist that dialogue option early ingame ... but it gets me every time if I manage to stay out of trouble for too long (which is rather hard on my setups).

 

SS++ is the only slightly forced SLtR enslavement right? I don't even know what happens if you refuse to wear that collar after being sold. Was there even a dialogue option to do that?

 

19 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

of course

Of COURSE!

Edited August 18, 2024 by donttouchmethere

[Hex Bolt]

1 minute ago, donttouchmethere said:

SS++ is the only slightly forced SLtR enslavement right?

No, you can be bought and become a Lola if you're a Public Whore, and Devious Followers Continued has an option to use SLTR rather than its own enslavement.  In the latter case, there's a score goal to meet which ends the enslavement, though you still have a devious follower.

 

7 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I don't even know what happens if you refuse to wear that collar after being sold. Was there even a dialogue option to do that?

The owner collars you, since it's not consensual ("I'll put this collar on you, so you'll know your place, slave.").

[donttouchmethere]

26 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

No, you can be bought and become a Lola if you're a Public Whore, and Devious Followers Continued has an option to use SLTR rather than its own enslavement.  In the latter case, there's a score goal to meet which ends the enslavement, though you still have a devious follower.

 

The owner collars you, since it's not consensual ("I'll put this collar on you, so you'll know your place, slave.").

Thanks for the DEC hint!

Okay need to resist the self-enslavement and try the other options ☺️

[Hex Bolt]

2 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Okay need to resist the self-enslavement and try the other options

I'm also looking at another starting option, if you're wearing any restraints and ask about "something unusual".  You just wanted your follower to help free you -- or was that really what you wanted?  Your follower knows (optional, consensual).

[donttouchmethere]

1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said:

I'm also looking at another starting option, if you're wearing any restraints and ask about "something unusual".  You just wanted your follower to help free you -- or was that really what you wanted?  Your follower knows (optional, consensual).

I end up a lot in DDs to no surprise, because the whole setup is tuned for that.

There is an endless struggle to make escape harder to prevent easy instant escapes while just hard enough to escape a few but also to keep wearing some DDs because escaping everything would take too long (especially in a horny draugr infested dungeon or similar).

Now that doesn't always work so sometimes escape seems impossible and all followers are already tiered of helping.

Those situations would be ideal for an SLtR deal. Like after asking too many times for help the follower could sneak in the offer for a deal with the excuse to care for the hopelessly bound PC (in addition that the follower knows that's what the PC needed anyways).

 

Seems I'm already down to be okay with enslavement as long as I can finish the active quest dungeon lol

 

I get the feeling the only difficulty setting I need for Skyrim is the DD difficulty setting.

 

Maybe as an option: Delayed SLtR enslavement after follower help. This would be a nice twist.

 

The delay could be even long enough that there is hope the follower forgot about it.

Until the quest day ends in a tavern or player home and the follower approaches with a collar.

 

Any delayed enslavement could also come from DD unrelated reasons. I just like twists or surprises or uncertainties.

Edited August 18, 2024 by donttouchmethere

[Hex Bolt]

27 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

There is an endless struggle to make escape harder to prevent easy instant escapes while just hard enough to escape a few but also to keep wearing some DDs because escaping everything would take too long (especially in a horny draugr infested dungeon or similar).  Now that doesn't always work so sometimes escape seems impossible and all followers are already tiered of helping.

This mod's device removal system might help.  Owners never get tired of helping, but they do need keys.  You can configure the help to use extra keys, if you think you're acquiring too many.

 

42 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Those situations would be ideal for an SLtR deal. Like after asking too many times for help the follower could sneak in the offer for a deal with the excuse to care for the hopelessly bound PC (in addition that the follower knows that's what the PC needed anyways).

The contemplated new starting option might free the PC in exchange for a contract.

 

43 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Delayed SLtR enslavement after follower help.

That's not really practical given the mod's design.  Almost all of its functionality is only available after enslavement starts.  That lets you have Strong Hand running for a very long time with no effect on performance.

[donttouchmethere]

Looks like I have some catching up to do after my Skyrim break. 👀

 

 

[Hex Bolt]

11 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Looks like I have some catching up to do after my Skyrim break.

Have fun!  A complete list of changes is on page 1 of this topic.

[donttouchmethere]

5 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Have fun!

First the modding than the fun. 😬

I'm busy since 3 days just collecting new mods and updating old ones (Nexus/LL).

I call that just the preparations for the preparations to even install something 🥵

 

All those new voice options alone will be my doom. 😱

 

10 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

A complete list of changes is on page 1 of this topic.

OMGZ 😅

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I'm also looking at another starting option, if you're wearing any restraints and ask about "something unusual".  You just wanted your follower to help free you -- or was that really what you wanted?  Your follower knows (optional, consensual).

Done now for the next update.  In typical Submissive Lola fashion, the help that you receive might be less than you had expected (should've read the fine print, slave), and you have to agree to at least a 3-day contract.  The follower will receive a few keys.  As a slave, ask your owner for help unlocking the devices.

 

While I was working on this, I changed the PC's acceptance line to use the follower's name.  "I want to serve you, Lydia" has more punch.  (Skyrim needs sexy achievements, like Submitted to Your Own Housecarl.)

[ChibiUser]

Hey hey,

 

Love the updates!

However, I don't see an option for the new 'Unatainable desires' (or I am looking over it), or is this automatic with certain settings?

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, ChibiUser said:

I don't see an option for the new 'Unatainable desires' (or I am looking over it), or is this automatic with certain settings?

There's no setting.  That's just a new "pet trick" that the owner will randomly choose, like stripping, dancing, or forced orgasms.

[Hex Bolt]

17 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Skyrim needs sexy achievements, like Submitted to Your Own Housecarl.

It's rather pointless, but the next update will have achievements, visible in the mod's MCM.  Game achievements are usually pretty arbitrary, and these are no exception, but here is the list:

 

Spoiler

Submissive Lola - Voluntarily became your own follower's slave.
The Resubmission - Submitted again to a former owner.

Submitted to Your Own Housecarl - What will the neighbors think?

Kept Pet - Your owner will never release you.  Never.
Domesticated - Cooked & cleaned 6 times each.
Working Slave - Whored out 10 times.
Run, Lola, Run - Fetched your owner a drink 12 times.
Dancing Fool - Danced for your owner 25 times.
Mmmph! - Got yourself gagged by your owner 3 times.  Naughty slave!
Naked Submission - Paraded naked through town 6 times.
Spank Me - Asked to be spanked 3 times.
Whip Me - Asked to be whipped 3 times.
Pony Girl - Worked as a pony girl 5 times.  (Wearing pony gear for other events is not counted.)
Perfect Score - Achieved the maximum score.
Bad Pet - Reached a score of -15 or less.
Submitted to Your Playmate - Submissively agreed to your playmate's demand for sex.
Punished by Your Playmate - Spanked or whipped by your playmate.  You know you liked it.

 

[donttouchmethere]

41 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

It's rather pointless

I agree.

As reward you could add discount codes for Laura's online bondage and toy shop.

Or get a DD key of your choice.

Discount on a SLS license.

A DD device for free, automatically equips on delivery.

One free device removal at a smith of your choice.

Exchange a device color. Very useful for a consistent set for the stylish slave.

100 lock picks, because 99 just don't cut it.

A day of all toys go haywire.

100 stamina potions, you know why ^^

A point for perks!

Consumable that boosts an ability permanently

Add randomly bounty for a visit at horny jail

Spontaneous teleportation to a place you never wanted to be

Edited August 19, 2024 by donttouchmethere

[Stalvind]

I figured it out Hex Bolt, it was Submissive Lola, but it was because my devious devices was inputed incorrectly with the right faster HDT. Ty for the assist, or at least pointing me in the right direction!

Edited August 19, 2024 by Stalvind

[lovalter]

4 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

There's no setting.  That's just a new "pet trick" that the owner will randomly choose, like stripping, dancing, or forced orgasms.

About that, I just had that event for the first time, got arm restraints equipped but it got immediately removed, any idea why?

[Hex Bolt]

42 minutes ago, lovalter said:

About that, I just had that event for the first time, got arm restraints equipped but it got immediately removed, any idea why?

If the vibration continued after the restraints were removed, that's a mystery.  The event won't remove them until vibration ends.

 

If the vibration ended very quickly, your forced vibration setting in the MCM might be very low, or something caused DD's vibration function to terminate.  DD does require that character have a plug or piercing equipped, but the event shouldn't start unless that's true.  Conceivably, it could be something esoteric like an effect on your character that cancel spells, but the timed vibration spell that this mod uses is flagged to ignore resistance, absorption, and reflection, so that's very unlikely.